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sanpipita:
They gaslight black Americans much its crazy, today's conservatives won't mind bringing back things like segregations and slavery, they are in bed with Nazis and confederates but they think its too much for CRT to be taught in schools.

CRT is bad but segregation is good, BLM are violent, Proud boys are angels, these foolish people don't see a pattern.

When i say some of these guys needs shrinks because of their pyschiatric problems, some people think i am too hard on them. What's about them that sucks up to Nazis and Skinheads in America when they wilk be hung on a tree by the supporters of Trump they worship. Maybe, living under dictatorships all their lives messes up their lives. There's no excuse to give for these loudmouths who can't differentiate between Oklahoma and Tennessee if they do not look at Google or Wikipedia.

budaatum:
Listen to him claim its 200 years old, but has no issues with supremacists carring a 200+ year old Confederate flag. Guess not knowing history he doesn't know what they are saying with the flag.

If you can show one instance I have supported the Proud Boys, KKK, or defended the Confederate flag, I'd write you a 1000-word apology then deactivate my account afterwards.

You stupîd shameless liar! You project your lies all over the place. You are the racist and tribalist on Nairaland.

On the other hand, I can show instances of you race-baiting and, in Nigerian issues, placing a glass ceiling on and being hateful/tribalistic towards the Igbos.
You are the tribal version of the KKK. You have declared hatred towards the Igbos and stated they should never be allowed to be President. Everything is here on Nairaland.

I can be cool with you but you are a barefaced liar who needs to be called out.

Did I say you defended, or that you have no issue with them carrying a 200+ year old flag?

Dude, stop trying to waste my time!

DissTroy:
If you can show one instance I have supported the Proud Boys, KKK, or defended the Confederate flag, I'd write you a 1000-word apology then deactivate my account afterwards.

You stupîd shameless liar! You project your lies all over the place. You are the racist and tribalist on Nairaland.

On the other hand, I can show instances of you race-baiting and, in Nigerian issues, placng a glass ceiling on and being hateful/tribalistic towards the Igbos.
You are the tribal version of the KKK. You have declared hatred towards the Igbos and stated they should never be allowed to be President.

I can be cool with you but you are a barefaced liar who needs to be called out.

DissTroy:
If you can show one instance I have supported the Proud Boys, KKK, or defended the Confederate flag, I'd write you a 1000-word apology then deactivate my account afterwards.

You stupîd shameless liar! You project your lies all over the place. You are the racist and tribalist on Nairaland.

On the other hand, I can show instances of you race-baiting and, in Nigerian issues, placing a glass ceiling on and being hateful/tribalistic towards the Igbos.
You are the tribal version of the KKK. You have declared hatred towards the Igbos and stated they should never be allowed to be President. Everything is here on Nairaland.

I can be cool with you but you are a barefaced liar who needs to be called out.

Ibos Isa fit becom president ifi demu work fa it. President Isa nat land on peoples lap easy. Buti ibos Isa nat goodu wit politiking. Demu need ta learn work Fram NDI yarubawa andi Hausa/Fulani

budaatum:
Did I say you defended, or that you have no issue with them carrying a 200+ year old flag?

Dude, stop trying to waste my time!

Semantics! Stating I have no issue with Confederate-flag-waving lunatics is tantamount to stating I support them or I have stated in clear terms when asked that I have no issue with them.
In fact, I have never been part of any discussion about Confederate flags but I have repeatedly referred to the Proud Boys and KKK as lunatics. (You can local-search "DissTroy KKK" and "DissTroy Proud Boys" to confirm this.)

This is exactly what consititues cancel culture and destroying lives. If you had made this statement on Twitter and I were white, the mob would have attacked me and I'd be destroyed. They don't even need proof as you could claim I deleted the tweet or said so to somebody who knows somebody close to you.

That tactics is exactly how Chrissy Teigen, John Legend's wife, used in destroying many white people's lives on Twitter for years until her tricks caught up with her.

You knew what you were doing when you lied to Sanpipita that I have no issue with waving the Confederate flag. That's a veiled way of calling someone a racist or KKK member.

Shameless tool!

Nigeria is on the precipice brought by Buhari and the past despotic leaders but the Coons here doesn't give a damn as long as they can spout their garbage about America.

