IronGalaxy:
Lol . Why then do you appear butthurt when we wanna do as we please in our country?

No, I'm not ooo. But you can't do as you please under UN charter.

stevebond007:

1) You get things twisted. Nigerians are not cowards that don't want to fix their country, you are wrong. But I can't convince you, further, so let's not go further.

2) Nigerians are one of the most educated migrants in the world, not just African migrants. End up in Walmart? Many of em, are in the corporate world in U.S.A.

3) It's ok to say some" wants white recolonization but I assure that's negligible. And from an extremist lot.

4) The inequality in S.A has increased from 94, the foreigners exit won't solve it. And the riots won't either.

5) Yeah SA youths are as you said, we wish you well. I rest my case. Lady.
I can't convince you.

1. How does one fix their country when most of the youth want to run to other countries even without skills?

2. Comprehension is a problem hey? . I said African migrants were said to be the most educated ,and Nigerians having such a huge population and jappa culture would obviously have more numbers among those Africans than others. I never said there are no Africans or nigrians working in the corporate world ,but it is still unlikely for an African to be admitted in these positions compared to other races with less education.

3. I didn't generalise I said some, but from my observation that number is growing daily .

4. Bridging inequality starts with a decent wage for those at the bottom ,and ofcourse many other things must be implemented but the wage for the underskilled will improve . I hope you guys have solid plans for dealing with your the worst poverty in the world and run away youth.


5. I wish you well as well son.

stevebond007:


No, I'm not ooo. But you can't do as you please under UN charter.

This back and forth and name-calling is because people are angry we wanna do as we please in our own country isn't that so?

IronGalaxy:
This back and forth and name-calling is because people are angry we wanna do as we please in our own country isn't that so?

As you please. The anger is long stemmed though.

IronGalaxy:
Don't give a flying fvck about your predictions, you ain't Nostradamus. it's 2021, some countries are launching high-speed trains, Egypt is building the new Cairo and you are celebrating road marking on one road. LMFAO. weren't you also celebrating locomotive trains a few years earlier coon? Like I said, you are rooted firmly in stone age

Stop

Lionessza6:


I'm glad you were humbled my boy . You can keep being sentimental or you can face the facts ,that's on you........but the truth is not going to change;

I wasn't humbled by anybody. I stated facts from the beginning of my argument and it still remains that South Africans are ultimately responsible for their own
problems. Yet they never admit.

The people who stole the wealth of the black population are not ready to give it up so they deceive you people into fighting those who are not your enemies


Your late Zulu King blaming migrants for problems in his domain did and will not help the plight of the average Zulu man.

Your people are hooked on drugs and alcohol because they are frustrated out of economic opportunities. It's not the Zims, Nigerians, Somalis or whatever.

Are Nigerians the cause of your widespread HIV pandemic? Are Zims the cause of your poorly performing Eskom and their load shedding?

It's you and your government. Stop the blame game.

JAWBONE:


There's a difference between loving foreigners and kissing their ass. Here in Nigeria, no white man can make anybody feel inferior. The white population are 99% expatriates. We don't have a problem of racial domination.

About hating ourselves, Nigerians are very competitive
A country of over 200 ethnic groups, there is bound to be friction. And that friction is mostly political.

You are not fooling anyone

JAWBONE:


I wasn't humbled by anybody. I stated facts from the beginning of my argument and it still remains that South Africans are ultimately responsible for their own problems.
Your late Zulu King blaming migrants for problems in his domain did and will not help the plight of the average Zulu man.

Your people are hooked on drugs and alcohol because they are frustrated out of economic opportunities. It's not the Zims, Nigerians, Somalis or whatever. It's you and your government. Stop the blame game

Are undocumented immigrants blameless in everything? if not then why mustn't we blame then if blame is warranted? You are running in circles now is kinda boring.

stevebond007:


Let them do as they please. It's their country shaa. No one supports nefarious activities. My one is there is more to SA than just foreigners.
Good morning

Yes... Every country has her problem even the USA.

Lionessza6:


Dude,Nigeria would be a better place if there were many people who reason like you. I wish you well on your journey, and I'd advise you to not stay in places like Hillbrow if you make it to South Africa because one of these days that place will be flowing with blood and you being a Nigerian might get caught up in it. SA politicians are about to sacrifice certain immigrant groups (after their embarrassing performance at the polls few weeks back).

