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Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Newton85: 12:59pm On Oct 25, 2021
mariahAngel:
Delusions as a result of too much fasting. sad
Not worse than how a certain bunch of credulous and deluded people believe that some mythical virgin-born dude took a flight into the sky without the aid of an aircraft - and also that this dude is still coming back to take them into the sky by floating on the sky with a trumpet in his hand.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Newton85: 1:04pm On Oct 25, 2021
The same pea-brained religious sheeple who believe in the existence of a mythical virgin-born character who flew into the sky on an invisible aircraft, are also mocking Cele people's messianic pareidolia of their founder? The irony.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Nobody: 1:10pm On Oct 25, 2021
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by bayelsaowei(m): 1:11pm On Oct 25, 2021
Iyaebe:
Tevbra
emi ooo...I dey oo...
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Nobody: 1:14pm On Oct 25, 2021
bayelsaowei:
emi ooo...I dey oo...
Doooo sir
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Blackdisciple(m): 1:27pm On Oct 25, 2021
When some one is hungry he feels he is seeing things sometimes
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by mariahAngel(f): 2:01pm On Oct 25, 2021
Newton85:
Not worse than how a certain bunch of credulous and deluded people believe that some mythical virgin-born dude took a flight into the sky without the aid of an aircraft - and also that this dude is still coming back to take them into the sky by floating on the sky with a trumpet in his hand.
If something as huge and heavy as a plane could fly, anything is possible.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Caseless: 2:41pm On Oct 25, 2021
This oshoffa hairline though.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by BestRicePlug28(f): 2:43pm On Oct 25, 2021
Newton85:
The same pea-brained religious sheeple who believe in the existence of a mythical virgin-born character who flew into the sky on an invisible aircraft, are also mocking Cele people's messianic pareidolia of their founder? The irony.
the day you have an encounter with Christ, is the day you will encounter truth, and mercy.. untill then, I understand your ignorance ( no offense)
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Boniwhite: 2:46pm On Oct 25, 2021
If am about to date a lady &found out she is cele member i call the whole thing off!
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by maridrug(m): 3:14pm On Oct 25, 2021
Iyaebe:
So funny, cele na church?
Wetin him be? Christianity is herself's problem.
A reason Islam is taking over the world.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by myhappyhome: 3:48pm On Oct 25, 2021
Iyaebe:
So funny, cele na church?
No hospital...is far..far better than that useless u re attending every Sunday..

Nonsense.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by CanadaCars(m): 4:07pm On Oct 25, 2021
KnownUnknown:
Before you criticize Cele, keep in mind that Christianity gained legitimacy through a similar episode.

After the death of the Western Emperor Constantius, there was a struggle for succession. Constantine was one of Constantius’ sons, and his father’s troops proclaimed him Emperor. But the rules of succession at the time were not clear. But, while Constantine was in Gaul with his father’s troops, there were other contenders for the throne in other parts of the empire. One of them was Maxentius, who had set himself up as ruler in Rome.

Constantine avoided an open challenge to Maxentius, but after repeated attempts by Maxentius to provoke Constantine, the latter marched toward Rome, defeating Maxentius in two battles on the plains of Italy. Finally, the two squared off on the banks of the Tiber River at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. It is here, according to Eusebius of Caesarea and Lactantius, that Constantine had his vision.

Before this, Constantine was considering converting to Christianity, but was undecided. Here is the account for students in Memoria Press’ Famous Men of Rome:

One day, while he was in front of his tent with his offi cers and troops around him, he had a vision of an enormous cross of fire in the heavens. On one side of the cross were the words, in the Greek language: “By this, conquer.” The words are sometimes given in the Latin form In hoc signo vinces, the translation of which is “By this sign thou shalt conquer.”

Constantine was astonished at the wonderful vision, and he gazed at it until it faded away. He could not understand what it meant and was greatly troubled. But that night he dreamed that Christ appeared to him in robes of dazzling white, bearing a cross in his hands and that he promised Constantine victory over his enemies if he would make the cross his standard.

Constantine now declared himself a Christian and had a standard made in the form of a cross with a banner attached to it bearing the initial letters of the name of Christ. This banner was called the Labarum, and it was afterwards the standard of the Roman emperors.

