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Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:27pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
So what did science say about those?
Show me the texts and the scientific laws that wrote about them.

You speak and say science is speaking.
Frauds!
Fraud. Stop loading questions and provide evidence for your fraudulent claims.

Channel your useless questions to your Bible and pastors. Ask them to provide evidence for those claims instead of bringing silly questions here.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:28pm On Oct 31, 2021
kingxsamz:
Lol, baseless rants.
The picture highlights the failures of a god and the victories of man. Simple and short. Whatever questions you're asking has nothing to do with it. Try again. cheesy
On the contrary, the picture highlights what humans made by God can do with the knowledge and abilities given to them by God.

Genesis 1 captures it vividly.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:28pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Lol!
Show me what science said or keep quiet forever.
Frauds!
I cant show you science of a man pathing the sea because that's fraud... It didn't happen.

Only happened in the fraudulent book of the Bible
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:29pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Fraud. Stop loading questions and provide evidence for your fraudulent claims.

Channel your useless questions to your Bible and pastors. Ask them to provide evidence for those claims instead of bringing silly questions here.
I know deep down in my heart that you don’t have anything said by science.

You will FRAUDULENTLY speak and say it is science.
Frauds
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by kingxsamz(m): 10:30pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
On the contrary, the picture highlights what humans made by God can do with the knowledge and abilities given to them by God.

Genesis 1 captures it vividly.
So you agree that your god makes mistakes? grin grin grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:30pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
I know deep down in my heart that you don’t have anything said by science.

You will FRAUDULENTLY speak and say it is science.
Frauds
Just provide evidence for all the fraud in the Bible.

Why is that difficult to do if they aren't fraud?
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:33pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
I cant show you science of a man pathing the sea because that's fraud... It didn't happen.

Only happened in the fraudulent book of the Bible
Miracles happened.
Miracles happen even today.
Miracles will happen tomorrow still.
Even in surgical theatres, miracles happen.
Doctors will even testify how they got divine intervention when they had lost hope.

Of course science has no tool to investigate the divine.

And when people like you get frustrated over your inability to use natural methods to fathom out supernatural phenomena, they get angry and throw tantrums and then say”

“Thus says science. This is not possible by the limited tools we have. We don’t know how but we just know it is not possible”.

Hahahaha
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:35pm On Oct 31, 2021
kingxsamz:
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So you agree that your god makes mistakes? grin grin grin
The sovereign God doesn’t make mistakes.

I thought you were going to talk about how the humans YOU created were able to resolve the issue.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:37pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
I cant show you science of a man pathing the sea because that's fraud... It didn't happen.

Only happened in the fraudulent book of the Bible
Yes man. Keep it coming.

“Thus says science. Miracles don’t happen. Why? We are unable to confirm them with the limited tools we have at the moment. Therefore they do not happen. “

Frauds speaking in the name of science.
Lol
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:37pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Miracles happened.
Miracles happen even today.
Miracles will happen tomorrow still.
Even in surgical theatres, miracles happen.
Doctors will even testify how they got divine intervention when they had lost hope.

Of course science has no tool to investigate the divine.

And when people like you get frustrated over your inability to use natural methods to fathom out supernatural phenomena, they get angry and throw tantrums and then say”

“Thus says science. This is not possible by the limited tools we have. We don’t know how but we just know it is not possible”.

Hahahaha
And the scientific evidence is miracle grin
Fraud cheesy
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:38pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Yes man. Keep it coming.

“Thus says science. Miracles don’t happen. Why? We are unable to confirm them with the limited tools we have at the moment. Therefore they do not happen. “

Frauds speaking in the name of science.
Lol
Your scientific evidence is miracle.

Just tell them it’s miracle so they will stop asking questions

Fraudulent religion grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:39pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
And the scientific evidence is miracle grin
Fraud cheesy
You see your life? You don’t even understand the simple thing I said there.
Lol
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:41pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Your scientific evidence is miracle.

Just tell them it’s miracle so they will stop asking questions

Fraudulent religion grin
Hahaha!
Frauds hiding behind science to defend their worldview.
Science that is a denominator for all humans of differing worldviews?

I pity you guys!
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:41pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
You see your life? You don’t even understand the simple thing I said there.
Lol
We don’t understand it hence it’s miracle, we will not find out because we are dumb.

That’s how you sound cheesy
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:42pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Hahaha!
Frauds hiding behind science to defend their worldview.
Science that is a denominator for all humans of differing worldviews?

I pity you guys!
Its true because the Bible said it’s true. We don’t have to question it because we are zombies

cheesy
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:43pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
We don’t understand it hence it’s miracle, we will not find out because we are dumb.

That’s how you sound cheesy
Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:45pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.
[Billions and Billions of Demons - JANUARY 9, 1997 ISSUE]
Richard C. Lewontin
Poor guy has moved from scientific evidence to its miracle.

That’s what religion does, it makes one stupid. You call whatever you don’t understand miracles. When you are asked, you find a way of telling the person not to question it. Poor guy
Fraud cheesy
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by kingxsamz(m): 10:47pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
The sovereign God doesn’t make mistakes.

I thought you were going to talk about how the humans YOU created were able to resolve the issue.
So why are humans doing this then? I mean your god literally created the kid that way, isn't it? grin

Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:50pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious, if you are not ready to provide measurable evidence for all those nonsense stories in the Bible, you better keep your fairytales to yourself because there are some of us still alive who will never believe that a man who is denser than water can float on without an evidence.

We no be Mumu like you wey Dey believe every jargons written by Bronze Age herders who didn’t even know that sun is a star.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:51pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Its true because the Bible said it’s true. We don’t have to question it because we are zombies

cheesy
By the time I bring in the Bible, I will finish you all with your warped reasoning.

