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How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 12:50am On Nov 14, 2021
First we have Abraham Romans 4:11
Then Jesus Christ The Everlasting Father ISAIAH 9:6
Then we have God the Father of all Ephesians 4:6
Are there other fathers spoKen of in the scriptures?
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Kobojunkie: 12:54am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:
First we have Abraham Romans 4:11
Then Jesup Christ The Everlasting Father ISAIAH 9:6
Then we have God the Father of all Ephesians 4:6
Are there other fathers spoKen of in the scriptures?
Those of you with other Father's, don't even belong to His Kingdom beginning right here on earth. undecided

8 “But you must not be called ‘Teacher.’ You are all equal as brothers and sisters. You have only one Teacher.
9 And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven.
10 And you should not be called ‘Master.’ You have only one Master, the Messiah.
11 Whoever serves you like a servant is the greatest among you.
12 People who think they are better than others will be made humble. But people who humble themselves will be made great. - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 12
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:28am On Nov 14, 2021
The only way to get the real answer is to ask yourself are you made up of three dimension if you are then God is the same way as you


Because man is the image of God

So

You can see from the Bible you are made up of
body
Soul
Spirit

You are one person yet having this three qualities that made you one man

That exactly how God is

God exists as the
The father
The son
The holy spirit

Ask all the people who say they know God if they have this place in their Bible

Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.


We have only one God just as you have only one man


Only one father Jesus

It pleases God the father to dwell in Jesus
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 1:35am On Nov 14, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Those of you with other Father's, don't even belong to His Kingdom beginning right here on earth. undecided
Isaiah 51:2 look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth. When I called him he was only one man, and I blessed him and made him many.
If you most quote from the bible, then you most understand the entire bible and not just one verse.
If you read my post, you would noticed it is lifted from the bible. Those are not my words.
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 1:38am On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:
The only way to get the real answer is to ask yourself are you made up of three dimension if you are then God is the same way as you


Because man is the image of God

So

You can see from the Bible you are made up of
body
Soul
Spirit

You are one person yet having this three qualities that made you one man

That exactly how God is

God exists as the
The father
The son
The holy spirit

Ask all the people who say they know God if they have this place in their Bible

Matthew 28:19 ►
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

New Living Translation
Therefore, go and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.


We have only one God just as you have only one man


Only one father Jesus

It pleases God the father to dwell in Jesus
I am not sure you understand the question.
Please read post again.
It was about the God the Father, Jesus Christmas and Abraham not the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:42am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

I am not sure you understand the question.
Please read post again.
It was about the God the Father, Jesus Christmas and Abraham not the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

Read what I wrote it answers all questions

Only one father Jesus
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 1:47am On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


Read what I wrote it answers all questions

Only one father Jesus
Sorry I don't understand your answer.
First, I quoted 3 verses, your answer did not explain any.
Then you talk about body, soul and spirit... this has nothing to do with my post. Then you quote a verse talking about baptism. You seem to be all over the place
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 1:51am On Nov 14, 2021
Kobojunkie:
Those of you with other Father's, don't even belong to His Kingdom beginning right here on earth. undecided
Are you saying the bible was wrong in calling Abraham the father of believers? If you are a believer, is Abraham not your father?
Don't pull up a verse you don't understand and use it to explain the entire bible.
From the verse you quoted, it says call no man on earth your father. Does that include the father that gave birth to you?
Would you deny your father because you read a verse that says call no man your father?
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:53am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

Sorry I don't understand your answer.
First, I quoted 3 verses, your answer did not explain any.
Then you talk about body, soul and spirit... this has nothing to do with my post. Then you quote a verse talking about baptism. You seem to be all over the place

When you see different kings having a meeting there will be one that is king of kings that one is the over all king which other kings call king

That how it is Jesus is the king of all kings...

Jesus is the everlasting father which means he is the only one the real father of fathers


So nothing in the universe can be compared to Jesus

Jesus is the only true father

For it pleases God the Father God the holy spirit to dwell in Jesus

Colossians 1:19 ►
For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

New Living Translation
For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ,

English Standard Version
For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell,
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 1:59am On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


When you see different kings having a meeting there will be one that is kings of kings that one is the over all king which other kings call king

That how it is Jesus is the king of all kings...

Jesus is the everlasting father which means he is the only one the real father of fathers


So nothing in the universe can be compared to Jesus

Jesus is the only true father

For it pleases God the Father God the holy spirit to dwell in Jesus

Colossians 1:19 ►
For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

New Living Translation
For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ,

English Standard Version
For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell,
You obviously did not comprehend the question. Anyway thanks for your views they are quite interesting maybe we can discuss them.
Let me ask you, does Jesus have a father?
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Kobojunkie: 2:06am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

1. Are you saying the bible was wrong in calling Abraham the father of believers? If you are a believer, is Abraham not your father?
Don't pull up a verse you don't understand and use it to explain the entire bible.
2. From the verse you quoted, it says call no man on earth your father. Does that include the father that gave birth to you?
3. Would you deny your father because you read a verse that says call no man your father?
1.Abraham is Father only to those who are descended from him. Gentiles are not of Abraham's family- we simply benefit from God's plan for Abraham as stated in Genesis 12 undecided

