do4luv14:



For 2021 it should not be,

it's Jorginho that owns 2021, no two way about it,

the Champions League and Euro this year are both bigger than copa, and del Rey

Euro is not bigger. They are both continental tournament with world class players and the only difference is Euro has more participants cos Europe is bigger with 53 countries.

As for Jorginho, he deserves nothing......someone that can't even claim to be his club's best player. The award is based on individual performance not by escorting you team to win trophies. With or without him, nothing would have stopped Chelsea & Italy from winning the UCL & Euros.

OJEEMAH:
Euro is not bigger. They are both continental tournament with world class players and the only difference is Euro has more participants cos Europe is bigger with 53 countries.

As for Jorginho, he deserves nothing......someone that can't even claim to be his club's best player. The award is based on individual performance not by escorting you team to win trophies. With or without him, nothing would have stopped Chelsea & Italy from winning the UCL & Euros.

OJ, as in I don't understand this Jorginho agenda o? It's ridiculous and I think it's due to the social media age we are in that is putting pressure on him to be in the conversation. As in how? he doesn't even deserve to be in the 30-man shortlist IMO. Someone that lost penalty for Italy and could have been responsible for his country's exit at the Euros, did nothing spectacular. Is that how low these agendists think the Ballon D'or has become? Let's even look at precedents and they are plenty:

2012 Juan Mata - won UCL with Chelsea and Euros with Spain. Won Chelsea's player of the year award (2011/2012). The baba no even make the 23-man list let alone top 3 Ballon D'or nominees.

2014 Mesuit Ozil & Sammie Khedira - Both won UCL with Madrid and World cup with Germany (with Khedira scoring 2 goals against almighty Brazil in a 7-1 Semi-final demolition) - Both of them no smell shingba at Ballon D'or podium level

2008 Gerard Pique - Won both UCL for Man Utd and Euros for Spain. Yet would never even make a 100-man list for ballon D'or nominees that year

2002 Roberto Carlos - Won UCL for Madrid and World Cup for Brazil and actually scored blinding goals in both tournaments, yet man did not even make top 10.

2000 Makelele - Same story as Roberto Carlos only that his national honours came with France at Euro 2000. You guessed right, he was watching the Ballon D'or ceremony from home like you and I lol.

2016 Pepe - Even though we know he wasn't going to win it over Ronaldo, at least based on Jorginho's law he should have made top 3. But as you well know, he didn't even make top 3 for Madrid let alone globally. Same as Contreao.

2018 Varane - Won World Cup for France and UCL for Madrid with stellar performances. Still did not make top 5 Ballon D'or list

With plenty precedence wey dey above, how Jorginho own come be. Most of the above players even had way better individual contributions to their teams' successes, yet them no smell am. Make Jorgendists go and sit down abeg.

ThierryJay:


OJ, as in I don't understand this Jorginho agenda o? It's ridiculous and I think it's due to the social media age we are in that is putting pressure on him to be in the conversation. As in how? he doesn't even deserve to be in the 30-man shortlist IMO. Someone that lost penalty for Italy and could have been responsible for his country's exit at the Euros, did nothing spectacular. Is that how low these agendists think the Ballon D'or has become? Let's even look at precedents and they are plenty:

2012 Juan Mata - won UCL with Chelsea and Euros with Spain. Won Chelsea's player of the year award (2011/2012). The baba no even make the 23-man list let alone top 3 Ballon D'or nominees.

2014 Mesuit Ozil & Sammie Khedira - Both won UCL with Madrid and World cup with Germany (with Khedira scoring 2 goals against almighty Brazil in a 7-1 Semi-final demolition) - Both of them no smell shingba at Ballon D'or podium level

2008 Gerard Pique - Won both UCL for Man Utd and Euros for Spain. Yet would never even make a 100-man list for ballon D'or nominees that year

2002 Roberto Carlos - Won UCL for Madrid and World Cup for Brazil and actually scored blinding goals in both tournaments, yet man did not even make top 10.

2000 Makelele - Same story as Roberto Carlos only that his national honours came with France at Euro 2000. You guessed right, he was watching the Ballon D'or ceremony from home like you and I lol.

2016 Pepe - Even though we know he wasn't going to win it over Ronaldo, at least based on Jorginho's law he should have made top 3. But as you well know, he didn't even make top 3 for Madrid let alone globally. Same as Contreao.

2018 Varane - Won World Cup for France and UCL for Madrid with stellar performances. Still did not make top 5 Ballon D'or list

With plenty precedence wey dey above, how Jorginho own come be. Most of the above players even had way better individual contributions to their teams' successes, yet them no smell am. Make Jorgendists go and sit down abeg.