https://classicallatin.org/exordium/constantines-vision-of-the-cross-this-day-in-312-a-d/
How true is this story given that cross has always been a symbol for pagan worship even before Christ came. The bible urges us to stay away from idols and false worship. Why would Jesus Christ associate himself with a pagan symbol of worship?
SOMETHING TO PONDER OVER!!!!1111
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by lokho(m): 4:19pm On Oct 25, 2021
BABANGBALI:
Cele Na church? Modernised babalawo centres, na him you dey call church. Nonsense
Well you can't speak beyond your intelligence quotient. So I need not to talk much. People that are relevant in the society said more than you and they leaked the sand right in presence of Celestial church altar and now they're flourishing. So you're minor.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by BABANGBALI: 4:41pm On Oct 25, 2021
lokho:
Well you can't speak beyond your intelligence quotient. So I need not to talk much. People that are relevant in the society said more than you and they leaked the sand right in presence of Celestial church altar and now they're flourishing. So you're minor.
people seeking spiritual black powers you mean? grin grin tongue
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by feedthenation(m): 4:58pm On Oct 25, 2021
What is the significance of 'Luli' in the history of CCC?
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Newton85: 5:08pm On Oct 25, 2021
BestRicePlug28:
the day you have an encounter with Christ, is the day you will encounter truth, and mercy.. untill then, I understand your ignorance ( no offense)
I will never have an encounter with a mythical, imaginary character because I don't have psychosis.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Newton85: 5:09pm On Oct 25, 2021
mariahAngel:
If something as huge and heavy as a plane could fly, anything is possible.
Yeah, same way it's very possible for Cele people to see their founder in the sky, since anything is possible.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by mariahAngel(f): 5:13pm On Oct 25, 2021
Newton85:
Yeah, same way it's very possible for Cele people to see their founder in the sky, since anything is possible.
Touché! cheesy
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Newton85: 5:17pm On Oct 25, 2021
mariahAngel:
Touché! cheesy
Touche? Why then did you condemn them in the first place for seeing their founder in the sky?
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by mariahAngel(f): 5:25pm On Oct 25, 2021
Newton85:
Touche? Why then did you condemn them in the first place for seeing their founder in the sky?
Don't pretend you care. It is of no use, neither does it matter to you.
It is a spiritual matter, which you don't believe in, neither would you understand.

Only fight for causes you believe in.
Don't stir up argument for nothing. It is a waste of energy.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Newton85: 5:28pm On Oct 25, 2021
mariahAngel:
Don't pretend you care. It is of no use, neither does it matter to you.
It is a spiritual matter, which you don't believe in, neither would you understand.

Only fight for causes you believe in.
Don't stir up argument for nothing. It is a waste of energy.
You're right that I don't give a hoot about your religion. But Cele people are right that they saw their founder in the cloud. You don't like it, then go jump into the River Thames.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by mariahAngel(f): 5:34pm On Oct 25, 2021
Newton85:
You're right that I don't give a hoot about your religion. But Cele people are right that they saw their founder in the cloud. You don't like it, then go jump into the River Thames.
No, I won't.

Why are you guys(atheists) always angry so though? Especially over matters you claim not to "give a hoot" about? undecided
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by YourFavorite21(m): 5:37pm On Oct 25, 2021
Most of una Dey ment grin
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by sibexavi: 6:05pm On Oct 25, 2021
In those years, whatever it was that was seen would be taken or dispelled with spirit of discernment.

However, in today's setup, we would rather rely on perceptions and our biblical knowledge.

"Pentecostalistic" ideology will not make us view things spiritually but logically.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Afuye1(m): 7:03pm On Oct 25, 2021
Na aworo Dem see no be osofa���
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Afuye1(m): 7:03pm On Oct 25, 2021
Na aworo Dem see no be osofa...
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by OShepherd: 8:19pm On Oct 25, 2021
OShepherd:
whether the world likes it or not, the truth though sounds bitter to some denominational fanatics remains that Pa SBJ Oshoffa was truely GOD sent" only if adherents follow the originally laid down "Christianity" which he preached.....
In those years, whatever it was that was seen would be taken or dispelled with spirit of discernment. However, in today's setup, we would rather rely on perceptions and our biblical knowledge. We are very sure, the events that happened and that was recorded in our constitution e.g. Christ's visitation at Makoko, and Mary's appearance at the sea viz a viz the appearance of moon, sun and star at papa's burial, if these events happened today, with modern technology, we would have manipulated the facts therein.
Papa have been appearing to different people in the past, through different media....and unless there is one that is discernly gifted to dispel this, I do think there is need for caution.
If we agree papa is a Saint not because of who he is, but for the mandate he was given and he delivered, anything is possible.
The Catholic knows better in this circumstance, but modern day pentecostalistic ideology will not make us view things spiritually but logically.
This generation sef, I'm sure they'll never believe Christ if he came in this our generation�
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Newton85: 8:23pm On Oct 25, 2021
mariahAngel:
No, I won't.

Why are you guys(atheists) always angry so though? Especially over matters you claim not to "give a hoot" about? undecided
How exactly am I angry? You mocked your fellow Christians and I came to their aid so how am I angry?
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by BestRicePlug28(f): 8:29pm On Oct 25, 2021
I want to say something, allot of people who say anything they like about the cele church say this because they don't know, like I mean they haven't been to the church to know what really happenes there. I worship with dunamise but the first day I went to this church for child dedication, in Abuja ( the head quarters) honestly I love how they worship God. I realized the world had a misconception about them, I love their faith despite criticism, that alone can anger God's blessings even more upon them.

You cant fight for God, he fights for himself and defend all that trust in him.

Yes some white garment prophets do use juju, but what about our suit pastors?? I can't count how many back then that would preach in our house in the night will send me love text messages that the holy spirit told them I'm their wife. I had to report one to my elder sister and she told him never to come to our house again. Or our priests who celebrate masses in the morning and the evening he's with Catholic women's leader daughter professing love.


Let He who loves God, Love him in peace.
Re: Oshoffa In The Sky: Celestial Church Members Claim To See Their Founder (Video) by Papadoh(m): 8:06pm On Oct 26, 2021
I swear, this is why I'm not proud to be a Nigerian.
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