₦airaland Forum

Mercychen:
Op, that your number 4 is not a myth. It's very true The more expensive a drug is the more effective it will be.
I'm talking from personal experience. It happened to me on two occasions.

One was during the lock down. I was down with malaria and typhoid. Then a chemist recommended lonart because I told him I was on a low budget. After taking it, no single relief. Same thing with the cheap typhoid drugs I took.

I then went to a big pharmacy and the pharmacist told me to go for the expensive drugs ( co
Ciprotab and pialaxin) that I should stop *pinching" money. Lo and behold before I finished the course, I was Hale and hearty.

Recently same thing happened.
I bought 800 malaria drugs. Nothing. I now went back and bought pialaxin, immediately after the first dose, I felt instant relief. So brand matters. All these smaller brands don't really work.

You want to compare becham Amoxil with other brands of Amoxil?
This one is a fact.

Spot on!
Recent times, most doctors especially Lagos will prescribe what they can gain from
Don't ask how

Theunbothered:
The fact remains that herbal medicines do not work, most of the Nigerians who support their use can not bring any scientific articles showing how they work when compared to standard pharmaceuticals.


Just "my mommy said" and insults

I beg to disagree totally on this assertion. I have taken herbal for 5 years now without any orthodox medications whatsoever and I have significant results. Organic herbal works on the source of the disease and clears it out completely. I caught covid and with my herbal supplements alone taken on empty stomach with just herbal tea and honey for energy. The next day I was at my duty post with just metallic feeling in my mouth. This was monday, by friday I lost my sense of smell and taste and that was why I knew it was covid. Subsequently with dizzy spells, I took another supplement that dialates the arteries for free flow of blood which also enhances oxygen flow.....that was the end of the symptoms completely.

The organic herbal nutrients work best on empty stomach. With recommendations for other health conditions, I have had several testimonies.

The brand is expensive not cheap ......gold is more valuable than its imitation. Take it or leave it.

mu2sa2:
When you drink agbo you're taking herbal concoction together with dirt. The agbo may not work but the dirt may introduce harmful germs into your body which will add to problems.

If Everyone was Me, Hunger will kee Agbo Sellers!

I Don't know y lots of people buy d Stuff. Because the Cans always look Dirty!
I wonder how the preparations is Like!

Jackson105:
You are the one getting it wrong, Lonart and P-alaxin are different drugs not just brand, they are both anti-malaria but the constituent is different.

Lonart contain Arthemether-Lumefantrine(A/L) while P-alaxin contain Dihydroartemisine-piperaquine,(D/P) most likely other brands containing (A/L) will not work for you, while that containing (D/P) will

How was I supposed to know when I'm not a pharmacist?

By the way, combination drugs works for me because that's what i normally use in the form of lumefantrin and Amartem but he was out of stock of it and then gave me lonart that day. Which didn't do jack!

Dozis:
1. Antibiotics dry up blood when you take them and so it must be taken with blood supplements. This is very wrong, antibiotics do not dry blood, ask your doctor or pharmacist whatever you need to know when taking antibiotics.

2. The white vitamin C works better than the coloured one. The difference between the coloured and white vitamin C are the colourants and sweeteners used to manufacture the latter, ordinarily vitamin C does not have a sweet taste but sweeteners and colourants are incorporated into the active drug during compounding/manufacture to improve the taste and aesthetics, that's all.
The sour or sweet taste is not associated with efficacy.

3. Anti helminthics (worm expellers) should be taken after taking sugar or sugary food.
Some people say this is done to entice the worm to come out and eat the sugary food so that the drugs can act on it. This is one of the most hilarious stuff I've ever heard as a pharmacist, however it is not true, just take your worm expeller as prescribed by your doctor.

4. The more expensive the drug the more effective it is compared to another brand of the same drug. This is not always true, most times you are just buying a name or a brand.

5. The particular brand prescribed by the doctor is always the best, doctors are meant to prescribe generics so that the pharmacist will be at liberty to select the available brand and dispense to the patient, most times the patient may not have enough money to buy the particular brand prescribed and the proper thing to do would be to dispense an affordable but effective brand, there are some cases where some patients would be walking from Pharmacy to Pharmacy looking for a particular brand that was given to them in the hospital while there are several other brands that they can purchase that would do same thing.

