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DissTroy:
Semantics! Stating I have no issue with Confederate-flag-waving lunatics is tantamount to stating I support them or I have stated in clear terms when asked that I have no issue with them.
In fact, I have never been part of any discussion about Confederate flags but I have repeatedly referred to the Proud Boys and KKK as lunatics. (You can local-search "DissTroy KKK" and "DissTroy Proud Boys" to confirm this.)

This is exactly what consititues cancel culture and destroying lives. If you had made this statement on Twitter and I were white, the mob would have attacked me and I'd be destroyed. They don't even need proof as you could claim I deleted the tweet or said so to somebody who knows somebody close to you.

That tactics is exactly how Chrissy Teigen, John Legend's wife, used in destroying many white people's lives on Twitter for years until her tricks caught up with her.

You knew what you were doing when you lied to Sanpipita that I have no issue with waving the Confederate flag. That's a veiled way of calling someone a racist or KKK member.

Shameless tool!

You lack proper comprehension or what? is it a lie that people who are attacking CRT embrace Nazis and confederates? be free to include yourself if you wish.

WispyEthereal:
I just taya
The bullshyte some grown ass men will contrive to support a conservative narrative against every logic is not funny at all

These guys are dumb, very dumb, they think because they are able to hold contrarian beliefs they become smart, whatever nonsense he has been saying here I have dealt with it before, these are same things you will hear White supremacists say.

sanpipita:
You lack proper comprehension or what? is it a lie that people who are attacking CRT embrace Nazis and confederates? be free to include yourself if you wish.

hahaha, donkey as dumb fire wood isa talk about comprehension

DissTroy:
Official statistics of crimes by the Office of Justice Programs, US Department of Justice
https://www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2


Bear in mind that blacks are just less than 14 percent of the population.

Black Americans commit the highest crimes in these areas:

- Murder and manslaughter

- Robbery

The most violent of crimes. Yet just 14 percent of the population. Less than one-seventh of the whole population committing the highest murders and robbery. But CRT wants us to believe racism is the cause.

See how I provided evidence from official US government websites? I baited you. Take a thousand seats! You're a toddler in the game of wits. I never make claims I don't have evidence for.

so this is how you argue then go about shouting you're right blah bla bla and eventually bore people of! This is the weak, watery, lame defence you could muster?
Firstly who and what do you take me for? Do you take me for a kid? I can read, I can understand, what was your claim, oh =======> "black on black violent crime is more(I'm guessing by numbers) than all other violent crimes put together" so tell me, this was what I pointed out and this was what I set to disprove and by extension I'm saying if I set to disprove the rest of your claim I bolded, the ones on prison incarceration, drug convictions, abortion e.t.c I will do same, so by what form of mathematics does the table you provided support YOUR LIE seeing as this is what your failure to prove your claim automatically becomes! Your lie!
The argument wasn't the highest percentage representation by population on the violent crimes chart, your statement was blanket, blacks commit more violent crimes against blacks than every other violent crime added together! That was your claim except you will like to interpret your comment for our collective benefit and understanding.
Also in case you've forgotten how to read and interpret data, the table you provided was for 2019, I provided DOJ statistics by percentage points for 2018 and 2021 and your table when boiled down to percentages still correlates with the other years for the first four crimes by row which aggregate the violent crimes, even rape isn't even accounted for and all in all blacks still account for over 30% whites close to 50% and Hispanics around 14% Asians around 4% so how did blacks commit 50.00001% of the violent crimes according to your claim?


You also claim you provided data from sic official government sites, so are you claiming the data i provided was unofficial or what? Clarify this your point before I accuse you rightly or wrongly of dancing naked in the streets to a tune in your head

And lastly, you claim to be a master and me a toddler (lol, you don't know me neither do i know you yet you think you know enough to declare yourself smarter than me by your standards, in another era i will call you arrogant and act accordingly and drop you down your ladder a few rungs at a time but i will just ignore this beyond this point) and this a game (not a debate) of wits (not on truths) childish much?

Evangelynn:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/texas-schools-books-race-sexuality/2021/10/27/dcaa30c2-3738-11ec-8be3-e14aaacfa8ac_story.html


Prideoflincoln1,sanpipita and budaatum hope you guys are seeing the GQP playbook they are attempting to attack education they will run on this in 2022.It just doesn't end with CRT. They actually want to control what children learn in school this is dangerous leave education for the educators,let writers be free to express themselves to the audience they hope to reach


So much for freedom,less government overreach or small government,GQP hypocrites finding it hard to run on actual policies.

