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Please anyone that celebrates maulid those not has any evidence for that and engaging your self in that makes you are kufar

yahmohy27:
Not good to say it.
May Allah guide us and forgive us

OK

Lukgaf:
1. "Milad" (birthday) is not in Islamic shariah, it was later introduced by the Shia Fatimd in Egypt.

From the hadith of Jareer (RadiAllahu Anh) in Muslim:

The one who innovates a good innovation in Islam receives its reward and a reward similar to that of all those who practice with it after him without any lessening in their reward

Therefore the above point may not stand as a reason not to celebrate Mawlid Nabi.

Moreover, Caliph Umar (RA) said after he gathered the people to be led by one Imam during the Tarawih prayer: “Praised is this innovation”
(Sahih Bukhari).

Also it can easily be connected that the understanding of the hadith of Jareer in Muslim was demonstrated by Caliph Umar as being of generic application just as The Prophet (PBUH) has worded them in generic terms.

Lukgaf:
2. Historians differed about the date of birth of Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s). Some said it's Ramadan, some in Shaban and some in Rabiul awwal.

This is a logical defence of your position and it does not have any evidential value. Muslims stick with the most likely date in matters like this just like we do in Ramadan to attain the blessing of Laytul Qadr even though we do not know the actual date that it is going to fall on. The same effort has been applied by muslim scholars on the birth date of The Prophet (PBUH) and the likely date has at least been narrowed down to the first half of Rabiul awwal. The rest is simple arithmetic.

Lukgaf:
3. Birthday celebrations have pagan roots, celebrating birthday is not allowed at all in Islam.

This is just like saying all personal matters have pagan roots because, as we know, Islam does not enforce binding rules on people's personal matters, so it does not matter how you deal with your personal matters as far as you do not contravene any extant rules of Islam while going about sorting your personal matters. It may be interesting to know where this prohibition is declared as you have stated in the bolded.

Lukgaf:
4. The celebration is neither from sunnah nor Qur'an. Anything that is not part of these two can not be part of islam.

From the above hadith of Jareer in Muslim under point 1, provision can be seen for the occurrence of celebrating Milad Nabi provided it is derived based on sound Islamic legal principles. Some of those legal principles may be:

As posted previously:

talk2hb1:
And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds." (Quran: 21:106-107)

The Prophet (PBUH) was sent as the 'Mercy' for all creations.

Allahu ta'ala swore by the life of The Prophet (PBUH):

By your life, (O prophet) they are wandering blindly in their intoxication (misguidance)...
Quran 15 72 (AlSunnah.org)

Allahu ta'ala has not bestowed on anyone in the whole creation an honour and rank higher than that of Sayyidna Muhammad Mustafa (PBUH). This is the reason why Allahu ta'ala has never sworn by the life of any prophet or angel, while in this verse, He has sworn by the age and life of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) - which is the highest conceivable honour and deference accorded him.
- Ibn Abbas (RadiAllahu Anh) (Wisdom of the Qur'an)

Therefore his birth is certainly a major sign from Allahu ta'ala. Is his birth not even the highest among the major signs from Allahu ta'ala, if I may ask?

...whoever respects the signs of Allah, this surely is (the outcome) of the piety of hearts.
Qur'an, 22:32]

Are these not sound enough principles and legal grounds that can be advanced in favour of those who set aside a portion of their time to show reverance to this blessed day everytime that it comes once in a year, rather than closing our eyes entirely to it?

Are these grounds not enough reasons for a good innovation, as spelt out in the hadith of Jareer in Muslims above?

Lukgaf:
5. Prophet s.a.w.s said, "stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided caliphs, beware of newly invented matters, for every new matter is a Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading." (Trimidhi 2676).

You run the risk of being unable to explain in clear terms other hadiths that give room for a legal framework within which further solutions can be arrived at when new matters confront the religion if you insist on that this hadith implies that every religious matter has been solved already.

Some of the hadiths are:
Al-Harith ibn ‘Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent Mu’adh to Yemen and he said, “How will you judge?” Mu’adh said, “I will judge according to the Book of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Book of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, with the Sunnah of the messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, I will strive to form an opinion .” The Prophet said, “All praise is due to Allah, who has made suitable the messenger of the Messenger of Allah.”.