Thanks.. I doubt I will choose to stay in SA though

LeSudAfricaine:
Are undocumented immigrants blameless in everything? if not then why mustn't we blame then if blame is warranted? You are running in circles now is kinda boring.

Nope. Never said they were not blameless. But the way you people go about it, every problem in South Africa is caused by migrants. There might be pockets of crime here and there caused by migrants but the root of your problem does not come from the migrant population. They are too small to cause such huge impact

Lionessza6:



I wish I could like your post a thousand more times. This is exactly what we're saying, if you have the skills needed by South Africa, welcome home ,just respect the laws of the country. We are housing many professionals from the rest of the continent from tech guys to doctors, none of them complains of "xenophobia " that's because they're not a nuisance but people that have made themselves valuable to the host community. Unfortunately most African immigrants in SA have no needed skills ,so they resort to crime and being cheap labourers. This directly affects the poorest South Africans in two ways;1. it is them who have their children destroyed via human trafficking rings and drugs. 2. Jobs like waiters ,security, cleaners etc are now dominated by foreigners, why? Because foreigners don't care about a decent salary,and have no rights to complain to any employer, so if you employ them you get away with a lot ,you can molest them ,not pay them or simply just dismiss them for talking back at you . This is something you can't get away with the locals.

Nigerians and zimbos are the worst and they're actually the immigrants that are going to cause the next brutal attacks,especially Zimbos they're now trending every day. The arrogance and them dismissing the impact of their unwanted stay in South Africa has a lot of people breathing fire on the ground and soon they will lash out. Sane people are even on Twitter engaging these Zimbos,asking them how can South Africans help them in order to get their house in order so they can go back . Guess what they say ," this is Africa for Africans ,why dont you chase out white people " . Funny enough they chased out white people ,without any solid long term plan and are now waiters and car guards with their phds . The irony.


Why is the government of SA allowing this? They need a distraction from their incompetence and to shield the real perpetrators of evil in South Africa who are the 1% elite who have businesses all over Africa. So they need these African immigrants to shield them from the populace,while they're plundering the country, your local poor person has to deal with some criminal from Nigeria or fight with a Zimbo for menial jobs. These people won't give a dam about the real wealth of the country, they just want to survive and live in peace ,and guess who becomes their main problem now, the immigrant. So this whole thing is engineerineed from outside of the continent with greedy SA leaders and big business owners working for them . Now that the ANC was humbled during the elections, they will start using the migration issue to kiss the arses of South Africans and the migrants will suffer. That's what I meant by weaponisation of illegals in South Africa, and not just here ,look at USA and them ,even USA citizens are up in arms and they're a 1st world country, now imagine the impact of this nonsense on a developing country like SA that is surrounded by poor nations. What pisses me off is the fact that when you say this ,immigrants will say "then why don't you fight your government " . This is coming from people who ran away from their own governments . Zimbos can't even protest in their own country yet want to advise others on how to handle their own affairs . It's not just them but most of the migrant community, they're experts on SA issues and have all the solutions, but when you ask about their solutions for their homes ,they start crying hate and afrophobia

Sorry for the long epistle

Don't apologise! You should blog or vlog,srsly-you see things clearly.

JAWBONE:


Nope. Never said they were not blameless. But the way you people go about it, every problem in South Africa is caused by migrants. There might be pockets of crime here and there caused by migrants but the root of your problem does not come from the migrant population. They are too small to cause such huge impact

Stop acting like they aren't a problem then. @The bolded is your perception and when police stats say gauteng crime has 60% foreign elements then it's more than just packets of here and there, it is real concern.

Lionessza6:



1. How does one fix their country when most of the youth want to run to other countries even without skills?

2. Comprehension is a problem hey? . I said African migrants were said to be the most educated ,and Nigerians having such a huge population and jappa culture would obviously have more numbers among those Africans than others. I never said there are no Africans or nigrians working in the corporate world ,but it is still unlikely for an African to be admitted in these positions compared to other races with less education.

3. I didn't generalise I said some, but from my observation that number is growing daily .

4. Bridging inequality starts with a decent wage for those at the bottom ,and ofcourse many other things must be implemented but the wage for the underskilled will improve . I hope you guys have solid plans for dealing with your the worst poverty in the world and run away youth.