I feel for anyone who isn't seeing the bigger picture

I'm not surprised by this, I said this before, is it not same Texas that few months voted to remove parts of MLK speech and women rights history from their education, I came here and asked why is such history a problem too?

Many idiots we have here are in curious about this.

chopnaira:
Yesi. Dati isi da chief donkey bwoy imself

let's create a gofundit for it it looks hungry

WispyEthereal:
so this is how you argue then go about shouting you're right blah bla bla and eventually bore people of! This is the weak, watery, lame defence you could muster?
Firstly who and what do you take me for? Do you take me for a kid? I can read, I can understand, what was your claim, oh =======> "black on black violent crime is more(I'm guessing by numbers) than all other violent crimes put together" so tell me, this was what I pointed out and this was what I set to disprove and by extension I'm saying if I set to disprove the rest of your claim I bolded, the ones on prison incarceration, drug convictions, abortion e.t.c I will do same, so by what form of mathematics does the table you provided support YOUR LIE seeing as this is what your failure to prove your claim automatically becomes! Your lie!
The argument wasn't the highest percentage representation by population on the violent crimes chart, your statement was blanket, blacks commit more violent crimes against blacks than every other violent crime added together! That was your claim except you will like to interpret your comment for our collective benefit and understanding.
Also in case you've forgotten how to read and interpret data, the table you provided was for 2019, I provided DOJ statistics by percentage points for 2018 and 2021 and your table when boiled down to percentages still correlates with the other years for the first four crimes by row which aggregate the violent crimes, even rape isn't even accounted for and all in all blacks still account for over 30% whites close to 50% and Hispanics around 14% Asians around 4% so how did blacks commit 50.00001% of the violent crimes according to your claim?


You also claim you provided data from sic official government sites, so are you claiming the data i provided was unofficial or what? Clarify this your point before I accuse you rightly or wrongly of dancing naked in the streets to a tune in your head

And lastly, you claim to be a master and me a toddler (lol, you don't know me neither do i know you yet you think you know enough to declare yourself smarter than me by your standards, in another era i will call you arrogant and act accordingly and drop you down your ladder a few rungs at a time but i will just ignore this beyond this point) and this a game (not a debate) of wits (not on truths) childish much?

he is by far smarter than you are. you isa conspiracy theorist who isa lie left and right

sanpipita:
I'm not surprised by this, I said this before, is it not same Texas that few months voted to remove parts of MLK speech and women rights history from their education, I came here and asked why is such history a problem too?

Many idiots we have here are in curious about this.

Republicans hate education and history,no wonder most of their voters are uneducated even Trump said he loves the uneducated.
They would campaign on this next year and claim it is divisive yet they are the ones stoking the flames of division.

sanpipita:
I'm not surprised by this, I said this before, is it not same Texas that few months voted to remove parts of MLK speech and women rights history from their education, I came here and asked why is such history a problem too?

Many idiots we have here are in curious about this.

Wait till the nazi lovers here tell you that Rev Martin Luther King Jnr was a communist because they hear it from the Ku Klux Klans journals. These guys needs pyschiatric evaluations and sadly enough, there's not a good one in Nigeria. These cursed losers love Nazis and Klans more than the people that looks like them.

sonofcornpop:
he is by far smarter than you are. you isa conspiracy theorist who isa lie left and right

lol I figured he is your champion and by extension you declared yourself comparatively brainless (not than we didn't know before )
So let him come and defend his smarts, I'm game, now gettout!

WispyEthereal:
let's create a gofundit for it it looks hungry

I Isa support. D bwoy Isa suffa too mach

Evangelynn:
Republicans hate education and history,no wonder most of their voters are uneducated even Trump said he loves the uneducated.
They would campaign on this next year and claim it is divisive yet they are the ones stoking the flames of division.

You nailed it. Have seen the Republikkkans in Appalachia and the Deep South and don't get me started on them.

sonofcornpop:
hahaha, donkey as dumb fire wood isa talk about comprehension

Ya pooop head Isa nat tired ofu licking Dullard disstroyer arsehole.see disstroyer pooop inya mouth kikiki

Why u Isa wear ya okrika shirt insidey outey. Ya suffa Fram mental health prablems

chopnaira:
I Isa support. D bwoy Isa suffa too mach

only condition is it must first post an official picture of itself begging bowl in hand and placard on neck reading it's legend "I adedayo adedapo whatever whatever a.k.a bambialla humbly request aid from the magnanimousity of my liberal benefactors and forthwith declare myself born again with no intention of ever sinning again"

