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I agree with some of ur points...some of them ...no...

Look ur comment is just based on hatred and division..ur trying to make the Fg completely...
U and I know that is only a fallacy...

There is no where in the world where it Fg is only left to foreign affairs and there is no where in the world where the military is controlled by states..I am sure u made such statement based on ignorance and prejudice...

Also get this ..every federal government will always get more power than the states no matter what.even in the US (the pioneers of Democracy) it the same thing..no US Governor has power than Biden....the issue in Nigeria is dat Buhari has a bit of more power which he is reducing.. One of the first and major step he took was granting autonomy to the judiciary...

Lastly.. Naval bases established on land is called stone frigate...Google is ur friend.. And it exist in almost all the navies in the world...
There is a naval base in IMO state, makurdi benue states..there is a forward operating naval base in offai,kwara state..also an inland operating base in kogi state...all this are on dry lands too...so it not strange if one should be moved to kano....
Am also not justifying it but the point is it not strange ...The navy also has an additional responsibility of dealing with internal crises not necessarily peculiar to water or sea..there are naval personnels fighting book haram if u don't know...
Notwithstanding the major bases that deploy ships to combat crises on Nigerian waters are all over the Niger delta states and Lagos....
Also note that has the navy wants to create a base in kano...they want to equally do the same in Lekki...

Even the air force that is solely responsible for air power and interdiction have created bases that don't have runways neither do dey have helicopter pads to deploy aircraft..but they exist which the major until occupying the place called the regiment specialty...

Please acquire information and fact..don't give everything to ur imagination..

PeaceJoyLove:
The highlighted part is the beauty of it all. If any state cannot manage itself, that is the business of the state. If they deny LGA, that's the business of the state. They will see results very soon. When others are developing and they are getting poorer, their brains will be fine tuned. Is it not poverty that is fine tuning our brain right now? If any state cannot pay its police, that is its business. Competition will start. Good people will start getting on board. At the initial stage, states will fumble. When they see Lagos and Rivers getting it right, they will fast follow just like how universities followed University Of Lagos before govt started destroying the progress again. Buhari is always a turning point. He was the turning point the military used as excuse to destroy everything. I pray his failure this time will be the turning point for our success. Buhari is destined to fail. That is something that we know. And it seemed his failure was to propel us to success then in 1983, but unfortunately, another ma.d man called IBB took over. History had to repeat itself and that was why Buhari came back to power to fail again. We thank God we have just 2 years left for this dullard to get away and die in Daura in peace. What I pray is that his failure should propel us to success this time.

Listen, the worst thing is govt taking the money and them re allocating again. This is the faulty foundation. It is not about having an Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa president. It is about making each state responsible for its destiny. How can Lagos be generating huge fund and they allocate it to Zamfara which generates non or little? And then Zamfara keeps pumping up the population, and they keep having the political votes cos they have huge population. This is what is happening. This is the fight Igbos should go for. This is the fight Yoruba should go for too. And this is the fight Ijaws and everyone in the delta and oil producing nations should go for.

How do you know that if states are empowered, they wont do it well. Let them fail na. Let them fail first. When no one is bailing them out, their heads will be formatted. Let each state be independent and FG should stop doing the rubbish it's doing. FG must be boxed to just foreign affairs. Period.

When this happens, we will have hardworking state legislators and the numbers of law makers in Abuja will be reduced seriously. It wont even be attractive for people to tun after as everyone will start running to get position in his or her state cos that's where action is. Abuja will be irrelevant as it will be interactive again. So, if you destroy your state, that's your wahala. If your people allow you to steal, that's their wahala. Each man for himself and for his state. Period. The days of taking money from Lagos and Rivers to develop Sokoto and Kano will be over. Let Fulani commercialize their cattle rearing also. Let Kaduna buy crude from Delta for its refinery and the nonsense going on should stop. Let the Igbos have rest of mind and assurance that if they return to their states, they will be rewarded too. Let there be fair play.

States will start going out to form sisters cities with other cities in the world. Let everyone carry its burden. Then, we will see real progress in Nigeria.

And I know we cannot just do it at once. Amotekun gave birth to this. Nice. Wike made progress with VAT. Lagos joined. And yesterday all SS governors have joined too. Great. Now, I am shocked the almost dead state - Ogun has risen from the dead. Ogun is "gingering" Lagos to go for more than FG. If they get if, they will push more and more till they all make Abuja irrelevant. Kudos to Abiodun on this. If seems we are all waking up and we are using the right means which is the law to get it right. This is the way forward. We cannot let Kanu and Ipob set us into war. But I cannot deny the fact that the agitation of Kanu too has it's own good result. This Inthank God for. Yes, we pray everything works together for the goodness of Nigeria..

