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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 10:20am On Oct 31, 2021
Stormtrooper11:
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In terms of Casualties, number of vehicles involved, nope Abagana haven't been repeated. In terms of pattern of movement and attack. Yes, it have been repeated alot. Jam packing alot of military vehicles in a straight line moving through enemy territory on a narrow road, as if you're going for a field exercise. There alot of ambushes that we lost alot of troops in a single occasion. The Nigerian Army is either not learning or adapting extremely slow.

Abagana didn't happen because Murtala Mohammed jampacked his convoy, every sound historian knows there were two tactical errors that led to Abagana.
If your history is sound, you would figure it out!!
Those two tactical errors must be in place before you reference Abagana.
Like I said, Abagana has not repeated because those tactical errors haven't repeated in a mission with an Abagana outcome.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 10:33am On Oct 31, 2021
Lurker4Long:


Correction: Algeria defined its threats more broadly than what you've offered.
They defined their threats logically in terms of both time and space and then set out to rebuild and equip their military accordingly.

1) GIA and AIS (AQIM, GSPC and others were later splinters from these two) were defined as immediate internal threats to be obliterated;

2) Morocco was defined as a mid-term external threat that had to be deterred in the short term and in the long term, defeated in combat should it come to that;

3) France and NATO in general (especially after what transpired in Libya) were defined as long term external threats which could not be defeated but could be deterred by structuring the Algerian military such that war would entail such a heavy price as to be unpalatable.

Personal opinion: I actually rank the Algerians above the Egyptians because Cairo's economy is so poor that without its sugar daddies in the Gulf, it would not be able to sustain total war on its own.

I merely discussed what Algeria did, I didn't explain why, the comparison between Algeria & Nigeria should strictly focus on their counter insurgency ops, reason I mentioned AQIM alone.
The other Objectives are of no concern to Nigeria.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DubaiLandLord3: 11:06am On Oct 31, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LH8cWyLb0

Omo this IPOB thing go be strictly urban warfare o. See as e be like say na the Troubles grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 11:38am On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LH8cWyLb0

Omo this IPOB thing go be strictly urban warfare o. See as e be like say na the Troubles grin


And with this comes the realization that civilian casualties will be high and the economic cost will be enormous if things get worse than it currently is.
Already, many people are canceling plans to visit the region, many are moving out, moving goods has become more difficult and security forces are yet to fully commit to combating hostilities in the region.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JackWolfskin: 12:09pm On Oct 31, 2021
Lurker4Long:


Correction: Algeria defined its threats more broadly than what you've offered.
They defined their threats logically in terms of both time and space and then set out to rebuild and equip their military accordingly.

1) GIA and AIS (AQIM, GSPC and others were later splinters from these two) were defined as immediate internal threats to be obliterated;

2) Morocco was defined as a mid-term external threat that had to be deterred in the short term and in the long term, defeated in combat should it come to that;

3) France and NATO in general (especially after what transpired in Libya) were defined as long term external threats which could not be defeated but could be deterred by structuring the Algerian military such that war would entail such a heavy price as to be unpalatable.

Personal opinion: I actually rank the Algerians above the Egyptians because Cairo's economy is so poor that without its sugar daddies in the Gulf, it would not be able to sustain total war on its own.

Algeria's template is admired.

Btw, Egypt's biggest sugar daddy is Uncle Sam

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by JackWolfskin: 12:11pm On Oct 31, 2021
jpphilips:


In that case you are smarter than World bank that placed Nigeria on IDA, ask yourself why you are on that list first before selling your opinion albeit baseless.

You Africans should first learn how to think before stringing facts together.
If you can't think, your fact is useless.

Now if you want to think, ask yourself what makes a country wealthy? grab that list then juxtappse it with Nigeria, I just told you Nigeria cannot afford a $10b Capital expenditure in a pop, you are typing a sermon to tell me what you think instead of getting me that $10b annual expenditure.


"We Africans?"

No vex, but... Your father!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 12:16pm On Oct 31, 2021
JackWolfskin:


"We Africans?"

No vex, but... Your father!

I was prolly too dumb to reply that. tongue "you Africans". Like, tf

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by slimthugchimee2(m): 12:25pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LH8cWyLb0

Omo this IPOB thing go be strictly urban warfare o. See as e be like say na the Troubles grin

Negodi
Just look what this foolish Ipob people has turned my region into

Both them and their leader will rot in hell or prison wherever they are

These are sights I only thought I will be seeing in north but guess.
But someone who has never witnessed war in his entire life will sit in his furnished apartment yelling war

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by yoged(m): 1:18pm On Oct 31, 2021
Bama town at night .
Copied from Muazu Alhaji Misiya Facebook page

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by EricBraven: 1:59pm On Oct 31, 2021
JackWolfskin:


"We Africans?"

