JOSCOFELIX:
oga to very 20mrap sent to a formation 2 are specially bulid for commander. ask uncle sam how commander move. tight security .with all this mrap british has there men and commanders have been killed in war. check afghan ,iraq. battlefied no be your mate.

I don't know where you get your information from (possibly uneducated NCO mess) but it's WRONG.

There are different configurations for MRAP's sometimes mission specific. But I have NEVER EVER seen where you have specific specialty designed MRAP for senior officers your diction a commander.


You have introduced comparison analysis , which highlights our huge failings and ineptitude.

Just to educate you, you do need to be educated. For the over the 20 years of British armed forces deployment in Afghanistan. We sadly lost 467 combatants the highest ranking officer lost was a Lt. Col.

These are published statistics with rank and names attached in in the public domain. That means 22 soldiers lost every year , 2 soldiers in every month since the 20 year deployment in Afghanistan.

We know the NA will NEVER reveals the true level of casualties in this war.

Does anybody want to speculate ❓❓ l actually think we are talking thousands of of casualties. Particularly when you consider the UNACCEPTABLY high number of commissioned officers lost.

ShadowCommander:
ISWAP Releases Photos Of Brig. Gen. Zirkusu, Other Slain Soldiers, Armoured Vehicles Captured From Army In Borno
The Nigerian army has repeatedly claimed that insurgency had been largely defeated and frequently underplayed any losses.

Militants from the Islamic State-backed faction of Boko Haram, the Islamic State West Africa Province (ISWAP), formerly known as Jamā'at Ahl as-Sunnah lid-Da'wah wa'l-Jihād, have released pictures of four soldiers including Brigadier General Dzarma Zirkusu killed by the group during an ambush on troops in Bulguma, Askira Uba Local Government Area of Borno State.

ISWAP had in a statement on Sunday claimed 17 Nigerian soldiers were killed during two attacks on the LGA.


According to the group, 13 soldiers were killed when its fighters attacked troops at a military base in Askira town while four others were killed during an ambush at Bulguma, a few kilometres from Askira.

However, the Islamic terror group on Wednesday released a picture showing four bodies of dead soldiers including that of Brigadier General Zirkusu killed in Bulguma.

Zirkusu, until his death, was the commander of the 28 Task Force in Chibok.

He was said to have mobilised his men to provide reinforcement in Askira, which was under attack but his team was ambushed on their way to provide support for the soldiers battling the insurgents.

The insurgents also displayed a Saurer 4K 4FA armoured tank and Isotrex Phantom 2 APC captured from the army.

The Saurer 4K 4FA is an Austrian armoured personnel carrier with caterpillar tracks while Isotrex Phantom 2 is a new version of the 4×4 B6 armoured personnel carriers. Other than a 5-door configuration, with a 360° gun turret and with two or three escape hatches, the Isotrex Manufacturing allows customers to customize the vehicles for the special client's needs and requirements.


ISWAP as well displayed photographs of different weapons and ammunition stolen from the military.

SaharaReporters had reported that ISWAP fighters on Saturday engaged Nigerian troops in a gun battle at a military base in Askira, Borno State.

Some civilians had said they sighted the terrorists in a long convoy of gun trucks along Ngude axis towards Askira. The civilians added that they reported the movement of the terrorists to security forces but no action was taken before the deadly group stormed Askira town hours later.

Since the death of JAS leader, Abubakar Shekau, ISWAP has been consolidating its grip in locations around Lake Chad.

The sect’s membership has swollen with the defection of hundreds of Boko Haram fighters under Shekau.

The Nigerian army has repeatedly claimed that insurgency had been largely defeated and frequently underplayed any losses.

In the past months, soldiers have been targeted by the insurgents, who waylay them.

Hundreds of soldiers and officers have been reportedly killed since January 2021.

What are you effectively saying ❓ That the hunter has become the HUNTED ❓❓❓

Bidexiii disappears every year around this period, by Dec/Jan he should be back.

