stevebond007:

I asked a question, earlier...
Cos you pour all your frustrations on the foreigners.
(you don't need the insult).
An unemployed S.A man pours his anger and frustration on a foreigners' shop. Instead of the government and the system that made you contend with 2.2% of SA wealth

You have 100% Nigerian wealth and your results are 70% dirt poor people ,no social services ,no healthcare and no hope..... .......people who "own" their wealth are drowning in the Mediterranean sea to clean corpses in Europe. You're forcing yourselves on xenophobic and racist nations risking death and humiliation.........why not fight the system that has created so much poverty and degradation in your country instead of being a nuisance everywhere you go?

Lionessza6:



So objective! . Are you sure you're Nigerian? . This is one of the few comments that was devoid of sentiments but focused on the issues raised without diverting the topic to something else. Very very very very rare to witness here as most comments are usually devoid of logic . ... .bravo ....you seem like a worthy person to have a serious discussion with.

@the bolded, this is what we keep on telling African immigrants,that most countries in Africa are not at war,they need focused youth to fix them and it won't be easy with all the dictators around but when they put enough pressure results will show. We need space to deal with our own issues here and we're being distracted by these useful weapons called illegals. People are now wide awake that these people are brought here on purpose to reverse the gains of our freedom .....cheap labour and criminality.

Well, thank you for the compliments. I always try to remove sentiments from my reasoning. It doesnt go well with many people in Nigeria because Nigerians are extremely sentimental creatures devoid of logics most times.

I am not against migration because humans will always migrate. What I am against is illegal migration. Anyone who wants to migrate should do so legally and do so with competent skillset or profession instead of going to add to an unemployment rate in that country.

Also when u migrate, make sure u dance to the music of the locals. What I find funny is how most Nigerians demand for things they cant demand for in Nigeria when they get to another country. Nigerians complain about certain treatments in another country, something they cant complain about in Nigeria. It is laughable.

I also say it that developing countries dont need much of unkilled workers. Developing countries need skilled professionals who will come in and create jobs. So, if I am migrating, I am not going to look for work, I am going to create for my self at least. And I am not going there to drag for things I can't drag in my home country even when my own people have treated me even worse.

Lionessza6:



The rest of the post I wont even entertain because it's nothing but sentimental trash
@the bolded,stop being stupid;

Keep blaming Africa for your woes. You will need who needs each other more.

IronGalaxy:
Still deliberately missing the point. You are as thick as they come

And you are as lazy as they come

Princedapace:


Well, thank you for the compliments. I always try to remove sentiments from my reasoning. It doesnt go well with many people in Nigeria because Nigerians are extremely sentimental creatures devoid of logics most times.

I am not against migration because humans will always migrate. What I am against is illegal migration. Anyone who wants to migrate should do so legally and do so with competent skillset or profession instead of going to add to an unemployment rate in that country.

Also when u migrate, make sure u dance to the music of the locals. What I find funny is how most Nigerians demand for things they cant demand for in Nigeria when they get to another country. Nigerians complain about certain treatments in another country, something they cant complain about in Nigeria. It is laughable.

I also say it that developing countries dont need much of unkilled workers. Developing countries need skilled professionals who will come in and create jobs. So, if I am migrating, I am not going to look for work, I am going to create for my self at least. And I am not going there to drag for things I can't drag in my home country even when my own people have treated me even worse.

I wish I could like your post a thousand more times. This is exactly what we're saying, if you have the skills needed by South Africa, welcome home ,just respect the laws of the country. We are housing many professionals from the rest of the continent from tech guys to doctors, none of them complains of "xenophobia " that's because they're not a nuisance but people that have made themselves valuable to the host community. Unfortunately most African immigrants in SA have no needed skills ,so they resort to crime and being cheap labourers. This directly affects the poorest South Africans in two ways;1. it is them who have their children destroyed via human trafficking rings and drugs. 2. Jobs like waiters ,security, cleaners etc are now dominated by foreigners, why? Because foreigners don't care about a decent salary,and have no rights to complain to any employer, so if you employ them you get away with a lot ,you can molest them ,not pay them or simply just dismiss them for talking back at you . This is something you can't get away with the locals.

Nigerians and zimbos are the worst and they're actually the immigrants that are going to cause the next brutal attacks,especially Zimbos they're now trending every day. The arrogance and them dismissing the impact of their unwanted stay in South Africa has a lot of people breathing fire on the ground and soon they will lash out. Sane people are even on Twitter engaging these Zimbos,asking them how can South Africans help them in order to get their house in order so they can go back . Guess what they say ," this is Africa for Africans ,why dont you chase out white people " . Funny enough they chased out white people ,without any solid long term plan and are now waiters and car guards with their phds . The irony.