Livelystone01:
Biden's inability to solve some economic issues affecting the common man and his inability to get through with some of his campaign promises will continue to haunt and hunt the Democratic party in any election.

2022 according to history does not favour the Dems, Biden is making it easier for the Republicans to have a sweet outing next year.

This has nothing to do with low intelligence among voters, it is common sense. People are voting based on what they are observing.
His (Biden) continuous falling rating is also a pointer to how electorates are voting.

You don't preside over an economy that is having inflation and other issues and yet expect the people to vote for you. Not when they are not seeing any new policy to suggest any improvement sooner.

The reason for the wider margin between Trump and Biden in some of these states last year is due to the fact that most people are angry with how Trump handled the covid situation, if not, he would have won.
It is safe to say that people voted against Trump out of anger instead of their likes for Biden.

American voters are low intelligence voters abeg, accepted they voted for biden en masse but it was a vote against trump not a vote for biden and that matters. Last year's vote was an emotional one, this Virginia's vote is an indictment on the intelligence of Virginians, true the democrats are failing to deliver but an intelligent voter would have deduced why and the why would be obstructionist corporate democrats and the solution to that would have been to vote in more liberal democrats as voting republicans in this case makes absolutely no sense since they won't go in the very direction democrats are attempting to go and failing in the first place. If the economic reforms of the democrats are what they desire then they will endeavour to vote in liberal democrats over corporate democrats and republicans, that is the simple basic intelligence that many rural American voters lack, they will always be swayed by sentiments and innuendos against facts

gambojimeta:
Ibos Isa fit becom president ifi demu work fa it. President Isa nat land on peoples lap easy. Buti ibos Isa nat goodu wit politiking. Demu need ta learn work Fram NDI yarubawa andi Hausa/Fulani

I agree. Which is why in previous posts even on this thread, I chastise the Igbos for revelling in victimhood. An Ibibio man has a higher chance of being President of this country as it stands than an Igbo man. Why? The Ibibios unrobed that victim status, built bridges (Obasanjo, Goodluck and Kwankwaso loved spending time in Akwa Ibom even while in office. Do confirm this.) but the Igbos revel in victimhood when they can be more sociopolitically. The Igbos hold the economic reins of this country and they don't even realise the power they have.

Odd that Ibibios have higher chances because the Ibibios and Igbo's fought side by side during the Civil War to the very end. So why is one better than the other sociopolitically?
That's a question we need to answer.

But stating like Budaatum did that Igbos should never be allowed to be President is a no-no. Now you know why it particular irks me when he goes off about racism and BLM. Hypocrisy!

So being tribalistic towards the Igbos and Igbo lives don't matter?

Ibime:
Inflation was inevitable given the printing of dollars under Trump last year

Dems are paying for Afghanistan and inability to relegate the far lefters in their midst while presenting up and coming centrist faces

pray tell, why do you think the "far lefter's" amongst the democrats should be relegated?

DissTroy:
CRT doesn't just preach hatred for whites as supposed oppressors, it glamorises victimhood as a status blacks should revel in. We discussed at length what it constitutes in September(?) this year and you Leftists (Budaatum especially) kept doubling down on the victimhood of blacks, even referencing atrocities of 200 years ago as basis for CRT which was formed less than 40 years ago, and became widespread even years later when conditions had improved for blacks.

Are whites the reason why blacks Americans constitute just under 14 percent of the population but commit over 80 percent of murders?

Is racism the reason why blacks have the highest abortion rates per demography and dysfunctional, broken families?

How come you don't call it racism when blacks benefit from Affirmative Action?

You even tried to excuse away underachievements of some blacks as down to racism and glass ceiling yet you couldn't prove any scenario which places a glass ceiling for black achievements.

the bolded above is pure contrived bullshyte and I'm disappointed this is coming from you.
A victim stating out that factually I am the victim is not glamorising victimhood, it just is what it is, if the multigenerational wealth of many European American families can not be divorced from policies put in place to favour them over centuries then multigenerational poverty in black families can also not be divorced from racist policies against them spanning centuries.
Truth is truth whether it supports my narrative or yours

benalvino3:
Because CRT is not history but it teaches hate, it says blacks should hate whites, and all white are racists. If they give you a diamond and a billion dollars, they gave you for a racist reason, if they don't give you a diamond and a billion it is because they are racist.

