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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by uglymods: 10:58am On Nov 03, 2021
Ekemeze:
But There's another subject called HISTORY? so for peace to reign, the subject History, should have been modified to include racism during the early days of America. just my two cents.

well, I see no reason why Republicans should been celebrating this much. the win margin is too low, and the state can flip back to blue, all it'll takes is just a slight mistake from Glenn.
And I think this election won't decide the outcome of 2024, because Joe Biden has got 3 years more to make things right.
they teach racism and the civil movement. CRT is not history
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 11:08am On Nov 03, 2021
Ekemeze:
But There's another subject called HISTORY? so for peace to reign, the subject History, should have been modified to include racism during the early days of America. just my two cents.

well, I see no reason why Republicans should been celebrating this much. the win margin is too low, and the state can flip back to blue, all it'll takes is just a slight mistake from Glenn.
And I think this election won't decide the outcome of 2024, because Joe Biden has got 3 years more to make things right.
If democrats deliver they will win.

If they don't 2022 will be a bloodbath for them the democrats should get things done and they will win

Nobody should blame progressives most of the policies they are fighting for is what you see in Europe, Australia and New Zealand including developing nations.

There was a poll conducted earlier on people in Europe and Australia they don't fancy American style of politics and democracy.

The policies progressives want is gotten in those countries and they are not really bad dems just need to act and deliver..

I find it dangerous that republicans are campaigning on lies,fears and non policies yet they are winning.Does the average American know what they want or if they have a problem with democrats not fulfiling campaign promises they vote republican again to mess the system up
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by uglymods: 11:10am On Nov 03, 2021
Texas House District 118 that was flipped to red...Biden won that district by +14
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by uglymods: 11:16am On Nov 03, 2021
Evangelynn:
If democrats deliver they will win.

If they don't 2022 will be a bloodbath for them the democrats should get things done and they will win

Nobody should blame progressives most of the policies they are fighting for is what you see in Europe, Australia and New Zealand including developing nations.

There was a poll conducted earlier on people in Europe and Australia they don't fancy American style of politics and democracy.

The policies progressives want is gotten in those countries and they are not really bad dems just need to act and deliver..

I find it dangerous that republicans are campaigning on lies,fears and non policies yet they are winning.Does the average American know what they want or if they have a problem with democrats not fulfiling campaign promises they vote republican again to mess the system up
fool, what of umudike where you isa from in aba?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 12:11pm On Nov 03, 2021
edi287:
Biden needs to wake up man. Dems need to decide which issues to go left on and which ones to be in the middle.
Deal with the CRT nonsense as soon as possible. It's not all doom and gloom but it's definitely a wake up call.
The problem isn't really CRT or anything else but service delivery in terms of policies and promises, people won't care about things like CRT once you are delivering good policies.

Republicans pander to their craziest base and win, Democrats can so same only if they deliver but they are basically obstructing themselves in Congress, from infrastructure bill to voters rights bill, everything is still hanging there, it's affecting their supporters some might not even feel need to vote.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:20pm On Nov 03, 2021
Evangelynn:
It is the basic truth some voters are not intelligent enough to feed themselves with the right information.


Anyway let's see the policies Youngkin uses to govern Virginia cheesy
When they voted for Democrats by 10 points 12months ago they were intelligent but today no longer intelligent
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 12:25pm On Nov 03, 2021
raumdeuter:
When they voted for Democrats by 10 points 12months ago they were intelligent but today no longer intelligent
Yes undecided undecided undecided
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:27pm On Nov 03, 2021
Ekemeze:
cheesy

Just thinking out loud, now that republican candidate is the winner, are republican not gonna say it was fraudulent? You know? The 3:00am stealing lol
Like Democrats and Stacy Abrams claimed it was fraudulent in Georgia
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:33pm On Nov 03, 2021
Ekemeze:
But There's another subject called HISTORY? so for peace to reign, the subject History, should have been modified to include racism during the early days of America. just my two cents.

well, I see no reason why Republicans should been celebrating this much. the win margin is too low, and the state can flip back to blue, all it'll takes is just a slight mistake from Glenn.
And I think this election won't decide the outcome of 2024, because Joe Biden has got 3 years more to make things right.
You think a state that voted Biden by 10 points just 12months ago and changed shouldn't celebrate or New Jersey that Biden won by 16points that is now tied
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:37pm On Nov 03, 2021
Evangelynn:
If democrats deliver they will win.

If they don't 2022 will be a bloodbath for them the democrats should get things done and they will win

Nobody should blame progressives most of the policies they are fighting for is what you see in Europe, Australia and New Zealand including developing nations.

There was a poll conducted earlier on people in Europe and Australia they don't fancy American style of politics and democracy.

The policies progressives want is gotten in those countries and they are not really bad dems just need to act and deliver..

I find it dangerous that republicans are campaigning on lies,fears and non policies yet they are winning.Does the average American know what they want or if they have a problem with democrats not fulfiling campaign promises they vote republican again to mess the system up
America don't want to be Europe Australia New Zealand

America wants to be America

What lies did they campaign on? NJ Republican campaigned on taxes, are you saying the people who pay the taxes don't know how much they are paying?

