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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by homeboy205: 12:15pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
zabimaru:He is on another time zone, he’s probably sleeping base on yankee time |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by zabimaru: 12:21pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
homeboy205:Nice. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by xperiencelove(m): 12:42pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Grupo:As much as you owns your car, I am talking from experience. Last year December, Dec 22 precisely, I bought a green colour Camry 03 from someone that needs some cash and the person uses 20W50. As at then, I already owned a gold colour big daddy which I bought in 2019 as toks which I have been using 5W30 full synthetic oil and I change it twice a year. A day after Easter Monday this year, the green color oil pump failed and spoilt the metal bearing. From my research and some technicians verdicts, the thicker the oil, the more power and force it requires for oil pump to pump the oil. I repaired it and sold it on July 9th and bought Camry 2012 that is on Castrol 5W30 full synthetic. The gold Camry is V6 VVTi, cool as ever, 5W30 lubricate well than 20W50, I have never add any fluid including coolant since I have bought it and it is the car I travels with which is the reason I bought V6 and I lives in Ibadan but works in Lagos Island. So whether you change the oil even 2k miles or 500miles, that oil is too tick for Camry 03 and upward oil pump. It is the oil pump weakness that mostly damage engine parts especially crankshaft and metal bearings because they won't get enough lubrication. The Mobil 1 full synthetic 5US Quartz I uses is 23k as at last month from Jumia and I change it at least twice a year. I do accrue minimum of 10k miles in a year. Calculate the amount you will spend in a year on thicker oil and calculate mine and see who saves more.
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 12:47pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
GAZZUZZ:Gazzuzz , Gazzzuz , how many times did I call ur name. It will be in ur own best interest to stay out of this ...I don't want open yash here Kindly please stay out of it ........now make I go back to Val guy... Car thread is about to be on fire |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by GAZZUZZ(m): 12:50pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
xperiencelove:Your engine did not knock because it was 20w50. A bad engine will naturally throw a rod
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by GAZZUZZ(m): 12:52pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
dru23:Threats and blackmail seem to be your modus operandi. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 1:01pm On Oct 10, 2021*. Modified: 1:31pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
xperiencelove:One thing 20w50 does is its silent any noise that the car might have......From experience again watching mechanic.. Once the car has piston, or rod issue the mechanic will use 20w50 oil to silence the noise instead of them to fix the car....... Continue using the recommended oil. The manufacture of the car know better... People that fail to do so , you should buy Innonson motor.. After all the car is built by a Nigerian and made for Nigerians ....... Instead of them to buy Innonson cars they wouldn't buy it ..... Also like you said , a thinker oil will force the oil pump to work harder to be able to pump the oil. If for some reason they want to use thicker oil .. Common sense will tell them to use 5w40 ... At least u move up a notch from 5w30 to 5w40 ... I mean this is common sense......... Do you wonder why Nigerians import so many car engines into ... The level of replacement of engine in this part of the world is an eye sore ..... No matter how slow parts might be .. I say it no matter how slow parts business might be ... If you bring in engines to sell , people will rush before they rush anything else.....Why is it so my brother .....the level of engine replacement in Nigeria is crazy bro ........... If i bring in 40ft container of just engine today.. Trust that engine will be gone .. They will rush it , parts dealers will be begging you to sell to them.. Just engines alone........ Now in the USA when you buy a brand new car. And the car comes with warranty. Do you know that if you use the wrong oil and the car gets damage. It will void the warranty.. Why don't we follow instructions in this part of the world.......... For those saying that oyel I want sell ... If I wanted to I could bring in 20w50 oyel to sell. But I know for a fact it is not the right oyel for most cars ..... It is for old cars built years ago .. And apart from that you can barely see 20w50 oyel to buy in the USA.. It is not very common oil..........please like I said continue to follow owners manual...........sorry for long ranting |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 1:02pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
GAZZUZZ:
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by Lizarazzu: 1:19pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Here to read comments,oga dru I am saying hello from this side. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 1:35pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Lizarazzu:Thank you my brother uber thread is finally getting some peace and quiet .. Na car thread I want shake up now ...... They never sabi me yet , make dey go ask the uber thread ![]() |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by xperiencelove(m): 1:40pm On Oct 10, 2021*. Modified: 2:01pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