2. According to Jesus Christ, the New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God, in the Kingdom of God, there is only one Father- Matthew 12 vs 46-50 and Luke 8 vs 19-21. undecided

3. So long as it has to do with the Kingdom of God, I only have one Father and He is God in Heaven - I am a Son of God. undecided
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Kobojunkie: 2:10am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

Isaiah 51:2 look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth. When I called him he was only one man, and I blessed him and made him many.
If you most quote from the bible, then you most understand the entire bible and not just one verse.
If you read my post, you would noticed it is lifted from the bible. Those are not my words.
Again, Those of you with other Father's, don't even belong to His Kingdom beginning right here on earth. undecided

8 “But you must not be called ‘Teacher.’ You are all equal as brothers and sisters. You have only one Teacher.
9 And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven.
10 And you should not be called ‘Master.’ You have only one Master, the Messiah.
11 Whoever serves you like a servant is the greatest among you.
12 People who think they are better than others will be made humble. But people who humble themselves will be made great. - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 12
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:00am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

You obviously did not comprehend the question. Anyway thanks for your views they are quite interesting maybe we can discuss them.
Let me ask you, does Jesus have a father?


Now Jesus and the father are one
When you see Jesus you have seen the father

Now
You are finding it hard to understand

Now God the Father

Which is Jesus father is saying to you that he is pleased to live inside Jesus so that you can call Jesus everlasting father

I hope you now understand
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 8:29am On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:



Now Jesus and the father are one
When you see Jesus you have seen the father

Now
You are finding it hard to understand

Now God the Father

Which is Jesus father is saying to you that he is pleased to live inside Jesus so that you can call Jesus everlasting father

I hope you now understand
Please who is the father of Jesus Christ?
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 8:40am On Nov 14, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1.Abraham is Father only to those who are descended from him. Gentiles are not of Abraham's family- we simply benefit from God's plan for Abraham as stated in Genesis 12 undecided

2. According to Jesus Christ, the New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God, in the Kingdom of God, there is only one Father- Matthew 12 vs 46-50 and Luke 8 vs 19-21. undecided

3. So long as it has to do with the Kingdom of God, I only have one Father and He is God in Heaven - I am a Son of God. undecided
As I said earlier you really need to read the entire bible. Abraham is not only the father of his descendants, he is the father of all righteous. Please read the scripture before making arguments
Gal 3.29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Romans 4.11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them.
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And he is also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also walk in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by AntiChristian: 8:45am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

Please who is the father of Jesus Christ?

Lovely question.

Who was Jesus praying to?

Who was Jesus referring to as his father in heaven?

In my father's mansion...

My Lord why have you forsaken me?

This is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased!

Who is Jesus father? Who is his Lord?

Bishopkingsley

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Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:39am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

Please who is the father of Jesus Christ?

I don't think you read what God says since you can't even read what I wrote
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:41am On Nov 14, 2021
AntiChristian:


Lovely question.

Who was Jesus praying to?

Who was Jesus referring to as his father in heaven?

In my father's mansion...

My Lord why have you forsaken me?

This is my beloved son in whom I'm well pleased!

Who is Jesus father? Who is his Lord?

Bishopkingsley

God the Father

Is Jesus father now

AntiChristian as you are now your soul and spirit is living inside you.

That is how God the Father and God the holy spirit is living inside Jesus

Hope you now understand it
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 11:42am On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


I don't think you read what God says since you can't even read what I wrote
I read what you wrote and don't compare yourself to God.
I understand you are not comfortable answering my simple question.
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:53am On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

I read what you wrote and don't compare yourself to God.
I understand you are not comfortable answering my simple question.


Jesus said if you refuse to listen to us you won't listen to God that why I said you don't read what God says

I answered all the questions you asked

Now let me screen shot the vital answer to prove to all that you refuse to read it

Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:54am On Nov 14, 2021
God the Father is the father of Jesus


So that father of Jesus which is God the Father is saying he is happy to be inside Jesus
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 12:34pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:



Jesus said if you refuse to listen to us you won't listen to God that why I said you don't read what God says

I answered all the questions you asked

Now let me screen shot the vital answer to prove to all that you refuse to read it


You clearly do not understand the question. And it's clear I can't explain it to you any better.
Anyway thanks for your contribution.
The question was who is the father of Jesus Christ. But you obviously don't get it.
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 12:38pm On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

You clearly do not understand the question. And it's clear I can't explain it to you any better.
Anyway thanks for your contribution.
The question was who is the father of Jesus Christ. But you obviously don't get it.