What I want to see in the next 10 years is that each state carries its destiny. It is good that it is a gradual process cos achieving it suddenly will crush Nigeria as many states arent ready. They still want to be sucking FG's boobs. Lol. So, I agree with you that they arent ready. But let's keep moving forward like this. We will get there.

I think Nigeria will redefine the global politics and government, and create a new system of government which will be unique and then adopted by other African nations. This is why we are giants of Africa. We dont back down. We rise again from defeats. This is it. I am seeing if happening already. We create what is unique for us. We are beaten many times but never shattered to pieces. We get up and fight like Africans. We fought slavery and won. We will fight this too. This, I am sure of. We just need to tackle these old thieves. Osinbajo is presently falling my hands and I am thinking of withdrawing my support.

Mark my words, Buhari may be the last powerful president we have in Nigeria as the next president will be forced to give more and more power to states. This I see coming, and it is good for Nigeria.

Let each region manage it's own military and have supreme court. SW is already demanding for a supreme court of it's own. This is good. How do you explain Buhari creating a Naval base in a desert cos he want it in the north. Ma.d man. It cannot work. Let the north create their naval base in the north na. I am sure that Naval base will be for the north only. And they will soon realise that it is a wasted effort by the time they are responsible for it. But since it's the oil money from the south they want to use, they dont care. Let us force each state and region to be responsible for its destiny.

Let's go there.

Cognitivereason:
I agree with some of ur points...some of them ...no...

Look ur comment is just based on hatred and division..ur trying to make the Fg completely...
U and I know that is only a fallacy...

There is no where in the world where it Fg is only left to foreign affairs and there is no where in the world where the military is controlled by states..I am sure u made such statement based on ignorance and prejudice...

Also get this ..every federal government will always get more power than the states no matter what.even in the US (the pioneers of Democracy) it the same thing..no US Governor has power than Biden....the issue in Nigeria is dat Buhari has a bit of more power which he is reducing.. One of the first and major step he took was granting autonomy to the judiciary...

Lastly.. Naval bases established on land is called stone frigate...Google is ur friend.. And it exist in almost all the navies in the world...
There is a naval base in IMO state, makurdi benue states..there is a forward operating naval base in offai,kwara state..also an inland operating base in kogi state...all this are on dry lands too...so it not strange if one should be moved to kano....
Am also not justifying it but the point is it not strange ...The navy also has an additional responsibility of dealing with internal crises not necessarily peculiar to water or sea..there are naval personnels fighting book haram if u don't know...
Notwithstanding the major bases that deploy ships to combat crises on Nigerian waters are all over the Niger delta states and Lagos....
Also note that has the navy wants to create a base in kano...they want to equally do the same in Lekki...

Even the air force that is solely responsible for air power and interdiction have created bases that don't have runways neither do dey have helicopter pads to deploy aircraft..but they exist which the major until occupying the place called the regiment specialty...

Please acquire information and fact..don't give everything to ur imagination..

No need to respond to you further. It is a pity one has to live with your kind in the same place. That's the irony of it. Your kind live on the sweat of others.

Go bless you. A beg, no mention me again.

We mooovveee!

Lol..
I know ur kind

All the points I stated are the realities..u can visit all the places I mentioned.. U will find all I stated there.. And I made those points with references...u can use Google to reduce the stress and confirm it....if u can't bring up anything reasonable.. Please keep scrolling....
Imagine someone saying states should control military..laughable

PeaceJoyLove:
No need to respond to you further. It is a pity one has to live with your kind in the same place. That's the irony of it. Your kind live on the sweat of others.

Go bless you. A beg, no mention me again.

We mooovveee!

Permit my typographical errors
Age is not a measure of intelligence...

One thing I like to do is ..I make references to what ever point I make based on facts not fiction...and the facts are proven..
Wike dat we all know wails about everything has never come out to say he can't control the security in his state.. Seyi makinde handled the herdmen crises in his state without Fg helping on in the way .he didnt say he wants the police to only under him...yesterday.there was an award given to him for how he handled security in his state.that article is on nairaland..akeredolu and sanwo olu are also on d same shoes too..same with IMO and Borneo state...

The issue of state police is being chanted as if that is what the police need to fight crime...
The main issues disrupting the productivity of that force is funding, equipments and many of the kind of people recruited.. If this is not tackled...9ja police remains 9ja police even in the hands of local government chairman.

