₦airaland Forum

SaintBishop:
[s]So what about the non igbos in the south east?
I'm talking about the likes of
Idoma and Wawa people in Enugu?
The Igalas people in Anambra?
The cross Rivers people in Ebony?
The ijaws in imo?
The Akwa iboms in Abia?
What makes you think that other tribe will allow you to add their people or their lands into your Biafra?[/s]

Ekealterego:
I think the problem might not be unrelated to the fact that in the past, the people who spoke the "Yoruba" language were regarded as the "Akus" (From "Eku" because of their usual way of greeting).
This is before the creation of national and state boundaries.

Then, Ijebus (Jebous), Egbas, etc were regarded as separate from yorubas but under "Akus". Yoruba was the most numerous of all the "Akus"...
However, the lazy missionaries and subsequent colonialist just grouped all of them as "Yoruba".

Most groups like the Ijebus and Egbas rebelled against the Yoruba tag seriously for a very long time... I guess now, they are not as hostile towards the tag as in the past.

I can imagine why the Okuns will rebel against the Yoruba tag.

BKayy:
You have the idea. Infact you are close but let me give you the full gist.
"onuku" came about as the way the Igala migrants, who are farmers at that time were calling themselves while romancing.
It is a corruption of the word "Oleku" which means "my love" in Igala language.

Like the old men explained to me. Such stupid way of expressing love or behaviour where the man will be behaving like someone lacking basic reasoning and be calling the other Oleku was totally strange to Ndigbo so they use the word to describe stupidity or someone with low reasoning.

Ndigbo never considered Igala as equal, even today. So all those spartan invasion stories are lies. Total fallacy. They never happened.

OfoIgbo:
Just to shed a little more light.

1. Onuku has been explained
2. Onoja nwa Oboli (Onoja the son of Oboli). According to UMU NRI tales, Onoja was the last son of Eri who migrated to Idah. As the last son, obviously his elder brothers which included Nri-Menri, Agulu and the others observed him in n his formative years when he acted silly, like lastborns do. The expression ONOJA NWA OBOLI, also became a way of saying that someone is silly or demented. Any UMU NRI man above the age of 70 is conversant with that expression. But it is phasing out in preference for the more widely used ONUKU.

But at some point, the Igalas started twisting this tale to the extent that they came up with a more militaristic view of ONOJA

Valkrie:
Igbos are there own problem ..every deluded person wants to write history that is pleasant to his ears....!! Igala influence extended upto onitsha and that's a fact...I even read some place here where someone wrote igbos don't consider themselves equals with the igalas....I'm no igala myself but happened to do some deep field work there....all these stories been paraded here are just ridiculous....!! Yes there are intermarriage between the brothers communities but did those in kogi they claimed to be igbo ever refer to themselves as igbos...? You can't forcefully co-opt somebody into your enthinicity when the person thinks otherwise...!! The truth is the truth no matter what anybody say here...all we need in this country is peace and harmony instead of try hard to paint yourself superior to others....!! There nothing the igbo can do that any other tribes in this country can't do...!! What drive the igbo to think that they are smarter than other tribes is quest for wealth and greed to show off and oppress others which is lacking in other tribes cos they don't really care....simple...!! Look at what is happening in their nollywood drama industry and they want everybody to accept it as Nigerians film industry....!!

OfoIgbo:
Just to shed a little more light.

1. Onuku has been explained
2. Onoja nwa Oboli (Onoja the son of Oboli). According to UMU NRI tales, Onoja was the last son of Eri who migrated to Idah. Oboli was Eri's second wife. As the last son, obviously his elder brothers which included Nri-Menri, Agulu and the others observed him in n his formative years when he acted silly, like lastborns do. The expression ONOJA NWA OBOLI, also became a way of saying that someone is silly or demented. Any UMU NRI man above the age of 70 is conversant with that expression. But it is phasing out in preference for the more widely used ONUKU.

But at some point, the Igalas started twisting this tale to the extent that they came up with a more militaristic view of ONOJA

As I wrote earlier on, Oboli was Eri's second wife, and Nneamaku was Eri's first wife

Igboid
Bkayy

Ekealterego:
I like how you analysed the etymology of the word, "oluku/Onuku".
Many adjectives in Igbo for attributing to the character of a person or group of people are usually derived from the character that best symbolises a particular people. Sometimes, it could even be a single event.

An example is "Okomoko"... Okomoko is a place/people in Etche and I think one other mmoghu (Umon) group.

Akunakuna (Akwunakwuna) are found close to Abia (Biase), although they are many of them in Cameroon etc.

Even in Abia state, they use to use, "onye Mbieri" when you do a childish act, but that's is going out of fashion.

Ekealterego:
They are Ohaobu Ndoki, many of them claim Abia state and even run for positions in Abia state... 90% of them never agreed to the Akwa-Ibom tag and will never tell you they are from Akwa-Ibom, they will rather say they are from Abia state.

There is also an extention from the Arochukwu side too but I think it is just as a result of the expansion of the town.

However, there are villages like Ndi Okoro and Nkalu, deep inside Akwa Ibom

I think there are more Igbos in Cross River than Akwa-Ibom.