Democrats don't even want that crap.

good Lord! What Kentucky farm do they grow minds like yours in? This shyte you're sprouting is a shameful disgrace

WispyEthereal:
good Lord! What Kentucky farm do they grow minds like yours in? This shyte you're sprouting is a shameful disgrace

what are the tenents of CRT?

use google, list them out then tell me what you understand. Else STFU

DissTroy:
But stating like Budaatum did that Igbos should never be allowed to be President is a no-no.

Show us where buda said "Igbos should never be allowed to be President is a no-no"!

However you wish to dice it, Nigeria will not elect a president who's aim and manifesto is the destruction of Nigeria, so find me an Igbo person who is suitable and I will personally vote for that person if they are antibiafra and the best candidate.

Hint. Soludo. And Iweala, though you say she's not Igbo.

WispyEthereal:
good Lord! What Kentucky farm do they grow minds like yours in? This shyte you're sprouting is a shameful disgrace

That piece of garbage called benalvino3 is irredeemable. The idiot was one of the first coons here to openly say he will take Proud Boys over African Americans. A worthless liar that's not worth dialogueing with.

WispyEthereal:
American voters are low intelligence voters abeg, accepted they voted for biden en masse but it was a vote against trump not a vote for biden and that matters. Last year's vote was an emotional one, this Virginia's vote is an indictment on the intelligence of Virginians, true the democrats are failing to deliver but an intelligent voter would have deduced why and the why would be obstructionist corporate democrats and the solution to that would have been to vote in more liberal democrats as voting republicans in this case makes absolutely no sense since they won't go in the very direction democrats are attempting to go and failing in the first place. If the economic reforms of the democrats are what they desire then they will endeavour to vote in liberal democrats over corporate democrats and republicans, that is the simple basic intelligence that many rural American voters lack, they will always be swayed by sentiments and innuendos against facts

How do you expect the people to vote in a liberal democrat when the DNC gave their candidacy to a corporate one or is it the people that presented the corporate candidates to the party?

Same thing with the GOP. How do you expect the people to focus on a liberal Republican when the party gave them a core one?

The answer is simple. The people saw two negatives, they simply voted the ones who connected more with them than those who connected more with corporations.

It is about interest here. You will also vote for someone who talked more about your personal issues than voting for another who seem to be speaking for a group.

Also, Biden has not done anything to sway voters to see the democrats as a better option either. His falling rating is showing how people feel about the party and the administration.

Next year will be extremely tough for the democrats. They will lose the house and senate if Biden doesn't get to work.
This is my prediction for the mid term.

DissTroy:
It does.

Here's the difference between Jews who suffered the Holocaust and Blacks today whose grandfathers didn't even experience slavery:

The Jews acknowledge their history and the horrors they suffered but it has spurred them to achieve more. They shun victimhood and have instead taken proactive measures to dominate every sphere of society, from politics to trade to tech and real estate.
The most influential lobby groups in the US today are Jewish/Jews.

In fact, it's almost like their fear of the Holocaust ever happening again is why Jews (in Israel) too are combat-ready and have pushed themselves to ascend to the very zenith of any profession.

Instead of blacks who teach revelling in victimhood to their kids, Jews/Jewish people indoctrinate and push their young ones never to settle for less. Research this part.



Nobody is saying don't talk about history but don't revel in victimhood. It's the main problem I have with the Igbos - they can be anything really sociopolitically in this country (I believe this) but they keep revelling in victimhood of the Civil War when they weren't the only victims. Ibibios, Ukwuanis and others were victims of that war too but we've managed to move on.
Do you want me to break it down to you how the other tribes in league with the Igbos suffered the fall out of the Civil War? Do you want to break it down to you how the Igbos turned on their other tribal neighbouring allies during the war? Don't get me started on that part. We got over the bitterness of the fallout but we didn't forget. It's the main reason Rivers and Akwa Ibom States do not allow any form of Biafra rally over the years. It has nothing to do with Wike and Udom Emmanuel's choices.

The Igbos' case is even understandable given it happened in recent history but Black Americans?

