₦airaland Forum

EricBraven:
I don't think he can see beyond his nose

BlackBaron:
The American Bradley has the same form factor with a BMP. Uparmored, RWS and all the other shebang.

If R& was a thing for Nigeria, we could have effective 'battle taxis' without breaking the bank.

Stormtrooper11:
Exactly, Nigeria does not lack money. Nigeria lacks leadership, accountability, management, transparency, quality followership and criticism.
Nigeria is killing itself slowly and painfully.

kabe1:
Nigeria lacks money to properly fund our military. It costs billions of dollars to procurement equipment buy spares and train soldiers.

Nigerian lacks money and also lacks monetary discipline.

Stormtrooper11:
Anytime peeps here say Nigeria lacks money, it angers me. Wallahi, Nigeria doesn't lack money. We're very bad financial managers. There is money in Nigeria.

That pic of the captured APCs are disheartening. It gives chills about the incapability of the military hierarchy.

Stormtrooper11:
Nigeria loses billions of dollars yearly. Nigerian politicians loot billions of dollars yearly, but we make it look like there isn't money available at all, but there is alotta money to be looted. Very bad.

Stormtrooper11:
Exactly. The fv101, fv103 and fv107 are already good platforms if utilized appropriately and properly.
For people clamouring for IFVs, i tell you what, those IFVs ain't gonna win you this war in no time. That's a misperception of things on ground. We got a whole lotta Vickers mk. 3 MBTs and T 55s prior to the purchase of T 72m1 and VT4 tanks. Those older MBTs would've ended this war quickly if they were utilized appropriately. We all saw what Late. Lt-Col Abu Ali did with the 272 tank battalion's T 72s. It takes determination and commitment to the cause, to win a war of attrition.

Stormtrooper11:
Nigeria loses billions of dollars yearly. Nigerian politicians loot billions of dollars yearly, but we make it look like there isn't money available at all, but there is alotta money to be looted. Very bad.

Odunayaw:
If I ask you how there's money in Nigeria now you'd point to the polithieving class stealing scarce resources

kabe1:
Nigerian politicians do not loot billions of dollars yearly.

This is the sort of ignorant comment that fuels insecurity in Nigeria.

What is the national budget of Nigeria?

How much goes to capital projects and recurrent expenditure.

Stormtrooper11:
There is money in Nigeria. We got resources, we got the ability to make the money and build the economy. There is no way that a country with 200 million people, produces a large amount of oil, which is a major resource, produces alotta agricultural products be poor. Nigeria is not poor. Nigeria is extremely mismanaged. We might be broke in some instances, cause having economic crisis once in a while is usual in economies around the world is not unusual, but Nigeria ain't poor, Nigerians are poor because we are mismanaged and extremely corrupt. I hope you understand what I mean.

kabe1:
Nigerian politicians do not loot billions of dollars yearly.

This is the sort of ignorant comment that fuels insecurity in Nigeria.

What is the national budget of Nigeria?

How much goes to capital projects and recurrent expenditure.

Odunayaw:
Almost sounds like Monday motivation speech.

"Nigerian lacks money and also lacks monetary discipline. - Kabe1, 2021

That's the reality

Stormtrooper11:
The problem is, anytime we talk about Nigeria’s problems, we tend to overlook the roots. The feds are tryna act like they can fix everything which is impossible. Do you have any idea how much goes around unaccounted for at the LGAs At the road unions Local taxes?? Markets??
Wallahi, there is money in Nigeria.

Odunayaw:
And how much is that?

Money is different from MONEY

Stormtrooper11:
There is money in Nigeria. We got resources, we got the ability to make the money and build the economy. There is no way that a country with 200 million people, produces a large amount of oil, which is a major resource, produces alotta agricultural products be poor.

Stormtrooper11:
Exactly. The fv101, fv103 and fv107 are already good platforms if utilized appropriately and properly.
For people clamouring for IFVs, i tell you what, those IFVs ain't gonna win you this war in no time. That's a misperception of things on ground. We got a whole lotta Vickers mk. 3 MBTs and T 55s prior to the purchase of T 72m1 and VT4 tanks. Those older MBTs would've ended this war quickly if they were utilized appropriately. We all saw what Late. Lt-Col Abu Ali did with the 272 tank battalion's T 72s. It takes determination and commitment to the cause, to win a war of attrition.

kabe1:
IFVs are a far more effective system than a Tank in COIN operations.