No vex, but... Your father!
X3

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 2:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LH8cWyLb0

Omo this IPOB thing go be strictly urban warfare o. See as e be like say na the Troubles grin
Pure madness undecided carrying out such attack on such convoy with civilians around is wickedness.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 2:02pm On Oct 31, 2021
JackWolfskin:


Algeria's template is admired.

Btw, Egypt's biggest sugar daddy is Uncle Sam

I disregard the US military aid as the conditions attached mean that assets procured can only be utilised with Uncle Sam's approval. That's why alms from Gulf have been splurged on non-US materiel.

Even when US aid is included, Egypt's main p.imp is now the Gulf countries:

--Total US economic & military aid to Egypt (1946 to 2020) - USD 81 billion [source: American Chamber of Commerce in Egypt];

--Total Gulf economic & military aid to Egypt (2011 to 2020) - USD 92 billion [source: Central Bank of Egypt].

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 3:37pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LH8cWyLb0

Omo this IPOB thing go be strictly urban warfare o. See as e be like say na the Troubles grin

I looks like there were SBS Operators on ground.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 3:43pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-LH8cWyLb0

Omo this IPOB thing go be strictly urban warfare o. See as e be like say na the Troubles grin

There should be incentives (monetary rewards or otherwise) by the government leading to the capture or identification of these gun men especially when they show their faces on videos.

They've caused havoc for far too long and are no less than deranged terrorists/fanatics.

Stormtrooper11:


True, almost all major projects funding comes from loans,we have avenues and ways to generate money in Nigeria. If the mismanagement, misplaced priorities and corruption continues, we'll keep claiming we don't have money while having peeps who are creating a fortune for themselves from the country's wealth. Nigeria is a mismanaged country, not a poor one.

Misconception is that Nigeria is wealthy. For one, its population is oversized but not as productive.

Look at our education or health budget for example. Even before releasing funds (some of which gets stolen), it is barely enough to adequately cover a quarter of the states.

All stolen funds recovered have barely made a dent on our infrastructural needs.

Example :Germany's health budget for 2019 was 410 billion Euros which is our entire Federal budget for the next 7+ years.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 4:21pm On Oct 31, 2021
Eons intelligence reporting that Dogo Gide was recently killed by his own men.
I do not know whether it is true or not, only reporting what I read.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 4:44pm On Oct 31, 2021
BlackBaron:


For one, its population is oversized but not as productive.

Look at our education or health budget for example. Even before releasing funds (some of which gets stolen), it is barely enough to adequately cover a quarter of the states.

All stolen funds recovered have barely made a dent on our infrastructural needs.

Example :Germany's health budget for 2019 was 410 billion Euros which is our entire Federal budget for the next 7+ years.

I'm not sure the issue is mainly one of productivity and waste. For the size of your economy, it seems to me that your tax collection is in serious need of repair.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DaddyGoo: 4:45pm On Oct 31, 2021
I hear that Dogo Gide is down.

Overheard mess gist so not 100%
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 4:47pm On Oct 31, 2021
DaddyGoo:
I hear that Dogo Gide is down.

Overheard mess gist so not 100%
One By one, dem Don dey go
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DaddyGoo: 4:49pm On Oct 31, 2021
Lurker4Long:


I'm not sure the issue is mainly one of productivity and waste. For the size of your economy, it seems to me that your tax collection is in serious need of repair.

Louder please...........it's sad that Nigerians, and I speak as one, on the giving and receiving end of the tax system don't accept that they are under taxed and under managing received taxes respectively.

This is the result of a long term trust erosion between the two, that only an honest and sincere government can fix.

Rant over.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nemesis4you: 4:58pm On Oct 31, 2021
Lurker4Long:


I disregard the US military aid as the conditions attached mean that assets procured can only be utilised with Uncle Sam's approval. That's why alms from Gulf have been splurged on non-US materiel.

Even when US aid is included, Egypt's main p.imp is now the Gulf countries:

--Total US economic & military aid to Egypt (1946 to 2020) - USD 81 billion [source: American Chamber of Commerce in Egypt];

--Total Gulf economic & military aid to Egypt (2011 to 2020) - USD 92 billion [source: Central Bank of Egypt].