Tell your history. Let it galvanize you to be more, not cage you. The difference between the Jews and Black Americans.

pray tell, in all these you're preaching was there any arm of government actively passing legislation against Jews post holocaust? Were any people discriminating against Jews as a matter of policy? Were their sufferings "officially" acknowledged and reparations paid? Have we ever been allowed to forget about the holocaust to the point that Nazi paraphernalia and memorabilia are tolerated outside dedicated meseums? Were statues of famous Nazis made celebrating the nationalism of Germany and the Aryan race?
Are there modern day police cultures derived from the officially sanctioned policy of Jew hunting and oppression that are found acceptable?
Was there a holocaust 2.0 which was a holocaust in all but name legalised by thinly veiled laws discriminating against Jews on the vaguest of pretences?
Is there a Jewish version of Jim crow?
Were Jews ever denied the franchise? Did they have to have their version of the civil right movement for obvious reasons?

How the hell on earth can you sit in the comfort of your African immunity from racist discrimination and say black Americans espouse to victimhood and that that is what CRT teaches?
Men, I just can't........ I can't! You have a remarkable ability to switch of empathy to arrive at a narrative otherwise you should have been able to put yourself in the shoes of the affected and see things from their perspective.

sanpipita:
Jews at sight of Nazi flags will get offended and justified but a black American getting offended by confederate flags becomes victimhood, this life.

I just taya
The bullshyte some grown ass men will contrive to support a conservative narrative against every logic is not funny at all

WispyEthereal:
pray tell, in all these you're preaching was there any arm of government actively passing legislation against Jews post holocaust? Were any people discriminating against Jews as a matter of policy? Were their sufferings "officially" acknowledged and reparations paid? Have we ever been allowed to forget about the holocaust to the point that Nazi paraphernalia and memorabilia are tolerated outside dedicated meseums? Were statues of famous Nazis made celebrating the nationalism of Germany and the Aryan race?
Are there modern day police cultures derived from the officially sanctioned policy of Jew hunting and oppression that are found acceptable?
Was there a holocaust 2.0 which was a holocaust in all but name legalised by thinly veiled laws discriminating against Jews on the vaguest of pretences?
Is there a Jewish version of Jim crow?
Were Jews ever denied the franchise? Did they have to have their version of the civil right movement for obvious reasons?

How the hell on earth can you sit in the comfort of your African immunity from racist discriminating and say black Americans espouse to victimhood and that that is what CRT teaches?
Men, I just can't........ I can't! You have a remarkable ability to switch of empathy to arrive at a narrative otherwise you should have been able to put yourself in the shoes of the affected and see things from their perspective.

I don't think he understands that carrying a confederate flag is the same as proudly wearing a swastika.

Try it where I live and you'd end up in jail!

Ibime:
What carried him there with gun in the first place. Racism and baiting.

you are not making sense and i am not surprised. Did you ask what George flyord was doing at that 7/11? Nope... Did you ask what the people he shot was doing there? nope...
were you okay with them burning peoples property? were you okay with them criminals carrying guns? So how
He worked in the city, they burn the city so just like many others like him, he was out to protect. something similar happened recently in South africa. the people who carried Guns to protect their properties were the people who did not lose their business.

If Ijaw people are protesting against something to do with Government (whether real or perceived) what concerns an Ikwerre man with going to bait them with gun, especially an Ikwerre man who travelled from Rivers to Bayelsa for the purpose. What do you think Ijaw boys will try to do to such Ikwerre man

the above is rubbish and has nothing to do with the discussion. But ijaws can have businesses at ikwerre land and they can protect their business there if they can.

so if the Ijaw boys want to kill the ikwerre man let them do it but he has the right to defend himself. you think before you talk.

The first guy he shot just came out of psychiatric hospital that morning and was chasing him and stoning him, he turned and shot him. That was the first shot fired. Obviously everyone else in that gathering will be inflamed and go after him. Bare in mind, that group of supremacists had set up snipers at the top of that building and inflaming the crowd all day. You go to a race riot wearing insignia and fatigues associated with White Supremacist paramilitary groups, carrying a gun and expect people to not get inflamed.

