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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 11:58am On Nov 07, 2021
jl115:
is it now?

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/barys-8x8-completes-four-year-trials-in-kazakhstan/


Detailed report showing the inefficiency of Paramount Group 8x8 in trials in Kazakhstan.



Who hides the flaws of the first Kazakhstani armored car

Kerey Latif 04.11 11:36


About which of the current generals and colonels of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan "leads by the nose" the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and members of the government, trying to hide the obvious shortcomings of expensive armored vehicles of domestic production.

Correspondents of Ulysmedia.kz conducted their own journalistic investigation into the facts of abuse by officials of the Ministry of Defense and representatives of the manufacturer. It turns out that the shortcomings of military equipment were reflected in the acts of military trials , but for some reason the leadership of the Main Command of the Ground Forces was strictly forbidden to the members of the commission to detail some of the shortcomings in the final protocol and vice versa to "vigorously praise" combat wheeled vehicles that should be adopted by the Kazakh army in the near future.

https://ulysmedia-kz.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/ulysmedia.kz/rassledovaniya/1968-taina-ispytanii-bronevika-barys-8kh8-raskryta/amp

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 12:16pm On Nov 07, 2021
Lurker4Long:

Apparently a 4-year trial covering 25 000km in various conditions isn't supposed to yield problems so that the feedback can be used to improve prototypes before going into full production.
Jane's Defence, Shephard Media, the European Defence Review and others should all close shop cos they don't know this.
the man lives for the moments where he can post something even slightly negative about South Africa grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 12:52pm On Nov 07, 2021
jl115:
the man lives for the moments where he can post something even slightly negative about South Africa grin

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4426182.html
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:14pm On Nov 07, 2021
jl115:
the man lives for the moments where he can post something even slightly negative about South Africa grin

That being said, Paramount and its Khazak partner have some questions to answer:
1) how did the Khazak version of the Marauder, go from $480 000/unit to $1,2 million?

2) the Khazak partner is supposed to be a state-owned company, yet for years there've been rumours certain politicians and generals secretly hold personal shares.

3) why did Paramount set up a Bermuda registered subsidiary to handle all business in Khazakstan?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:30am On Nov 08, 2021
Nigerian Navy SBS

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:35pm On Nov 08, 2021
Nigerian Army is the end user of 100 Dongfeng Mengshi 4x4 light armoured vehicles.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 4:38pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:
Nigerian Army is the end user of 100 Dongfeng Mengshi 4x4 light armoured vehicles.

shocked

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:40pm On Nov 08, 2021
An undisclosed African country in 2020 ordered 100 DongFeng Warrior armoured vehicles from China.

On 15 August DongFeng and Poly Technologies signed the ‘N720’ cooperation agreement and purchase letter of intent in the largest purchase contract signed by Dongfeng and Poly, Chinese media reported

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/land/land-land/unnamed-african-country-orders-100-dongfeng-vehicles/

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 4:44pm On Nov 08, 2021
Nigerian army has so far received

- 60 units of Type-89

- 100 units of Dongfeng Mengshi 4 x 4

- 100 units of CS/VP3 ( not yet delivered)

- 60 units of Legion MRAP from the UAE

- An unknown number of PF Viper and ARA MRAPs

That's more than 320 units of armoured protected vehicles for the Nigerian army.

All vehicles purchased brand new.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 5:17pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:
Nigerian army has so far received

- 60 units of Type-89

- 100 units of Dongfeng Mengshi 4 x 4

- 100 units of CS/VP3 ( not yet delivered)

- 60 units of Legion MRAP from the UAE

- An unknown number of PF Viper and ARA MRAPs

That's more than 320 units of armoured protected vehicles for the Nigerian army.

All vehicles purchased brand new.


I only hope they bought enough spares, support vehicles and trained enough personnels to be able to maintain them for a long period. The way we used the last set of Bigfoot MRAPs is quite shameful.

Also, I hope they won't fix these platforms with 12.7mm guns only. They should carry varying calibers and types of ammunitions. They should follow the lead of the Navy by fixing 40mm grenade launchers etc on some of these platforms.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RiceProducers: 6:04pm On Nov 08, 2021
Whyem15:



I only hope they bought enough spares, support vehicles and trained enough personnels to be able to maintain them for a long period. The way we used the last set of Bigfoot MRAPs is quite shameful.

Also, I hope they won't fix these platforms with 12.7mm guns only. They should carry varying calibers and types of ammunitions. They should follow the lead of the Navy by fixing 40mm grenade launchers etc on some of these platforms.

Soldiers prefer RPGs, what are you gonna do 'bout that?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:15pm On Nov 08, 2021
Whyem15:



I only hope they bought enough spares, support vehicles and trained enough personnels to be able to maintain them for a long period. The way we used the last set of Bigfoot MRAPs is quite shameful.

Also, I hope they won't fix these platforms with 12.7mm guns only. They should carry varying calibers and types of ammunitions. They should follow the lead of the Navy by fixing 40mm grenade launchers etc on some of these platforms.

I think the most important thing is most of the vehicles are from Norinco. It makes maintenance and delivery of spares slot easier.

However in a war situation, wear and tear on vehicles would be expected considering the high usage of these vehicles in combat. Unlike the Reva MRAPS, I think the CS/VP3 MRAPS we bought from china proved the test of time. I agree with your assessment on the need to ensure the availability of spares though.

To be honest, you and I know all these vehicles would be armed with 12.7mm guns primarily.

I think what I've seen from the distribution of vehicles across army formations makes sense.