The hadith of Jareer in Muslim quoted above.

The saying of Caliph Umar (RA) quoted above.

One such matter is the use of microphone to reach a larger audience within salah. The Prophet (PBUH) did not do it. The Sahaba (RA) did not do it. The tabi'in (RA) and the taba-at-tabi'in (RA) did not do it. But alas here we are with it. Should we now drop use of microphone in worship?

Is it not OK to reason that this hadith you quoted above only establishes the bounds within which solutions must first be sought before an informed opinion can be made by a qualified scholar if the solution can not be readily established from the sources mentioned in the hadith, of course, with a certificate of authority from The Prophet (PBUH) or a history of such certifications, which is what the hadiths seem to be pointing to when considered altogether with other hadiths from a wholistic point of view rather than use one hadith to expunge the others when most of them have similar reliability statuses.

Lukgaf:
6. Allah says in surah Al Maidah,ayah 3. "This day, I have perfected your religion for you."

Everybody is in agreement with this. The religion comes with its rules and its legal frameworks and everything. But are our understandings of some of these references the same? No.

Lukgaf:
7. Celebrating 'Milaad' is the imitation of Christians and Jews. Jews celebrate the birthday of Uzair, while Christians celebrate the birthday of Isa (A.s).

8. Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s) said, " Whoever imitates a sect or people becomes one of them". (Abu Dawood).

9. Prophet Muhammod also said, "be different from Mushrikeen (the Unbelievers)." (Sahih muslim).

Are we not now imitating them even in worship by the adoption of microphone in Salat if I may ask? Didn't The Prophet (PBUH) show us how to be different when common events join us together with non-muslims? Such as the fasting of the 9th and 10th of Muharram or on even mundane matters such as dyeing of hair? Why can't same be applied to birthday celebrations?

Lukgaf:
10. Prophet Muhammad(s.a.w.s) again said, "Do not exaggerate in praising me".

This could be even an approval for celebrating Milad Nabi (PBUH) ensuring that whatever is sinful in the religion is not carried into such celebrations. Why can't we seek to remove the ills associated with mawlid celebrations rather than quash it altogether?

GreenCovering:
From the hadith of Jareer (RadiAllahu Anh) in Muslim:

The one who innovates a good innovation in Islam receives its reward and a reward similar to that of all those who practice with it after him without any lessening in their reward

Therefore the above point may not stand as a reason not to celebrate Mawlid Nabi.

Moreover, Caliph Umar (RA) said after he gathered the people to be led by one Imam during the Tarawih prayer: “Praised is this innovation”
(Sahih Bukhari).

Also it can easily be connected that the understanding of the hadith of Jareer in Muslim was demonstrated by Caliph Umar as being of generic application just as The Prophet (PBUH) has worded them in generic terms.



This is a logical defence of your position and it does not have any evidential value. Muslims stick with the most likely date in matters like this just like we do in Ramadan to attain the blessing of Laytul Qadr even though we do not know the actual date that it is going to fall on. The same effort has been applied by muslim scholars on the birth date of The Prophet (PBUH) and the likely date has at least been narrowed down to the first half of Rabiul awwal. The rest is simple arithmetic.



This is just like saying all personal matters have pagan roots because, as we know, Islam does not enforce binding rules on people's personal matters, so it does not matter how you deal with your personal matters as far as you do not contravene any extant rules of Islam while going about sorting your personal matters. It may be interesting to know where this prohibition is declared as you have stated in the bolded.



From the above hadith of Jareer in Muslim under point 1, provision can be seen for the occurrence of celebrating Milad Nabi provided it is derived based on sound Islamic legal principles. Some of those legal principles may be:

As posted previously:

The Prophet (PBUH) was sent as the 'Mercy' for all creations.

Allahu ta'ala swore by the life of The Prophet (PBUH):

By your life, (O prophet) they are wandering blindly in their intoxication (misguidance)...
Quran 15 72 (AlSunnah.org)

Allahu ta'ala has not bestowed on anyone in the whole creation an honour and rank higher than that of Sayyidna Muhammad Mustafa (PBUH). This is the reason why Allahu ta'ala has never sworn by the life of any prophet or angel, while in this verse, He has sworn by the age and life of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) - which is the highest conceivable honour and deference accorded him.
- Ibn Abbas (RadiAllahu Anh) (Wisdom of the Qur'an)

Therefore his birth is certainly a major sign from Allahu ta'ala. Is his birth not even the highest among the major signs of Allahu ta'ala, if I may ask?

