RiceProducers:


We don't need HESCO bags.

Actually, we do.

Toju200:
He'll die

A painful death...

Odunayaw:
How many days before this one goes into the ground

He's just a deputy. Let's say within 30 days

Ablemax:





Whenbi first saw the news I thought maybe it's a mistake that NA lost a brigadier general.......hmmm


A whole general....

Hmmmmm I don’t think people understand the rank of a Brigadier General. Here in my town Brigade when our military General comes outside his quarters if you see the fierce looking Giant Soldiers guarding him Na die.

Sometimes I’ll be like haba it ain’t necessary for him to move with guards inside the military brigade that is already well secured.

Even when the Brigadier General is joking with some Majors and Lt.Col, these guards are still watching as if even soldiers are not to be trusted.

It’s well shaaa.

RiceProducers:


We don't need HESCO bags.

oh Yes we do. HESCO is part of the solution to build better FOBs.

ugo4u:


It's very clear our military needs help but some idiotic self deluding fellows keep decieving themselves. They think calling for assistance means calling the Military useless, even the US with all its resources would hardly go into any war w/o alliance(s) talkmore of Nigeria that is still struggling to consistently spend $1bn yearly solely for procurements/upgrades. Is it not 2 weeks ago COAS was complaining bitterly about the slashing of army's budget yet we shouldn't seek for help anywhere we could. Even soldiers on ground will tell you they will welcome the idea of getting reinforcement from regional blocs even if it means them holding the fort along border towns.
As for the ewures shouting that we only amplify bad news, so we should keep quiet when soldiers die because they're not human beings with families. In the US death or casualties of soldiers can bring a gov't down but in Nigeria we should hush it all up and amplify BHT casualties as if the lives of those renegades equates to that of soldiers.
Well!!! The cycle continues..

Nigerian military only needs money.
The money required does not even break the bank.
The resources in terms of men required, Nigeria has it in orders of magnitudes more than many African countries combined.

Most people calling for outside help in Nigeria come from "trading" backgrounds. Well, sorry war is not okirika market stuff. If your brain can't process higher stuff then no need for comments.

Let me shove the map of Africa in your face and ask you to choose where the "men" to fight will come from.
Ethiopia is being destroyed as we speak

Southern African countries are bogged down in Mozambique and great Lakes issues.

Chadian Army is less than 30,000 men.

Niger Republic Army is so small, it should be illegal - less than 12,000 men

Cameroon Army is also very small.

All other West African countries are fighting radical Islamic terrorists.

Nigeria has demonstrated the capacity to train 8000 men in six months.

Nigeria will fix its security issues. You guys should face your second hand clothes business.

SuperSixSeven:


oh Yes we do. HESCO is part of the solution to build better FOBs.

Trenching machines, military bulldozers, prefab concrete barriers. These three are to be provided by Army engineering Corps.

A few UGVs and 20mm gun emplacements activated remotely.

HESCO barrier is about $500 for 15ft if you add cost of sand and equipment hired to handle sand.

Using bulldozers to heap up sand into high dunes and digging trenches using army engineers equipment achieves better at a fraction of cost.

Odunayaw:
Civil war was a conventional war

The Nigerian Civil War, was largely a conventional war but in many cases and different theatres of the war, the rebel Biafran Army employed guerilla tactics to slow down Federal Army advance.
In Owerri, Port-harcourt, Onitsha and Enugu. Guerilla tactics were employed. I know this because I studied pattern of attack by the Biafran S brigade which was under the Command of Biafran, Colonel - Timothy Onuwatuegwu and also the Commandos, under Colonel Rolf Steiner and Taffy Williams.

Guerilla attacks were launched at Enugu in order to disrupt Mig 15 and Mig 17 operating from the Enugu Airport. Guerrilla attacks were launched in the Calabar sector too to disrupt Nigerian Army supply lines. In the long war of attrition in the Abagana/Onitsha Sector, Biafran rebel troops under Colonel Achuzie employed the most "unorthodox" forms of battle against the Federal Army.
There are a lot more.

SamuelAnyawu:


Hmmmmm I don’t think people understand the rank of a Brigadier General. Here in my town Brigade when our military General comes outside his quarters if you see the fierce looking Giant Soldiers guarding him Na die.