6. Roadside drug sellers are more affordable than pharmacies and hospitals. This particular myth should be listed as one of the thousand ways to die in Nigeria, patronising quacks is a sure way to meet your maker quickly. In every pharmacy, there are usually up to 5 brands of the same drug and their prices are always different too, this is to cater for needs of everyone, wether high, medium or low class, when you get into the Pharmacy, tell the pharmacist the amount you have, the chances are high that he has the drug you want that you can afford at that price, apart from getting an affordable and effective medication, you also get a sound drug information. Also make it a habit to go to the hospital when you are not feeling fine, don't wait till it's too late, government hospitals are still cheap in Nigeria, just go on time.

7. Herbal medicines are safer than orthodox medicines. Some people forget that most orthodox drugs are sourced from natural sources, moreover a particular plant may contain thousands or millions of phytochemicals, some medicinal and some harmful.

You can state yours

Thank you sir. I have a particular argument with my doctor. Each time I take sugar, it knocks my waist. Also drinks that have sugar do the same. My doctor is arguing my waist knock is not from this. Problem is that it doesn't take long to confirm this. Once I take sugar, am knocked. What have you to say about this my friend.

Dozis:
3. Anti helminthics (worm expellers) should be taken after taking sugar or sugary food.
Some people say this is done to entice the worm to come out and eat the sugary food so that the drugs can act on it. This is one of the most hilarious stuff I've ever heard as a pharmacist, however it is not true, just take your worm expeller as prescribed by your doctor.

Reason am na, this one makes sense small

NoToPile:
I was even surprised when I saw P alaxin, I react to that drug serious nausea, the doctor then told me to stop it immediately and then sometime later it was prescribed for my mum, told her not to take it because if I react to it there's a possibility she will. She didn't listen and the exact same effect she also had to stop the drug ,no other way I can explain it than nausea but its a not so nice feeling.

Since then (more than 10 years now) we all run from p-alaxin .

its the artmeter lumenfantrine drugs for malaria that we seem to tolerate well and the cheap ones even work too.

It does not work for me.. It even seems like juice to the parasites cos there won't be any positive effect

SpecialAdviser:
Thank you sir. I have a particular argument with my doctor. E[b]ach time I take sugar, it knocks my waist[/b]. Also drinks that have sugar do the same. My doctor is arguing my waist knock is not from this. Problem is that it doesn't take long to confirm this. Once I take sugar, am knocked. What have you to say about this my friend.

This is funny. Knock your waist as in how?

Dozis:
To avoid stories, just use water.

Bros, I can never take flagyl with water o

That drug is bitter meehn

BuddhaPalm:
This is funny. Knock your waist as in how?

Waist pain

Mercychen:
How was I supposed to know when I'm not a pharmacist?

By the way, combination drugs works for me because that's what i normally use in the form of lumefantrin and Amartem but he was out of stock of it and then gave me lonart that day. Which didn't do jack!

You authoritatively quoted that the OP's assertion is not a myth but factual. Since you're not sure, you shouldn't have made it look like the OP doesn't know what they are saying. That only the expensive drugs work for you is your luck. There are people that the expensive drugs won't do jack for unless they take the cheap ones. We're all wired differently.
The OP is actually correct in what they posted with regards to that number 4

Dozis:
1. Antibiotics dry up blood when you take them and so it must be taken with blood supplements. This is very wrong, antibiotics do not dry blood, ask your doctor or pharmacist whatever you need to know when taking antibiotics.

2. The white vitamin C works better than the coloured one. The difference between the coloured and white vitamin C are the colourants and sweeteners used to manufacture the latter, ordinarily vitamin C does not have a sweet taste but sweeteners and colourants are incorporated into the active drug during compounding/manufacture to improve the taste and aesthetics, that's all.
The sour or sweet taste is not associated with efficacy.

3. Anti helminthics (worm expellers) should be taken after taking sugar or sugary food.
Some people say this is done to entice the worm to come out and eat the sugary food so that the drugs can act on it. This is one of the most hilarious stuff I've ever heard as a pharmacist, however it is not true, just take your worm expeller as prescribed by your doctor.

4. The more expensive the drug the more effective it is compared to another brand of the same drug. This is not always true, most times you are just buying a name or a brand.