Youngkin who campaigned on schools and letting parents control what they teach their kids. Is it a lie that McAuliffe told the people that parents cannot dictate what is taught to their kids

Keep drinking the liberal cool-aid. And if all fails blame racism
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by uglymods: 12:41pm On Nov 03, 2021
raumdeuter:
America don't want to be Europe Australia New Zealand

America wants to be America

What lies did they campaign on? NJ Republican campaigned on taxes, are you saying the people who pay the taxes don't know how much they are paying?

Youngkin who campaigned on schools and letting parents control what they teach their kids. Is it a lie that McAuliffe told the people that parents cannot dictate what is taught to their kids

Keep drinking the liberal cool-aid. And if all fails blame racism
she is ibime, she knows tha US more
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:48pm On Nov 03, 2021
sanpipita:
The problem isn't really CRT or anything else but service delivery in terms of policies and promises, people won't care about things like CRT once you are delivering good policies.

Republicans pander to their craziest base and win, Democrats can so same only if they deliver but they are basically obstructing themselves in Congress, from infrastructure bill to voters rights bill, everything is still hanging there, it's affecting their supporters some might not even feel need to vote.
Which crazy base did Youngkin pander to to flip a -10 within 12months? You mean the independent and Democrats who voted Youngkin are now crazy. The same people who voted Obama twice are now crazy.. Well keep it up

Democrats say leave what they teach your kids to the teachers

Republicans say you decide what they teach your kids

Ask any parent which will they pick
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ekemeze:
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 1:07pm On Nov 03, 2021
raumdeuter:
Which crazy base did Youngkin pander to to flip a -10 within 12months? You mean the independent and Democrats who voted Youngkin are now crazy. The same people who voted Obama twice are now crazy.. Well keep it up

Democrats say leave what they teach your kids to the teachers

Republicans say you decide what they teach your kids

Ask any parent which will they pick
Lol you have to take it easy, I referred to edi who insinuated Democrats are being seen too left with certain issues which might cost them, I literally said Republicans go far right and win just about what matters to people more, Democrats can still be too left and win if they deliver.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 1:11pm On Nov 03, 2021
Youngkin did well to highlight things like CRT in school, with a population of white people in Virginia regardless of party they might choose not to go with teaching of CRT in schools, campaigns can be very simple and easy if you get your message right.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:14pm On Nov 03, 2021
raumdeuter:
America don't want to be Europe Australia New Zealand

America wants to be America

What lies did they campaign on? NJ Republican campaigned on taxes, are you saying the people who pay the taxes don't know how much they are paying?

Youngkin who campaigned on schools and letting parents control what they teach their kids. Is it a lie that McAuliffe told the people that parents cannot dictate what is taught to their kids

Keep drinking the liberal cool-aid. And if all fails blame racism
Lol, did democrats make any intention to force critical race theory in schools.

Did McAuliffe lie?why should parents want to control what their kids are taught till date some parents are against their children being taught evolution and why should they have a say on that?In Wisconsin after republicans tried to remove the school board members because they supported teachings on CRT the school board members won yesterday.

That argument of Youngkin holds no water he appealed on race and won it Virginia is still a part of the south,also I agree with you that America wants to be America it wants it racist history and pass to remain fashionable in 2021 while the rest of the world moves forward I agree with you on that.

Republicans campaigning on taxes didn't do a thing in NJ,it was just a repudiation of the democrats in congress inability to do nothing why should paying taxes even be an issue how do people expect government to perform if you don't pay taxes.
Some Americans are truly clueless.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 1:15pm On Nov 03, 2021
Virginia haven't elected a Governor of same party with the President like forever, New Jersey also haven't had an incumbent Governor be reelected (I still think Murphy will win though) but it just makes politics interesting, Democrats have their work cut out and should sit up.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:15pm On Nov 03, 2021
sanpipita:
Youngkin did well to highlight things like CRT in school, with a population of white people in Virginia regardless of party they might choose not to go with teaching of CRT in schools, campaigns can be very simple and easy if you get your message right.
Virginia is still a part of the old racist south.

Didn't you see that white women swung 15% to the GQP this time around
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ekemeze:
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:17pm On Nov 03, 2021
NJ has been tied on 49.6% for 3 hours now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:18pm On Nov 03, 2021
sanpipita:
Lol you have to take it easy, I referred to edi who insinuated Democrats are being seen too left with certain issues which might cost them, I literally said Republicans go far right and win just about what matters to people more, Democrats can still be too left and win if they deliver.
Exactly isn't it funny that progressives had a good run in some local races this time around.

The progressive policy poll after poll shows that what Biden offers in the BBB is very widely popular some of the progressive policies is what gives the democratic party ideas to run on.


Messaging is the problem and this republican win in Virginia will only empower them to spread more lies and run on culture wars.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:19pm On Nov 03, 2021
basilico:
NJ has been tied on 49.6% for 3 hours now.
Yep and when Phil Murphy wins re-election thanks to mail in votes you will be here to tell us it was rigged.
The incumbent governor has already caught up and is taking the lead.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 1:19pm On Nov 03, 2021
sanpipita:
Youngkin did well to highlight things like CRT in school, with a population of white people in Virginia regardless of party they might choose not to go with teaching of CRT in schools, campaigns can be very simple and easy if you get your message right.
Neither black people wanna hear CRT, just teach history and leave it there.