Sometimes I’ll be like haba it ain’t necessary for him to move with guards inside the military brigade that is already well secured.

Even when the Brigadier General is joking with some Majors and Lt.Col, these guards are still watching as if even soldiers are not to be trusted.

It’s well shaaa.

Na wa o


The matter tire me

Toju200:
He'll die

He's moving up the food chain to his death, switching leadership positions quickly like this. These guys are losing human capital at a ridiculous pace.

We'll soon have 15-year-olds as Shura council members in no time

ugo4u:


It's very clear our military needs help but some idiotic self deluding fellows keep decieving themselves. They think calling for assistance means calling the Military useless, even the US with all its resources would hardly go into any war w/o alliance(s) talkmore of Nigeria that is still struggling to consistently spend $1bn yearly solely for procurements/upgrades. Is it not 2 weeks ago COAS was complaining bitterly about the slashing of army's budget yet we shouldn't seek for help anywhere we could. Even soldiers on ground will tell you they will welcome the idea of getting reinforcement from regional blocs even if it means them holding the fort along border towns.
As for the ewures shouting that we only amplify bad news, so we should keep quiet when soldiers die because they're not human beings with families. In the US death or casualties of noncommissioned- soldiers can bring a gov't down talkmore of an army General but in Nigeria we should hush it all up and amplify BHT casualties as if the lives of those renegades equates to that of soldiers. We should keep quiet and not shout so that gov't will see the need to fund the military as it should putting in mind that we are literally the mouth piece of these soldiers as they can't speak for themselves.
Well!!! The cycle continues..

If truly our troops need help, i do think we might require an American base or British base, in fact Chinese base. Then we ruin and become another Afghanistan.

I do remember Buhari telling AFRICOM to bring a base in Nigeria/West Africa. Maybe he's already buying this idea.

In my honest opinion, the Nigerian armed forces requires TOTAL reorganisation. I do watch budget defenses by different MDAs in the National Assembly. Those lawmakers don't really know what's happening except for a few.
Nigeria does not need foreign intervention. We all know the solution to our problems. Is not like we've tried all local solutions and failed. It's that, we aren't even trying to solve the issue. The Nigerian problem is interwoven between all sectors. A failure of a sector, affects the other.

The Nigerian Armed forces need more funding. 10 billion dollars a year would change the course of this war because each element of the military would be made better. We need to Reorganize our Paramilitary. Many civil defence peeps don't know their purpose.

Stormtrooper11:


If truly our troops need help, i do think we might require an American base or British base, in fact Chinese base. Then we ruin and become another Afghanistan.

I do remember Buhari telling AFRICOM to bring a base in Nigeria/West Africa. Maybe he's already buying this idea.

In my honest opinion, the Nigerian armed forces requires TOTAL reorganisation. I do watch budget defenses by different MDAs in the National Assembly. Those lawmakers don't really know what's happening except for a few.
Nigeria does not need foreign intervention. We all know the solution to our problems. Is not like we've tried all local solutions and failed. It's that, we aren't even trying to solve the issue. The Nigerian problem is interwoven between all sectors. A failure of a sector, affects the other.

The Nigerian Armed forces need more funding. 10 billion dollars a year would change the course of this war because each element of the military would be made better. We need to Reorganize our Paramilitary. Many civil defence peeps don't know their purpose.

so they would embezzle $9.5bln,noooo

Let them kill or weaken corruption first b4 they begin spending such large amount of money.

RiceProducers:


Trenching machines, military bulldozers, prefab concrete barriers. These three are to be provided by Army engineering Corps.

A few UGVs and 20mm gun emplacements activated remotely.

The simplicity of HESCO is the key.
The logistic needs are small: No Trench digging, no transport of raw materials or prefab concrete barriers needed. You just fill the HESCO bags with local soil and build a fortification that can even withstand explosives like RPGs. A clear advantage in every regards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RVuGImIww

giles14:
so they would embezzle $9.5bln,noooo

Let them kill or weaken corruption first b4 they begin spending such large amount of money.

You see. This is exactly what I meant when I said the Nigerian problem is interwoven.