...whoever respects the signs of Allah, this surely is (the outcome) of the piety of hearts.
Qur'an, 22:32]

Are these not sound enough principles and legal grounds that can be advanced in favour of those who set aside a portion of their time to show reverance to this blessed day everytime that it comes once in a year, rather than closing our eyes entirely to it?

Are these grounds not enough reasons for a good innovation, as spelt out in the hadith of Jareer in Muslims above?


You run the risk of being unable to explain in clear terms other hadiths that give room for a legal framework within which further solutions can be arrived at when new matters confront the religion if you insist on that this hadith implies that every religious matter has been solved already.

Some of the hadiths are:
Al-Harith ibn ‘Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent Mu’adh to Yemen and he said, “How will you judge?” Mu’adh said, “I will judge according to the Book of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Book of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, with the Sunnah of the messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, I will strive to form an opinion .” The Prophet said, “All praise is due to Allah, who has made suitable the messenger of the Messenger of Allah.”.

The hadith of Jareer in Muslim quoted above.

The saying of Caliph Umar (RA) quoted above.

One such matter is the use of microphone to reach a larger audience within salah. The Prophet (PBUH) did not do it. The Sahaba (RA) did not do it. The tabi'in (RA) and the taba-at-tabi'in (RA) did not do it. But alas here we are with it. Should we now drop use of microphone in worship?

Is it not OK to reason that this hadith you quoted above only establishes the bounds within which solutions must first be sought before an informed opinion can be made by a qualified scholar if the solution can not be readily established from the sources mentioned in the hadith, of course, with a certificate of authority from The Prophet (PBUH) or a history of such certifications, which is what the hadiths seem to be pointing to when considered altogether with other hadiths from a wholistic point of view rather than use one hadith to expunge the others when most of them have similar reliability statuses.


Everybody is in agreement with this. The religion comes with its rules and its legal frameworks and everything. But are our understandings of some of these references the same? No.


Are we not now imitating them even in worship by the adoption of microphone in Salat if I may ask? Didn't The Prophet (PBUH) show us how to be different when common events join us together with non-muslims? Such as the fasting of the 9th and 10th of Muharram or on even mundane matters such as dyeing of hair? Why can't same be applied to birthday celebrations?


This could be even an approval for celebrating Milad Nabi (PBUH) ensuring that whatever is sinful in the religion is not carried into such celebrations. Why can't we seek to remove the ills associated with mawlid celebrations rather than quash it altogether?

May Allah Be Please With you!

RightChannel:
You don't have to celebrate him, I don't see anything worthy of celebrating in the life of muhammad

You are already cursed. Stop looking for co-cursed fellow.

Lukgaf:
Below are some reasons why you should not join them in celebrating Mawlid Nabiyy culled from Omar Faroouq's Islamic page.

1. "Milad" (birthday) is not in Islamic shariah, it was later introduced by the Shia Fatimd in Egypt.

AntiChristian:
Alhamdulillah!

I no dey celebrate birthdays as Islam states!

You are saying nonsense without ingredient.

APCNig:
You are already cursed. Stop looking for co-cursed fellow.

Am I the one that instructed you not to celebrate your paedophile master?

Please take your annoyance, aggression to your leaders in Islam that instructs you not to celebrate your messenger

Muhammad: The Messenger Of Humility


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RP2XnkVp7s




Mawlid Mubarak

Happy Mawlid

APCNig:
You are saying nonsense without ingredient.

Of cos ignorance plus arrogance will turn sense in to nonsense.

Lukgaf:
It's the month of Rabbiul awwal and starting from next week, people across Nigeria will be celebrating Mawlid Nabiyy - some will celebrate it till after Ramadan. In essence, they have turned this into a celebration of some sort. Meanwhile, Our prophet when he was alive did not celebrate his day of birth nor was he celebrated by his Sahaba after his demise. So what's now our problem of doing what he and his companions did not do?

Below are some reasons why you should not join them in celebrating Mawlid Nabiyy culled from Omar Faroouq's Islamic page.