Rosenbaum was out provoking people with Gun, Saying Shoot me Nigger, He chased Kyle who was running away from him. and only God knows what would have happened to kyle if kyle did not defend himself. Did you ask why he was there if he just came out from the Ward? nope. Kyle only turned and faced Rosenbaum because makinzy fired his gun in the air as kyle ran passed him and kyle turned to face the shooter, whice was when he shot and killed Rosenbaum.

How it works in America, carry a gun somewhere, inflame people and when they react, shoot them and get away with self defence claim.

American Expert

[s]A white-supremacist loving Umudike cøon suffering with poverty daily and scraping to put together N200K a month will see support for that White Supremacist as his daily delight. That's why the poverty and wretchedness of an Umudike coøn is a delight to me. After celebrating his acquital, the Umudike coøn will still wake up the next day looking for where to eat. Fantastic.[/s]

Lol, your wealth na say you they live for England guy chill, nothing you get.

also, if your parents or family accomulate wealth, you for no they brag say you dey on your second mortgage. keep your Iphone 7(vodafone) well. hungry Nigerian girls they rock 11, 12 and 13.

you are more of a coon than i will ever be.

PrideofLincoln1:
That piece of garbage called benalvino3 is irredeemable. The idiot was one of the first coons here to openly say he will take Proud Boys over African Americans. A worthless liar that's not worth dialogueing with.

you are old, almost 70 and you are here. who is irredeemable? again you are 70, you are gone.

I said i will take hitler and kkk over you. i will take any proud boy over you because to you all nigerians are pigs, poor etc. you think you are a god because you live in the US. empty barrel. Mouth, you cannot show anything like a middle class citizen. you live a fake life here and completely exposed. you said you are a millionaire but your daughter is begging on the internet to bury her mother... the one you use to secure your visa.

you are old, will you ever grow up?

WispyEthereal:
the bolded above is pure contrived bullshyte and I'm disappointed this is coming from you.
A victim stating out that factually I am the victim is not glamorising victimhood, it just is what it is, if the multigenerational wealth of many European American families can not be divorced from policies put in place to favour them over centuries then multigenerational poverty in black families can also not be divorced from racist policies against them spanning centuries.
Truth is truth whether it supports my narrative or yours

tell us what you understand about CRT. the last time Disstroy and I discuss this with these simpletons, none of them could show any real understanding of it. so tell what you know lets discuss it.

benalvino3:
you are old, almost 70 and you are here. who is irredeemable? again you are 70, you are gone.

I said i will take hitler and kkk over you. i will take any proud boy over you because to you all nigerians are pigs, poor etc. you think you are a god because you live in the US. empty barrel. Mouth, you cannot show anything like a middle class citizen. you live a fake life here and completely exposed. you said you are a millionaire but your daughter is begging on the internet to bury her mother... the one you use to secure your visa.

you are old, will you ever grow up?

Piece of human debris. I am not 70, i am in my 80s brainstem lover of Proud Boys. The best in your poverty cursed lineage can't carry my jockstrap. A coon and a certified liar who doesn't know the difference between a Check and Cheque. Like i said, get your brothers in penury and anything you cursed idiots comes up with will be tripled by me to go to a worthy charity. Born in poverty and probably die in poverty like your forefathers.

DissTroy:
You are dumb or play dumb to further the chatter by the voices in your head.

Thankfully, knowing how manipulative you Leftists are, I took time to address all areas in my previous post.

You don't see Jews yelling Jew Lives Matter. They know their history. Holocaust jokes are still sensitive to Jews but they aren't asking for hand-me-downs and the standards lowered for them like Black Americans are doing.

They are not asking for affirmative actions.

They are not consoling themselves when they fail that America is antisemitic (we both know the Left has many antisemitic campaigners, including Ilhan Omar).

They are avoiding crimes as much as they can instead of doing crimes and blaming the American system for victimising black men.

Unlike blacks, they aren't canonising violent male criminals amongst them who rapéd and abuse women because it's political weapon.

They are not asking for donations to Jew Lives Matter and the monies being siphoned to ActBlue which funds Democrat party and social activities.



You shameless liar! Anyone who read my replies to you all through would see I pointed out history (old and recent) should be taught but victimhood should never glamorised.

I see how you deviously avoided all the points which I stated Black Americans do to themselves like highest murder rates, abortions, substance convictions, prison demography, dysfunctional families, and violent crimes even though they are less than 14 percent of the population.