Lack of education and illiteracy causes insurgency and terrorism.
We deploy troops to secure the country. Troops are Ill-equipped because of corruption. Corruption thrives because of weak laws and poor judicial system. We've poor judges and judiciary because of law standards of living and poor training and ethics. We've poor standards of living because of Bad economy and detrimental policies.

That's how the Nigerian problem is. It's is in a deep rot. In a cycle.

RiceProducers:


It is other African countries that will save the lives of our soldiers.
220m Nigerians and another African country of 10m people would have to send 2000 men to help you fight Boko Haram of less than 10,000 highly mobile fighters.

Please drop your phone or laptop and think.

It is because young people think like this in Nigeria that I will never vote anyone below 45 years of age ağain for a long time.

You people are not on earth to live life.

. 220m yen yen. Sitting comfortably in your house spitting trash. How about you go join the army and be posted to Lake chad area.

100% correct on the cycle

yoged:
. 220m yen yen. Sitting comfortably in your house spitting trash. How about you go join the army and be posted to Lake chad area.

This is the question I wanted to direct at you and others saying Nigeria should ask for AU troops.
I am already past conscription and recruitment age but how can someone with a functioning brain suggest Nigeria should ask for help from other African countries?

Stormtrooper11:


If truly our troops need help, i do think we might require an American base or British base, in fact Chinese base. Then we ruin and become another Afghanistan.

I do remember Buhari telling AFRICOM to bring a base in Nigeria/West Africa. Maybe he's already buying this idea.

In my honest opinion, the Nigerian armed forces requires TOTAL reorganisation. I do watch budget defenses by different MDAs in the National Assembly. Those lawmakers don't really know what's happening except for a few.
Nigeria does not need foreign intervention. We all know the solution to our problems. Is not like we've tried all local solutions and failed. It's that, we aren't even trying to solve the issue. The Nigerian problem is interwoven between all sectors. A failure of a sector, affects the other.

The Nigerian Armed forces need more funding. 10 billion dollars a year would change the course of this war because each element of the military would be made better. We need to Reorganize our Paramilitary. Many civil defence peeps don't know their purpose.

How long are we gonna wait or make politicians see the need to fund the military especially the Army? Exploring other options shouldn't be out of the table, it's a matter of national security. It is useless recruiting/training thousands into the military w/o plan to properly cater for their welfare and equipments. The edge Israel have over Arab nations is nothing but cutting edge technology and equipments not really numbers though if we have both it would be excellent.
I won't be surprised if we later get to hear that the Brig.Gen that was KIA was going for that reinforcement in a convoy of Toyota Hilux.

RiceProducers:


This is the question I wanted to direct at you and others saying Nigeria should ask for AU troops.
I am already past conscription and recruitment age but how can someone with a functioning brain suggest Nigeria should ask for help from other African countries?

why can't we ask for help ? What's special about this Country. Seems you are still drowned in the past glory. Haven't we be assisted by Cameroon, chad before. So wtf are you talking about . if youve passed the age .I'm sure you have siblings , or relatives .

If a Brigadier General is in active front line duty he is likely to be a casualty as much as any regular Joe. This is why this rank is a General officer and is higher in the chain.

Bullets don't know rank. It won't miss because you're a "whole general".

Examples;
Maj Gen Harold Greene KIA in the Afghan war
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28669943

Col. William Wood
https://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-guard2nov02-story.html
Not even touching the Vietnam war

yoged:
why can't we ask for help ? What's special about this Country. Seems you are still drowned in the past glory. Haven't we be assisted by Cameroon, chad before. So wtf are you talking about . if youve passed the age .I'm sure you have siblings , or relatives .

What exactly do you think we need assistance for

ugo4u:
I no understand this kind press release abi ISWAP/BHT are now in possession of Fighter aircrafts? As stated in the last sentence of the second paragraph.
Obviously that press release was don in a hurry we need to do better with our media game na this kind info propagandist and co go grab use am trend hashtags.