5. The particular brand prescribed by the doctor is always the best, doctors are meant to prescribe generics so that the pharmacist will be at liberty to select the available brand and dispense to the patient, most times the patient may not have enough money to buy the particular brand prescribed and the proper thing to do would be to dispense an affordable but effective brand, there are some cases where some patients would be walking from Pharmacy to Pharmacy looking for a particular brand that was given to them in the hospital while there are several other brands that they can purchase that would do same thing.

6. Roadside drug sellers are more affordable than pharmacies and hospitals. This particular myth should be listed as one of the thousand ways to die in Nigeria, patronising quacks is a sure way to meet your maker quickly. In every pharmacy, there are usually up to 5 brands of the same drug and their prices are always different too, this is to cater for needs of everyone, wether high, medium or low class, when you get into the Pharmacy, tell the pharmacist the amount you have, the chances are high that he has the drug you want that you can afford at that price, apart from getting an affordable and effective medication, you also get a sound drug information. Also make it a habit to go to the hospital when you are not feeling fine, don't wait till it's too late, government hospitals are still cheap in Nigeria, just go on time.

7. Herbal medicines are safer than orthodox medicines. Some people forget that most orthodox drugs are sourced from natural sources, moreover a particular plant may contain thousands or millions of phytochemicals, some medicinal and some harmful.

You can state yours

Vitamin c 1000mg and 2bitter kola every day will build an immune system so strong that no sickness go near you

Lagusta:
Bros, I can never take flagyl with water o

That drug is bitter meehn

Lol,
Flagyl is a terrorist, I don't take it, I normally use Secnidazole, it's just four tablets at once and I'm done, no need for Flagyl.

delzbaba:
I recently discovered that my system is adapting to P alaxin more than othet arthemeter drugs, is this a good thing or a bad thing, what if the company stops producing it.

Yeah, it's all about resistance. You don't take an antimalarial over and over again and expect that it'll continue to work.

In fact, that's another myth, as many would say, it's only eg Lonart that work for me. The more you frequent a particular antimalarial, the higher the chances of your body resistance to it. So, it's preferable to alternate them and not frequent a particular one.

Dozis:
Lol
Panadol is a brand of paracetamol manufactured by GSK, seriously I don explain tire to people. What I now do is to tell them, "please don't take it with anything containing paracetamol because they both contain Acetaminophen" they believe that line faster because I have mentioned what they don't understand.
The warm water own, I don't even know how that one started.

People go for the brand names because of reliability. GSK is most likely to vend Paracetamol at 500mg than a generic made in India "for the Nigerian Market" that someone from Nigeria has told the manufacturer to scale down the active ever so slightly (if they are nice) or completely leave out the active if they are gangster

Mercychen:
Op, that your number 4 is not a myth. It's very true The more expensive a drug is the more effective it will be.
I'm talking from personal experience. It happened to me on two occasions.

One was during the lock down. I was down with malaria and typhoid. Then a chemist recommended lonart because I told him I was on a low budget. After taking it, no single relief. Same thing with the cheap typhoid drugs I took.

I then went to a big pharmacy and the pharmacist told me to go for the expensive drugs ( co
Ciprotab and pialaxin) that I should stop *pinching" money. Lo and behold before I finished the course, I was Hale and hearty.

Recently same thing happened.
I bought 800 malaria drugs. Nothing. I now went back and bought pialaxin, immediately after the first dose, I felt instant relief. So brand matters. All these smaller brands don't really work.

You want to compare becham Amoxil with other brands of Amoxil?
This one is a fact.

Hmm, it might not be malaria and typhoid o. Go for full body check up.

Partteen:
I beg to disagree totally on this assertion. I have taken herbal for 5 years now without any orthodox medications whatsoever and I have significant results. Organic herbal works on the source of the disease and clears it out completely. I caught covid and with my herbal supplements alone taken on empty stomach with just herbal tea and honey for energy. The next day I was at my duty post with just metallic feeling in my mouth. This was monday, by friday I lost my sense of smell and taste and that was why I knew it was covid. Subsequently with dizzy spells, I took another supplement that dialates the arteries for free flow of blood which also enhances oxygen flow.....that was the end of the symptoms completely.