It so strange that even with me telling you over five times that the father of Jesus Christ is
God the Father

Yet your still refusing to read it well Bible already told us some will be seeing it and never understanding it
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 12:42pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


It so strange that even with me telling you over five times that the father of Jesus Christ is
God the Father

Yet your still refusing to read it well Bible already told us some will be seeing it and never understanding it
This is the first time you are answering the simple question
Thanks for the answer now we can move on.
So if Christ has a father, it means your argument is totally wrong
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 12:45pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


It so strange that even with me telling you over five times that the father of Jesus Christ is
God the Father

Yet your still refusing to read it well Bible already told us some will be seeing it and never understanding it
You said and I quote "
Jesus is the everlasting father which means he is the only one the real father of fathers[color=#770077][/color]"
If he has a father, he can't be the father of father's or the only one real father. Your logic is plainly wrong
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 12:52pm On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

You said and I quote "
Jesus is the everlasting father which means he is the only one the real father of fathers[color=#770077][/color]"
If he has a father, he can't be the father of father's or the only one real father. Your logic is plainly wrong

There is no difference between the son and the father


Just like there is no difference between your soul and your physical brain

The father of Jesus does not mean that he created Jesus no it is a title just like your body is a title and your soul is a title

The title of a name is used to explain what the name represents it does not mean that the other name is lesser in value


God the Father is the father of Jesus but Jesus is also called God the son so he is also God almighty
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 1:00pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


There is no difference between the son and the father


Just like there is no difference between your soul and your physical brain

The father of Jesus does not mean that he created Jesus no it is a title just like your body is a title and your soul is a title

The title of a name is used to explain what the name represents it does not mean that the other name is lesser in value


God the Father is the father of Jesus but Jesus is also called God the son so he is also God almighty

So your point is, the son is the father and the father is the son.
Jesus Christ is the same person as his Father is that your point?
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 1:07pm On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

So your point is, the son is the father and the father is the son.
Jesus Christ is the same person as his Father is that your point?

That is not my point

The only way you can understand it is that you have a soul and a spirit living inside you

This two qualities lives inside your body

Now Your made up of
body
Soul
Spirit

This three qualities is what makes you a complete human being yet only your soul is still you and only your spirit is still you but your soul is not your body and it not your spirit


Now God the Father is not Jesus but God the Father is living inside Jesus just like your soul is living inside your body
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 2:10pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


That is not my point

The only way you can understand it is that you have a soul and a spirit living inside you

This two qualities lives inside your body

Now Your made up of
body
Soul
Spirit

This three qualities is what makes you a complete human being yet only your soul is still you and only your spirit is still you but your soul is not your body and it not your spirit


Now God the Father is not Jesus but God the Father is living inside Jesus just like your soul is living inside your body

Sir I am not sure even you understand your point. At one time, you say they are the same and now you say they are not the same.

You say the Father lives in the son. I have another question for you. Is Jesus Christ heaven?
Because in his prayer, he said our Father who art in heaven.. So if the father is in him, then he must be heaven.
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 2:28pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


That is not my point

The only way you can understand it is that you have a soul and a spirit living inside you

This two qualities lives inside your body

Now Your made up of
body
Soul
Spirit

This three qualities is what makes you a complete human being yet only your soul is still you and only your spirit is still you but your soul is not your body and it not your spirit


Now God the Father is not Jesus but God the Father is living inside Jesus just like your soul is living inside your body

You talk about the father being inside Jesup but Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
By your argument, this means you are also the father since the spirit of God dwells in you.
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by Bishopkingsley(m): 2:28pm On Nov 14, 2021
tctrills:

Sir I am not sure even you understand your point. At one time, you say they are the same and now you say they are not the same.

You say the Father lives in the son. I have another question for you. Is Jesus Christ heaven?
Because in his prayer, he said our Father who art in heaven.. So if the father is in him, then he must be heaven.

I have never said they are the same

What I said is Jesus is in the father and the father is in Jesus

You can screen shot the place you claim I said they are the same


Now to your other questions

tctrills:



. I have another question for you. Is Jesus Christ heaven?
Because in his prayer, he said our Father who art in heaven.. So if the father is in him, then he must be heaven



Now Jesus Christ is both man and Almighty God

Now Almighty God has the ability to be in heaven and to be on earth at the same time

In fact God has the power to be in every place at the same time

So that it why it is not a new thing when Jesus who is God and man was on earth praying to God in heaven

Now as a man the Bible commands every one to pray to God in heaven that is why because Jesus is both God and man so as a man that he is he will pray to God in heaven

Remember God has the power and ability to be in any place at the same time so God the son as a man can pray to God the Father in heaven

So the father is living in Jesus and at the same time living in heaven....
Do you now see it
Re: How Many Fathers Would We Have In Heaven by tctrills: 2:31pm On Nov 14, 2021
Bishopkingsley:


I have never said they are the same

What I said is Jesus is in the father and the father is in Jesus

You can screen shot the place you claim I said they are the same


Now to your other questions



Now Jesus Christ is both man and Almighty God

Now Almighty God has the ability to be in heaven and to be on earth at the same time

In fact God has the power to be in every place at the same time

So that it why it is not a new thing when Jesus who is God and man was on earth praying to God in heaven

Now as a man the Bible commands every one to pray to God in heaven that is why because Jesus is both God and man so as a man that he is he will pray to God in heaven

Remember God has the power and ability to be in any place at the same time so God the son as a man can pray to God the Father in heaven

So the father is living in Jesus and at the same time living in heaven....
Do you now see it

Are you sure you comprehend your own words? You said Jesus is in the father and the father is in Jesus.. but now you say they are not the same... you need to make up your mind on your beliefs

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