Modern IFVs carry a 30mm, ATGM and still transports 9 fully kitted troops. They are faster than a Tank, easily maintainable than a Tank. They also cover larger areas, and can be used for reconnaissance.

War is not won by determination, but by employing the right strategies, tactics with the right mix of equipment.

A very good and recent example is the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

There is no substitute for employing the right mix of equipment.

RiceProducers:
Five STAR comment. Very good points. Thank you

kabe1:
Do you know that Norway, a country of 5 million people, a country that is geographically smaller than Nigeria produces more crude oil than Nigeria?

You really need to look at things in the context you're comparing.

Nigeria is a middle, lower income country with a population of over 200 million people.

Stormtrooper11:
Nigeria's greatest resource ain't oil, ain't gold, ain't Iron ore neither cocoa nor cassava and rice. Our greatest resource is our people. That population alone, gives us the capability to eclipse anyone. We can leverage on our population and it will become a great capability or we let it become our liability. Education is key to our development and success.

kabe1:
We are talking about financial resources available to procure military equipment.

Yet you're giving me inspirational quotes.

Which country on earth wey no get people?

JOSCOFELIX:
20 kill you there. Lies on lies if a news media want to give out information give it out with credibility. A mixture of civil defence and vigilant was ambush when advancing to a communitty and they were ambush using light patrol bomb before opening fire on them. The back vehicle containing vigilant was total damage killing 7 vigilant and 4 was killed while the rest japa. While rounding it up to 20

Stormtrooper11:
Negative. The platforms in a COIN context are on par because the IFV gets to transport troops, which is an advantage to tanks. Mind you the merkava mk. 4 can carry troops too, so let's not generalise this tank stuff. Let's be only on the Nigerian context.

Nigerian tanks carry 125mm weaponry, 12.7mm, 7.62 mm, 9k119 refleks ATGMs. Yeah, they are faster than tanks but not all. Vt4 tanks go for 70km/hr and cover 500 km distance without external fuel. They are both good for recon considering the thermal sights on the platform.

Determination is key. When I said determination, i covered everything. Determination translates to will, will translates to been dedicated to employ the right services and equipments to achieve your goals.

Whyem15:
If an IFV were to get stuck in the same manner as this APC, would it not be abandoned by troops? Would the bandits not have all the time they need to burn it down? When that happens, will you then start clamoring for the deployment of tanks to kill individual bandits? When the opportunity arises for the bandits and they get to burn a tank, what other platform would you advise the military go for?

What particular armor do these bandits operate that 12.7mm or 14.5mm won't penetrate? These guys practically move around with motorcycles.

Even US wasn't moving around with only IFVs in Afghanistan. Despite many r as nkls getting damaged in Iraq, humvees were still being deployed.
There is no platform the Saudis and the Emiratis haven't lost in Yemen yet they haven't stopped deploying APCs.

The bandits are everywhere at the same time and ambushes are very easy for them to execute, our poorly built bases are also contributing to the losses we are incurring.

Stormtrooper11:
I hope so. Many of the blunders we committed in this war, have been committed already in the Civil war. For example, the Abagana Ambush and Oguta lake debacle. We keep repeating our mistakes. I just hope, swears, we can only hope that we will improve.

Stormtrooper11:
There is money in Nigeria. We got resources, we got the ability to make the money and build the economy. There is no way that a country with 200 million people, produces a large amount of oil, which is a major resource, produces alotta agricultural products be poor. Nigeria is not poor. Nigeria is extremely mismanaged. We might be broke in some instances, cause having economic crisis once in a while is usual in economies around the world is not unusual, but Nigeria ain't poor, Nigerians are poor because we are mismanaged and extremely corrupt. I hope you understand what I mean.

jpphilips:
Stick to what you know, Humvees come in variants, all the variants deployed to the frontline are amoured while those running logistics in secured areas are not.
US will not be stup!d to use Hilux or any soft skin to dominate a 12.7mm threat environment, never! perhaps in the 50's not anymore.

Whyem15:
Where in my entire write up did I mention "hilux or soft skins"? Or could you point to anywhere I insinuated hilux and other soft skins are okay?
The APC the whole discussion is about can comfortably take hits from 12.7 mm

jpphilips:
Even US wasn't moving around with only IFVs in Afghanistan. Despite many r as nkls getting damaged in Iraq, humvees were still being deployed.

Who said this and why?