I hope u know u don't fight security solely with guns and bullet alone...there are other diplomatic approaches involved.. I know a few crises in Lagos state that guns and ammunition didn't solve totally

It mostly weak governors like Ortom that bring silly excuse and spread propaganda rather than facing the issue head one...

Look let me tel u something if buhari dissolves the police for states...it doesn't guarantee any improvement.. It as if u were working for gtbank in Lagos and they transferred you to work in osun ..how does it guarantee ur increased competence, performance and funding...

The only state that will utilize that opportunity is Lagos and rivers..the rest is just an extra burden on dem...

What d police need is better funding ...and most importantly they should stop recruiting illiterate and waec holders to the force..

KaluwisxPRO:
How old are you? Your self contradiction is legendary, please stop disturbing your head with grammar you do not understand. Shalom

Cognitivereason:
Lol..
I know ur kind

All the points I stated are the realities..u can visit all the places I mentioned.. U will find all I stated there.. And I made those points with references...u can use Google to reduce the stress and confirm it....if u can't bring up anything reasonable.. Please keep scrolling....
Imagine someone saying states should control military..laughable

Your kind stays in a place where you are blinded. You mentioned Biden....if I start with you about American politics and style of govt, you will open mouth.

Then, I will go and pick Chinese form of government too. In that US, states take care of the police. Do you get it? How can FG be taking care of police? So, google is the thing one should consult to use his brain? Lol. Go and ask very well...the mayor of Washington had power over the police even during the crisis then (black lives matter). Trump had limited power. You talk like whatever. If he had 100% power like Buhari, of course, police would have shut everyone in the street. The mayor resisted Trump. Go and check very well cos you know all. Mr Alpha and Omega. Just saying what he doesnt know. How old are you? And what do you know sef?

You are sending me to google? You dont know me. In your world naval base is established in desert. Do you even know the level of the base Buhari wants to establish in Kano? Maybe you confused the US seal with US Navy. I think that's what confused you. You better get your sh*t together before you appear to debate with me cos I will rattle you. You dont know what you are saying at all. Or asking the British Naval to do what you are saying. This is how you confuse illiterates.

In your mind, you have educated me. Like I said, you have made yourself known as a dullard like the Buhari who wants it there.

He said FG is powerful everywhere. Lol. I mean, you need real understanding of this whole process. You need to study many EU nations, Asian nations, and even American to conclude. The things Buhari has put in your head you want to force on everyone will not work. You are all dullards. Oga, I will define government and law for you. Ses, we have started and nothing you can do. VAT is going to state. And Abiodun has started redefining reallocation. Go and hug a transformer near you as court will be the judge. Lagos has been beating FG silly since the time of Jagaban (1999). Go and ask how Osinbajo slammed Obadanjo many times reputedly at supreme court. You want to mess around with Lagos? Never. This is why Jagaban is powerful. Can you see how hausas are climbing behind him? Really, I dont like him that much cos I prefer someone else to lead us. But when it comes to governance, give it to him. Yes, I respect him. And when it comes to playing clean politics, he is a chief. Even OBJ knows it.

Oga, state policing has come to stay. It will be like "play play". You will just wake up one day and see that Abuja has lost power of controlling police. Then, your mad dog called DSS used to harass people will be checked well. You are laughing cos you dont understand law. Law is more powerful than all these things you are seeing. This is why presidential aspirants of powerful nations read law. Yes, military boys too. But now, we are beginning to use the power of law. Buhari will be checked. I have told you. He is going to be the last most powerful president in Nogeria. We will take more and more power from him. If you dont like it...kiss any transformer near you. Its law and government we are playing.


Anyway, I do not have your time like I said. People like you are the confutionist in this country. I mean, how can one says FG should be responsible for police. Police that is even down to the Local govt. Are you OK at all? Do you even know what policing is about? Cos Nigeria muddled up everything, you think people cant think? Policing is frass root security system. Federal Govt should not have autonomous power over it. It is wrong.

And didn't you read that SW governors are already clamoring for regional supreme courts? You talk like you are not in Nogeria. What you people want to use is psychological tactics to discourage people. But I am glad Buhari came to power to open the eyes of people. Gradually, we will get there. The way you all shouted Amotekun is rubbish. Lol. They said Wike is naive, and he slammed FG. Now SS govs have woken up.