JOSCOFELIX:
check afghan ,iraq. battlefied no be your mate

Are you talking about Operation Talic that was carried out by the British military between 2003 and 2011?

Less than 200 British soldiers died in iraq

In Afghanistan, throughout the British military combat in Afghanistan, I don't think up to 500 UK military personnel have lost their fight.

Can you now give us the estimate of the Nigerian soldiers that have died in this war since 2009? No just give us an estimate and tell us say nah your source tell you o

I can back up what I said about the UK military personnel death in Iraq and Afghanistan with legit source, you should be able to back up your own with legit source too.

Is an insult to compare the UK military with that of the Nigerian military.

DubaiLandLord1:
Are you talking about Operation Talic that was carried out by the British military between 2003 and 2011?

Less than 200 British soldiers died in iraq

In Afghanistan, throughout the British military combat in Afghanistan, I don't think up to 500 UK military personnel have lost their fight.

Can you now give us the estimate of the Nigerian soldiers that have died in this war since 2009? No just give us an estimate and tell us say nah your source tell you o

I can back up what I said about the UK military personnel death in Iraq and Afghanistan with legit source, you should be able to back up your own with legit source too.

Is an insult to compare the UK military with that of the Nigerian military.

If the army venture release the number of casualties for this damn war dem go close them down....!! Lack of data in this country is helping them have thousands of sacrificial lambs....!!!

When making comparison and trying to be the smartest in the class,you need to consider density of troops and total mission encounter.
The total amount of troops deployed to fight the insurgency in bornu may be higher than the total amount the UK deployed to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Common knowledge is the the rate of encounter and density of troops is directly proportional to the amount lost. Take it or leave it

Islamic State militants have recently stepped up in Mozambique's Cabo Delgado province, launching daring attacks on both local and foreign South African soldiers

DubaiLandLord1:
Are you talking about Operation Talic that was carried out by the British military between 2003 and 2011?

Less than 200 British soldiers died in iraq

In Afghanistan, throughout the British military combat in Afghanistan, I don't think up to 500 UK military personnel have lost their fight.

Can you now give us the estimate of the Nigerian soldiers that have died in this war since 2009? No just give us an estimate and tell us say nah your source tell you o

I can back up what I said about the UK military personnel death in Iraq and Afghanistan with legit source, you should be able to back up your own with legit source too.

Is an insult to compare the UK military with that of the Nigerian military.

but troop was lost him claming that british mrap have not been destroyed made me to laugh. before anything the war in afghan and iraq was a nato operation which up to 10 nation was involve if we want to caculate their dead service men will calculate the causaties of all the nation involve.. From us to france to british down to germany and more brono is purely nigeria army so calculate and write back
British army have little number of man in afghan and iraq and depend on US for operational salt when attack mission rugged terrian. but by the way why are will comparing nation that failed in defeating terroism, nation that run away from
afghan saying their mission is over without fighting the main threat, ,nation that their 20 year is equal to tailbian two month ! tailbian defeat 20year of nato operation in two month

EricBraven:
When making comparison and trying to be the smartest in the class you need to consider density of troops and total mission encounter.
The total amount of troops deployed to fight the insurgency in bornu may be higher than the total amount the UK deployed to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Common knowledge is the the rate of encounter and density of troops is directly proportional to the amount lost. Take it or leave it

Chief we are losing Soldiers carelessly. If the US and UK are as careless as us, they’ll lose more Soldiers than us.

Base Fortification Zero
Using Open Hilux in Red Zones
Proper Base Surveillances etc drones.
Previously we had a poor response time for Air support due to inter-agency bureaucracy.

There was no need for the bolded statement.

We need to Improve. We are having the mentality of using numbers to win this war after all Depot go open and Nigerians will troop in for recruitment.