1. "Milad" (birthday) is not in Islamic shariah, it was later introduced by the Shia Fatimd in Egypt.

2. Historians differed about the date of birth of Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s). Some said it's Ramadan, some in Shaban and some in Rabiul awwal.

3. Birthday celebrations have pagan roots, celebrating birthday is not allowed at all in Islam.

4. The celebration is neither from sunnah nor Qur'an. Anything that is not part of these two can not be part of islam.

5. Prophet s.a.w.s said, "stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided caliphs, beware of newly invented matters, for every new matter is a Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading." (Trimidhi 2676).

6. Allah says in surah Al Maidah,ayah 3. "This day, I have perfected your religion for you." when Islam is perfect and complete, then who gave the authority to these people to introduce new concepts in Islam?

7. Celebrating 'Milaad' is the imitation of Christians and Jews. Jews celebrate the birthday of Uzair, while Christians celebrate the birthday of Isa (A.s).

8. Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s) said, " Whoever imitates a sect or people becomes one of them". (Abu Dawood).

9. Prophet Muhammod also said, "be different from Mushrikeen (the Unbelievers)." (Sahih muslim).

10. Prophet Muhammad(s.a.w.s) again said, "Do not exaggerate in praising me".
Wa Allahu Ahlam.

I Pray Allah increase our Eeman and guide us to the right path. Aameen

In addition, with respect to the above Hadith "The Prophet ( ﷺ ) said: "Whoever innovates into this affair of ours something that we have not commanded it is to be rejected"

The key concept here is innovation in acts of worship (bid'a — بدعة). One of the things that distinguish Islam from other religions is that we have the sources of Islam (the Qur'an and Sunnah) that tell us the best way to worship Allah.

We can't make up new ways to worship Allah. If we did, it would imply a few things that contradict some of the core beliefs of Islam:

1) That Islam is imperfect or incomplete. But the Qur'an says (part of Surat Al-Ma'idah [5:3]):

This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.

2) That we know better than the Prophet how to worship Allah or that the Prophet failed to teach Islam to us??

3) That the sahabah, tabi'een and tabi' tabi'een did not practice Islam as well as we do.
But the Prophet ( peace be upon him ) said: "The best generation is my generation, then those that follow them, then those that follow them."

Since all three propositions are clearly false, we must conclude that one should not make new ways to worship Allah.

Now that this is clear, let's take the example of the birthday of the Prophet.

Firstly, there is no evidence whatsoever that he celebrated his birthday. If it was good to celebrate his birthday, he would have done so himself.

Second, the generations after the Prophet did not celebrate it. If the Prophet muhammmad ( pbuh ) said that they are the best generation after his and they did not celebrate it, are we better than them?

Third, there's the practical issue: there is not consensus on the actual date — there is only scant evidence that it was actually on the 12th of Rabi' al Awwal — so we may actually be celebrating on the wrong day. We don't even have a range (like, say, laylatul qadr).

Anas ibn Maalik (ra) said: "The Prophet (saw) arrived in Madeenah while people were celebrating two particular festivals, so he asked: “What is (the significance of) these two days?” Some people replied: ‘They are days which we used to celebrate during the pre-Islamic era.’ So the Messenger replied: “Allaah has replaced them for you with two days which are better, the day of ‘Eed Al-Fitr and ‘Eed Al-Adh-haa”" [Abu Daawood].

This statement of Prophet Muhammad (saw) has made it clear that in Islam we only have two festivals, which are Eed Al-Fitr and Eed Al Adh-haa and there is no other festival apart from these two festivals for we Muslims to celebrate and NO MATTER what names we give to others festivals apart from Eed Al-Fitr and Eed Al Adhaa, it could be New Year of Gregorian calendar (1 January ) or New Year of Hijri calendar (1 Muharram ) or Christmas or Maulud Nabi or Easter or Chinese New Year, etc all these festivals are forbidden for Muslims to celebrate.

Allah says ”If anyone contends with the Prophet (saw) even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him and follows a path other than that of the believers, we shall leave him in the path he has chosen and land him in Hell, what an evil destination (Surah An-Nisa 115 ).

May Allah grant us the understanding of His religion.

Brother, u ought to be in Sambisa doing what you know best. Bloody Wahhabbist!

Sallalahu Alaiy Wasalaam