In fact, continue boasting in what you dont know. I like the north. They rely on their population as a weapon to oppress others. But guess what? South has woken up. Lol. North will start hustling very soon. And I like that competition cos I may even move to the north. I gat friend there. Thatd when Agric will move to another dimension. I swear Kano and Kaduna will bring what is called top Agric methods on board. So, let the competition start and let's get a better Nigeria.

Please, I plead with you...dont quote me again cos the next you will get are what you deserve. I have warned you. Dont mention me again.

If you mention me again, whatever you get just be contended with it. I have warned you.

Goodbye!

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I will quote u anytime..it my phone, my data my choice...
....when did I make a point about the police...u displayed ur arrogance earlier by stating the military should be under states...now ur bringing up a whole different Epistle about police....

Face me like a man and prove why states should handle military ..don't beat around the Bush

Trump had limited power because he doesn't control the police..who argued that one...


The Navy base in IMO States handles financing and training. The navy divided the command and moved the training college to kano...The media paints it as if it a base that deals with deployment for war.. Rather it a training college...
The various stone frigate (land base) around the country were not built on swapping area..weather partially dried or completely dried...the common factor is .they are all on dry land.. I don't know why desert has become relevant in choice of land for a training college....
The Royal navy of Britain have many navy bases established on dry land...they have specific roles to carry out..


I completely know what Navy seal and am not mistaking it for Navy
Oga VAT is lawfully under the jurisdiction of state.. I haven't stated other wise..this is y wike could fight because it is lawful..state police isn't the solution to the security crises...and it is lawfully under Fg in Nigeria...my business is not who controls it but how it should be improved..moving the control to states cannot guarantee it effectiveness...and d fact that it is not under state is lawful based on Nigeria law not US until the NASS says other wise And amends it..

Who is against SW wanting supreme court..
Have u forgotten an autonomy was granted for the judiciary and courts generally should be under states..

Left me even leave US politics for now....
The mayor of Washington is not more powerful than Biden or trump..if u say otherwise then u don't know US politics,..
.stop beating around the Bush

PeaceJoyLove:
Your kind stays in a place where you are blinded. You mentioned Biden....if I start with you about American politics and style of govt, you will open mouth.

Then, I will go and pick Chinese form of government too. In that US, states take care of the police. Do you get it? How can FG be taking care of police? So, google is the thing one should consult to use his brain? Lol. Go and ask very well...the mayor of Washington had power over the police even during the crisis then (black lives matter). Trump had limited power. You talk like whatever. If he had 100% power like Buhari, of course, police would have shut everyone in the street. The mayor resisted Trump. Go and check very well cos you know all. Mr Alpha and Omega. Just saying what he doesnt know. How old are you? And what do you know sef?

You are sending me to google? You dont know me. In your world naval base is established in desert. Do you even know the level of the base Buhari wants to establish in Kano? Maybe you confused the US seal with US Navy. I think that's what confused you. You better get your sh*t together before you appear to debate with me cos I will rattle you. You dont know what you are saying at all. Or asking the British Naval to do what you are saying. This is how you confuse illiterates.

In your mind, you have educated me. Like I said, you have made yourself known as a dullard like the Buhari who wants it there.

He said FG is powerful everywhere. Lol. I mean, you need real understanding of this whole process. You need to study many EU nations, Asian nations, and even American to conclude. The things Buhari has put in your head you want to force on everyone will not work. You are all dullards. Oga, I will define government and law for you. Ses, we have started and nothing you can do. VAT is going to state. And Abiodun has started redefining reallocation. Go and hug a transformer near you as court will be the judge. Lagos has been beating FG silly since the time of Jagaban (1999). Go and ask how Osinbajo slammed Obadanjo many times reputedly at supreme court. You want to mess around with Lagos? Never. This is why Jagaban is powerful. Can you see how hausas are climbing behind him? Really, I dont like him that much cos I prefer someone else to lead us. But when it comes to governance, give it to him. Yes, I respect him. And when it comes to playing clean politics, he is a chief. Even OBJ knows it.

Oga, state policing has come to stay. It will be like "play play". You will just wake up one day and see that Abuja has lost power of controlling police. Then, your mad dog called DSS used to harass people will be checked well. You are laughing cos you dont understand law. Law is more powerful than all these things you are seeing. This is why presidential aspirants of powerful nations read law. Yes, military boys too. But now, we are beginning to use the power of law. Buhari will be checked. I have told you. He is going to be the last most powerful president in Nogeria. We will take more and more power from him. If you dont like it...kiss any transformer near you. Its law and government we are playing.


