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Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by tamdun: 7:06pm On Nov 11, 2021
slivertongue:
It same as delegate system if not worse. Independent candidate is a better option
Olodo, all u need is membership card of the party and you'll be able to vote In the primary, now tell me, how many party members can they bribe compare to few delegates
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by aviara: 7:10pm On Nov 11, 2021
abokimallam:
I think the political parties have registers of their members. Why don’t they want their members to participate in the choice of who fly their party flags.? Rogue and fake politicians.
I am disappointed in Gov Fayemi , a learned man, who joined the others to scuttle what well meaning Nigerians support. All the Governors who are against direct primaries are against the people, because they want to be political God-fathers as well. From USA where you copied Presidential system from, is it not direct primary they do there.
Evil spirit politicians.
Party register of some political party have been compromised. So in such situation direct primaries may not reflect the wishes of the members. Both direct, indirect and consensus has worked fine in the past. I expected the national assembly to pass law to promotes transparency and integrity of the process and not limiting the option to direct primaries only.
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by adekolaelect(m): 7:10pm On Nov 11, 2021
aviara:
Bro, why are you so aggressive? Is your name Tinubu or is Tinubu your father. Everybody knows people like Lawal the senate president and Femi Gbajabiamila are working as stooges for Tinubu. I can see exposing this fact left you in severe pains
Not like that but we can not politisise everything .my interest is about how political candidacy will not be moneybags any more which can give Youth an opportunities to become political candidacy without taking too much loan in the bank for unreliable party candidacy bids.
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by aviara: 7:13pm On Nov 11, 2021
simplesearch:
Thought this was the same system adopted between Sanwolu and Ambode, whereby with threat and force of harm Sanwolu a political neophyte won the primary with landslide. Nigeria Politicians can always manipulate any system and situation to their advantage.
Tell them my brother.
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by slivertongue: 7:23pm On Nov 11, 2021
tamdun:
Olodo, all u need is membership card of the party and you'll be able to vote In the primary, now tell me, how many party members can they bribe compare to few delegates
If APGA can pay 5k & APC 4k. What is direct primaries. PDP started with same as APC so what is new? The issue ain't party primaries but the role of INEC and her workers at collation. Trust Nigerians, one person will join four parties because money must change hands. Direct primaries will solve nothing, am not deceived by the antics of the ruling elites. Uba got hundreds of thousands of votes at direct primaries but lost the election. Uba didn't do well not because APC is not loved by d people but because there was no primary. He was imposed on the people.
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by aviara: 7:27pm On Nov 11, 2021
adekolaelect:
Not like that but we can not politisise everything .my interest is about how political candidacy will not be moneybags any more which can give Youth an opportunities to become political candidacy without taking too much loan in the bank for unreliable party candidacy bids.
I get your point bro. I am not against direct primary if a political party decides to go that way as their best option. I feel direct primaries is better at ward level, local govt level and senatorial level. It may not always be feasible for presidential candidacy especially in a situation where the party has millions of members. In most cases the process will become violent. The candidate with the most thugs and deep pocket to bribe the election officials will emerge winner. We saw this in Lagos state between Ambode and Sanwo olu.
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by aviara: 7:29pm On Nov 11, 2021
slivertongue:
If APGA can pay 5k & APC 4k. What is direct primaries. PDP started with same as APC so what is new? The issue ain't party primaries but the role of INEC and her workers at collation. Trust Nigerians, one person will join four parties because money must change hands. Direct primaries will solve nothing, am not deceived by the antics of the ruling elites. Uba got hundreds of thousands of votes at direct primaries but lost the election. Uba didn't do well not because APC is not loved by d people but because there was no primary. He was imposed on the people.
Very correct sir
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by barcaboi(m): 7:53pm On Nov 11, 2021
JosephXavier:
What will be our headache now is getting Buhari to sign this piece of legislation into law

It's is really commendable

Since I saw some prominent politicians wailing especially those of APC, that I knew that this is the right step in the right direction

In case you don't understand what this means

Before, some political office holders will meat in hotel rooms and pick a candidate of their choice

Then if day breaks, they will now announce to us that the party has voted the person to run for a post

Such was the type that produced Andy Uba of Anambra state where he polled over 230k votes but couldn't get up to 45k in the actual election

Direct primaries will be like normal election where registered members will queue up in a line to Vite for the choice candidate after which the Vite will be counted and a winner declared
An APC man single handedly sponsored it; especially from Lagos. Leave the APC agenda
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by Jostoman: 8:02pm On Nov 11, 2021
Lovenorth:
Our party APC is the best in Africa
this one wants to turn himself to Alibaba with his comment grin
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by bewla(m): 8:22pm On Nov 11, 2021
JosephXavier:
What will be our headache now is getting Buhari to sign this piece of legislation into law

