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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WispyEthereal: 7:52am On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
It depends on the periods you talk about, really. "Implements of agriculture, instruments of music, instruments of art", are relatively modern, and came into existence after sapiens stopped roaming, and settled down, which might have been after wars for the resource they settled by, if they did not discover the place first.
This order is very questionable, they settled after wars for resources or they warred for resources because they settled?
Even while humans were still hunter gatherers, they lived in caves and those were still settlements, they painted art of their daily activities, cycles of activities in these caves and war was never depicted, hunting was, rituals were, planting wasn't so that's how we know they were still hunter gatherers, the tools unearthed from this period all over the world shows they hunted, gathered, had ceremonies, made music, relaxed and entertained but didn't wage wars, I stand to be corrected
You "take the Zulus of south Africa as an example", but fail to recognise that waging war became "largely a ceremonial feat of manliness e.g how far a spear could be thrown", after, and because of their history of wagging wars. Its the same with the Olympics. Its modern form developed out of war.
The Zulu example is because of its peculiarity or lack of it, they threw spears, these spears by their design are made for hunting animals not people, if waging war as we understand it was a factor in the development of these spears, the necessity of waging war against a similarly intelligent creature determined to kill you would have resulted in different, better and more effective weapons period! Throwing spears the farthest was simply a method of conflict resolution among the Zulus, that we misinterprete it as war was simply us colouring it with our modern European originated bias that can't see why we shouldn't kill to take what we want. Across the world, many indigenous communities developed their own methods of conflict resolution without the need to evolve into open warfare or attrition because simply, before the idea was introduced to them, killing another human or groups of humans for resources simply wasn't thought of. In east Africa, the leaping of a massai is another test of manliness, back home In many opposing communities wrestling was another form of unarmed combat. Attrition and annihilation weren't always the go to for early humans and that is why when exposed to groups that had no scruples they stood no chance, same way American Indians of Greenland stood no chance against early seafaring Vikings from northern Europe, one group was warlike, the other wasn't
Wars (a relatively new phenomena, depending on definition), were generally fought over resources needed for survival, and not to the "point of waging wars of annihilation" to wipe others out, and did not need to be fought if resources abounded, which they did when population was lots lower than it has eventually become. Hence, fewer wars, one might think, and to be honest, it might be a bit difficult to find an intact obsidian tipped spear or arrow or bow, since it might just seem like a stick.
Spearheads and arrowheads are still being found till today and their dating paints a picture that warfare started at a much later stage though it gives no clue as to who was waging war on who to prove or disprove the theory of conquest of dark skinned peoples by light skinned peoples

Unfortunately, pre-humans didn't exactly supply us with historic records of wars, though in fact, they told tales about wars between 'the gods', as handed down to them and to us, so we are likely to assume wars weren't fought, but wars abound amongst some animals, and especially amongst those counted as our evolutionary cousins, so I would not agree that we Africans don't have traits for war, especially since our history shows we were as warrish as just about any race on earth.
societal conflicts are different from wars for resources, modern day inhabitants of delta state are said to have migrated from Bini upon the ascension of a particular oba whose rival they favoured, they migrated rather than warred and this is recent history, in most aboriginal communities, conflict resolution took many forms, ceremonial, ritual, migratory, banishment e.t.c in fact the spread of humans is very likely the avoidance of competition in overpopulated communes and the need to keep communal cohesion by banishing the offending party
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ginalz: 8:03am On Oct 29, 2021
Kokobilo87:
tha black people like prideoflincoln1 isa tha donkey jackass tha democrats isa play for tha fool everyday.
1:38am ina ah Texas and Lincoln isa ah dah onli ting on ya mind.
Mentally challenged homoerotic mule
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:23am On Oct 29, 2021
Ibime:
You should know you are dealing with a mad man who takes vaccine to protect himself, yet argues all day that vaccine has no efficacy.

Like I said, most of these alt-right loons are emotionally unhinged. Can't separate their emotions from their brain. His brain has taken action, yet his emotions are still arguing. That's why Trumpanzeeism is a mental illness.