JOSCOFELIX:
but troop was lost him claming that british mrap have not been destroyed made me to laugh. before anything the war in afghan and iraq was a nato operation which up to 10 nation was involve if we want to caculate their dead service men will calculate the causaties of all the nation involve.. From us to france to british down to germany and more brono is purely nigeria army so calculate and write back
British army have little number of man in afghan and iraq and depend on US for operational salt when attack mission rugged terrian. but by the way why are will comparing nation that failed in defeating terroism, nation that run away from
afghan saying their mission is over without fighting the main threat, ,nation that their 20 year is equal to tailbian two month ! tailbian defeat 20year of nato operation in two month

The death of the coalition should be between 3500-4000 death

Nigerian army nko? Since the war is even happening in Nigeria, it should be so easy for the Nigerian army to keep record since 2009

EricBraven:
When making comparison and trying to be the smartest in the class,you need to consider density of troops and total mission encounter.
The total amount of troops deployed to fight the insurgency in bornu may be higher than the total amount the UK deployed to fight in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Common knowledge is the the rate of encounter and density of troops is directly proportional to the amount lost. Take it or leave it

Do not make brazen, emotive led assumptions from bias, which have zero substance.

To present your proposition you have to state the number of troops deployed. And indeed number of operations and engagements.

For your information on over 150 000 UK armed forces personal have been deployed in Afghanistan alone over the plus 20 year period.

Now give us the Nigerian armed forces deployment over the last 10 years. It's only then we can make a substantive comparison not sentiment based assumptions.

DubaiLandLord1:
The death of the coalition should be between 3500-4000 death

Nigerian army nko? Since the war is even happening in Nigeria, it should be so easy for the Nigerian army to keep record since 2009

oga give source and sto stop assuming. it close or more than 10,000 in the two war and your comparing nation with over million troop with nation only with thousand of troop and equipment show weak you are. c the early stage of the war between 2009 to 2011 police was the major caustlies of the war 2012 to now was when military was deployed so calculate the dead of nigeria military

komekn:


Do not make brazen, emotive led assumptions from bias, which have zero substance.

To present your proposition you have to state vtur number of troops deployed. And indeed number of operations and engagements.

For your information on over 150 000 UK armed forces personal have been deployed in Afghanistan alone over the plus 20 year period.

Now give us the Nigerian armed forces deployment over the last 10 years. It's only then we can my aje be substantive comparison not sentiment based assumptions.

how many troop does uk as have. lie with sense please

JOSCOFELIX:
oga give source and sto stop assuming. it close or more than 10,000 in the two war and your comparing nation with over million troop with nation only with thousand of troop and equipment show weak you are. c the early stage of the war between 2009 to 2011 police was the major caustlies of the war 2012 to now was when military was deployed so calculate the dead of nigeria military

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-47391821.amp

That's a source from the BBC

So you can't present any source for the Nigerian military personnel casualties?

SamuelAnyawu:


Chief we are losing Soldiers carelessly. If the US and UK are as careless as us, they’ll lose more Soldiers than us.

Base Fortification Zero
Using Open Hilux in Red Zones
Proper Base Surveillances etc drones.
Previously we had a poor response time for Air support due to inter-agency bureaucracy.

There was no need for the bolded statement.

We need to Improve. We are having the mentality of using numbers to win this war after all Depot go open and Nigerians will troop in for recruitment.

You don't give a balance or constructive argument anymore, you exaggerate things, thinking everyone will believe, because you are there in the battle field, are you in anyway saying we are winning the war based on number, not because we are better fighters than the terrorists?
If we are using numbers to fight the war because depots will be open for troop recruitment, then why are we crying that we lack manpower in Borno, and the need for more troops to be deployed, to hold grounds?
You are comparing US to Nigeria that spent trillions of dollars of dollars in Afghanistan, more than our GDP, money that will cover Nigeria total budget for 2 decades or more,is what the US wasted in Afghanistan, and still lost, how much is Nigeria military budget?
The military has been neglected for many years, because of corruption, it's only recent it started finding it feet, and the use of light skin vehicles are being phrasing out gradually.
Even the Americans and it allies you are comparing Nigeria to, also loses thousands of it troops, despite using more protected vehicles, so tell what causes they deaths?