It's is really commendable

Since I saw some prominent politicians wailing especially those of APC, that I knew that this is the right step in the right direction

In case you don't understand what this means

Before, some political office holders will meat in hotel rooms and pick a candidate of their choice

Then if day breaks, they will now announce to us that the party has voted the person to run for a post

Such was the type that produced Andy Uba of Anambra state where he polled over 230k votes but couldn't get up to 45k in the actual election

Direct primaries will be like normal election where registered members will queue up in a line to Vite for the choice candidate after which the Vite will be counted and a winner declared
have you ever had of a Greek gift


Look am in and out don't trust them they are up to something
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by Sulybayus: 8:53pm On Nov 11, 2021
Direct primary is the best option.
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by Folahh(f): 10:31pm On Nov 11, 2021
Bimpe29:
My heart and prayers are with you and your son during this trying moment and I pray God will grant Ayomi sound recovery. It will be well with you and your family sister.
Amen and amen.
And so shall it be for you and your family ma, in Jesus name amen. We really appreciate your prayers.
Please ma, continue to keep us in your prayers because I believe that there is nothing too hard for God to do. Thank you so much ma. May God bless you always
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by EagleNest(m): 1:10am On Nov 12, 2021
For once in recent memory, something good have come out of the house of representatives. I thought they are asleep as well like the house of senates.
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by tamdun: 5:57am On Nov 12, 2021
slivertongue:
If APGA can pay 5k & APC 4k. What is direct primaries. PDP started with same as APC so what is new? The issue ain't party primaries but the role of INEC and her workers at collation. Trust Nigerians, one person will join four parties because money must change hands. Direct primaries will solve nothing, am not deceived by the antics of the ruling elites. Uba got hundreds of thousands of votes at direct primaries but lost the election. Uba didn't do well not because APC is not loved by d people but because there was no primary. He was imposed on the people.
So u are OK with few delegates imposing their chosen candidate on us? No matter how u look at it, direct primary is better, that's what they practice in usa, I think the first time directly primary took place in Nigeria was in 2019, don't expect it to be perfect right away
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by slivertongue: 11:12am On Nov 12, 2021
tamdun:
So u are OK with few delegates imposing their chosen candidate on us? No matter how u look at it, direct primary is better, that's what they practice in usa, I think the first time directly primary took place in Nigeria was in 2019, don't expect it to be perfect right away
PDP used direct primaries too in her early days before using the delegate system to choose flag bearers. I don't like both they have the same advantage & disadvantage. If any is greater it's direct. We have seen were urchins are picked up on the street & party cards given to them to vote so there is nothing new about it. Am not deceived.
The solution is independent candidature. Direct primaries doesn't address the issue of vote tampering, manipulation &under age voting. After direct primaries we've seen were urchins were also handed procured voters card to vote. Now u can say BVAS has taken care of it. But has it taken care of INEC's manipulative roles at collation centers?
Finally if electorates can be bought on election day as seen in the previous elections including the recently concluded Anambra election what makes u think that direct primaries will be a big challenge. Did I hear u say more people will turn out so buying of votes will be near impossible. Really? How did Andy Uba do his? Nigerians collect as low as five hundred on election day to vote. Some are given take away packs of less than that amount. So they can be bought. This issue is not party primaries but the main election. Direct primaries may look easy to u but the challenges are huge. In ordinary delegate primaries of a few people we have seen parallel primaries &heavy use of thugs. What do you think when all the members come out to vote, don't u foresee mayhem? APC may have used it but how good is it when it generated issues? What happened to APC Edo? Rogue elements in our political parties will use this to cause crisis. USA is better organized &has independent candidature so the two key parties have learnt to behave.

Politicians are looking for more members thus this mode of primaries. Like I said before, Andy Uba 'won' direct primaries with over two hundred thousand votes but secured less than fifty thousand votes. Ok insecurity is the answer. hmmm. Having party card don't equivalent PVC neither does it mean that party members will all turn out to vote in the main election. It doesn't also mean that party members who voted in direct primaries will vote the same candidate in the main election. Party members are easily hired & given party cards. The level of hiring depends on who controls the party. I Hope those in the legislature who want to use direct primaries to check or reduce the influence of the executive arm won't cry out tomorrow?
Is APC not having 92 state chairmen Courtesy of direct primaries?
Re: Why I Pushed For Direct Primaries ― Gbajabiamila by Bimpe29(m): 8:38am On Nov 13, 2021
Folahh:
Amen and amen.
And so shall it be for you and your family ma, in Jesus name amen. We really appreciate your prayers.
Please ma, continue to keep us in your prayers because I believe that there is nothing too hard for God to do. Thank you so much ma. May God bless you always
Don't mention my sister. It's well with us as God is always faithful.
On a lighter note, I am not a female ooo.
How is Ayomi fairing now?
Bimpe is a unisex name.
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