Why is the government of SA allowing this? They need a distraction from their incompetence and to shield the real perpetrators of evil in South Africa who are the 1% elite who have businesses all over Africa. So they need these African immigrants to shield them from the populace,while they're plundering the country, your local poor person has to deal with some criminal from Nigeria or fight with a Zimbo for menial jobs. These people won't give a dam about the real wealth of the country, they just want to survive and live in peace ,and guess who becomes their main problem now, the immigrant. So this whole thing is engineerineed from outside of the continent with greedy SA leaders and big business owners working for them . Now that the ANC was humbled during the elections, they will start using the migration issue to kiss the arses of South Africans and the migrants will suffer. That's what I meant by weaponisation of illegals in South Africa, and not just here ,look at USA and them ,even USA citizens are up in arms and they're a 1st world country, now imagine the impact of this nonsense on a developing country like SA that is surrounded by poor nations. What pisses me off is the fact that when you say this ,immigrants will say "then why don't you fight your government " . This is coming from people who ran away from their own governments . Zimbos can't even protest in their own country yet want to advise others on how to handle their own affairs . It's not just them but most of the migrant community, they're experts on SA issues and have all the solutions, but when you ask about their solutions for their homes ,they start crying hate and afrophobia

Sorry for the long epistle

JAWBONE:


Keep blaming Africa for your woes. You will need who needs each other more.

I'm glad you were humbled my boy . You can keep being sentimental or you can face the facts ,that's on you........but the truth is not going to change;

ednut1:
If they have no papers and constituting nuisance they should be deported and giving some money to help them back home

I agree with the 1st part ,but the bolded is crazy . SA is going through an economic meltdown and has many unemployed and poor people of her own. African leaders from outside of SA must be held accountable for this disaster not just South Africa.

kikuyu2:


Malema is an agent! He and the EFF are funded by a Swazi billionaire Impostor, what I call the fake Jews. Nathan Kirsch has been funding the EFF since at LEAST 2016.
In politics you sing the song of your sponsor! THAT rule applies EVERYWHERE competitive politics is practiced: Uruguay, Belgium, Mexico or here in Kenya. Kirsch is one of the 0.01% who set the agenda down South - it's NOT the ANC or the media!
These Elites are the same responsible for the 4 mn illegal immigrants who tbh are involved in MUCH criminal F'ERY EVEN without mentioning the "Hardworking tribe."
Zimbos do snatch and grabs in the towns and many of their ex troops also do VIOLENT robberies and cash in transit jobs. Entire shanties are filled with Malawians, Mozambicans, Zimbos and Congolese.
For real its too MUCH for Saffas to bear: no nation SHOULD be expected to shoulder such a burden.

I'm glad a lot of people in the country are waking up to the fraud called Malema, and his controlled opposition party. He is getting frustrated now and lashing out at South Africans everytime he gets the chance to . I think the funders want results and he can't deliver ,now he is busy fcking up Swaziland and Unfortunately our brothers over there are as gullible as his followers in South Africa,they think he is a real pan Africanists who will save them from the globalists not knowing that he is paid to deliver them to these snakes.

Remember when I said Malema was brought in for the remove Zuma project in SA?. Today under Ramaphosa he is well behaved and only chases after powerless boeres . We are being ambushed by the zionist thugs forcing us to close down our coal mines to " save the environment " ,none of those " opposition parties" that were vocal during the Zuma administration are seen opposing this nonsense. The presence of the United nations army in KZN, and the presence of of USA army in Cape town tells me that something is about to go down in South Africa and the deliberate poisoning and under funding of the SA army is part of that plan.

Lionessza6:



You have 100% Nigerian wealth and your results are 70% dirt poor people ,no social services ,no healthcare and no hope..... .......people who "own" their wealth are drowning in the Mediterranean sea to clean corpses in Europe. You're forcing yourselves on xenophobic and racist nations risking death and humiliation.........why not fight the system that has created so much poverty and degradation in your country instead of being a nuisance everywhere you go?

Yeah, you are right. The country got it right in the 60s, 70s, the military rule set the country aback, but all is been fixed gradually. Not that it's a nice thing to keep comparing dire situation,btw the 2 countries,but unfortunately the black population is yet to even get respite. SA is the most unequal economy in the world. Increasing since 94, when the world thought the end of apartheid would have brought more relief. Sad.
Julius Malema is the only one that sees beyond. Buh S.A populace is so fixed on foreigners.

Lionessza6:



I wish I could like your post a thousand more times. This is exactly what we're saying, if you have the skills needed by South Africa, welcome home ,just respect the laws of the country. We are housing many professionals from the rest of the continent from tech guys to doctors, none of them complains of "xenophobia " that's because they're not a nuisance but people that have made themselves valuable to the host community. Unfortunately most African immigrants in SA have no needed skills ,so they resort to crime and being cheap labourers. This directly affects the poorest South Africans in two ways;1. it is them who have their children destroyed via human trafficking rings and drugs. 2. Jobs like waiters ,security, cleaners etc are now dominated by foreigners, why? Because foreigners don't care about a decent salary,and have no rights to complain to any employer, so if you employ them you get away with a lot ,you can molest them ,not pay them or simply just dismiss them for talking back at you . This is something you can't get away with the locals.