Just saying

Egypt needs the backing as much as required

If currently government falls and M brotherhood comes to power than , Afghanistan will look like picnic compared to what will unfold in and around northern Africa and beyond

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by cutievik: 5:17pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:
I want the military to kill Bello Turji and Dogo Gide. I'm giving them five day or ELSE!!

Dogo Gide is dead.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DubaiLandLord3: 5:22pm On Oct 31, 2021
cutievik:


Dogo Gide is dead.


Goodnews
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by cutievik: 5:25pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:


Goodnews

So na Bello Turaji remain.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 6:08pm On Oct 31, 2021
Lurker4Long:


I'm not sure the issue is mainly one of productivity and waste. For the size of your economy, it seems to me that your tax collection is in serious need of repair.
Inadequate infrastructure means cost of production is quite high. Few multinationals are willing to stake a gamble in environments like that.

Even though there's concerted efforts for efficient taxing, a tax base consisting of a large informal workers/economy would struggle to generate adequate funds.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 6:13pm On Oct 31, 2021
BlackBaron:

Inadequate infrastructure means cost of production is quite high. Few multinationals are unwilling to stake a gamble in environments like that.

Even though there's concerted efforts for efficient taxing, a tax base consisting of a large informal workers/economy would struggle to generate adequate funds.
Lovely engagement on topics right up my alley. Would love to continue the discussion, but I fear we'll end up derailing this thread.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 6:57pm On Oct 31, 2021
It is looking like SDB 3 will be commissioned soon. CNS visited the president concerning the commissioning of a boat built locally. I doubt it can be gunboats

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by DubaiLandLord3: 7:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
cutievik:


So na Bello Turaji remain.

No more negotiation, only killing
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tutudesz: 8:46pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:
I want the military to kill Bello Turji and Dogo Gide. I'm giving them five day or ELSE!!
The tongue has the power of life and death shocked

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:57pm On Oct 31, 2021
ISIS Releases Video Of 12-year-old Terrorist Executing Two Nigerian Soldiers

In the 17-minute long video, the soldiers were shot dead by the insurgent with AK-47.

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), also known as Daesh (Arabic) has released a video showing a 12-year-old member of ISWAP (Islamic State's West Africa Province), the breakaway Boko Haram faction executing two Nigerian soldiers.

In the 17-minute long video, the soldiers were shot dead by the insurgent with his AK-47.


The video which was called "Makers of Epic Battles" also covered other attacks from ISWAP's spring campaign in Borno and Yobe states in 2021.

Analysing the footage, Tomasz Rolbiecki, a researcher on Islamic State’s attacks worldwide described the execution as “awful.”

“There are no words to describe how awful it is,” Rolbiecki posted on Twitter.

He continued, “In general, the video is mainly covering the attacks from ISWAP's spring campaign in northern Borno and Yobe, although there are also clips from southeastern and southwestern parts of Borno state.

“Most of the footage had been published in photo reports long before this video was released. Daesh has been doing it for years. However, there is also some new material.

“ISWAP confirms the militants are using an APC (seems like a Mowag Piranha variant) for the first time in a long time, if not ever. News of them using APCs and MRAPs have been circulating for a while now, but we have not seen a confirmation until now.

“The attack on Gajiram is next. It is difficult to say which one is it since there were several in the last year, and the footage was not released previously in any form.

“Then ISWAP shows an IED attack which must have happened in Mallam Fatori (I do not have the exact date). A video shot by one of the soldiers attacked by that IED is used by the militants to show the aftermath. That is a technique sometimes used by Daesh.

“After that, a clip from Geidam, in Yobe State, is shown. This was the attack from 23 April, in which ISWAP briefly established control over the town. We have seen most of that footage previously as well.”

http://saharareporters.com/2021/10/31/isis-releases-video-12-year-old-terrorist-executing-two-nigerian-soldiers
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by yoged(m): 9:20pm On Oct 31, 2021
TEARS!!! ISIS Releases Video Of 12-year-old Terrorist Executing Two Nigerian Soldiers � | #IgbereTV

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:54pm On Oct 31, 2021
yoged:
TEARS!!! ISIS Releases Video Of 12-year-old Terrorist Executing Two Nigerian Soldiers � | #IgbereTV

80% of ISWAP fighters are between 15-28 years.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 10:12pm On Oct 31, 2021
DubaiLandLord3:


Goodnews

cheesy grin e be lyk say Army dey respect your ultimatums oo. Give another one tongue

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