Christistruth00:


I hear there are Indigenous Yoruba Communities in Southern Niger State just after Jebba

Only Problem is the Yoruba Warlords told them over 150 years ago that if they are not willing

to relocate to the Jebba Area then they are on their own because the Niger River was where the Border

was at and they should just learn to live in Peace with the Nupe People if they were not moving

Igboid:
MNK didn't do any thing.
He was busy telling you that Igbo and Igala are one, because their women tie two pieces of cloth.
While MnK was busy claiming Igala are Biafrans, Igalas were busy working hard to snuff out any Igbo claim to indigenous existence in Kogi State.
Your MnK did nothing about it, because he was more interested in licking minorities ass to have them accept his misguided Multiethnic BIAFRA.

You people should leave MNK out of this.

We are talking about uniting Igbo speaking groups to form one indivisible Republic of Igboland, and this means we must battle hard with Igalas, Binis and Ijaws, all of who have laid claim to parts of Igbo speaking realm at the periphery of Igbo hinterland with ambitious intents of de-Igbonizing the people, turning them against us in SE and claiming them and their lands for themselves

Our mission is not same with those of your MNK who was more interested in pampering these expansionist minorities while they appropriate parts of Igbo speaking groups for themselves.
Our war is both psychological and tactical.

Don't get things twisted.
MNK efforts are not to be ignored, but he wasn't without faults, and what we are treating in this thread is his major fault, he left key issues and was chasing shadows.

Charity must begin at home.
Republic of Igboland must be first and foremost well established and all Invaders nullified before we can speak of reaching out to friendly minorities for alliance.

A man whose house is on fire cannot be chasing rats.

GodIsBiafran:
SE is 100% Igbo.

Igboid:
They wouldn't do anything, they can only bark.

This is my issue with Ndiigbo. We are too soft.
The few Igala people in Anambra, we respect them and accord them their independent status. We even have news in Igala in Anambra state radio station to carry them along, despite the fact that these lots came to our land via invasion by the Igala general known in history as General Ajida.
We forgave them and accepted their descendants.

But Igala people don't want the Igbos indigenous to Kogi East to be recognized as independent indigenous ethnicity in the state.
They want them to be forcefully tagged as Igala.
Igala is a minority and not up to 1/20th of Igbo population, but they are this expansionist in nature.
Imagine if they had Igbo numbers and we had theirs?

We are not doing well, I swear.

BKayy:
And today they are claiming the same Nzam.
Honestly I've told people here before and will do it again. There is no single Igala village or community in Anambra.
None.
The whole land in Anambra belongs to Ndigbo.

We kept on entertaining lies and with time, they started passing as truth.

Rodwave:
There is no Igala people in Anambra. What we have is Igbo people that speak Igala as second language.

FantasyHub:
So who r we trying to please by having igala broadcast on Anambra broadcasting service?

Are we now that soft?

Igboid:
That's our Political correctness for you. The same way an Ijaw man GEJ became "our son". We are a gift that keeps giving. All man rushing to take turns.

Igboid:
That's our Political correctness for you.
The same way an Ijaw man GEJ became "our son".
We are a gift that keeps giving. All man rushing to take turns.

Igboid:
Many Nupe people migrated into Yorubaland and were Yorubanized.
I once read of the Tapas (Nupe) of Lagos.
Their ancestors were Nupe, but the people are currently Yoruba and speak Yoruba as mother tongue, they are also mostly Muslims like their Nupe people.
I think Nupes played big role in Islam spread in Yorubaland.

abeeee:
Just as all lands in kogi(those you say are IBO's ) are for the igalas

SlayerForever:
Please ndị b'anyi as I had guessed correctly the enemies are now coming for our dear brother Ogbonna Okoro for exposing the existence of the Igbo communities of Kogi state which span over 3 LGAs of Ofu, Igalamela-Odolu and Ibaji. We should as a matter of urgency rally round our brother at this time.

Quickly head to his Facebook wall https://www.facebook.com/kamma.uwamgbede and follow everything happening. Onye ọ bụla mụrụanya.

SaintBishop:
[s]Let me break it down for you so that you will understand. There are no igbos in Baysela,not even a single soul, so this your land grabbing tendency will not,can not work, cause none of Ijaws lands will be given to Igbo people to form your fairy tale Biafra.[/s]

Igboid:
There is.https://www.legit.ng/1160049-governor-obiano-appoints-igala-man-commissioner-anambra-photos.html

But they are very small.
And are at the border of Anambra and Kogi.

Rodwave:
They only speak Igala as second language. No Igala in Anambra state

SlayerForever:
So if there are no indigenous Igala why does ANSG recognize Igala in the state?

Rodwave:
It is simply because a tiny percentage of the the population speak Igala as their second language. How many times will I say this?

SlayerForever:
So if there are no indigenous Igala why does ANSG recognize Igala in the state?

FantasyHub:
So who r we trying to please by having igala broadcast on Anambra broadcasting service?

Are we now that soft?

Pass11:
I was told the same thing by one top government official, you're very correct.

Rodwave:
Exactly, that why ABS use to broadcast news in that language. It is called 'Igala mewa'