Nigerians and zimbos are the worst and they're actually the immigrants that are going to cause the next brutal attacks,especially Zimbos they're now trending every day. The arrogance and them dismissing the impact of their unwanted stay in South Africa has a lot of people breathing fire on the ground and soon they will lash out. Sane people are even on Twitter engaging these Zimbos,asking them how can South Africans help them in order to get their house in order so they can go back . Guess what they say ," this is Africa for Africans ,why dont you chase out white people " . Funny enough they chased out white people ,without any solid long term plan and are now waiters and car guards with their phds . The irony.


Why is the government of SA allowing this? They need a distraction from their incompetence and to shield the real perpetrators of evil in South Africa who are the 1% elite who have businesses all over Africa. So they need these African immigrants to shield them from the populace,while they're plundering the country, your local poor person has to deal with some criminal from Nigeria or fight with a Zimbo for menial jobs. These people won't give a dam about the real wealth of the country, they just want to survive and live in peace ,and guess who becomes their main problem now, the immigrant. So this whole thing is engineerineed from outside of the continent with greedy SA leaders and big business owners working for them . Now that the ANC was humbled during the elections, they will start using the migration issue to kiss the arses of South Africans and the migrants will suffer. That's what I meant by weaponisation of illegals in South Africa, and not just here ,look at USA and them ,even USA citizens are up in arms and they're a 1st world country, now imagine the impact of this nonsense on a developing country like SA that is surrounded by poor nations. What pisses me off is the fact that when you say this ,immigrants will say "then why don't you fight your government " . This is coming from people who ran away from their own governments . Zimbos can't even protest in their own country yet want to advise others on how to handle their own affairs . It's not just them but most of the migrant community, they're experts on SA issues and have all the solutions, but when you ask about their solutions for their homes ,they start crying hate and afrophobia

Sorry for the long epistle

I read everything from A to Z. You have good points and that is what I have been saying. I feel for SA too. She is sorrounded by poor nations. Zimbabwe and Nigeria are worse. And these set of countries have terrible leaders. Nigerians can't protest in Nigeria o. We can't. But Nigerians want to claim right in SA

Well, I wish them the best. The only thing I will say is this.
It is unfortunate the type of leaders we have in Africa. Nigerians wanted to take their madness to UAE but UAE has strong security system that constantly checked Nigerians and when the need came, they sanctioned Nigerians.
African leaders are incompetent. In UAE, citizenship is not allowed no matter how many years u have stayed there

Nigerians and Zimbabwe are always looking for where to run to. They are always looking for the next country to run to. We are shameless. Most of them run without a decent skillset. Total madness.

I wish u the best. I was in Accra recently and I have a South African friend for over 5 years now. She has been telling me to move to SA. I told her that I can only do that once I acquire skillset that will enable me not to be looking for jobs in SA but rather create jobs. I don't want to be a burden to anyone.
Same thing I said as my Ghanaian friend told me to relocate to Accra as these two countries are now better than useless Nigeria in everything. I told him maybe next year or the coming year, I will fully transit into software development, I can now migrate legally without backdoor.
All my life, I always want to do things legally. I don't want problems.

Princedapace:


Well, thank you for the compliments. I always try to remove sentiments from my reasoning. It doesnt go well with many people in Nigeria because Nigerians are extremely sentimental creatures devoid of logics most times.

I am not against migration because humans will always migrate. What I am against is illegal migration. Anyone who wants to migrate should do so legally and do so with competent skillset or profession instead of going to add to an unemployment rate in that country.

Also when u migrate, make sure u dance to the music of the locals. What I find funny is how most Nigerians demand for things they cant demand for in Nigeria when they get to another country. Nigerians complain about certain treatments in another country, something they cant complain about in Nigeria. It is laughable.

I also say it that developing countries dont need much of unkilled workers. Developing countries need skilled professionals who will come in and create jobs. So, if I am migrating, I am not going to look for work, I am going to create for my self at least. And I am not going there to drag for things I can't drag in my home country even when my own people have treated me even worse.

Amen

stevebond007:


Yeah, you are right. The country got it right in the 60s, 70s, the military rule set the country aback, but all is been fixed gradually. Not that it's a nice thing to keep comparing dire situation,btw the 2 countries,but unfortunately the black population is yet to even get respite. SA is the most unequal economy in the world. Increasing since 94, when the world thought the end of apartheid would have brought more relief. Sad.
Julius Malema is the only one that sees beyond. Buh S.A populace is so fixed on foreigners.

