LeSudAfricaine:
This guy talks so much but understands very little of what's going on. Nigeria probably has immigrants from nearby Chad, Benin, Niger or Togo, South Africa even attracts Sri Lankans, Pakistanis etc all low skilled. Does he even know that Somalis open shops in the hood but make their own versions of stock putting our people in health risks. LOL.

Lionessza6:


Are you high?
Why do you think every sane nation is scared of the influx or illegals......they are difficult to trace which makes it difficult to bring them to justice.

Lionessza6:

A South African criminal or permanent resident is easier to catch.........fingerprints and id ....they have to use an id at the bank, school,work etc. If cops really want to find a SA criminal they usually do. So jail and prison stats wont reflect the he whole picture. And this is SA,so it would be silly to think that they'd be more foreign prisoners than locals. But we can't overlook that there are certain heinous crimes dominated by aliens.

TMKsouth:


These pics were making the rounds on WhatsApp last week

TMKsouth:


These pics were making the rounds on WhatsApp last week

TMKsouth:


These pics were making the rounds on WhatsApp last week

Teslason:

This is insane!!!

LeSudAfricaine:
You see? Are Nigerians facing the same with their immigrant population? If not. Shut up man you don't know what we're facing

LeSudAfricaine:
Of course, we speak'we are labelled "hateful" or "xenophobic". People are tired on so many fronts man

morpheus24:


Anecdotal evidence to fit your narrative.

for every one of these so called Somali spaza criminals there are a 100 Somalis minding their business and living out their daily lives.

Your reasoning is like comparing the success rate of a rapper in the hoods of America making it to become a Jay z.

for every Jay z, there are a 1000 rappers who will never make it but because you see Jay z rapping on TV everyday you believe that 50% of rappers will make it and make money.

Olodo!

morpheus24:


You are xenophobic because you have a fear of foreigners in general.

You should be instead be scelerophobic which is the healthy fear of crime in general.

LeSudAfricaine:
That's your opinion.

morpheus24:


No. That is fact corroborated by hard evidence.

LeSudAfricaine:
Here's the bottom line. There are no South Africans criminals in Harare snatching phones from Zimbabweans, likewise we don't have South Africans in Mogadishu mixing harmful concoctions for their people. We dont need this in our country. This is as simple as it gets.

LeSudAfricaine:
Here's the bottom line. There are no South Africans criminals in Harare snatching phones from Zimbabweans, likewise we don't have South Africans in Mogadishu mixing harmful concoctions for their people.

morpheus24:


I applaud these efforts. I have nothing against tackling individuals or organizations who engage in criminal activity be it Foreign or domestic. They harm everyone that lives in the society and not only "SOUTH AFRICANS".

a Pakistani selling monkey brained shawarma will sell it to a Congolese or Rwandan not so?

Now of the estimated 5 million legal immigrants, illegal migrants, economic migrants and refugees can you give us an estimate of the proportion that you think are involved in all forms of criminal activity as a percentage of the entire 5 million immigrant population is SA?

In addition can you juxtapose this to the statistical number of reported crimes ( all levels) of South Africans and juxtapose it to your entire population.

In other words if I had a daughter living any where in Gauteng what would be the probability of her being attacked by a South African as opposed to a foreign national??

TMKsouth:


Or South Africans in Nigeria selling nyaope (mkupu mmiri).

morpheus24:


illogical reasoning.

Point 1. Who buys the Nyaope?

Point 2. If the Nigerians are eliminated as suppliers of this "consumed" product mainly in Gauteng will that eliminate drug use, reduce the number of junkies? What is the statistical reference to support his assertion.

Case in point. The war on drugs in America is still existent and even more intense today than it was in the 80's. Central and South American drug cartels still heavily active in the US. The US still the biggest consumer of this "product".

Simpletons.

TMKsouth:


I repeat... When your relative's children misbehave in your home you send them back to their parents and deal with your own children afterwards.

TMKsouth:

How dare people come from their own countries to commit crimes in someone else's country and then some Morpheus guy sitting in Nigeria says we must tolerate it coz we also have criminals. Won't happen in SA son.