The organic herbal nutrients work best on empty stomach. With recommendations for other health conditions, I have had several testimonies.

The brand is expensive not cheap ......gold is more valuable than its imitation. Take it or leave it.

I'm not reading all this nonsense, where is the scientific evidence for herbal medicine?

Covid-19 gives mild to no symptoms for most cases so claiming herbal medicines saved you from the disease is ridiculous.

It's always personal stories from patients who never went to the hospital for a proper or have mild illnesses that will be resolved with bed rest.

I also have personal testimonies about how they ruined patient's livers and pregnancies.

Dozis:
There are people that do not take any other anti malarial apart from Lonart and they get better with it, your case could be drug resistance.

I quite agree with you... I can take any drug that is 500mg... It's going to be a hell down ride..

Theunbothered:
The fact remains that herbal medicines do not work, most of the Nigerians who support their use can not bring any scientific articles showing how they work when compared to standard pharmaceuticals.


Just "my mommy said" and insults

I don't know about all of them but I recall when I got food poisoning ( on holiday) and can't remember what meds I was prescribed but three weeks after returning home, I still had recurring stomach pains.

Mentioned it to my mum and she gave me some herbal infusion. Well the food poisoning happened 13 years ago, not only did it sort me out, never had one since then.

Actually, Lonart and P-alaxin are made by one and the same company.

Your body only responded better to the active ingredients in P-alaxin than it did to the one in Lonart.

Mercychen:
Op, that your number 4 is not a myth. It's very true The more expensive a drug is the more effective it will be.
I'm talking from personal experience. It happened to me on two occasions.

One was during the lock down. I was down with malaria and typhoid. Then a chemist recommended lonart because I told him I was on a low budget. After taking it, no single relief. Same thing with the cheap typhoid drugs I took.

I then went to a big pharmacy and the pharmacist told me to go for the expensive drugs ( co
Ciprotab and pialaxin) that I should stop *pinching" money. Lo and behold before I finished the course, I was Hale and hearty.

Recently same thing happened.
I bought 800 malaria drugs. Nothing. I now went back and bought pialaxin, immediately after the first dose, I felt instant relief. So brand matters. All these smaller brands don't really work.

You want to compare becham Amoxil with other brands of Amoxil?
This one is a fact.

Mercychen:
Op, that your number 4 is not a myth. It's very true The more expensive a drug is the more effective it will be.
I'm talking from personal experience. It happened to me on two occasions.

One was during the lock down. I was down with malaria and typhoid. Then a chemist recommended lonart because I told him I was on a low budget. After taking it, no single relief. Same thing with the cheap typhoid drugs I took.

I then went to a big pharmacy and the pharmacist told me to go for the expensive drugs ( co
Ciprotab and pialaxin) that I should stop *pinching" money. Lo and behold before I finished the course, I was Hale and hearty.

Recently same thing happened.
I bought 800 malaria drugs. Nothing. I now went back and bought pialaxin, immediately after the first dose, I felt instant relief. So brand matters. All these smaller brands don't really work.

You want to compare becham Amoxil with other brands of Amoxil?
This one is a fact.

My small ten pence here. First Lonart n P alaxin r not the same chemical combinations, both r for malaria but quite different from each other.
2 there is a possibility that in d first case u were not given any antibiotic for ur typhoid, now ciprotab is a good brand of ciprofloxacin, but do u know that there was a time that ciprotab was not d first choice in brands of ciprofloxacin? Through the market evolving , now those other brands of ciprofloxacin r not available anymore, making ciprotab the first choice now. My small piece of info.

shaybebaby:
I don't know about all of them but I recall when I got food poisoning ( on holiday) and can't remember what meds I was prescribed but three weeks after returning home, I still had recurring stomach pains.

Mentioned it to my mum and she gave me some herbal infusion. Well the food poisoning happened 13 years ago, not only did it sort me out, never had one since then.

Food poisoning is caused by contaminated food, you went on holiday and ate contaminated food, if you stay away from contaminated food you won't get food poisoning.

Herbal medicines are still trash.

Dozis:
1. Antibiotics dry up blood when you take them and so it must be taken with blood supplements. This is very wrong, antibiotics do not dry blood, ask your doctor or pharmacist whatever you need to know when taking antibiotics.