Answer this for me ;

1. Why is your populace so fixated on running away from home if you truly own those resources in your backyard? who is actually benefitting from the oil if 70% of you are dirt poor ,you think it's your African population ?
2. Where are Nigerians treated with respect, Nigeria?
3. You were handed over a country without even fighting for it, please show us what you did with it and why you all are ready to jappa from it ?
4. Why should SA not be fixated with migrants who are destroying their country, so you would be pleased if we set back and watched savages who ran away from their own homes come here and destroy everything we have worked for ?
5. Malema is a hero only to dumb people ,how does filling up a country with illiterates from other countries going to assist the country? . If you're talking about his recycled rants about the land issue,you're stupid if you actually think he's the only one who does that in South Africa. The question; who is going to fix Nigeria ,who is your leader that sees "beyond " your current situation.

Princedapace ,see what I was talking about, he has all the ideas on how we can do better and what leaders we should follow ,but I bet you your brother doesn't have a single idea on how to better Nigeria . Armchair critic this one

Lionessza6:



Answer this for me ;

1. Why is your populace so fixated on running away from home if you truly own those resources in your backyard? who is actually benefitting from the oil if 70% of you are dirt poor ,you think it's your African population ?
2. Where are Nigerians treated with respect, Nigeria?
3. You were handed over a country without even fighting for it, please show us what you did with it and why you all are ready to jappa from it ?
4. Why should SA not be fixated with migrants who are destroying their country, so you would be pleased if we set back and watched savages who ran away from their own homes come here and destroy everything we have worked for ?
5. Malema is a hero only to dumb people ,how does filling up a country with illiterates from other countries going to assist the country? . If you're talking about his recycled rants about the land issue,you're stupid if you actually think he's the only one who does that in South Africa. The question; who is going to fix Nigeria ,who is your leader that sees "beyond " your current situation.

Princedapace ,see what I was talking about, he has all the ideas on how we can do better and what leaders we should follow ,but I bet you your brother doesn't have a single idea on how to better Nigeria . Armchair critic this one

1) Things need sorting out, hence people seek greener pasture. It's natural.
2) Nigerians are respected in the Western world, the top most progressive immigrants in the U.S. Nigerians are known for academic prowess and hence the respect. Many examples exist. Let's leave that to your research.
3) Our fathers actually fought legal battles before the colonialist handed over, so your assertion is so wrong. Like I said, the military rule did damages. So don't amuse yourself much.
4) No one is saying you shouldn't remove urchins, but the way you label all foreigners criminals, at the slightest provocation, needs looking into. It stems from a repressed emotions of inequality.
5) We youths are fixing things, it's gradual. You wait. And ofcourse, Malema is brilliant only if you chose to see.
And ofcourse I realize you not ready for a discuss without INSULTS. Bottled anger does no good fellow.

stevebond007:

1) Things need sorting out, hence people seek greener pasture. It's natural.
2) Nigerians are respected in the Western world, the top most progressive immigrants in the U.S. Nigerians are known for academic prowess and hence the respect. Many examples exist. Let's leave that to your research.
3) Our fathers actually fought legal battles before the colonialist handed over, so your assertion is so wrong. Like I said, the military rule did damages. So don't amuse yourself much.
4) No one is saying you shouldn't remove urchins, but the way you label all foreigners criminals, at the slightest provocation, needs looking into. It stems from a repressed emotions of inequality.
5) We youths are fixing things, it's gradual. You wait. And ofcourse, Malema is brilliant only if you chose to see.
And ofcourse I realize you not ready for a discuss without INSULTS. Bottled anger does no good fellow.

what he/she is saying is simple: U cant be telling them how to run their country when we cant even do same in our country... It beats my imagination how Nigerians who cant protest in Nigeria even if there is no electricity for 200 years will be demanding for rights in another man's country.

Oga, they said they dont have problem with skillfull professionals and I have a lot of Nigerian professioinals in SA. Many Nigerians lecturers in SA. Their problem are those illegal immigrants who will come in with tourism visa and start looking for how to manipulate document to remain there even when they dont have any indemand skillset needed in SA.
They are angry that Nigerians and Zimbabwe citizens take up jobs and accept any how payment which denies the South Africans access to these jobs with better pay. Yea, even UK citizens protested over something like this. Even in Italy. Bro, the koko is Nigerians, Zibabweans, Somalians, should reduce how they run away from their countries and stay back and fight their old leaders who have destroyed the countries.

Princedapace:


what he/she is saying is simple: U cant be telling them how to run their country when we cant even do same in our country... It beats my imagination how Nigerians who cant protest in Nigeria even if there is no electricity for 200 years will be demanding for rights in another man's country.