On Tuesday, Rep. Dan Newhouse (R-Wash.) introduced a bill that would exempt workers from federal jab mandates if they could show proof of natural immunity. H.R. 5741 is referred to as the “Options Over Act.Terminations


This is the common sense way to approach the vaccine mandate. If someone has antibodies then why be forced to get the jab.What this bill does is open communication channels about the vaccines, the length of immunity provided . As opposed to the current case where federal employees must be jabbed and any company employees doing business with the govt requires jabs for a certain category that can be changed at will.
Big pharma will not like this. 43m or so have turned negative , that would be 1.72B $ less if this was the initial case.

Common sense solutions. Before taking another booster, your antibodies are checked.
I think this is a bill to enforce the theory of science .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:25am On Oct 29, 2021
WispyEthereal:
no source? My source is the lack of that specific form if vandalism anywhere else, defacing a statue by destruction of its nose, if you have a "sauce" please present it and debunk my conspiracy theory.
Also, on the earliest humans being all black irrespective of the location on the planet, check out cheddar man in England
that's is nonsense. you saw a pattern does not mean that what you saw has anything to do with with what you claim. you got to move away from your bias. I am not disputing black Egypt, I believe Egypt was a diverse society from a specific Dynasty and different Kings ruled including women.

the talk that Nose are cut off to hide their black heritage is a nonsense talk with no basis. truth is not only nose are cut off. Hands of status giving offering are cut off, hands of gods use to receive offering are cut off this is the left hand for giving, right hand for receiving. this is a pattern as well. Ears are cut off too of statues receiving prayers. I don't see any sense in saying nose can be used to identify their black heritage, same conspiracy nuts talk about about black lips being different from white lips but the lips are not really damaged.

you have not examined the statues, you have no understanding of egyptian beliefs and religion. there is no evidence of what you are claiming. till you give us a source you are spreading conspiracy theory
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 9:46am On Oct 29, 2021
WispyEthereal:
no source? My source is the lack of that specific form if vandalism anywhere else, defacing a statue by destruction of its nose, if you have a "sauce" please present it and debunk my conspiracy theory.
Also, on the earliest humans being all black irrespective of the location on the planet, check out cheddar man in England
Ya spread ya lie witha no evidence but ya want evidence to neutralize ya lie? Ya donkey yeah
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:50am On Oct 29, 2021
I'm limiting myself to just these two statements so as not to needlessly go on.

WispyEthereal:
societal conflicts are different from wars for resources,
Scale, is where they differ. If the conflict is between a neighbour or a family, we'll call it a conflict, and if between tribes, we might call it a war.

WispyEthereal:
Spearheads and arrowheads are still being found till today and their dating paints a picture that warfare started at a much later stage
You have a rather romantic view, I daresay. This is like saying the world was rosy and without wars before the invention of the gun and the canon.

Colonies of apes and monkeys fight wars without spears and arrows as did humans before the invention of spears and arrows, and in fact, spears and arrows developed out of the need to win wars just as the submarine and nuclear bomb was developed for the same purpose.

Wars (or conflict, if you prefer) were more likely between hunter gatherers precisely because of resources. A group might arrive at a source of water or food and find a weaker group their already. I wish they did negotiate to share, but that would require a belief that primitive humans were more intelligent than current humans, and there is no evidence to make me believe that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ginalz: 9:59am On Oct 29, 2021
Oi Kokobilo87 dah mule, ya isa ah good? Time isa 3:38am ina ah Texas yet ya homoerotic sef isa bees on ah heer.
Ya don "doing dah bitcoin" ya stewpid mule?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 10:01am On Oct 29, 2021
Ginalz:
Oi Kokobilo87 dah mule, ya isa ah good? Time isa 3:38am ina ah Texas yet ya homoerotic sef isa bees on ah heer.
Ya don "doing dah bitcoin" ya stewpid mule?
Ya donkey yeah, I isa not ah sleep. I isa good. How isa you ya donkey?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ginalz: 10:04am On Oct 29, 2021
Kokobilo87:
Ya donkey yeah, I isa not ah sleep. I isa good. How isa you ya donkey?
We isa ah knoe ya dant sleep ya stewpid mule. Mind ah telling us why ya isa on ah heer everi hour of dah day? Ya call ah pipo ah addicts bet ya isa luv dis place mah Dan ya mama.
Why if I isa ah ask?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:24am On Oct 29, 2021
From your own analysis, bas, covid vaccines kill. Can you therefore explain to us why you vaxxed yourself with poison?

basilico:

You almost had me here. The rates are
irrelevant. The total deaths of vaxxed is more
than unvaxxed.
If 10 out of 100 vaxxed succumb that will be a
rate of 10%.
If 2 out of 5 unvaxxed succumb the rate will
be 40%.
But in reality 10 vaxxed died, 2 unvaxxed died.


