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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JOSCOFELIX: 3:46pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
DOSF unit. 1. Afsf. 2. Special strike group. 3.72 mbt/sf 4. 401sf: sister to 402sf bama. 5. Special intelligent strike team. They are up to 10 . Have no knowledge/ Intel about the rest. All this unit were not ban neither disban the former military adminstration withdraw them from the battlefield. 72mst/sf : early this year when 11solider was killed in beune state the defence media was first to release report before the Nigeria army media.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Rich4god(m): 3:49pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: Hmmmmmm.... I just pray this offensive will be sustained. Aftwr rooting out BH, let them go and finish off all those bloody bandits in NW. Kudos to General Irabor. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 5:12pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Whyem15: Your intent is in you, your presentation is what we read, if both are in disagreement then learn how to write better!! 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by keep2silent: 5:24pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Whyem15: Haba why do you keep repeating this misinformation? Type 89 APC has different variants, we don't know the variant NA bought. Some can only take 12.7mm hits on frontal arc, but only stop AK-47 rifle 7.62mm hits on both sides and rear. Its best variant that withstand 12.7mm all round is only comfortable if Bandit or ISWAP fires DShK from long distance, anything closer than 300 feet to that armour will fully penetrate and kill all our soldiers inside your magical Type 89 APC that you are praising like its the perfect equipment for Nigerian Army to succeed Abeg our teacher please no teach us nonsense oooo , 5 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 6:00pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
keep2silent: Please provide link, all the sources have seen seem to claim it can withstand 12.7mm 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by avidleo: 6:17pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Warri Itakpe not Borrowed AKK is contractor financed Bonny - Bodo was intially 50-50 (FGN/NLNG) but is now 100% NLNG jpphilips: 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by keep2silent: 6:30pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Whyem15: Come on man, stop manipulating events saying Mowag APC got stuck in gutter thats why bandits were able to burn it and same can happen to IFV. Is that army driver eye blind to drive off road to stuck his APC inside gutter, na mumu he be? September 2021 Zamfara true reality is more like, in heat of combat that NA MOWAG APC armour was penetrated by bullets from Bandit PKM, DShK likely killed driver, no more control so APC rolled into gutter, so Mowag APC was already defeated tactically by evil Bandits before they later set it on fire, not the childish story you conjured my dear friend. Look at same type of MOWAG 6x6 one captured neatly parked under tree shade, second burned in March 2017 was safely on neat road but defeated in combat before it was burned, or is it stuck in gutter before it was burned like your fake news twisting of battle events? I used to think you were realistic before, but you seem like you will rather spread bad ideas than take good correction. This is why Nigerians with smart sense do not celebrate ordinary APC procurement 6 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayow: 7:09pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
For the Chairborne Generals 16 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 7:12pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZDqKmimDKY Great example of an upgrade. Nigeria unfortunately lacks lots of industries that could make this a reality. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by keep2silent: 7:14pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Whyem15: Source copied - Type 85 was for export market, its variant in service with PLA is designated Type 89. Basic variant Type 85 APC armour protection against 7.62mm caliber weapon systems is provided all round. http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product983.html Please Bruz I no want waste of my time for people asking me to provide web link proof as if its my job, people should google themselves. Ask OEM like Proforce, vehicle armour rating depends on enemy distance, obliquity angle, projectile FMJ ball/WC, etc. Your problem is you dont know practical realities of equipment you are arguing about, your wrong ideas can cause army defeat because you depend on internet info. No vex o if I dont reply again, no be quarrel Bruz, na to not waste my time doing whats not appreciated. I dont care if Nigerian Army keep using weak APC to do IFV role till AD 2050 . Everybody here pls have a sweet weekend dear friends, I go away to dey keep2silent. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you: 7:23pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
BlackBaron: The Upgraded BMP 2 looks promising , would have been nice to know the price of the upgrade |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 8:07pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Nemesis4you: https://aw.my.games/en/news/general/development-bvp-sakal Report on it, apparently failed trials. Currently offered by Excalibur. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by RiceProducers: 8:14pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
keep2silent: Soldiers don't stay inside APCs to fight. Why are you building a structure on your ignorance. It is a transport vehicle into battle and there are other vehicles designed to cover APCs. You need to think up the reality of the scenario where Boko Haram gun trucks fire 12.75mm at 300m. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you: 8:32pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
BlackBaron: Thats the problem with many upgrades - shortfall in some specs , very difficult to achieve all desired specs , one needs to make a choice , cant have all eg increase armour by sacrificing amphibious capability 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ocelot2006(m): 10:18pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
JOSCOFELIX: What of 707 Special Forces Battalion? Army SF units are a bit confusing. Btw, what's our version of a Ranger battalion? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ocelot2006(m): 10:19pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:37pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11:What a joke 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:51pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 12:05am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Recently read somewhere that one of the Canadian companies that used to supply key components of Turkish drone programs recently filed for bankruptcy after attempting to present their case to Canadian global affairs to lift the embargo placed on turkey several times without succeeding. Nigerian government could hire some of their workers to serve as advisors in the Nigerian drone program, it might speed things up a bit. https://www.dailysabah.com/business/defense/canadian-defense-firm-goes-bankrupt-over-embargo-on-turkey https://www.defenseworld.net/news/30674/Canadian_Supplier_to_Turkey_s_Bayraktar_Drones_Goes_Bankrupt_Following_Embargo 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 12:20am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Every information on ISWAP that I have been seeing in the last few days seem to point towards the group preparing to fight to the last in the next offensive. It will be of great help if the government can get Chad and Cameroon to launch offensives from their own sides at the same time, it will be extremely difficult for the enemy to fight on multiple fronts. Also, NAF should be working with intelligence communities to go after the enemy's important weapons. Soften them up a lot before the offensive begins then they should continue providing CAS. Lastly, the mistakes of former offensives should not be made, the military should already have plans to consolidate on whatever would be achieved in this offensive to prevent the enemy from ever recovering. 