Oga, they said they dont have problem with skillfull professionals and I have a lot of Nigerian professioinals in SA. Many Nigerians lecturers in SA. Their problem are those illegal immigrants who will come in with tourism visa and start looking for how to manipulate document to remain there even when they dont have any indemand skillset needed in SA.
They are angry that Nigerians and Zimbabwe citizens take up jobs and accept any how payment which denies the South Africans access to these jobs with better pay. Yea, even UK citizens protested over something like this. Even in Italy. Bro, the koko is Nigerians, Zibabweans, Somalians, should reduce how they run away from their countries and stay back and fight their old leaders who have destroyed the countries.

We on same page. If you read well. And Nigerians ain't docile. And the fight is already on.
No one is teaching them how to run their country, it's an opinion. The world is a village and we all have sides of opinion in international politics. I believe you monitor global news sphere, so don't say someone is teaching them how to run their country.
My grouse is the ultimate label on foreigners at the slightest provocation.
Let's read between the lines, sir.
Illegal immigrants is a problem, but not "the" problem.

Lionessza6:


I wish other Africans would respect the laws of their host nations,and be of value than leeches.

There are areas in our city centers that have even become no-go zones for South Africans because of these immigrants, just imagine! Because aside from the crime and general chaos the rudeness of these people is something else ! these are some of the things that put our people off! the little microaggressions. Imagine you wanna walk along the pavement but there is a group of 10 men making noise and blocking your path and not even flinching, you must now ask them to move despite seeing you approaching and Nigerians are especially guilty of this.

LeSudAfricaine:
Urgh. No matter how intellectually you try to present your arguments, you Nigerians always fall in the same trap you .overpraise whitey and play down black people. It kills most of your arguments .

What is your counter argument?

Compare the growth ratios in South Africa pre Klerk and Post Mandela and lets see the figures?

IronGalaxy:
Did you or did you not celebrate road markings on one road called Sokoto. A simple yes or no would do

Your seem dumber than a donkey then.

To explain things in your own level, i did not celebrate road markings anywhere. If however a group of people celebrated a new road in their community, does that make them lesser humans?

You seem to forget that these same people you want to ridicule fought for your parents to be unshackled from apartheid.

You seem to forget that many ANC big wigs today were on exile here in Nigeria being fed with our funds and even given our passports.

Do you think Mandela if alive today would agree to your micro thinking?

South Africans might feel like they have arrived today but my prediction is still on point….50 years from now, no matter what Nigeria goes through, we would be better off than South Africa.

truthCoder:


What is your counter argument?

Compare the growth ratios in South Africa pre Klerk and Post Mandela and lets see the figures?

I lost interest the moment you started kissing white ass like a typical Nigerian coon. No matter what I say is going to be worthless, arguing with coons who are dead set in believing that white people are gods is pointless, it's like arguing with a religious fanatic

stevebond007:

1) Things need sorting out, hence people seek greener pasture. It's natural.
2) Nigerians are respected in the Western world, the top most progressive immigrants in the U.S. Nigerians are known for academic prowess and hence the respect. Many examples exist. Let's leave that to your research.
3) Our fathers actually fought legal battles before the colonialist handed over, so your assertion is so wrong. Like I said, the military rule did damages. So don't amuse yourself much.
4) No one is saying you shouldn't remove urchins, but the way you label all foreigners criminals, at the slightest provocation, needs looking into. It stems from a repressed emotions of inequality.
5) We youths are fixing things, it's gradual. You wait. And ofcourse, Malema is brilliant only if you chose to see.
And ofcourse I realize you not ready for a discuss without INSULTS. Bottled anger does no good fellow.

1. LMFAO, which country doesn't have things to sort out ,there's always something keeping a nation down. What is unique about you is that you would rather die in foreign lands than go back home and fix your country . You are the only group of Africans apart from zimbos that force themselves on everyone ,even when they are rejected. Your issues are deeper than you're painting.

2. The report I read stated that African migrants in America were the most "educated " group ,not specifically Nigerians although for obvious reasons you'd make up a good number of those Africans. But then again another article followed stating that the educated Africans are more than likely to work at Walmart after all that studying than other races or citizens. So much for the respect . Dude, as long as Nigeria and Africa at large are a hot mess ,there's no real respect we will ever get out there except for fake smiles from exploiters

3." You fought legal battles" that amused me . No wonder some of you are begging whites for recolonisation. Like I said every country has it's problems,whilst you are still recovering from your own self induced military rule,we too are trying to recover from the most brutal rule in Africa.

4. No one just comes out of their houses to chase foreigners around or label them criminals unless they have a good reason to. LMFAO, I could say with your constant bashing of an black country making progress,it comes from knowing that you have all that could make you an African superpower yet your only major result is extreme poverty the worst in the world
.
5. LMFAO, and your smart arse thinks we should be making rapid progress and the transformation we have achieved so far is nothing? . South African youth are the most know in the world for taking things into their own hands when elders fail, and this migration issue is one of those cases. We're not talking dreams but a reality lol.

Yes Malema is a brilliant sellout of note .

It's a good thing you're not angry, so you'll be in a position to hit me with facts not sentiments ,no?