WispyEthereal:
only condition is it must first post an official picture of itself begging bowl in hand and placard on neck reading it's legend "I adedayo adedapo whatever whatever a.k.a bambialla humbly request aid from the magnanimousity of my liberal benefactors and forthwith declare myself born again with no intention of ever sinning again"

I Isa down fa dat

chopnaira:

I Isa down fa dat

it is reading it is sorely tempted but doesn't want to lose face, it should know we liberals are for the masses even the irritants amongst the masses like it

PrideofLincoln1:
You nailed it. Have seen the Republikkkans in Appalachia and the Deep South and don't get me started on them.

ya donkey "you nailed it" you nailed it old man losing his cognitive ability

sanpipita:
You lack proper comprehension or what? is it a lie that people who are attacking CRT embrace Nazis and confederates? be free to include yourself if you wish.

Exactly! You are proving my point! This is the reason many people of other races shy away from talking about CRT. Regardless of the facts presented, you would label them racist as the cheap escape route from intellectual, factual debates.

But it baffles you when people of your own race question these things. The racist claim holds no weight.

You and WispyEthereal are dumbfounded and can't even counter the stats. Are you going to argue against obvious US government stats like you did claiming the law legalising conditional cannibalism doesn't hold even though it's a written law?

I just should you official evidence of Black Americans having committing the highest number of murders and robberies despite being just 14 percent of the population and on about whataboutism.

You need to be schooled in the art and science of logical debates. Everything I have stated since morning when I joined in this has been focused on one thing:

How flawed the premise of CRT is and how victimhood would always draw blacks back. Every single thing. Not deviated once. All the needless epistles about issues which doesn't relate to black sociopolitical reach are only as relevant as Budaatum's need to display pseudo-sanctimony.


You're as smart as rusty doornail hammered to a wooden pole. Sanpipita: even your username seems like a dyslexia subtype.

sonofcornpop:
ya donkey "you nailed it" you nailed it old man losing his cognitive ability

Ya poophead. Why Isa everybady dwarf fa ya family

Lackey ofu balance dietey

See asi ya head Isa bigg too mach andi ya leggs Isa shot Dani ya uppa bady. Dwarf donkey Isa feedi on snakey, mouse andi lizaard

DissTroy:
I swear by everything, these guys on Nairaland, on live interviews, or on other social media platforms always duck the CRT debate. If it's a White person questioning them, they gaslight with the racist tag. When it's black like us they run.

The last time we had a full debate about CRT, only Budaatum could start to argue on the Leftist side of the fence. And even him disagreed with some of the postulations of the CRT proponents.

The other guys began a cussfest days after.

I don't even mind, no insults but any of them who is intelligent enough to debate the CRT should step up. They better bring their A-game and come with facts from credible (neutral) or official sources we can all verify, not some nonsense emotional blackmail attempts.

They always run.

I promise I won't, what is it? Yeah, I won't run, bring it on! Maybe I will be the one to succeed in showing you that your pretence to ignorance isn't fooling anyone

WispyEthereal:
I promise I won't, what is it? Yeah, I won't run, bring it on! Maybe I will be the one to succeed in showing you that your pretence to ignorance isn't fooling anyone

Dude, I registered on Nairaland in 2014 and have been active and my accounts known sinne then. Never before have I been bested in debates or e-brawls. One of the reasons for that is simple: I never debate or comment on issues I don't have a firm grasp of.

If you start a debate about crypto-trading, I'd take a backseat. I know the terms but I'm not invested in the topic. Unlike you, I'd never jump in to show off.

Aren't you the same guy who was claiming England was ruled by blacks and was confused about the age of the first homo sapiens yet I kept correcting you with evidence and links, only for you to return 4 days later?

You have the inverse proportion of Einstein's IQ!

chopnaira:
Ya poophead. Why Isa everybady dwarf fa ya family

Lackey ofu balance dietey

See asi ya head Isa bigg too mach andi ya leggs Isa shot Dani ya uppa bady. Dwarf donkey Isa feedi on snakey, mouse andi lizaard

Look at that background for heaven's sake. Enough to make a sane man puke. A midget that lives with his father and mother in a jungle filled with wild animals. My two dogs won't last 5 hours in that garbage and dust filled jungle the dwarf dwells in. M9st of these poverty cursed Coons are probably living like that. Bunch of poverty cursed losers.

DissTroy:
Exactly! You are proving my point! This is the reason many people of other races shy away from talking about CRT. Regardless of the facts presented, you would label them racist as the cheap escape route from intellectual, factual debates.