2. The white vitamin C works better than the coloured one. The difference between the coloured and white vitamin C are the colourants and sweeteners used to manufacture the latter, ordinarily vitamin C does not have a sweet taste but sweeteners and colourants are incorporated into the active drug during compounding/manufacture to improve the taste and aesthetics, that's all.
The sour or sweet taste is not associated with efficacy.

3. Anti helminthics (worm expellers) should be taken after taking sugar or sugary food.
Some people say this is done to entice the worm to come out and eat the sugary food so that the drugs can act on it. This is one of the most hilarious stuff I've ever heard as a pharmacist, however it is not true, just take your worm expeller as prescribed by your doctor.

4. The more expensive the drug the more effective it is compared to another brand of the same drug. This is not always true, most times you are just buying a name or a brand.

5. The particular brand prescribed by the doctor is always the best, doctors are meant to prescribe generics so that the pharmacist will be at liberty to select the available brand and dispense to the patient, most times the patient may not have enough money to buy the particular brand prescribed and the proper thing to do would be to dispense an affordable but effective brand, there are some cases where some patients would be walking from Pharmacy to Pharmacy looking for a particular brand that was given to them in the hospital while there are several other brands that they can purchase that would do same thing.

6. Roadside drug sellers are more affordable than pharmacies and hospitals. This particular myth should be listed as one of the thousand ways to die in Nigeria, patronising quacks is a sure way to meet your maker quickly. In every pharmacy, there are usually up to 5 brands of the same drug and their prices are always different too, this is to cater for needs of everyone, wether high, medium or low class, when you get into the Pharmacy, tell the pharmacist the amount you have, the chances are high that he has the drug you want that you can afford at that price, apart from getting an affordable and effective medication, you also get a sound drug information. Also make it a habit to go to the hospital when you are not feeling fine, don't wait till it's too late, government hospitals are still cheap in Nigeria, just go on time.

7. Herbal medicines are safer than orthodox medicines. Some people forget that most orthodox drugs are sourced from natural sources, moreover a particular plant may contain thousands or millions of phytochemicals, some medicinal and some harmful.

You can state yours

So so guilty of number 5. My grandma will never agree with you if you tell her that you can't find doctor prescribe brand but the one the pharmacist got still do the same work as the doctors prescribe brand. We will argue from morning to night. Ever since then I always go extra mile to search and search for doctors prescribe brand just to please grand mother. Gone are the days I walk down apapa oyingbo road from chemist to chemist looking for doctors brand.

Don't take drugs with cold water.

I'm not a doctor but hmmmm.......

The water is just to get the drug inside my stomach

Dozis:
1. Antibiotics dry up blood when you take them and so it must be taken with blood supplements. This is very wrong, antibiotics do not dry blood, ask your doctor or pharmacist whatever you need to know when taking antibiotics.

2. The white vitamin C works better than the coloured one. The difference between the coloured and white vitamin C are the colourants and sweeteners used to manufacture the latter, ordinarily vitamin C does not have a sweet taste but sweeteners and colourants are incorporated into the active drug during compounding/manufacture to improve the taste and aesthetics, that's all.
The sour or sweet taste is not associated with efficacy.

3. Anti helminthics (worm expellers) should be taken after taking sugar or sugary food.
Some people say this is done to entice the worm to come out and eat the sugary food so that the drugs can act on it. This is one of the most hilarious stuff I've ever heard as a pharmacist, however it is not true, just take your worm expeller as prescribed by your doctor.

4. The more expensive the drug the more effective it is compared to another brand of the same drug. This is not always true, most times you are just buying a name or a brand.

5. The particular brand prescribed by the doctor is always the best, doctors are meant to prescribe generics so that the pharmacist will be at liberty to select the available brand and dispense to the patient, most times the patient may not have enough money to buy the particular brand prescribed and the proper thing to do would be to dispense an affordable but effective brand, there are some cases where some patients would be walking from Pharmacy to Pharmacy looking for a particular brand that was given to them in the hospital while there are several other brands that they can purchase that would do same thing.