LeSudAfricaine:
I lost interest the moment you started kissing white ass like a typical Nigerian coon. No matter what I say is going to be worthless, arguing with coons who are dead set in believing that white people are gods is pointless, it's like arguing with a religious fanatic

You can divert as much as you like….Black South Africans have been an embarrassment in governance.

I can start listing the gaffes but i know you know some of them.

Do you really think South Africa would be as ‘developed’ as it is in 1994 if your lot was in power for 50 years prior?

This is not a matter of kissing any ass. You can choose to sound woke as much as you want but if you cant counter positions with your own facts, it is better to shut up.

stevebond007:


We on same page. If you read well. And Nigerians ain't docile. And the fight is already on.
No one is teaching them how to run their country, it's an opinion. The world is a village and we all have sides of opinion in international politics. I believe you monitor global news sphere, so don't say someone is teaching them how to run their country.
My grouse is the ultimate label on foreigners at the slightest provocation.
Let's read between the lines, sir.
Illegal immigrants is a problem, but not "the" problem.

It is a big problem and Trump even had issues with Mexicans for this same reason. South Africa is worse because she is sorrounded by poor countries whose citizens migrate in numbers to their country and without standard skillsets. They cause a lot of problems for such a developing country.

What pains me is the arrogance of Nigerians. U dont blame south africans abeg. Even fulani herdsmen, when they started killing and raping people across Nigeria, what happened? Arent the locals driving them away? That has caused a lot of problem already and it is why Sunday is in detention in Benin republic. So, u see, it is a problem. So, I perfectly understand South Africans.

It is not about u. Nigerians are fond of telling South Africans how to manage their country when Nigerians have been able to generate stable electricity sef. I am a Nigerian bro. We dey Bleep up. And worse part are those our brothers who go to these countries, take advantage of their developing security system to establish crime related business to make money and oppress their fellow nigerians in Nigeria. We have terrible moral values bro. I cant lie. We have that.

Why it is not that well complained in developed worlds is this: Nigeria doesnt share border with any developed world. And developed worlds have strict migration critarial which filters out unskilled professionals from moving to these countries in most cases. And there is no country that u can easily migrate to in order to cross over because they are all sorrounded by mainly developed worlds.

Now, that is not the case with SA. SA doesnt have much strict VISA procedure for Africans. SA is sorrounded by failed countries mainly and u can get into these failed countries and cross into SA since they share borders. This gives many unskilled immigrants access to move to that country and when they get there, they indulge into crime or cheap labour to survive. This is a big problem.
South Africans will fight, yes. They will. UK citizens did same. Italians did same. Even a state in the USA did similar stuff. People will fight to protect their natural dwelling place.

How to escape it? We must reduce how we run away from our countries and fight back... or migrate if u have something good to offer to the country.

Lionessza6:



1. LMFAO, which country doesn't have things to sort out ,there's always something keeping a nation down. What is unique about you is that you would rather die in foreign lands than go back home and fix your country . You are the only group of Africans apart from zimbos that force themselves on everyone ,even when they are rejected. Your issues are deeper than you're painting.

2. The report I read stated that African migrants in America were the most "educated " group ,not specifically Nigerians although for obvious reasons you'd make up a good number of those Africans. But then again another article followed stating that the educated Africans are more than likely to work at Walmart after all that studying than other races or citizens. So much for the respect . Dude, as long as Nigeria and Africa at large are a hot mess ,there's no real respect we will ever get out there except for fake smiles from exploiters

3." You fought legal battles" that amused me . No wonder some of you are begging whites for recolonisation. Like I said every country has it's problems,whilst you are still recovering from your own self induced military rule,we too are trying to recover from the most brutal rule in Africa.

4. No one just comes out of their houses to chase foreigners around or label them criminals unless they have a good reason to. LMFAO, I could say with your constant bashing of an black country making progress,it comes from knowing that you have all that could make you an African superpower yet your only major result is extreme poverty the worst in the world
.
5. LMFAO, and your smart arse thinks we should be making rapid progress and the transformation we have achieved so far is nothing? . South African youth are the most know in the world for taking things into their own hands when elders fail, and this migration issue is one of those cases. We're not talking dreams but a reality lol.

Yes Malema is a brilliant sellout of note .

It's a good thing you're not angry, so you'll be in a position to hit me with facts not sentiments ,no?

1) You get things twisted. Nigerians are not cowards that don't want to fix their country, you are wrong. But I can't convince you, further, so let's not go further.

2) Nigerians are one of the most educated migrants in the world, not just African migrants. End up in Walmart? Many of em, are in the corporate world in U.S.A.

3) It's ok to say some" wants white recolonization but I assure that's negligible. And from an extremist lot.

4) The inequality in S.A has increased from 94, the foreigners exit won't solve it. And the riots won't either.