Lie! People of other races don't shy away from talking about CRT, there is absolutely nothing controversial about it
Truth, republicans of all races shy away from talking about CRT and the reason is purely political, not teaching the actual American history and not the whitewashed version being taught that CRT requires resonates with their voting demographics of old white people who know real history will paint them in a bad light to their grandkids so they would rather suppress teaching it by acts of law.
Matter of fact CRT was developed by a faculty comprising multiple races

STOP LYING!

But it baffles you when people of your own race questions these things. The racist slam holds no wait.

You and WipsyEthereal are dumbfounded and can't even counter the stats. Are you going to argue against obvious US government stats like you did claiming the law legalising conditional cannibalism doesn't hold even though it's a written law?

LIE! what stats have you provided that I couldn't counter?

I just should you official evidence of Black Americans having committing the highest number of murders and robberies despite being just 14 percent of the population and on about whataboutism

Stop dribbling yourself, you showed statistics that are consistent with other statistics, the statistics show that blacks are more represented in the commiting of violent crimes as compared to population size than other races, the stats do not show that black on black violent crimes alone is more than all other violent crimes added together like you claimed so stop lying and retrace your steps! And the numbers average around 33% in total unless in your version of conservative mathematics 33% is greater than 67%

You need to be schooled in the art and science of logical debates. Everything I have stated since morning when I joined in this has been focused on one thing:

How flawed the premise of CRT is and how victimhood would always draw blacks back. Every sngle thing. Not deviated once. Al the needless epistles about issues which doesn't relate to black sociopolitical reach are only as relevant as Budaatum's need to display pseudo-sanctimony.

Lols, you claim to espouse to logical debating as an art form? year, whales can also fly I guess

I was not here since morning so please for the benefit of those of us at the back of the class, recap the flawed premise of CRT let me have your logical argument and if you may, the steps you took to arrive at it in fulfillment of your devotion to logic.
And sorry, as long as history is involved, black sociopolitical experience is logically infered

You're as smart as rusty doornail hammered to a wooden pole. Sanpipita: even your username seems like a dyslexia subtype.

yes, yes, we can tell how smart you're not! Don't blow your trumpet, let others do it for you, me most of all, convince about your smarts, let's start with this topic

DissTroy:
Dude, I registered on Nairaland in 2014 and have been active and my accounts known sinne then. Never before have I been bested in debates or e-brawls. One of the reasons for that is simple: I never debate or comment on issues I don't have a firm grasp of.

If you start a debate about crypto-trading, I'd take a backseat. I know the terms but I'm not invested in the topic. Unlike you, I'd never jump in to show off.

Aren't you the same guy who was claiming England was ruled by blacks and was confused about the age of the first homo sapiens yet I kept correcting you with evidence and links, only for you to return 4 days later?

You have the inverse proportion of Einstein's IQ!

he isa conspiracy nutcase. WispyEthereal isa racist anti white donkey.

DissTroy:
Dude, I registered on Nairaland in 2014 and have been active and my accounts known sinne then. Never before have I been bested in debates or e-brawls. One of the reasons for that is simple: I never debate or comment on issues I don't have a firm grasp of.

If you start a debate about crypto-trading, I'd take a backseat. I know the terms but I'm not invested in the topic. Unlike you, I'd never jump in to show off.

Aren't you the same guy who was claiming England was ruled by blacks and was confused about the age of the first homo sapiens yet I kept correcting you with evidence and links, only for you to return 4 days later?

You have the inverse proportion of Einstein's IQ!

you can go ad hominem on me later for all I care, yes I am the guy who was claiming England was peopled by blacks and whites or whiteness evolved around the last ice age and either violence, favourable adaptation or both resulted in them being the race that dominated Europe going forward and I cited the 10,000 year old cheddar man on whom DNA testing was done as my evidence as against your wishy washy archeological permutations but that is an argument for another day, for today we are currently on your claims on CRT and that black on black violeng crime is more than all other violent crime combined together by official government statistics.
Bring your A game on, don't dissapoint your groupie sonofcornpop

And on me having the inverse proportion of Einstein's IQ, prove it!
This is how you bamboozle your way talking big while saying nothing, face the topic, prove your lie!

WispyEthereal:
[s]OK since you asked nicely I will answer
CRT is a post graduate course that postulates that the delivery of justice via the justice system is racially biased and that it is caused by a culture that is a cascade of government policies and laws of racist origins dating back to the post slavery Jim crow era and before that the era of slavery itself, it further argues that even when some of these laws and policies have been repealed or removed, the culture it sprouted is still alive and active till date and its effect is observed in conviction and incarceration rates of blacks as compared to whites for similar crimes, the inherent bias in the unconscious presumption of guilt or innocence by juries in respect to race, the racial distribution of juries and many other factors, these few I can pluck of the top of my hat. But critically its studies requires the study of actual American history not the whitewashed version being taught in schools[/s]

Delgado - CRT tries to understand and change the social situation by exploring the organization of the society along racial lines and hierarchies and transforming it for the better. CRT emerged in the legal framework, with the progressive scholars looking past the overt racism to try and understand the systems that enable the existence of racism, especially in the legal system, and look for ways to employ the same justice system to protect civil rights.