5. I wish you well as well son.

1) A phase. That would subside. Don't ruffle your feathers
2) Your last statement is mix with misconception. Many work in corporate world, despite been foreigners compared to other races.
3) Your stat is just fallacy. Nigerians are calling for restructuring, and more resource equity, not for white colonization. Equity in the sense of more control of resource by state and the people, unlike diamond mines.

4) I assure you, you will soon see. Restructuring is the watchword

Sawubona.

LeSudAfricaine:
Stop

Ay'khale madoda ...Ay'khaleeee

JAWBONE:


Nope. Never said they were not blameless. But the way you people go about it, every problem in South Africa is caused by migrants. There might be pockets of crime here and there caused by migrants but the root of your problem does not come from the migrant population. They are too small to cause such huge impact

Rest

JaceBlaze:
Ay'khale madoda ...Ay'khaleeee

Abashwe

JAWBONE:


I wasn't humbled by anybody. I stated facts from the beginning of my argument and it still remains that South Africans are ultimately responsible for their own
problems. Yet they never admit.

The people who stole the wealth of the black population are not ready to give it up so they deceive you people into fighting those who are not your enemies


Your late Zulu King blaming migrants for problems in his domain did and will not help the plight of the average Zulu man.

Your people are hooked on drugs and alcohol because they are frustrated out of economic opportunities. It's not the Zims, Nigerians, Somalis or whatever.

Are Nigerians the cause of your widespread HIV pandemic? Are Zims the cause of your poorly performing Eskom and their load shedding?

It's you and your government. Stop the blame game.

Ok now you're just reaching, we've said it before and we're saying it again, where blame is warranted, you shall get. And we've given enough reasons. Now, where do immigrants have to do with Eskom and HIV? indeed go rest man

IronGalaxy:
Abashwe

One way ...

JAWBONE:


I wasn't humbled by anybody. I stated facts from the beginning of my argument and it still remains that South Africans are ultimately responsible for their own
problems. Yet they never admit.

The people who stole the wealth of the black population are not ready to give it up so they deceive you people into fighting those who are not your enemies


Your late Zulu King blaming migrants for problems in his domain did and will not help the plight of the average Zulu man.

Your people are hooked on drugs and alcohol because they are frustrated out of economic opportunities. It's not the Zims, Nigerians, Somalis or whatever.

Are Nigerians the cause of your widespread HIV pandemic? Are Zims the cause of your poorly performing Eskom and their load shedding?

It's you and your government. Stop the blame game.

LMFAO, Jesus! The lack of logic from these Unilag graduates ,see the effects of attending cult infested Universities?

Lionessza6:



LMFAO, Jesus! The lack of logic from these Unilag graduates ,see the effects of attending cult infested Universities?

Mumu, shey Na everybody wey from 9ja be UNILAG graduate. Abi dem tell you say all of us follow join for cult matter.

Una go just open mouth dey yarn dust. No wonder una no know wetin dey cause una problem. People wey get country but dey live like say dem be efulefu

LeSudAfricaine:
Ok now you're just reaching, we've said it before and we're saying it again, where blame is warranted, you shall get. And we've given enough reasons. Now, where do immigrants have to do with Eskom and HIV? indeed go rest man

Ejecting migrants from your country won't solve your problems. The topic of this thread is about South Africans telling their politicians to deport foreigners if they want their vote. How Xenophobic can you be.

And I'm telling you people that even if every foreigner is deported, your problems will remain.

No country in Africa whines about immigrants the way South Africans does. If it's not looting shops of migrants, or burning and killing other people.

Yet you people who are supposed to be educated keep stoking the anti-migrant sentiment

IronGalaxy:
Tell you what> why don't we compare the achievements of the ANC with those of your government of 60 years. the real embarrassment will sure emerge

As Nigerians, we all accept that we have had bad leadership and below par performance. We know we have problems and we are working on fixing it. Out attempt at solving our problems might not work but we don't blame foreigners for it. We blame ourselves and one day, maybe one day, we would start having good leaders.

Your lazy lot of drug addicts blame everyone else for their woes. A nation that was rescued from slavery by the collective efforts of other African countries suddenly now want these same Africans out.

ANC came to power to a government that was already working. A ready-made system. Yet what have you achieved with this? Unemployment rate keeps going high....