5) Yeah SA youths are as you said, we wish you well. I rest my case. Lady.
I can't convince you.

Princedapace:


I read everything from A to Z. You have good points and that is what I have been saying. I feel for SA too. She is sorrounded by poor nations. Zimbabwe and Nigeria are worse. And these set of countries have terrible leaders. Nigerians can't protest in Nigeria o. We can't. But Nigerians want to claim right in SA

Well, I wish them the best. The only thing I will say is this.
It is unfortunate the type of leaders we have in Africa. Nigerians wanted to take their madness to UAE but UAE has strong security system that constantly checked Nigerians and when the need came, they sanctioned Nigerians.
African leaders are incompetent. In UAE, citizenship is not allowed no matter how many years u have stayed there

Nigerians and Zimbabwe are always looking for where to run to. They are always looking for the next country to run to. We are shameless. Most of them run without a decent skillset. Total madness.

I wish u the best. I was in Accra recently and I have a South African friend for over 5 years now. She has been telling me to move to SA. I told her that I can only do that once I acquire skillset that will enable me not to be looking for jobs in SA but rather create jobs. I don't want to be a burden to anyone.
Same thing I said as my Ghanaian friend told me to relocate to Accra as these two countries are now better than useless Nigeria in everything. I told him maybe next year or the coming year, I will fully transit into software development, I can now migrate legally without backdoor.
All my life, I always want to do things legally. I don't want problems.

Dude,Nigeria would be a better place if there were many people who reason like you. I wish you well on your journey, and I'd advise you to not stay in places like Hillbrow if you make it to South Africa because one of these days that place will be flowing with blood and you being a Nigerian might get caught up in it. SA politicians are about to sacrifice certain immigrant groups (after their embarrassing performance at the polls few weeks back).

truthCoder:


You can divert as much as you like….Black South Africans have been an embarrassment in governance.

I can start listing the gaffes but i know you know some of them.

Do you really think South Africa would be as ‘developed’ as it is in 1994 if your lot was in power for 50 years prior?

This is not a matter of kissing any ass. You can choose to sound woke as much as you want but if you cant counter positions with your own facts, it is better to shut up.

Call as you see fit but you are coons, a national trapped in perpetual inferiority towards whiteness.

South Africa is even more developed now than it was prior 94 so your argument is nonsense.

you got your independence more than 60 years ago and yet you are still struggling with the basic. The black government you're trying to put down has achieved much much more in 27 years than all your 60 years of independence. You've been independent all this time but your infrastructure can't even compare with our hospitals, universities, airports, high-speed trains etc all built post 94. You are just creating excuses for your shortcomings and using your beloved whites as a crutch.

LeSudAfricaine:
There are areas in our city centers that have even become no-go zones for South Africans because of these immigrants, just imagine! Because aside from the crime and general chaos the rudeness of these people is something else ! these are some of the things that put our people off! the little microaggressions. Imagine you wanna walk along the pavement but there is a group of 10 men making noise and blocking your path and not even flinching, you must now ask them to move despite seeing you approaching and Nigerians are especially guilty of this.

I'm happy residents in East London have begun dealing with this shyt. These armpit smelling creeps are too comfortable here, many communities need to stop listening to these fake pan africanists and drive these people out of their communities. If the likes of Malema so much for them ,let them build them shacks in Sandton . They are pushing these people on vulnerable communities to deal while they live behind high walls.

truthCoder:


Your seem dumber than a donkey then.

To explain things in your own level, i did not celebrate road markings anywhere. If however a group of people celebrated a new road in their community, does that make them lesser humans?

You seem to forget that these same people you want to ridicule fought for your parents to be unshackled from apartheid.

You seem to forget that many ANC big wigs today were on exile here in Nigeria being fed with our funds and even given our passports.


South Africans might feel like they have arrived today but my prediction is still on point….50 years from now, no matter what Nigeria goes through, we would be better off than South Africa.

Don't give a flying fvck about your predictions, you ain't Nostradamus. it's 2021, some countries are launching high-speed trains, Egypt is building the new Cairo and you are celebrating road marking on one road. LMFAO. weren't you also celebrating locomotive trains a few years earlier coon? Like I said, you are rooted firmly in stone age

Princedapace:


It is a big problem and Trump even had issues with Mexicans for this same reason. South Africa is worse because she is sorrounded by poor countries whose citizens migrate in numbers to their country and without standard skillsets. They cause a lot of problems for such a developing country.

What pains me is the arrogance of Nigerians. U dont blame south africans abeg. Even fulani herdsmen, when they started killing and raping people across Nigeria, what happened? Arent the locals driving them away? That has caused a lot of problem already and it is why Sunday is in detention in Benin republic. So, u see, it is a problem. So, I perfectly understand South Africans.