Everyone on this list is better than Jorginho

But yet, he wants to win d'or

It will be a joke for j5 to win it and van dijk

Same reason Van dijk can't win it
Puque, Terry, Vidic, Ramos, Puyol,.... Are far better defenders and they never won it

Prinxzona10:
I've been reading some messages about all these Ronaldo and Messi's debate here for many years buh I just decided to spare some time out to address it once and for all...it might be long buh it worth reading.there's nohow you can like football and dislike Ronaldo or Messi except you ain't no football lover.you may have your preference between them buh it shouldn't make you to dislike(hate) the other buh what I read here all the time is hate towards the choice rival and it sucks and makes me wanna puke honestly..why would you be hating on someone that knows nothing about your existence?why would you be fighting one another about someone that doesn't know you?the person you fights here is 95% likely to help you tomorrow while the person you're fighting for here is unlikely even on the 0.00000001%.this is the truth and nothing buh the truth of all this Ronaldo and Messi debate and I wouldn't fight or argue with anybody about that because I'm(was)a professional footballer,on the sideline since because of some serious injuries(village people).. The truth is that both are good buh Messi always have this likable and favourable advantage ahead of Ronaldo and I will explain more better for you.the truth is that they had made some cheating cases for Ronaldo and Messi to won the award buh Messi was in higher side of the cheating,via twice on his side while Ronaldo was once buh he(Ronaldo) was also cheated on,which I presumed to be a balanced scenario now.so in 2010,sneidjer won triple cups in Italy,including the Champion's league and went to the world cup and took a 2nd position even also with a joint highest goalscorer (5),Iniesta and Xavi won the LA liga,won the world cup and all these three players were exceptional on their best that season buh at the end of the day,they awarded the balon d'or to Messi and even if I so much love Messi,I believed that it was a very big injustice towards those three....In 2013,Ribery and Arjen Robben were exceptional,especially Ribery buh they prolonged the voting patterns and system to favour Ronaldo,simple because Messi had won it 4 consecutive times and they feel like they would compensate Ronaldo because even all those years Messi have been winning it,Ronaldo was still on fire..Then in 2018,Ronaldo was likely to win it buh because Modric got to the world cup final,they gave it to Modric and in 2019,Van vigil dyke was also supposed to win it buh they gave it to Messi again,so here we are in 2021,the favour have shifted to Messi again buh people don't ask questions especially when your favourite happens to be in a more better position to win it.....I will pinpoint some vital things you guys have to read,assimilate, digest and come in conclusion about without been bias,angry,frustrated and jilted about it because it's simple the truth whether you accept it or not........Firstly,If they would bypass Sneidjer,Iniesta and Xavi after winning everything with their individual contributions and gave it to Messi,what makes you think that the voting system wasn't rigged then?.(Guess Individual and Clubs and Countries performances,had eluded some Messi's fans here huh?)..........Secondly,If they would postponed or prolonged the voting in 2013 to favour Ronaldo to the detriment of Ribery after his individual performances then,what also makes you think that the system wasn't rigged?.(Guess the Club performances had eluded some Ronaldo's fans here huh?).............Another great question for the lovers of the game especially some Messi's fans..... Would you have accepted Modric's award and not've opposed to it,if Messi would've won the Champion's league,had the highest goals,went to the same world cup and scored 4 goals,via that the highest goalscorer scored 6 goals(Harry Kane)?because even that year individually,Ronaldo was very far ahead of him(Modric)..Guess individual performances had eluded some Messi's fans here also huh?..(respect to Modric because he also tried buh never upto Sneidjer,Xavi and Iniesta then in 2010 when Messi won it)..........In 2019,Vigil van dyke did exceptionally well and since it happens to be an individual award,he supposed likely to've won it then buh they gave it to Messi,citing goals and individual performances buh in football,we have position and division of labour and everybody have to perform his own credibly nice and vigil van dyke did his own because you don't expect a defender to defend and also score goals or assist goals for you(even though no law prohibite such in football)...Guess club performances was excluded here also huh?........The truth is that when someone likes you,he or she sees no bad in you and when arguing football here,don't argue with a fanatical fan because their mind have been programmed to love their own and dislike(hate) the other....some people make case against lewandoski,via that he's a striker and was meant to be scoring goals while Messi is meant to be giving assists and this same fan came up with this when somebody told him that lewandoski got more goals ahead of Messi,since the fans uses his(Messi's) goals to rate him ahead of others......Another thing I found amusing was when Ronaldo went to Man Utd and scored 4 goals in his first three appearances and I still saw some people hating on the dude buh when Messi scored his first Champion's league goal,everywhere was on fire and the bragging started and I ask myself this question,what if reverse happens to be the case,via Ronaldo never scored and Messi scored 4 goals in his 3 first appearances eeh?..Your guess is as good as mine!!!!......Look,they don't know me or my existence and I can never be arguing or fighting my fellow guy because of them buh the truth is that I love Messi and I also love Ronaldo because they have achieved what would take another century to achieve in football....Ronaldo is the best and Messi is also the best buh sentiment aside,the award always favours Messi.Logically and individually,it should be between Ronaldo and Messi buh this award is yearly,via your performance for a year buh so many people use to bring up past performances of both guys especially some Messi's fans and it doesn't make any sense because we had already known that Ronaldo and Messi are the greatest in their generation buh the award is not a generational award buh an award for a yearly performance of which I believe that without been bias,I don't think both if them deserve it this year except you wanna keep telling yourself lies to make yourself happy.....(Well,using an Individual performances in 2020),then 2020 is for Lewandoski because of his club performances and an individual performances buh in 2021,using an individual performances again,Lewandoski still deserve it buh using a country or club performances, then Joginho deserves it buh the truth of the whole thing is that,they would likely screw everything to Messi's favour and finally,he's likely to win the 2021 Balon d'or and if you're still doubting me,ask yourself while they decided to give the one if 2020 because they wouldn't wanna see people drag them in the mud for neglecting Lewandoski,hence the reason they decided to give it(2020) this year to compensate him while making way for Messi for 2021 Balon d'or....I humbly greet everybody and lovers of the game buh make sure you stops fighting your brothers and sisters here because of those people that doesn't give a dime about yaa all...I salute you all..I came in peace and I'm also leaving in peace....gracias!!!!..