For now we have a stand-off on fraudulent claims of people like you who lie and say what science has not said.

Secondly, you have been struggling with supernatural phenomena ( your obsession with the snake and the Red Sea miracles). This simply bothers on materialism and supernatural claims.

As long as you think all phenomena in reality can be reduced to the 5 senses, you are okay. But we know that reality goes beyond what the empirical data can pick up. So many phenomena fall outside empiricism and thus quash your idea and worldview.

Of course if you shift from materialism, your stronghold is shattered. So you doggedly stand there against reason and logic.

That’s the summary of your problem.

Any day you agree there are super-natural phenomena beyond our empirical analysis, then you start asking questions how miracles happen.

I say nature is not all there is to existence.
You say nature is all there is to existence.
If you block off your mind on super-nature, how will you investigate it? So you simply drew conclusions even before the evidences come in.

That’s your problem. Unfortunately I can’t help you.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:52pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
By the time I bring in the Bible, I will finish you all with your warped reasoning.

For now we have a stand-off on fraudulent claims of people like you who lie and say what science has not said.

Secondly, you have been struggling with supernatural phenomena ( your obsession with the snake and the Red Sea miracles). This simply bothers on materialism and supernatural claims.

As long as you think all phenomena in reality can be reduced to the 5 senses, you are okay. But we know that reality goes beyond what the empirical data can pick up. So many phenomena fall outside empiricism and thus quash your idea and worldview.

Of course if you shift from materialism, your stronghold is shattered. So you doggedly stand there against reason and logic.

That’s the summary of your problem.

Any day you agree there are super-natural phenomena beyond our empirical analysis, then you start asking questions how miracles happen.

I say nature is not all there is to existence.
You say nature is all there is to existence.
If you block off your mind on super-nature, how will you investigate it? So you simply drew conclusions even before the evidences come in.

That’s your problem. Unfortunately I can’t help you.
Supernatural only exist in your religious head.
Your are stupid and that’s why you believe stuffs that has not evidence.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:53pm On Oct 31, 2021
kingxsamz:
So why are humans doing this then? I mean your god literally created the kid that way, isn't it? grin
My God made the humans and asked humans to dominate the earth.
That’s the Genesis of science.
Man created in the image of God can utilize the God-given abilities to dominate the earth.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:53pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Supernatural only exist in your religious head.
Your are stupid and that’s why you believe stuffs that has not evidence.
Block head. Too heavy for you to download.
Run along
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:55pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Nothingserious, if you are not ready to provide measurable evidence for all those nonsense stories in the Bible, you better keep your fairytales to yourself because there are some of us still alive who will never believe that a man who is denser than water can float on without an evidence.

We no be Mumu like you wey Dey believe every jargons written by Bronze Age herders who didn’t even know that sun is a star.
Even if a miracle happens to you today, rather than acknowledge it, you would say “ I think my mind tricks me”.

Book of Romans 1 covers you precisely.
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:55pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Block head. Too heavy for you to download.
Run along
Evidence too heavy for you to provide.
Why should I not believe that a chicken laid the earth ahead your nonsense claims?
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:56pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Even if a miracle happens to you today, rather than acknowledge it, you would say “ I think my mind tricks me”.

Book of Romans 1 covers you precisely.
Why have you suddenly moved from scientific evidence to miracle?

Poor indoctrinated guy grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:57pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Poor guy has moved from scientific evidence to its miracle.

That’s what religion does, it makes one stupid. You call whatever you don’t understand miracles. When you are asked, you find a way of telling the person not to question it. Poor guy
Fraud cheesy
Hahaha!
You didn’t understand the quote.
Let me help you a bit. It’s a skeptic that made that quote. Lol. It wasn’t a Christian.
So you can calm down and read it and respond like a good boy. Okay
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 10:58pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Hahaha!
You didn’t understand the quote.
Let me help you a bit. It’s a skeptic that made that quote. Lol. It wasn’t a Christian.
So you can calm down and read it and respond like a good boy. Okay
When you don’t have evidence for the nonsense claims, you called it miracles.

That’s fraud cheesy
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 10:59pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
Why have you suddenly moved from scientific evidence to miracle?

Poor indoctrinated guy grin
You also add lies to your delusions?

I haven’t even made any scientific claims. And you are already lying against me just like you have been lying against science by claiming it said something when you were the one actually speaking and wishing science could just say something.

Science will not because it is incapacitated to investigate the divine.

Hahahaha
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Nothingserious: 11:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
Workch:
When you don’t have evidence for the nonsense claims, you called it miracles.

That’s fraud cheesy
Go back to basic comprehension and learn to read to understand before responding.
You have been lying or maybe willful strawmanning. Which is it?
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 11:01pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
You also add lies to your delusions?

I haven’t even made any scientific claims. And you are already lying against me just like you have been lying against science by claiming it said something when you were the one actually speaking and wishing science could just say something.

Science will not because it is incapacitated to investigate the divine.

Hahahaha
How did Mary conceive without fertilization?
Miralce
How did moses path the sea?
Miracle.
How did a serpent speak to Eve?
Miracle
How did Jesus walk on water?
Miracle.


Gbognonise answer that doesn’t work. It’s fraud grin
Re: Finally I'm Free from religion by Workch: 11:03pm On Oct 31, 2021
Nothingserious:
Go back to basic comprehension and learn to read to understand before responding.
You have been lying or maybe willful strawmanning. Which is it?
Help me comprehend by providing just one evidence.

I dare you to provide just one evidence, just one. Anything that can be tested.


Fraudulent people with wayo miracle claims
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