It is not about u. Nigerians are fond of telling South Africans how to manage their country when Nigerians have been able to generate stable electricity sef. I am a Nigerian bro. We dey Bleep up. And worse part are those our brothers who go to these countries, take advantage of their developing security system to establish crime related business to make money and oppress their fellow nigerians in Nigeria. We have terrible moral values bro. I cant lie. We have that.

Why it is not that well complained in developed worlds is this: Nigeria doesnt share border with any developed world. And developed worlds have strict migration critarial which filters out unskilled professionals from moving to these countries in most cases. And there is no country that u can easily migrate to in order to cross over because they are all sorrounded by mainly developed worlds.

Now, that is not the case with SA. SA doesnt have much strict VISA procedure for Africans. SA is sorrounded by failed countries mainly and u can get into these failed countries and cross into SA since they share borders. This gives many unskilled immigrants access to move to that country and when they get there, they indulge into crime or cheap labour to survive. This is a big problem.
South Africans will fight, yes. They will. UK citizens did same. Italians did same. Even a state in the USA did similar stuff. People will fight to protect their natural dwelling place.

How to escape it? We must reduce how we run away from our countries and fight back... or migrate if u have something good to offer to the country.

Let them do as they please. It's their country shaa. No one supports nefarious activities. My one is there is more to SA than just foreigners.
Good morning

truthCoder:


You can divert as much as you like….Black South Africans have been an embarrassment in governance.

I can start listing the gaffes but i know you know some of them.

Do you really think South Africa would be as ‘developed’ as it is in 1994 if your lot was in power for 50 years prior?

This is not a matter of kissing any ass. You can choose to sound woke as much as you want but if you cant counter positions with your own facts, it is better to shut up.

OOh the audacity of someone from a leaderless, chaotic mess pointing out embarrassments of other governments.

truthCoder:


You can divert as much as you like….Black South Africans have been an embarrassment in governance.

I can start listing the gaffes but i know you know some of them.

Do you really think South Africa would be as ‘developed’ as it is in 1994 if your lot was in power for 50 years prior?

This is not a matter of kissing any ass. You can choose to sound woke as much as you want but if you cant counter positions with your own facts, it is better to shut up.

Tell you what> why don't we compare the achievements of the ANC with those of your government of 60 years. the real embarrassment will sure emerge

stevebond007:


[b]Let them do as they please. It's their country [/b]shaa. No one supports nefarious activities. My one is there is more to SA than just foreigners.
Good morning

Lol . Why then do you appear butthurt when we wanna do as we please in our country?

Lionessza6:



[b]I'm glad a lot of people in the country are waking up to the fraud called Malema, and his controlled opposition party. [/b]He is getting frustrated now and lashing out at South Africans everytime he gets the chance to . I think the funders want results and he can't deliver ,now he is busy fcking up Swaziland and Unfortunately our brothers over there are as gullible as his followers in South Africa,they think he is a real pan Africanists who will save them from the globalists not knowing that he is paid to deliver them to these snakes.

Remember when I said Malema was brought in for the remove Zuma project in SA?. Today under Ramaphosa he is well behaved and only chases after powerless boeres . We are being ambushed by the zionist thugs forcing us to close down our coal mines to " save the environment " ,none of those " opposition parties" that were vocal during the Zuma administration are seen opposing this nonsense. The presence of the United nations army in KZN, and the presence of of USA army in Cape town tells me that something is about to go down in South Africa and the deliberate poisoning and under funding of the SA army is part of that plan.

Sis,as ever you see things clearly! Unlike most black people you're not emotional-our greatest failing as a people. You can at least view empirical evidence and make logical conclusions. Did you closely observe the November Steal? Black Americans had the lowest unemployment rate ever since records were kept!

Black unemployment rate falls to a record low

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/06/economy/black-unemployment-rate/index.html

OTOH,Biden moved for the mass incarceration of Blacks in 94.

Black Americans are in an abusive relationship with the Democratic party

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/22/black-americans-joe-biden-democratic-party-relationship

If you know anyone in the US they can tell you the most FKed up places are Democrat RUN. There are entire abandoned blocks in Baltimore,Detroit,Philly and big towns looking like this. The Dems have ruled them for a half century! Trump greatly improved his black vote from 8% in 2016 to at least 20% during the Steal.

Eighty percent of Black men supported Joe Biden, down slightly from Hilary Clinton’s 82 percent in 2016 but significantly down from Barack Obama’s level of support among Black men in 2012 and 2008.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-men-drifted-democrats-toward-trump-record-numbers-polls-show-n1246447

I'm still convinced Biden was rigged in-all those mass 3 am vote dumps were fishy but returning to the issue:many blacks voted against the man who gave them jobs for the guy who instituted their mass incarceration by the private prison biz in support of a political system that put them in crime ridden slums for half a century!

What. The. Entire. FK

Edit: I brought up this with a cuz who thought deeply for 5 seconds and seeing Harris' future succession said: "black don't crack!"