4 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 5:44am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Whyem15:They are going to rely a lot on IED, suicide bombers and ambushes. Nigerian Army needs to be prepare for this. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by mekussa(m): 7:27am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Whyem15: Emphasis on inmproved close air support, communications and a means of IFF for the ground troops. ISWAP will most definitely use stolen,captured or smuggled military uniforms and military vehicles that can lay their hands on to try and increase sneak attacks and ambushes. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DaddyGoo: 7:42am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Odunayow: 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 7:57am On Oct 31, 2021 |
DubaiLandLord1: A beautiful "joke" |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 8:11am On Oct 31, 2021 |
jpphilips: Almost every year, we hear about billions of dollars missing either in the NNPC or CBN. Nigeria isn't poor, neither is it extremely rich for now. What we make from crude oil alone yearly is alot. We don't even do quality auditing, truth is, Nigeria doesn't even know how much it makes, cos peeps steals much of it. We saw how auditing turned out in the NDDC. How the MD was fainting while questioned. Mind you, that 1 billion dollars, if i inject it continously into the education or health care sector for 2 straight years, those sectors will be upgraded by atleast 100 %. True. Algeria has less security threats. I understand, we've never done that. How do you expect a highly mismanaged and corrupt country to do that? I know we've increased spending on capital expenditure under this administration,but we still have same root issues. Nigeria problem is not money, it is mismanagement and corruption. That's my point. True, almost all major projects funding comes from loans,we have avenues and ways to generate money in Nigeria. If the mismanagement, misplaced priorities and corruption continues, we'll keep claiming we don't have money while having peeps who are creating a fortune for themselves from the country's wealth. Nigeria is a mismanaged country, not a poor one. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 8:15am On Oct 31, 2021 |
jpphilips:. In terms of Casualties, number of vehicles involved, nope Abagana haven't been repeated. In terms of pattern of movement and attack. Yes, it have been repeated alot. Jam packing alot of military vehicles in a straight line moving through enemy territory on a narrow road, as if you're going for a field exercise. There alot of ambushes that we lost alot of troops in a single occasion. The Nigerian Army is either not learning or adapting extremely slow. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 8:35am On Oct 31, 2021 |
kabe1: Like I said earlier, when I meant determination, I meant will to win the war. Will to purchase the right equipment and use the right equipment and people to win the war. True. Exactly, what I'm implying. Like I said, earlier, stop generalising. 8 rounds per minute is low to you?? That's the rate of fire of the Nigerian vt4 tank. Lol. A 550 mm protected vehicle needs peeps to protect it. Mind you, tanks don't operate alone. Tanks operates in groups of 2s and 4s just like an aircraft and wingman. Tanks don't operate on the field alone, anywhere in the world, even in Nigeria. If you see a lone MBT in combat, then alot must have went wrong. War is expensive. Ammunition is expensive. I'll agree partly to this. Tanks ain't easily maintained neither IFVs but there are alot of tanks that have flexible maintenance, example is the merkava mk. 4. They aren't. VT4 tank goes at 70km/hr. Peeps say 67km/hr,bmp terminator goes at 60km/hr. You see?? Bradley IFV range is 400km. Vt4 range is 500km without external drums Not in all cases, like for example a tank in maiduguri already, doesn't need a vehicle to deploy it to mallam fatori. I talked about you generalizing, I'm strictly talking about MBTs here. You keep mentioning tanks. Do you know that the fv101, fv103 are light tanks and recon vehicles at that?? Nope. The prices are on par. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 8:50am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Let's romance otokar the way we Romance Norinco. The otokar cobra 2 and Arma ifv are nice platforms. 6 Likes
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 8:52am On Oct 31, 2021 |
BlackBaron: Great video . Maybe, in the nearest future, we'll be able to do this. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 9:35am On Oct 31, 2021 |
jpphilips: Correction: Algeria defined its threats more broadly than what you've offered. They defined their threats logically in terms of both time and space and then set out to rebuild and equip their military accordingly. 1) GIA and AIS (AQIM, GSPC and others were later splinters from these two) were defined as immediate internal threats to be obliterated; 2) Morocco was defined as a mid-term external threat that had to be deterred in the short term and in the long term, defeated in combat should it come to that; 3) France and NATO in general (especially after what transpired in Libya) were defined as long term external threats which could not be defeated but could be deterred by structuring the Algerian military such that war would entail such a heavy price as to be unpalatable. Personal opinion: I actually rank the Algerians above the Egyptians because Cairo's economy is so poor that without its sugar daddies in the Gulf, it would not be able to sustain total war on its own. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 9:54am On Oct 31, 2021 |
avidleo: When your contractor is financing your project, are you not borrowing from the contractor? When you split capital investment with NLNG, are you funding it 100% isnt that assisted expenditure? Don't you know NLNG will later deduct that N60b from Nigeria's annual profits?? You think its charity? Isn't that a loan? Reading isn't difficult!! If you are smart, you should give me a list of $10b expenditure Nigeria financed in a fiscal year, then we hope its dedicated to the military. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 10:09am On Oct 31, 2021 |
Stormtrooper11: In that case you are smarter than World bank that placed Nigeria on IDA, ask yourself why you are on that list first before selling your opinion albeit baseless. You Africans should first learn how to think before stringing facts together. If you can't think, your fact is useless. Now if you want to think, ask yourself what makes a country wealthy? grab that list then juxtappse it with Nigeria, I just told you Nigeria cannot afford a $10b Capital expenditure in a pop, you are typing a sermon to tell me what you think instead of getting me that $10b annual expenditure. 3 Likes |
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