The ratio is worked out using the vaxxed deaths vs population of the vaxxed.
And the unvaxxed deaths vs unvaxxed population

Simple maths.
Total who died between Aug 20 to Sep 19 was from first table 1272 fully vaxed and 198 unvaxxed.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:32am On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
From your own analysis, bas, covid vaccines kill. Can you therefore explain to us why you vaxxed yourself with poison?
You are always trying to deflect. Those are casualties who died of COVID-19.
They did not die from the vaccine they died of COVID-19.
The data shows more people who died in that time period from the rona were vaccinated.
The authorities do not show who died from the adverse effects of the vaccine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 10:40am On Oct 29, 2021
basilico:
You are always trying to deflect. Those are casualties who died of COVID-19.
They did not die from the vaccine they died of COVID-19.
The data shows more people who died in that time period from the rona were vaccinated.
The authorities do not show who died from the adverse effects of the vaccine.
You isa know this now? Why isa call dishonest and liar by benaldo and DissTroy? Budaatum isa lie, lie you isa say something you isa not say and he isa deflect.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:47am On Oct 29, 2021
basilico:
You are always trying to deflect. Those are casualties who died of COVID-19.
They did not die from the vaccine they died of COVID-19.
The data shows more people who died in that time period from the rona were vaccinated.
The authorities do not show who died from the adverse effects of the vaccine.
If more vaccinated people died than unvaccinated, would you not be better off not being vaccinated?

Why are you vaccinated, bas?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 10:51am On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
If more vaccinated people died than unvaccinated, would you not be better off not being vaccinated?

Why are you vaccinated, bas?
Most of the people getting the vaccine are forced to do so in the past few months. I will take the vaccine soon but it's because I am being forced to take it. Basilico already told us he was forced to take it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 10:57am On Oct 29, 2021
benalvino3:
Most of the people getting the vaccine are forced to do so in the past few months. I will take the vaccine soon but it's because I am being forced to take it. Basilico already told us he was forced to take it.
You are forced to take a vaccine that you believe kills and you don't have the balls to refuse? Isn't that kind of dumb of you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:15am On Oct 29, 2021
benalvino3:
Most of the people getting the vaccine are forced to do so in the past few months. I will take the vaccine soon but it's because I am being forced to take it. Basilico already told us he was forced to take it.
Who forced you bro?

You dey work for RVSG?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:17am On Oct 29, 2021
basilico:
You are always trying to deflect. Those are casualties who died of COVID-19.
They did not die from the vaccine they died of COVID-19.
The data shows more people who died in that time period from the rona were vaccinated.
The authorities do not show who died from the adverse effects of the vaccine.
Once again. . . .

Ibime:
You should know you are dealing with a mad man who takes vaccine to protect himself, yet argues all day that vaccine has no efficacy.

Like I said, most of these alt-right loons are emotionally unhinged. Can't separate their emotions from their brain. His brain has taken action, yet his emotions are still arguing. That's why Trumpanzeeism is a mental illness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by DissTroy(m): 12:03pm On Oct 29, 2021
WispyEthereal:
no source? My source is the lack of that specific form if vandalism anywhere else, defacing a statue by destruction of its nose, if you have a "sauce" please present it and debunk my conspiracy theory.
Also, on the earliest humans being all black irrespective of the location on the planet, check out cheddar man in England
Dude, evolution happens and it continues to happen daily and exponentially over thousands of years.

The first set of humans (if we'd call them that) weren't exactly blacks as we are today.

We are Homo sapiens. You'd always used Neanderthals as the connecting dots between the evolutionary chain but that is wrong. 60 years ago, you would have been assumed as right but not today.

Humans even as Homo erectus (ape-like) were already dispersing to different parts of the world. After Neanderthals, the next phase is Homo sapiens.
The next phase was actually Homo longi : http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/homo-longi-09804.html .

Ironically, Homo longi evidence was discovered in China is dated back to 146,000 years ago. Humans continued to evolve to Homo sapiens. Before we became Homo sapiens. So what's your bases for claiming ancient Europe was dominated by blacks.