GAZZUZZ:Talking from experince, coincidentally, in Qatar just as Nigeria, Toyota is the most popular car brand. Meanwhile the engine oil readily available is 10W30 follow by 5W30, 10W40, 0W20 all synthetic despite their hot weather. Synthetic oil doesn't break down. You can confirm from different vehicles with 20W50 mineral oil and 5W30 full synthetic oil that just arrived from far distances or you heat up both in different pan. If we are to go by weather, then no engine oil will work in countries like Mali and Burkina-Faso as they are the most hottest country in the world. Meanwhile Corrola is the car ruling Mali. As dru23 has rightly said, you guys help people to silent their noisy defective engines with 20W50. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 2:03pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
valarinz:This message is to you all that are bashing me .... Especially you ........ Valarinz , you seem to be drinking Panadol for somebody's else headache. Uber came to Nigeria in 2014 . I started uber few months after that, the camry issue happened during that period. And I stop using camry years ago for uber....... Since you are still drinking Panadol for somebody else issue that happened almost 10 years ago More than likely the person use the car and pass on it to the next person and they continue using their 20w50 xhp . And the next person will pass it on to the next .. And the next person will continue using 20w50 xhp .. The 20w50 circle continues........ We are now in 2021/ 2022... We have more important issues at hand..... By December $1 will 1k naira Davido and Chioma are no longer together Chioma is now selling China made bags via Instagram .... Buhari is still in Aso Rock we don't know when he is vacating that place Tinubu @70 says he wants bring democracy to Nigeria at 70 yrs old . Tiwa savage has a sex tape out maybe na gimmick to sell records we don't know o ...... We have unknown gunman running around in the east. But now they are running around in the North now.... Valarinz from Nairaland has bought all the Xc90 in USA and in Europe he is now into xc60 and ford cars My brother this is it o
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by olumzzz(m): 2:32pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
dru23:Mr Andrew, pls don't go this route. You made a mistake then peeps here pointed it out to you. Just own it and move on instead of throwing jabs. The op raised an issue, you started talking about 20w50 oyel. You didn't even address the issue at hand. This thread isn't a 20w50 or 5w30 debate group. Oil has dried in his engine, what should he do? |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by Conner44: 2:40pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
xperiencelove:Do you know that this same 20w50 oil you’re bad mouthing has its full synthetic versions from most major oil brands like Mobil. Valvoline. Liquimoly. etc? If you use that oil weight in a country that never sees very cold weather your engine will be fine although some newer engines from 2010 above tended to have tighter tolerances in oil passages and recommended lighter weight oils exclusively in their manuals. True story my dad purchased a new car back in 2005 and after the first year warranty changes at the dealership he started using Mobil XHP and changed it religiously every 4-5k kms or twice a year and till date that engine has never consumed a drop of oil, has no sludge, never smoked or developed any issue. When he wants to change the oil it would still look amber/golden as if the oil had never even been used. His mechanic takes it to use in his generator. It’s a toyota 2RZ EFI engine that has been using Mobil super XHP 20w50 conventional oil for 15 years till today. Even i myself that uses synthetic 5w30 my oil must be black by 5k kms when I’m supposed to change it out so I believe in everything concerning vehicles timely maintenance is key. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 2:43pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
GAZZUZZ:To start with TOKUNBO engines.. When buying tokunbo engines in Nigeria, you don't know how long that engine has been used.. That engine might look good , but more than likely has more miles.. Unlike the USA , you can call the junk yard and they can tell you the mileage on the engine. The lower the mileage of the engine the more expensive it cost....... Most importers that come to buy parts in the USA or elsewhere like u said will look for salvage cars to buy. The salvage car could have 200k plus miles on it. And the same engine that will be sold in Nigeria market.... Now would it make sense for me to buy a tokunbo car in Nigeria knowingly that the engine has been replaced in Nigeria with Tokunbo engine. Without knowing the true mileage of the car ? To me I will not do that.. And am sure the seller will not tell the buyer. It decreases the value of the car ...... And once there is engine replacement, the car will never be the same as manufacture fitted engine. A good mechanic that knows his onions, will tell you that the engine has been replaced ........All these things devalues the car.... And I doubt ur friend Val discloses this information to buyers...... Now the question remains why do Nigerian imports so many engine into the country? Why do we keep replacing our engine at such a high rate. Any other parts might not sale .. But engine parts will always sell no matter the condition....... In the USA or Europe will follow owners manual to prevent us from changing engine.. It is very expensive and labour intensive..... |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by LeJeun3: 2:54pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
dru23: Na wow, Dru in the mud
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by Grupo(m): 2:56pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