Black-on-black violent crimes alone are higher than all violent crimes put together? Is racism the reason Blacks Americans keep murdering themselves?

Oga this is bullshyte, miss me with it!
Black on black crimes higher than all violent crimes put together, oga bring data make we see
Whites kill whites equally at the same rate but white on white crime doesn't fit a conservative political narrative so it was never made a thing
You mentioned substance convictions, that is one of the things the CRT you condemn for political reasons would have educated you on, blacks and whites abuse substance at equal rates, but blacks are three times more likely to be arrested and when arrested, convicted than whites and given longer sentences too and that is a product of systemic racism in the justice system
When the CIA contra ops of the 70's and 80's flooded American poor neighbourhoods with drugs and guns deliberately, a war on drugs was declared and the police given their marching orders into black neighbourhoods to feed the prison system, on the flip side when rural Republican loving white America got hooked on opiods a health crisis and not a war was declared instead, see the difference in narrative? An educated black man with critical thinking would have seen this disparity for what it is but you're race blind right? Racism could never have anything to do with this could it? Imagine a war on opiods were declared today, how many white bodies would be in the prison system by years end?

You are as devious as Budaatum. When you lose, you run off then return 24 hours later claiming you were busy and couldn't continue with the arguments.

You couldn't even go on with the Igbo/Biafra example you tried to juxtapose after I attacked and countered it. Stop addressing issues you can't defend with verified facts.

For every fact I have stated, I can provide links to official US Government sources collaborating these facts. Yet you can't prove even one way there's a glass ceiling on black achievements.

Same way both of you kept denying there's no law legalising conditional cannibalism in the US. I brought evidence and you began whataboutism to muddy the waters then ran off into the shadows.

Facts only here! Your emotions and assumptions matter little when the truth light is beamed.

I look forward to your official government statistics showing black on black violent crimes are higher than all violent crimes put together
https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2021/jun/1/us-doj-statistics-race-and-ethnicity-violent-crime-perpetrators/
The above is sourced from the DOJ since we're doing official sources and is for 2021
There is similar for 2018 but I'm getting firewalled accessing it

Updated
https://www.crimeinamerica.net/department-of-justice-data-on-violent-crime-and-race/

This contains data from 2018 too that disproves your claim that black people commit more violent crimes than all others put together but I won't call you a liar, I will wait till you present your facts so we can compare

PrideofLincoln1:
Piece of human debris. I am not 70, i am in my 80s brainstem lover of Proud Boys. The best in your poverty cursed lineage can't carry my jockstrap. A coon and a certified liar who doesn't know the difference between a Check and Cheque. Like i said, get your brothers in penury and anything you cursed idiots comes up with will be tripled by me to go to a worthy charity. Born in poverty and probably die in poverty like your forefathers.

you have been saying the same thing over and over again. You could have helped your daugter when she needed money bury her mother, the woman you used to obtain your visa but you didn't. you are broke, only rich on nairaland. so old wrinkled face bounce. you are a nobody to even your children.

obixcel:
Well said but unfortunately no amount of eye-opening & constructive analysis will open his eyes. This people just want to keep wallowing in the mud of victimhood.

a well presented falsehood is still falsehood

budaatum:
You are very very dumb!

The Jews don't need to yell Jews lives matter because no one on this earth, except in the Arab world perhaps, would dare say Jews lives don't matter!

If black lives were as valued as Jew lives, blacks wouldn't be reminding you their lives matter neither. Just as Palestinians wouldn't either if their lives were valued too!

I couldn't have said it better

WispyEthereal:
a well presented falsehood is still falsehood

Nobody lie like you do in here.

benalvino3:
what are the tenents of CRT?

use google, list them out then tell me what you understand. Else STFU

why the hillbilly fvck should I play by your book and define CRT by tennet?

prideoflincoln1 old donkey

WispyEthereal:
why the hillbilly fvck should I play by your book and define CRT by rennet?

or is it that you are clueless? lets see ya donkey

budaatum:
I don't think he understands that carrying a confederate flag is the same as proudly wearing a swastika.

Try it where I live and you'd end up in jail!

he does, but he is playing to the conservative gallery here of which he is apparently the star. I refuse to believe he could be that ignorant