Roan77:


You don't give a balance or constructive argument anymore, you exaggerate things, thinking everyone will believe, because you are there in the battle field, are you in anyway saying we are winning the war based on number, not because we are better fighters than the terrorists?
If we are using numbers to fight the war because depots will be open for troop recruitment, then why are we crying that we lack manpower in Borno, and the need for more troops to be deployed, to hold grounds?
You are comparing US to Nigeria that spent trillions of dollars of dollars in Afghanistan, more than our GDP, money that will cover Nigeria total budget for 2 decades or more,is what the US wasted in Afghanistan, and still lost, how much is Nigeria military budget?
The military has been neglected for many years, because of corruption, it's only recent it started finding it feet, and the use of light skin vehicles are being phrasing out gradually.
Even the Americans and it allies you are comparing Nigeria to, also loses thousands of it troops, despite using more protected vehicles, so tell what causes they deaths?

I don’t give a balanced and constructive argument because it doesn’t blend with your opinion?

Did you read my post you quoted?

Chief don’t jump into arguments just because of emotions. I’m giving reasons why we are having high casualties.

Base fortification
Soft Skinned vehicles
Proper surveillance etc and I called on the government/Military to improve on this. How is this exaggeration?

Some of you guys here can’t do without being emotional Bro

It’s very simple logic.

Later Bro I have a Civilian-Military coordination meeting to attend in our Brigade

SamuelAnyawu:


I don’t give a balanced and constructive argument because it doesn’t blend with your opinion?

Did you read my post you quoted?

Chief don’t jump into arguments just because of emotions. I’m giving reasons why we are having high casualties.

Base fortification
Soft Skinned vehicles
Proper surveillance etc and I called on the government/Military to improve on this. How is this exaggeration?

Some of you guys here can’t do without being emotional Bro

It’s very simple logic.

Later Bro I have a Civilian-Military coordination meeting to attend in our Brigade

Me being emotional?

I'm just responding back to what you initially wrote there.

You are the one that has to read my quote again, read the last part carefully.

Roan77:


Me being emotional?

I'm just responding back to what you initially wrote there.

You are the one that has to read my quote again, read the last part carefully.

Chief we are believing in numbers. I have said this with my full chest. The Military should improve on its loose ends.

That’s all

SamuelAnyawu:


Base fortification
Soft Skinned vehicles
Proper surveillance etc

The last two are being worked on already but the truth is that we cannot totally replace soft skins in the theater, what can be done is to reduce the numbers by a lot in the high risk zones, troops far from the battle front will still have soft skins forming the bulk of their vehicles.

SamuelAnyawu:


Chief we are losing Soldiers carelessly. If the US and UK are as careless as us, they’ll lose more Soldiers than us.

Base Fortification Zero
Using Open Hilux in Red Zones
Proper Base Surveillances etc drones.
Previously we had a poor response time for Air support due to inter-agency bureaucracy.

There was no need for the bolded statement.

We need to Improve. We are having the mentality of using numbers to win this war after all Depot go open and Nigerians will troop in for recruitment.

When you are tasked for a duty, you make use of the available resources provided.
When you say we are using numbers to persecute this war then i am forced to ask you,how did you come to that conclusion.
The TOC is vast and cut across border,we also do not have the required vehicles (formally we roll out men in soft skin vehicle at the begging of the war) but the reduction of soft skin vehicle has started.
The rate at which we lose men have also reduce incase you don't know

SamuelAnyawu:


Chief we are believing in numbers. I have said this with my full chest. The Military should improve on its loose ends.

That’s all

And that made me to ask you why are we lacking manpower if we are believing in numbers? Don't make claims thinking you can't be challenged.