The humans who built the Egyptian empire were the Homo Sapiens evolving from some of the Homo longi who remained in Africa. This took many more tens of thousands of years.

The residents of Ancient Europe and China and other places look nothing like the African residents.

I don't argue facts I've not researched for a long time. I don't argue then research about it. Don't put the cart before the horse.

If you know little about a topic, take a backseat and don't insult those knowledgeable about it with misinformation.

Egypt was the main center of recorded and evidential Homo sapiens civilisation but that doesn't mean others in every other part of the world were us - blacks. The evolution to Homo sapien didn't happen at in same time in every place.

You are doing exactly what we accuse the whites of doing to African history by whitifying it - 'Africanising' historical facts.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:03pm On Oct 29, 2021
Ibime:
You should know you are dealing with a mad man who takes vaccine to protect himself, yet argues all day that vaccine has no efficacy.

Like I said, most of these alt-right loons are emotionally unhinged. Can't separate their emotions from their brain. His brain has taken action, yet his emotions are still arguing. That's why Trumpanzeeism is a mental illness.
Can you imagine! It's like their drumpthfp who secretly gets vaccinated but tells magas vaccines are poison. He himself does not want to die but does not care if his followers die.

Stupid hypocrites.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 12:12pm On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
You isa orced to take a vaccine that you believe kills and you don't have the balls to refuse? Isn't that kind of dumb of you?
Well, you are projecting false premise on him agaib he said the vaccine has killed people and while he was saying so, he said the numbers are so low and vast majority that takes it do not die from it.
He said don't want to take the vaccine because he don't have to take it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:18pm On Oct 29, 2021
Kokobilo87:
Well, you are projecting false premise on him agaib I said the vaccine has killed people and while I was saying so, I said the numbers are so low and vast majority that takes it do not die from it.

I don't want to take the vaccine because I don't have to take it. But it's seems people are being forced to take it and that's the only reason why I will be taking it.
And who are you exactly? Because I do not recall having this conversation with you specifically. If you are talking for bas, his argument is, more vaccinated died from covid than unvaccinated, which by any sort of reckoning makes the vaccine a poison.

I'll ask you therefore, why you accept being forced to take what you think will kill you? Don't you have a choice in the matter?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:20pm On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
Can you imagine! It's like their drumpthfp who secretly gets vaccinated but tells magas vaccines are poison. He himself does not want to die but does not care if his followers die.

Stupid hypocrites.
Please show me where I said vaccines should not be taken.
I Have only wanted the vax craziness to end, there are people who have natural immunity, children are almost sure to survive and the true data is sexed up.And drugs to treat the virus have been vilified, doctors fired, pharmacist refused to dispense them and hospitals refuse to administer prescribed medication. Efforts to deride human medicine as horse dewormers with lawyers aka supreme court judges ruling that an intubated patient should not receive a prescribed drug because Fauci and Co. There is a wholesome effort to only promote vaccines.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:27pm On Oct 29, 2021
basilico:
Please show me where I said vaccines should not be taken.
I Have only wanted the vax craziness to end,
Please explain what this "vax craziness" is, and why you are antivax despite vaxxing yourself, because you sound like one who would vaxx while blocking the entrance so others can't vaxx.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 12:40pm On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
And who are you exactly? Because I do not recall having this conversation with you specifically. If you are talking for bas, his argument is, more vaccinated died from covid than unvaccinated, which by any sort of reckoning makes the vaccine a poison.

I'll ask you therefore, why you accept being forced to take what you think will kill you? Don't you have a choice in the matter?
Yo nigger shut ya raggidy ass. I can be who I wanna be you Bleep face. I own you, we Texans own your sorry little life. Ask my boy Ibime, he recognized. grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by vaxx: 12:44pm On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
Please explain what this "vax craziness" is, and why you are antivax despite vaxxing yourself, because you sound like one who would vaxx while blocking the entrance so others can't vaxx.
you should have removed one of the x. Oga buda
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:57pm On Oct 29, 2021
vaxx:
you should have removed one of the x. Oga buda
And not get your attention?