Replace destroyed with deployed

ugo4u:

How long are we gonna wait or make politicians see the need to fund the military especially the Army? Exploring other options shouldn't be out of the table, it's a matter of national security. It is useless recruiting/training thousands into the military w/o plan to properly cater for their welfare and equipments. The edge Israel have over Arab nations is nothing but cutting edge technology and equipments not really numbers though if we have both it would be excellent.
I won't be surprised if we later get to hear that the Brig.Gen that was KIA was going for that reinforcement in a convoy of Toyota Hilux.

Sir, you're an old member in this thread. Personally, I respect your views on issues. You and I know that hundreds of ideas had been dropped on this thread by different members over the years on how best we can solve the Nigerian insecurity issue. I remember we lost a Colonel last year in an ambush. He was in a guntruck.
Nigeria as it is today is not serious to tackle this issues. The politicians are jokers. No amount of foreign troops can stabilize this country for us, the way we want. It is best we come together to solve this problem.
Some politicians know the right thing to do,others are totally clueless. Recently, President Buhari was in Paris seeking for investors. Some North West governors were with him . Is it your bandits infested communities you would bring investors to
That says it all. We aren't ready to solve this problem. Most of these issues are caused by government negligence and sponsors in the government itself. The terrorism situation in Nigeria has never been religious. It is politically influenced. Everything is politics.

yoged:
why can't we ask for help ? What's special about this Country. Seems you are still drowned in the past glory. Haven't we be assisted by Cameroon, chad before. So wtf are you talking about . if youve passed the age .I'm sure you have siblings , or relatives .

Which African country are we gonna ask for help from With the look of things, only Egypt and Algeria can be invited to Nigeria
Nigerians, especially the ones in the Southern parts would scream Islamization. Lol. Funny country.
The biggest mistake we would do is to invite the Americans or any other Big world Power. They would prolong this damn war. The truth is, nobody understands this war like us. Nobody understands the technicalities of our insecurity like us, the Nigerians.

Odunayaw:
This is one reason I've lost interest in this thread.

Who destroyed the psyche of so much like this. One is already calling on AU. 2000+ pages of the same emotional wailings and trite.

I give up. Telegram is much better

Boss, no be the same pple dey telegram.

Stormtrooper11:

He's just a deputy. Let's say within 30 days

And if he stays close to the amir , It would be much more earlier

Been a while I witnessed such intense but fine argument been provided by some notable contributors here ... Well done lads

Can just set aside emotional takes and analyse situations with common sense.

And if you have no knowledge about warfare leave it for those that know instead of wasting pages for jargons.

I no know where Una learn say bullet or IEDs dey discriminate in an ambush based on ranks that a brigadier leading a reinforcement cannot be killed.

RiceProducers:


We don't need HESCO bags.

Wow amazing the depth of understanding you have and appreciation. Particularly because you have been here for some time and you still think like this.

BEWILDERED.

Stormtrooper11:


Which African country are we gonna ask for help from With the look of things, only Egypt and Algeria can be invited to Nigeria
Nigerians, especially the ones in the Southern parts would scream Islamization. Lol. Funny country.
The biggest mistake we would do is to invite the Americans or any other Big world Power. They would prolong this damn war. The truth is, nobody understands this war like us. Nobody understands the technicalities of our insecurity like us, the Nigerians.

Then why for goodness sake are getting killed like flies every day.

A Brigadier got KIA very recently, can you imagine the number of troops in company with him.

And they said only 5 combatants got killed. I find that very hard to believe.

ugo4u:

How long are we gonna wait or make politicians see the need to fund the military especially the Army? Exploring other options shouldn't be out of the table, it's a matter of national security. It is useless recruiting/training thousands into the military w/o plan to properly cater for their welfare and equipments. The edge Israel have over Arab nations is nothing but cutting edge technology and equipments not really numbers though if we have both it would be excellent.
I won't be surprised if we later get to hear that the Brig.Gen that was KIA was going for that reinforcement in a convoy of Toyota Hilux .

That will be the most likely scenario.

SuperSixSeven:



The simplicity of HESCO is the key.
The logistic needs are small: No Trench digging, no transport of raw materials or prefab concrete barriers needed. You just fill the HESCO bags with local soil and build a fortification that can even withstand explosives like RPGs. A clear advantage in every regards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RVuGImIww

A very common sense approach we will like to assume.

Just one problem , common sense is not always so common, even on this forum.