EricBraven:

When you are tasked for a duty, you make use of the available resources provided.
When you say we are using numbers to persecute this war then i am forced to ask you,how did you come to that conclusion.
The TOC is vast and cut across border,we also do not have the required vehicles (formally we roll out men in soft skin vehicle at the begging of the war) but the reduction of soft skin vehicle has started.
The rate at which we lose men have also reduce incase you don't kniw

This is the same guy that doubted the initial claim that only 4 people died during the ambush that killed the senior officer.
He was speculating higher numbers of troops died with the general, because of rank, that's why I said he exaggerate things so much.
Even some people here were saying over 15 to 20 soldiers died with the general, because of his rank, till ISWAP confirmed it was only 4.
People don't use they brain, but with their biased minds.

Roan77:


And that made me to ask you why are we lacking manpower if we are believing in numbers? Don't make claims thinking you can't be challenged.

Probably he won't give an answer

In as much it annoys me that the military is always in defensive strategy, and repelling attacks, I expected them to be in offensive mode, hit this guys hard enough, like in 2015, let rest once and for all.

Early this week I said iswap was moving to damboa today iswap attack damboa but could withstand fire for 20 min before running. Air force made contact with some of escaping gun truck and destroyed it . Tomorrow to Sunday (let no say anything yet)

Roan77:


This is the same guy that doubted the initial claim that only 4 people died during the ambush that killed the senior officer.
He was speculating higher numbers of troops died with the general, because of rank, that's why I said he exaggerate things so much.
Even some people here were saying over 15 to 20 soldiers died with the general, because of his rank, till ISWAP confirmed it was only 4.
People don't use they brain, but with their biased minds.

A Brigadier Leads a Brigade. If he dies in Battle definitely even a baby will believe soldiers have gone down in numbers until a reliable news prove otherwise.

Your quote on people don’t use their brains is unnecessary Because people have a different opinion from you.

Like a said do away with emotions in regards to opinions

Roan77:
In as much it annoys me that the military is always in defensive strategy, and repelling attacks, I expected them to be in offensive mode, hit this guys hard enough, like in 2015, let rest once and for all.

This is all we want. But such opinions might be regarded brainless here on this thread

JOSCOFELIX:
Early this week I said iswap was moving to damboa today iswap attack damboa but could withstand fire for 20 min before running. Air force made contact with some of escaping gun truck and destroyed it . Tomorrow to Sunday (let no say anything yet)

That Damboa area has always been a hot zone even during JAS era. They should carry out a clearance operation around the vicinity.

I miss that town shaaaa. I don’t know if Madam Kolo our sure supplement woman still Dey there self.

SamuelAnyawu:


That Damboa area has always been a hot zone even during JAS era. They should carry out a clearance operation around the vicinity.

I miss that town shaaaa. I don’t know if Madam Kolo our sure supplement woman still Dey there self.

they came for the brigade commander remember he launch offensive in askism uba after 28 task force commander fell. The man don fall many iswap commander down to fighter. Iswap picture release this week is fake the track apc was capture from 3 week ago from an outpost and not askism uba. But the commander have order troop to go after them 4 sf just left there base few minutes ago

SamuelAnyawu:


A Brigadier Leads a Brigade. If he dies in Battle definitely even a baby will believe soldiers have gone down in numbers until a reliable news prove otherwise.

Your quote on people don’t use their brains is unnecessary Because people have a different opinion from you.

Like a said do away with emotions in regards to opinions

So now the reliable source you were waiting for, confirmed that 4 died in the ambush, so have your doubts cleared now?

I was the one that literally said you, and other Nigerians are too emotional and dramatic, don't try to use it against me.
I don't use emotions when making an opinion, I use my brain, and I called out BS, when I see one, I don't lick Arse.

JOSCOFELIX:
Early this week I said iswap was moving to damboa today iswap attack damboa but could withstand fire for 20 min before running. Air force made contact with some of escaping gun truck and destroyed it . Tomorrow to Sunday (let no say anything yet)

This is I'm saying, we keep repelling, repelling, being in defensive mode, we should be in an offensive position now, and take the battle to them, enough of this repelling.

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