This werey still dey disguise

Someone that spends his whole life hating on Messi wan dey form I love messi

The way you type
Your same useless narratives and the
Long, boring, sentimental epistles in favour of Ronaldo outed you

@kingcalls....you are only fooling your ancestors

JohnnyPalmer:


This werey still dey disguise

Someone that spends his whole life hating on Messi wan dey form I love messi

The way you type
Your same useless narratives and the
Long, boring, sentimental epistles in favour of Ronaldo outed you

@kingcalls....you are only fooling your ancestors

Good for you

RORO will surely win it

ThierryJay:


OJ, as in I don't understand this Jorginho agenda o? It's ridiculous and I think it's due to the social media age we are in that is putting pressure on him to be in the conversation. As in how? he doesn't even deserve to be in the 30-man shortlist IMO. Someone that lost penalty for Italy and could have been responsible for his country's exit at the Euros, did nothing spectacular. Is that how low these agendists think the Ballon D'or has become? Let's even look at precedents and they are plenty:

2012 Juan Mata - won UCL with Chelsea and Euros with Spain. Won Chelsea's player of the year award (2011/2012). The baba no even make the 23-man list let alone top 3 Ballon D'or nominees.

2014 Mesuit Ozil & Sammie Khedira - Both won UCL with Madrid and World cup with Germany (with Khedira scoring 2 goals against almighty Brazil in a 7-1 Semi-final demolition) - Both of them no smell shingba at Ballon D'or podium level

2008 Gerard Pique - Won both UCL for Man Utd and Euros for Spain. Yet would never even make a 100-man list for ballon D'or nominees that year

2002 Roberto Carlos - Won UCL for Madrid and World Cup for Brazil and actually scored blinding goals in both tournaments, yet man did not even make top 10.

2000 Makelele - Same story as Roberto Carlos only that his national honours came with France at Euro 2000. You guessed right, he was watching the Ballon D'or ceremony from home like you and I lol.

2016 Pepe - Even though we know he wasn't going to win it over Ronaldo, at least based on Jorginho's law he should have made top 3. But as you well know, he didn't even make top 3 for Madrid let alone globally. Same as Contreao.

2018 Varane - Won World Cup for France and UCL for Madrid with stellar performances. Still did not make top 5 Ballon D'or list

With plenty precedence wey dey above, how Jorginho own come be. Most of the above players even had way better individual contributions to their teams' successes, yet them no smell am. Make Jorgendists go and sit down abeg.

Thierry, no worry head. They sound like its not the same Jorginho that we all know and watch on a weekly basis.

Even Jorginho knows, he doesn't deserve shit......read what Cassano said when he spoke to Jorginho about Balon D'or.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goal.com/en-gb/amp/news/jorginho-agrees-it-would-be-a-scandal-if-he-wins-ballon-dor-over-/pfrvu6qrjyf6zare3398ymyj

d only big trophy Jogginhole won was d champions league, Euros is as big as AFCON, super cup is a what I do not understand cup cuz I thought he should b d biggest but it is not for Club teams, it should b like world cup in d club level