Janel George (2021) - critical race theorists understood that while the law could be a tool used to deepen racial inequality, it also had the potential to be used as a tool for emancipation and the achievement of racial equality.

Sanpipita says its a black history class. so from your own definition and this one, Which part of the definition has to do with black history?

also what are the tenents of CRT?

sonofcornpop:
he isa conspiracy nutcase. WispyEthereal isa racist anti white donkey.

i would recommend you buy popcorn, sit down and enjoy the show but you unfortunately lack the braincells to comprehend what's afoot, so go swim with the rubber ducks in the pool till we call for you

benalvino3:
Delgado - CRT tries to understand and change the social situation by exploring the organization of the society along racial lines and hierarchies and transforming it for the better. CRT emerged in the legal framework, with the progressive scholars looking past the overt racism to try and understand the systems that enable the existence of racism, especially in the legal system, and look for ways to employ the same justice system to protect civil rights.

Janel George (2021) - critical race theorists understood that while the law could be a tool used to deepen racial inequality, it also had the potential to be used as a tool for emancipation and the achievement of racial equality.

Sanpipita says its a black history class. so from your own definition and this one, Which part of the definition has to do with black history?

also what are the tenents of CRT?

seriously are you dumb? This is a serious question because reading through what you provided and going back to what I wrote the question begs asking, how does what I wrote differ from what you provided? Or do you have comprehension issues? And also, history is the most critical part of CRT, "actual history" not the whitewashed version, so how are you proposing to divorce the teaching of history from CRT?

WispyEthereal:
[s]seriously are you dumb? This is a serious question because reading through what you provided and going back to what I wrote the question begs asking, how does what I wrote differ from what you provided? Or do you have comprehension issues? And also, history is the most critical part of CRT, "actual history" not the whitewashed version, so how are you proposing to divorce the teaching of history from CRT?[/s]

I canceled it because it has no reference. do you know who delgado is?
stop trying to be smart when you are not. There is a reason why i said from your definition and mine which part of it is talking about Black history. I am not really disagreeing with your definition, just presenting the more accurate one.

actually, it is not about "Black History" which is why i ask you to list the tenents of CRT. oya lets go.

try to use citations or reference because i know you have posted conspiracy dirts and refused to provide source for them before.

DissTroy your modus operandi is so simple I'm tempted to let you go
1. Claim to be infallible and a great repository of knowledge.
2. Start or enter an already started debate, chose the neoconservative view, bend logic and outright lie to prop that view.

3. Get caught lying, huff and puff, provide watery, weak defences and hope not to get caught a second time in act of lying to prop up a lie

4. Fail to impress, huff and puff about your self acclaimed awesomeness, your longevity, your number of kills (like that should impress me ) threaten to release the kraken


5. Still fail to impress, go to research opponents past, dredge for something to use as a weapon against said opponent, find the flimsiest, attempt to blow it up and fail, go ad hominem with it, hope it works and diverts from the fact that you lied and were caught

6. Resort to one liners thinking this is a dissing competition, starts displaying childishness

Is there anything I missed yet?

Impress sonofcornpooop! He's waiting on his idol to come blast me to silence like he promised, don't fail him

benalvino3:
[s]
I canceled it because it has no reference. do you know who delgado is?
stop trying to be smart with you are not. There is a reason why i said from your definition and mine which part of it is talking about Black history. I am not really disagreeing with your definition, just presenting the more accurate one.

actually history is not which is why i ask you to list the tenents of CRT. oya lets go.

try to use citations or reference because i know you have posted conspiracy dirts and refused to provide source for them before.[/s]

I never promised to give you a reference as you never asked for one, your question was "what do I understand to be CRT" if I remember correctly so I used my own words from my understanding of the little I have read about it so when and how the blazes did my lack of references become the main issue rather than my definition? It is interesting that you're not outrightly saying I'm wrong because you know I'm not, rather you cancel it to give the impression that I either don't know what I'm saying or what I'm saying is rubbish, then if I decide to get carried away by your trick we then switch to who or what Delgado is and why CRT should be restricted to tenets!

You're not half as smart as you think