TMKsouth:


Why are u actively making excuses for criminals? Don't u know drugs destroy lives?

morpheus24:

I personally don't have any issue with a country as official policy stating that they no longer want a particular set of people to come to their "sovereign", but do you mean all Nigerians or criminal elements, be clear on your gripe.

If all Nigerians then lobby your government to close the stop issuing visas to Nationals of this country or permanently close your borders.

^{[/sup] This is already happening. Go though the SA visa thread in the Travel section and read how 80% of the people there are being denied entry. [sup]}


You are a buffon. My statements have clearly indicated that I do not advocate anyone tolerating criminal activity and I dare you to find where I have ever implied that.

^{[/sup] You keep making excuses for Nigerian criminals and victim blaming. Check yourself - you're sick. [sup]}

TMKsouth:



Often Nigerians introduce young people to the drugs and they become customers for life. Women are drugged and turned into prostitutes at brothels run by Nigerians. That's your pathetic reputation in SA.

https://www.nairaland.com/6846947/nigerian-man-handed-5-life-terms

morpheus24:


This is why I know you are slow in the brain and must go back to school.

I am making a comparison of two similar situations in which the solution embarked by a more powerful country with far more resources available a their disposal to fight "drug crime" ended up with little results and juxtaposed that to your so called "solution" to ending "drug crime" in South Africa to make that point that because the "demand" is strong for a particular "commodity" the elimination of its supplier factors will very likely create other supply chains and activity.

You are a dimwitt.

TMKsouth:


You get youths addicted to drugs and then blame them afterwards calling it a market.and demand? You're sick.

Your brother got 5 life terms just last week for doing exactly that.

Nigerian Man Handed 5 Life-terms For Rape & Human Trafficking In SA
https://www.nairaland.com/6846947/nigerian-man-handed-5-life-terms

morpheus24:


The statement above is factually true of Nigerian criminal activity that occurs in South Africa. However there is also a reputation that many of the doctors in South Africa that treat and save South African lives on daily basis are SOuth African as well.

It is convienient for you to imbibe the negative reputation into your psyche as a justifiable reason for the problems that exist in your society but non the less lop sided.

As a percentage of all Nigerians in SA, what proportion do you think engage in this nefarious activity. 20, 30, 40, 50%.

Prey tell.

IronGalaxy:
Lol, they are many, Transcriber is coming..

TMKsouth:


Show me a single news article of a Nigerian doctor that was attacked in SA.

All these attacks happen in well-known drug & brothel hotspots. [b]Imagine having whole towns in SA were Nigerian drug dealing dominates. [/b]Isn't that absolutely shameful in someone else's country? And then u wanna avert attention away from that. Those are seriously futile efforts on your part buddy - focus those efforts on condemning Nigerian criminality and blowing the whistle on those who engage in these activities. Then anti-Nigeria sentiments will decrease.

morpheus24:


We see what it is that we want to see Mfethu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nodU6jz4dhY

TMKsouth:


I see and acknowledge Nigerian doctors in SA. You denying seeing whole towns that are Nigerian drugs and brothel hotspots such as Berea, Yeoville, Hillbrow, Orange Grove and Rosetenville. And that's just in Johannesburg alone.

morpheus24:


I have repeated this a million times on this forum. If you aware that these areas are hotspots that makes the task of South African law enforcement very easy neh. You know where these set of "nigerians" reside why is it that you cannot catch them red handed and deport en masse?

morpheus24:


So you are against Nigerians who sell drugs and engage brothels. I get it now

We have no disagreement on that. I am with you on that.

now what next?

TMKsouth:


And I've also said it a million times that people have lost confidence in law enforcement authorities because drug dealing and fraud are lucrative and therefore cop bribery is prevalent. That's why communities take the law into their own hands.

TMKsouth:

That's why people have turned to politicians like Mashaba who promise to deal with this problem decisively and "clean" the streets of Joburg - that's why he did so well in the recent elections even as a new entrant.