6. Roadside drug sellers are more affordable than pharmacies and hospitals. This particular myth should be listed as one of the thousand ways to die in Nigeria, patronising quacks is a sure way to meet your maker quickly. In every pharmacy, there are usually up to 5 brands of the same drug and their prices are always different too, this is to cater for needs of everyone, wether high, medium or low class, when you get into the Pharmacy, tell the pharmacist the amount you have, the chances are high that he has the drug you want that you can afford at that price, apart from getting an affordable and effective medication, you also get a sound drug information. Also make it a habit to go to the hospital when you are not feeling fine, don't wait till it's too late, government hospitals are still cheap in Nigeria, just go on time.

7. Herbal medicines are safer than orthodox medicines. Some people forget that most orthodox drugs are sourced from natural sources, moreover a particular plant may contain thousands or millions of phytochemicals, some medicinal and some harmful.

You can state yours

Nice one. I have issue with 4 and 5. From microbial sensitivity, some brands are more sensitive to microbes than others. Hence, doctors prefer certain brands from clinical experience. Also, doctors factor socioeconomic factors of patients in selecting brands. I have seen pharmacists selecting expensive brands for patients because they feel such brands are not fast moving and could expire soon in their stores.

Nice one OP.
We see a lot in the pharmacy.
The funny thing is that patient will be dragging with you when you tell them some of these things. I don't know who is telling them some of these myths and they believe them more than the professionals. At some point I will be tired. Nigerians are difficult people.

Theunbothered:
I'm not reading all this nonsense, where is the scientific evidence for herbal medicine?

Covid-19 gives mild to no symptoms for most cases so claiming herbal medicines saved you from the disease is ridiculous.

It's always personal stories from patients who never went to the hospital for a proper or have mild illnesses that will be resolved with bed rest.

I also have personal testimonies about how they ruined patient's livers and pregnancies.

Partteen:
I beg to disagree totally on this assertion. I have taken herbal for 5 years now without any orthodox medications whatsoever and I have significant results. Organic herbal works on the source of the disease and clears it out completely. I caught covid and with my herbal supplements alone taken on empty stomach with just herbal tea and honey for energy. The next day I was at my duty post with just metallic feeling in my mouth. This was monday, by friday I lost my sense of smell and taste and that was why I knew it was covid. Subsequently with dizzy spells, I took another supplement that dialates the arteries for free flow of blood which also enhances oxygen flow.....that was the end of the symptoms completely.

The organic herbal nutrients work best on empty stomach. With recommendations for other health conditions, I have had several testimonies.

The brand is expensive not cheap ......gold is more valuable than its imitation. Take it or leave it.

Obituaries and testimonies abound of the harmful effects of herbal medicines, you'd rather find me dead than take them.
Keep overwhelming your liver in the name of herbal medicines, one thousand chemicals in on one concoction.

[quote author=Dozis post=106795101]Pls reply ur email DM.I need ur suggestion on one particular issue

Partteen:
I beg to disagree totally on this assertion. I have taken herbal for 5 years now without any orthodox medications whatsoever and I have significant results. Organic herbal works on the source of the disease and clears it out completely. I caught covid and with my herbal supplements alone taken on empty stomach with just herbal tea and honey for energy. The next day I was at my duty post with just metallic feeling in my mouth. This was monday, by friday I lost my sense of smell and taste and that was why I knew it was covid. Subsequently with dizzy spells, I took another supplement that dialates the arteries for free flow of blood which also enhances oxygen flow.....that was the end of the symptoms completely.

The organic herbal nutrients work best on empty stomach. With recommendations for other health conditions, I have had several testimonies.

The brand is expensive not cheap ......gold is more valuable than its imitation. Take it or leave it.

Like op said othordox medicines r also gotten from natural herbs, there is a possibility that d active chemical in a tab or injection might b found in ur agbo, I always tell people not to mix both.

[quote author=Iykman042 post=106795726][/quote]Okay

Taking alcohol before or after taking Fancida or any other malaria drug is deadly, how true is this.

Coconut should not be taken after taking drugs, how true is this

The bitterness of a drug is what kills the disease causing pathogens. The sweeter a drug is the less efficient it is, how true is this

Theunbothered:
Food poisoning is caused by contaminated food, you went on holiday and ate contaminated food, if you stay away from contaminated food you won't get food poisoning.

Herbal medicines are still trash.

True about the contaminated food. But in that particular instance, the herbal stuff was whqt stopped the pain.