GAZZUZZ:Thank you. I don tire to argue on this topic. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by Grupo(m): 3:01pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
xperiencelove:In a year, you spend 46k on oil while I spend 32k. And my engine runs as good as yours. Who's the wiser man now? I don't condemn synthetic oil. They are very good. But I don't have money for it for now. So don't condemn the mineral oil I'm using. Since I change it frequently and it has not built sludge in my engine for more than two years now. For your car that the oil pump went bad, something else probably went wrong. Infrequent oil change and other abuses that Nigeria mete out on cars. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 3:07pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
olumzzz:For issues that happened almost 10 years ago.. The Op u mention does he have clean hands.. Let me tell something and pay attention closely........ First of all . I buy my cars from private seller, to online sellers.. So full disclosure is at my finger tips And in reality I don't depend on car sales to eat . depending on request I can ship about 12 cars a year depending on request. Unless am shipping to use on uber........ Now most of your car dealers here, car sales are their main source of income.. This guys ship double the cars or triple the cars I ship.. Since most of them buy via auction site.. The margin of error of bad cars with engine is will be high , parts etc will be high........ And these guys will do anything to sell their cars , especially when they are lossing money.. Most already don't make that much to start with.. And many of these guys roll back the mileage of the car . So are buyers aware of these things? And the cars that these guys post here on nairaland are the goods ones , so what happens to the bad cars they are not posting ........... So please don't come at me like that. You need to think objectively.. Please you are coming at me for something that occurred almost 10 years ago or u forgot to read that part.......... Your focus and concern should be dealers that sells cars full time bases. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by demolagilbert: 3:08pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
So much vawulence in this thread *grinning* Well, I have a low mileage 2010 Honda Civic that doesn't short oil for those looking for something fuel efficient. Check profile for pics and details |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 3:16pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
LeJeun3:
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 3:16pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
demolagilbert: ![]() |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:24pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Mobil1 engine oil USA specs available. You know where to find me
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 3:27pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Conner44:Why did your dad wait till it is out of warranty to start using 20w50....... 20w50 is for old engines my brother.. It is very hard to see it here in Yankee.. It is not commonly sold here..... For any major damage to occurred .. You said your dad bought the car brand new since 2005. He has been using 20w50 etc.. How often does he drive the car? Does he do up to 12k miles a year.. With Lagos traffic like New York and over crowding all over the place. How often does he drive the car for any damage to really occurred.. I doubt it that much... Some cars will have head gasket issue . you might not know. But the more you drive it the more the problem will eventually come to surface ............ 20w50 is not a common oil here in the states. You really have to go find it .. It is not commonly sold here. Modern engine have tighter clearance and 20w50 will be too thick for such |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by Timblogga: 3:28pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
GAZZUZZ:He was trying to make a failed point, which I didn’t even understand so I ignored. How’s installing a Tokunbo engine on a car bad, in fact that’s the closest in reliability to buying a direct foreign used car. I bought similar Camry In 2018 like Dru23 described. Car kept shutting oil, Kept spending money on mechanics removing my engine and looking for leaks till I ended up buying a Tokunbo engine and had peace of mind. |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 3:29pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
GAZZUZZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvkJ8fwgEuQ
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 3:32pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Timblogga:Peace of mind.. What is the mileage on the Tokunbo engine... Funny guy .. My question is would you have bought that 2018 Tokunbo car knowing that the seller change the engine ? |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by olumzzz(m): 3:33pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
Na wa o. I even tried reasoning with him. No way. I leave him to the wolves |
| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 3:42pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
mammanbawa:
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 4:15pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
zabimaru:
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 4:25pm On Oct 10, 2021*. Modified: 4:56pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
zabimaru:Are you advocating for mass suicide by " taste" the oil first
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| Re: Oil Not Showing On Dip Stick by dru23(m): 4:36pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
zabimaru: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m4U9D-OJEQ |
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