Anyway, I do not have your time like I said. People like you are the confutionist in this country. I mean, how can one says FG should be responsible for police. Police that is even down to the Local govt. Are you OK at all? Do you even know what policing is about? Cos Nigeria muddled up everything, you think people cant think? Policing is frass root security system. Federal Govt should not have autonomous power over it. It is wrong.

And didn't you read that SW governors are already clamoring for regional supreme courts? You talk like you are not in Nogeria. What you people want to use is psychological tactics to discourage people. But I am glad Buhari came to power to open the eyes of people. Gradually, we will get there. The way you all shouted Amotekun is rubbish. Lol. They said Wike is naive, and he slammed FG. Now SS govs have woken up.

In fact, continue boasting in what you dont know. I like the north. They rely on their population as a weapon to oppress others. But guess what? South has woken up. Lol. North will start hustling very soon. And I like that competition cos I may even move to the north. I gat friend there. Thatd when Agric will move to another dimension. I swear Kano and Kaduna will bring what is called top Agric methods on board. So, let the competition start and let's get a better Nigeria.

Please, I plead with you...dont quote me again cos the next you will get are what you deserve. I have warned you. Dont mention me again.

If you mention me again, whatever you get just be contended with it. I have warned you.

Goodbye!

Cognitivereason:
I will quote u anytime..it my phone, my data my choice...
....when did I make a point about the police...u displayed ur arrogance earlier by stating the military should be under states...now ur bringing up a whole different Epistle about police....

Face me like a man and prove why states should handle military ..don't beat around the Bush

Trump had limited power because he doesn't control the police..who argued that one...


The Navy base in IMO States handles financing and training. The navy divided the command and moved the training college to kano...The media paints it as if it a base that deals with deployment for war.. Rather it a training college...
The various stone frigate (land base) around the country were not built on swapping area..weather partially dried or completely dried...the common factor is .they are all on dry land.. I don't know why desert has become relevant in choice of land for a training college....
The Royal navy of Britain have many navy bases established on dry land...they have specific roles to carry out..


I completely know what Navy seal and am not mistaking it for Navy
Oga VAT is lawfully under the jurisdiction of state.. I haven't stated other wise..this is y wike could fight because it is lawful..state police isn't the solution to the security crises...and it is lawfully under Fg in Nigeria...my business is not who controls it but how it should be improved..moving the control to states cannot guarantee it effectiveness...and d fact that it is not under state is lawful based on Nigeria law not US until the NASS says other wise And amends it..

Who is against SW wanting supreme court..
Have u forgotten an autonomy was granted for the judiciary and courts generally should be under states..

Left me even leave US politics for now....
The mayor of Washington is not more powerful than Biden or trump..if u say otherwise then u don't know US politics,..
.stop beating around the Bush

The highlighted parts are funny.

Actually, I know you won't back down, but I'm shocked it took you long to use that google you referred me to find your answers, while I dashed the answers to your face instantly. The two highlighted parts say it all. The place you failed is the second highlighted. Go and read my last response. The reference of the mayor resisting Trunp was solely referenced to the DC police. Lol. Let me educate you further.... cos Trump could not control the local police, he wanted to use what? Go and use google and find out. Lol.

Also, the underlined part says it too. Now return to Google and list nations with multiple or regional supreme courts. Hahaha.

You want to tackle me. I will be the one to send you on errand. You dont know who you have jammed.

Now go and search on google and start naming them one after the other. Also, use Google and find out what Trunp wanted to use when he had no control of.the Police. Lol.


The search has started. Go boy. I'm in charge here. Lol.

@cognitivereason
So, cognitive is no more your name... even googlereason is not working again. Oops! You can reply me. Na so you go dey do like you know all. I too know people with zero upstairs. Lol. Go and meet your mate and argue with them told you I will wound you. Now, you can mention me again. Cho cho cho cho. Always doing like they know all. A beg ....go siddon. Yeye dey smell. Dont ever mention me again. Lol. Zero over hundred. Lol..

Godfullsam:
The best thing is to allow every states to generate revenue and manage it by themselves.

Enough of this useless and endless percentage allocation drama.

There is not going to be any sharing formula that will suit everyone.

Restructuring is the best option if we must tell ourselves the truth.

God bless you. That is what conditions beyond our control, such as very low commercial demand for fossil fuel by 2035, will lead us to whether we like it or not.

Worth bearing in mind that crude oil is Nigeria's biggest source of income.

A sensible nation with sensible people, if in Nigeria's shoes, would start preparing for what is to come asap rather than be caught totally off gaurd and unprepared in future.