The Legion MRAPs have been sent primarily to the South-West, South-East and North Central.

The Type-89 would be used primarily in the North-East and perhaps in the North-West.

We would see the CS/VP3 and any Proforce vehicles going to the North-East.

While these Mengshi 4 x 4 would be distributed evenly across the country, replacing the Otokar Cobra vehicles.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 6:57pm On Nov 08, 2021
I believe the 100 BIG FOOTS have been delivered

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:06pm On Nov 08, 2021
LTGEN:
I believe the 100 BIG FOOTS have been delivered

Confirmed!!!

100 units of CS/VP3 have been delivered to the Nigerian army.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 7:11pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:
Nigerian army has so far received

- 60 units of Type-89

- 100 units of Dongfeng Mengshi 4 x 4

- 100 units of CS/VP3 ( not yet delivered)

- 60 units of Legion MRAP from the UAE

- An unknown number of PF Viper and ARA MRAPs

That's more than 320 units of armoured protected vehicles for the Nigerian army.

All vehicles purchased brand new.
plus unknown numbers of the Ezugwu MRAPs

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:19pm On Nov 08, 2021
Toju200:
plus unknown numbers of the Ezugwu MRAPs

Yeah, I saw the Ezugwu used in the North-East battle field and in the South-East during the elections.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 7:21pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:


Confirmed!!!

100 units of CS/VP3 have been delivered to the Nigerian army.


You know what makes this more interesting, many of these hardwares were paid for with the last defence budget, the one recently approved by the senate Wil bring provide the military with more menacing capabilities.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 7:23pm On Nov 08, 2021
Toju200:
plus unknown numbers of the Ezugwu MRAPs

53 units of the Ezugwu were initially ordered. I do not know whether there was any subsequent orders.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 7:46pm On Nov 08, 2021
Whyem15:


53 units of the Ezugwu were initially ordered. I do not know whether there was any subsequent orders.
I'm sure those 53 units were additions to previous ones

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 8:25pm On Nov 08, 2021
I also hope they won't wait for these platforms to get destroyed or become non functional before they sign another deal, procurement doesn't have to be yearly, it could be every 3-5 years until all requirements are met. NA should aim very high so that at any time all requirements are catered for. They should go for large numbers in a way that they can keep the number of platforms operational constant while some are undergoing maintenance/repairs and others are being used for training.
It should not stop with protected mobility, it should be extended to tanks, IFVs, artilleries, engineering capabilities, communications, intelligence etc.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:24pm On Nov 08, 2021
Whyem15:



You know what makes this more interesting, many of these hardwares were paid for with the last defence budget, the one recently approved by the senate Wil bring provide the military with more menacing capabilities.

My problem with the military, especially the army is that, quite a number of troops display unprofessionalism unbecoming of well trained soldiers.

I hope we continue to train and retrain our soldiers enough to ensure that we get the best use out of these vehicles.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:26pm On Nov 08, 2021
Whyem15:
I also hope they won't wait for these platforms to get destroyed or become non functional before they sign another deal, procurement doesn't have to be yearly, it could be every 3-5 years until all requirements are met. NA should aim very high so that at any time all requirements are catered for. They should go for large numbers in a way that they can keep the number of platforms operational constant while some are undergoing maintenance/repairs and others are being used for training.
It should not stop with protected mobility, it should be extended to tanks, IFVs, artilleries, engineering capabilities, communications, intelligence etc.

Fully agree with this.

I think we should expect to see more Tanks, IFVs and artillery next.

More VT-4 Tanks and AFVs.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by JOSCOFELIX: 10:33pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:


Fully agree with this.

I think we should expect to see more Tanks, IFVs and artillery next.

More VT-4 Tanks and AFVs.
yes. Small, small we dey go invade U.S.A know mind me oo I don take 25 bottle of 333 this evening

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by youghs: 10:52pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:
Nigerian Army is the end user of 100 Dongfeng Mengshi 4x4 light armoured vehicles.

Why is no one talking about the RCWS overhead this APCs.
Abi na my eye dey pain me

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:55pm On Nov 08, 2021
JOSCOFELIX:
yes. Small, small we dey go invade U.S.A know mind me oo I don take 25 bottle of 333 this evening

grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:55pm On Nov 08, 2021
youghs:


Why is no one talking about the RCWS overhead this APCs.
Abi na my eye dey pain me

I don't see any RCWS.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 10:56pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:


Fully agree with this.

I think we should expect to see more Tanks, IFVs and artillery next.

More VT-4 Tanks and AFVs.
I want to see VT4 latest Q2 2022

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by youghs: 11:08pm On Nov 08, 2021
kabe1:


I don't see any RCWS.

That stuff at the top of the vehicles

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by shadowprimezero: 5:51am On Nov 09, 2021
youghs:


That stuff at the top of the vehicles

Quite possible. The Dongfeng has a weird looking skeletal RCWS so its possible thats it in its uninstalled version

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by BlackBaron: 7:13am On Nov 09, 2021
Good stuff all around. Quite a couple of hardware last few months.

What about those Innoson versions, haven't seen them in a while.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 8:06am On Nov 09, 2021
BlackBaron:
Good stuff all around. Quite a couple of hardware last few months.

What about those Innoson versions, haven't seen them in a while.
innoson usually supplies NA on a stead..
NA I guess is one their biggest patroniser

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 8:36am On Nov 09, 2021
Na should also go for a large number of upamored guntrucks for use in low threat environments and to prolong the life span of these MRAPs and APCs.

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