Lol.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:58pm On Oct 29, 2021
Kokobilo87:
Yo nig

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:23pm On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
Please explain what this "vax craziness" is, and why you are antivax despite vaxxing yourself, because you sound like one who would vaxx while blocking the entrance so others can't vaxx.
Im vaxxed and you are vexing me.
Vast world has gone vax crazy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:25pm On Oct 29, 2021
basilico:
Im vaxxed ....
Why are you vaxxed with a vax you claim kills?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WispyEthereal: 1:33pm On Oct 29, 2021
Kokobilo87:
Ya spread ya lie witha no evidence but ya want evidence to neutralize ya lie? Ya donkey yeah
I know you're simple minded but you don't have to add being daft to that to boot undecided
Firstly, that the faces of Egyptian statues were vandalised is not in dispute by anyone here or is it? I mean vandalised as in deliberately destroyed by humans not weathered down and crumbled by age and elements of nature, destroyed by actual people and not long ago, in the last 4 centuries, before Europeans started going to and through post conquest Egypt, there were Babylonian conquerors, Assyrian and Persian satraps, Hellenic Ptolemys, Roman imperialists, Byzantine imperialists, Arabian jihadists, mamluk rulers and Ottoman imperialists and all Egyptians feared about their ancient artefacts in this long period spanning millennia was grave robbery for buried treasures of ancient egyptian dead by these foreign invaders, not defacing of statues except probably for prohibition of idol worship under Muslim rulers, the defacing of statues came in recent history when Europeans assumed the role of researching Egypt by themselves and created the discipline called Egyptology to explain what they claimed to find in Egypt to suit their narrative.
When Napoleon invaded Egypt was when the nose of the sphinx at Giza was destroyed by his troops.

If benalvino3 is to be even believed that statues were desecrated across the world for nefarious purposes based on what the monarchs valued most then in Egypt's case it would be the bodies of the Pharaohs and the wealth they accumulated to ease themselves into the afterlife that will be targeted not their noses for what they held most valuable they kept close to their sarcophagus at death.

Secondly, if what I stated above is not in dispute, then where else were the noses of ancient statues thousands of years old destroyed while the rest of the statue was left intact?
And also what was the peculiarity of the Egyptian statues noses that wasn't present elsewhere?
If you can answer these questions maybe you can cure your own doubt and stop making silly accusations.

Lastly, where and what is the lie I told here? I want your own personal answer not regurgitating someone else's
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by WispyEthereal: 1:51pm On Oct 29, 2021
benalvino3:
that's is nonsense. you saw a pattern does not mean that what you saw has anything to do with with what you claim. you got to move away from your bias. I am not disputing black Egypt, I believe Egypt was a diverse society from a specific Dynasty and different Kings ruled including women.

the talk that Nose are cut off to hide their black heritage is a nonsense talk with no basis. truth is not only nose are cut off. Hands of status giving offering are cut off, hands of gods use to receive offering are cut off this is the left hand for giving, right hand for receiving. this is a pattern as well. Ears are cut off too of statues receiving prayers. I don't see any sense in saying nose can be used to identify their black heritage, same conspiracy nuts talk about about black lips being different from white lips but the lips are not really damaged.

you have not examined the statues, you have no understanding of egyptian beliefs and religion. there is no evidence of what you are claiming. till you give us a source you are spreading conspiracy theory
I saw a pattern specific to a location and nowhere else, a pattern limited to a certain period with the significant associated factor of influx of Europeans post slavery, to the rest of the ancient world, it never mattered what race these Pharaohs were, to these Europeans it did, now I asked you to replicate this elsewhere, you didn't and that is my and your evidence, the lack of any similar evidence elsewhere, Egyptian statues of chimaeras with animal faces, the gods, the ones who receive offerings who should be vandalised according to your theory still have their noses intact so what the hell are you saying? I don't remember making any mentions of lips, I was specific on the noses. And on ears being cut of, I won't dispute that because I haven't researched that, rather I am open to a convincing argument, if your argument is that gods have their hands cut of so as not to receive offerings and ears cut of so as not to hear prayers, then what is the explanation of having noses removed from statues of humans or faces of chimaeras with human faces? Is it to prevent them from sniffing vandals?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Kokobilo87: 2:13pm On Oct 29, 2021
budaatum:
Why are you vaxxed with a vax you claim kills?
Yo, your premise is a false premise you donkey yeah. Say the truth ya digg?
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