You have the highest unemployment rate in the world.

Most of your youths are uneducated and unskilled. Yes Unemployment is high in Nigeria but our youths have basic education and are ready to work. Once we get our governance right, we would be on the right track.

You are like the beautiful prostitute who is not 60 years old but thinks she is still the queen of the turf.

Hate Nigeria as much as you can but always remember we will resolve our issues and we are not afraid of foreigners. We love them and we have always welcomed them including your lot of oppressed souls.

PS: LeSudAfricaine come and pick your own share here

JAWBONE:


Mumu, shey Na everybody wey from 9ja be UNILAG graduate. Abi dem tell you say all of us follow join for cult matter.

Una go just open mouth dey yarn dust. No wonder una no know wetin dey cause una problem. People wey get country but dey live like say dem be efulefu

LMFAO, my naija broda relax na,Wetin I do you ? . I no wanna cos wahala for your health na,abi you wan die young ,biko abeg comot for this topic before u fall down for heart attack .

Lionessza6:


LMFAO, my naija broda relax na,Wetin I do you ? . I no wanna cos wahala for your health na,abi you wan die young ,biko abeg comot for this topic before u fall down for heart attack .

4/10

Lionessza6:



Guys let's leave our hardworking African brothers to murder and rape us ,and go after whites who arent an immediate threat to us .......
Calling for law and order is afrophobia....
Let's be loving and let savages who destroyed their own countries come here and destroy ours

I have been waiting for your response and you didn't disappoint.

If we are being honest, the whites have done more and are still doing more damage to the blacks especially in South Africa.

Black south Africans should use the same energy on other black Africans on the whites too.

Geenosko:


I have been waiting for your response and you didn't disappoint.

If we are being honest, the whites have done more and are still doing more damage to the blacks especially in South Africa.

Black south Africans should use the same energy on other black Africans on the whites too.

LMFAO, I'm not disappointed by your vitriol either.

1. When are you going to channel your energies in fixing your fckd up nation ?
2. Who the fck are you to dismiss people's serious concerns and divert their attention to something else that's not an immediate threat to them ?
3. Show me white people who are in SA looking for menial jobs ,who kidnap ,drug and rape people every day.

Stay on the topic,why do I suspect you're an illegal .

JAWBONE:


4/10

Efulefu, tufiwa .

Lionessza6:



LMFAO, I'm not disappointed by your vitriol either.

1. When are you going to channel your energies in fixing your fckd up nation ?
2. Who the fck are you to dismiss people's serious concerns and divert their attention to something else that's not an immediate threat to them ?
3. Show me white people who are in SA looking for menial jobs ,who kidnap ,drug and rape people every day.

Stay on the topic,why do I suspect you're an illegal .

Awwwww, I must have touched a nerve. It's very unlike you to be using swear words you are usually very civil in your responses.

1. I'm doing my tiny bit.
2. I'm just saying if you guys have the "balls" to reclaim the means of production from the whites...

Black South Africans also look for menial jobs, kidnap ,drug and rape people every day. so what's your point? Criminality has no gender.

Don't get me started on GBV, or is it immigrants that caused that too?

Na, I'm not illegal

Finally read this slowly

No immigrant has taken your job. You were laid off by a capitalist who required cheap labor and took advantage of that immigrant to increase his profits, and nothing makes him happier than to hear you blame the immigrant and not him.


I'm sure you have heard of White Monopoly Capital abi?

I really like engaging you but today, you have let emotions becloud you usual logical way of reasoning.

This is a documentary on inequality by DW, watch it and be honest with yourself. I know immigrants do shady stuff but they aren't the cause of South Africa's problem



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71-jlOvrUFc

About that post you sent about 60% of people arrested for crime for Gauteng are illegal immigrants, it's pure nonsense. See why here

https://issafrica.org/iss-today/do-foreigners-really-commit-sas-most-violent-crimes

JAWBONE:


Nope. Never said they were not blameless. But the way you people go about it, every problem in South Africa is caused by migrants. There might be pockets of crime here and there caused by migrants but the root of your problem does not come from the migrant population. They are too small to cause such huge impact

Millions of Zimbabweans alone is a small number?

IronGalaxy:
People wanna do as they please in South Africa then raise Xenophobia as a defence.

This is an incursion mos.