In the words of Menace 2 Society, Ain't nobody tyna hear that bullshït Shareef

Dems will hand over the country to fascists by losing Independent votes if they don't present a centrist face, but that's hard to do in Social Media age. Even if you want to, there's always an AOC drawing light to the left-wing on Social media.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:21pm On Nov 03, 2021
Ekemeze:
@Evangelynn.

So we can now agree that majority of Americans don't want Democrats policies? Well, I'm saying so because there are more republican Governors than Democrats.

In my own little opinion, I believe that the DEMS needs more Republicans voters right now to get the control they want, but can that happen for ? Well, if DEMS can cut off some of their policies which are somewhat extreme, maybe, just maybe, many MODERATE republicans will switch to DEM.
But if they don't want to do that, maybe they should wait for Gen-Z to get into power in future, for now, boomers ain't ready for the change that democrats policies will bring.

It all about CHANGE!
Why should dems cut off their policies when republicans don't have any yet keep winning.

That isn't the problem there is something wrong with some American voters and non issues or culture issues matter to them more especially white Americans and they delivered for republicans in Virginia.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:21pm On Nov 03, 2021
Evangelynn:
Virginia is still a part of the old racist south.

Didn't you see that white women swung 15% to the GQP this time around
In 2020 the Virginian democrats dumped 300k , with nearly all going for Joe.Three times.
This nonsense about white women is a coverup for the obvious fraud that took place.

And thats the kraken.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:23pm On Nov 03, 2021
Ibime:
Neither black people wanna hear CRT, just teach history and leave it there.

In the words of Menace 2 Society, Ain't nobody tyna hear that bullshït Shareef

Dems will hand over the country to fascists by losing Independent votes if they don't present a centrist face, but that's hard to do in Social Media age. Even if you want to, there's always an AOC drawing light to the left-wing on Social media.
Let the independents vote the fascist then,what more can the democrats do let Americans themselves use their hands and vote for fascism since the voters don't realise anything.

When democrats lose they are told to learn but when republicans lose no one tells them anything why are democrats always held to a higher standard than republicans?

I wouldn't want to blame democrats the American electorates themselves are handing the country over to fascist since policies don't matter to them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:23pm On Nov 03, 2021
basilico:
In 2020 the Virginian democrats dumped 300k , with nearly all going for Joe.Three times.
This nonsense about white women is a coverup for the obvious fraud that took place.

And thats the kraken.
Swerve please.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by uglymods: 1:25pm On Nov 03, 2021
sanpipita:
Youngkin did well to highlight things like CRT in school, with a population of white people in Virginia regardless of party they might choose not to go with teaching of CRT in schools, campaigns can be very simple and easy if you get your message right.
black people dont want CRT. ya donkey
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:25pm On Nov 03, 2021
Ekemeze:
cheesy

Just thinking out loud, now that republican candidate is the winner, are republican not gonna say it was fraudulent? You know? The 3:00am stealing lol
Lol leave those clowns cheesy grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by sanpipita(m): 1:26pm On Nov 03, 2021
Evangelynn:
Virginia is still a part of the old racist south.

Didn't you see that white women swung 15% to the GQP this time around
Youngkin message appealed to them, Republicans seems to have convinced voters CRT preaches hate especially against whites and I will tell you this even white Democrats might vote against CRT teaching in schools.

And McAuliffe actually performed well in rural places that are GOP strong hold just he didn't do better in places he was expected to win by higher margin that should tell us something either some Democrats didn't vote for him or they didn't bother to vote, I give Youngkin and his campaign team credit for that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by uglymods: 1:28pm On Nov 03, 2021
Ekemeze:
@Evangelynn.

So we can now agree that majority of Americans don't want Democrats policies? Well, I'm saying so because there are more republican Governors than Democrats.

In my own little opinion, I believe that the DEMS needs more Republicans voters right now to get the control they want, but can that happen for ? Well, if DEMS can cut off some of their policies which are somewhat extreme, maybe, just maybe, many MODERATE republicans will switch to DEM.
But if they don't want to do that, maybe they should wait for Gen-Z to get into power in future, for now, boomers ain't ready for the change that democrats policies will bring.

It all about CHANGE!
Biden is ah eye opening for tha black community. vaccine mandate and more. isa why they are flooding tha country with tha illegal hoping they can ah vote. black people are sick of tha biden and tha BLM
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Evangelynn(f): 1:29pm On Nov 03, 2021
American two party system is also a problem in the long run.

I understand that lets blame democrats but who blames republicans.Some electorates vote democratic to clean republican mess and when democrats struggle to clean it up they still vote republican to create more mess.

If America had other viable parties maybe some wouldn't be worried about American democracy because the GQP is willing to sell American democracy to win elections.
They are campaigning on fears, lies and propaganda yet they are still winning it seems working policies don't work with the average American voter or they are just low information voters.
It doesn't bode well for American democracy.
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