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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 4:41pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
LeSudAfricaine: These pics were making the rounds on WhatsApp last week 2 Likes
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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 4:44pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
Lionessza6: yet South the commissioner of police can safely state that 60% of suspects of violent crimes in "GAUTENG" are foreign nationals. Hmmm? Lionessza6: To rebut the point on the so called inability for law enforcement to identify NON SOUTH AFRICANS during arrests means when you catch a Malawian foreign national, arrest him, finger print him and he comes up no within the system, you can't investigate further to determine that he has no "South African" identity at that point? Hmmm? So a Nigerian criminal can claim origins in South Africa just by stating that he is Zulu neh!. There are not other means to determine if he is non South African when he is apprehended. Bunch of bull crap. As against your little dubious post there on 60% of arrests in Gauteng being foreign nationals here is an excerpt from an article countering the so called stats on that information. This is why you guys need to investigate such statements.
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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 4:45pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
here are your stats on foreign nationals jailed in SA prisons https://www.pressreader.com/south-africa/cape-times/20190716/281715501194044
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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by Teslason(m): 4:47pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth:This is insane!!! 1 Like |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 4:56pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: I applaud these efforts. I have nothing against tackling individuals or organizations who engage in criminal activity be it Foreign or domestic. They harm everyone that lives in the society and not only "SOUTH AFRICANS". a Pakistani selling monkey brained shawarma will sell it to a Congolese or Rwandan not so? Now of the estimated 5 million legal immigrants, illegal migrants, economic migrants and refugees can you give us an estimate of the proportion that you think are involved in all forms of criminal activity as a percentage of the entire 5 million immigrant population is SA? In addition can you juxtapose this to the statistical number of reported crimes ( all levels) of South Africans and juxtapose it to your entire population. In other words if I had a daughter living any where in Gauteng what would be the probability of her being attacked by a South African as opposed to a foreign national?? |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by LeSudAfricaine: 4:58pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth:You see? Are Nigerians facing the same with their immigrant population? If not. Shut up man you don't know what we're facing |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by LeSudAfricaine: 5:01pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
Teslason:Of course, we speak'we are labelled "hateful" or "xenophobic". People are tired on so many fronts man 1 Like |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:02pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
LeSudAfricaine: Anecdotal evidence to fit your narrative. for every one of these so called Somali spaza criminals there are a 100 Somalis minding their business and living out their daily lives. Your reasoning is like comparing the success rate of a rapper in the hoods of America making it to become a Jay z. for every Jay z, there are a 1000 rappers who will never make it but because you see Jay z rapping on TV everyday you believe that 50% of rappers will make it and make money. Olodo! |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:05pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
LeSudAfricaine: You are xenophobic because you have a fear of foreigners in general. You should be instead be scelerophobic which is the healthy fear of crime in general. |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by LeSudAfricaine: 5:07pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24:Here's the bottom line. There are no South Africans criminals in Harare snatching phones from Zimbabweans, likewise we don't have South Africans in Mogadishu mixing harmful concoctions for their people. We dont need this in our country. This is as simple as it gets. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by LeSudAfricaine: 5:08pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24:That's your opinion. |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:10pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
LeSudAfricaine: No. That is fact corroborated by hard evidence. |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by LeSudAfricaine: 5:12pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24:That's your opinion 1 Like |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:14pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
LeSudAfricaine: I don't think anyone says you should tolerate criminality by any foreign national within your shores. A Nigerian criminal is a Nigerian criminal anywhere he operates. If you wish to eliminate all Nigerians from coming to SA as a final solution to ending these issues then its a "simple" solution. Lobby your government officials to close the consulate and embassy in Nigeria and stop issuing visas of all kinds to ALL Nigerian nationals and let it be known that they are no longer welcome in your country. Why do you think this is a difficult thing to do neh? |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 5:26pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
LeSudAfricaine: Or South Africans in Nigeria selling nyaope (mkupu mmiri). 2 Likes |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 5:29pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24: I repeat... When your relative's children misbehave in your home you send them back to their parents and deal with your own children afterwards. How dare people come from their own countries to commit crimes in someone else's country and then some Morpheus guy sitting in Nigeria says we must tolerate it coz we also have criminals. Won't happen in SA son. 2 Likes |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:32pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: illogical reasoning. Point 1. Who buys the Nyaope? Point 2. If the Nigerians are eliminated as suppliers of this "consumed" product mainly in Gauteng will that eliminate drug use, reduce the number of junkies? What is the statistical reference to support his assertion. Case in point. The war on drugs in America is still existent and even more intense today than it was in the 80's. Central and South American drug cartels still heavily active in the US. The US still the biggest consumer of this "product". Simpletons. |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 5:35pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24: Why are u actively making excuses for criminals? Victim blaming. Don't u know drugs are highly addictive and destroy lives? Often Nigerians introduce young people to the drugs and they become customers for life. Women are drugged and turned into prostitutes at brothels run by Nigerians. That's your pathetic reputation in SA. https://www.nairaland.com/6846947/nigerian-man-handed-5-life-terms 3 Likes |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:37pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth:I personally don't have any issue with a country as official policy stating that they no longer want a particular set of people to come to their "sovereign", but do you mean all Nigerians or criminal elements, be clear on your gripe. If all Nigerians then lobby your government to close the stop issuing visas to Nationals of this country or permanently close your borders. Why is this difficult to achieve if there is a general concensus in the country. TMKsouth: You are a buffon. My statements have clearly indicated that I do not advocate anyone tolerating criminal activity and I dare you to find where I have ever implied that. |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:40pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: This is why I know you are slow in the brain and must go back to school. I am making a comparison of two similar situations in which the solution embarked by a more powerful country with far more resources available a their disposal to fight "drug crime" ended up with little results and juxtaposed that to your so called "solution" to ending "drug crime" in South Africa to make that point that because the "demand" is strong for a particular "commodity" the elimination of its supplier factors will very likely create other supply chains and activity. You are a dimwitt. |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 5:43pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:44pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: The statement above is factually true of Nigerian criminal activity that occurs in South Africa. However there is also a reputation that many of the doctors in South Africa that treat and save South African lives on daily basis live in SOuth African as well. It is convienient for you to imbibe the negative reputation into your psyche as a justifiable reason for the problems that exist in your society but non the less lop sided. As a percentage of all Nigerians in SA, what proportion do you think engage in this nefarious activity. 20, 30, 40, 50%. Prey tell. |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 5:46pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24: You get youths addicted to drugs and then blame them afterwards calling it a market.and demand? You're sick. Your brother got 5 life terms just last week for doing exactly that. Nigerian Man Handed 5 Life-terms For Rape & Human Trafficking In SA https://www.nairaland.com/6846947/nigerian-man-handed-5-life-terms 2 Likes
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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:53pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: We see what it is that we want to see Mfethu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nodU6jz4dhY |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 5:56pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24: Show me a single news article of a Nigerian doctor that was attacked in SA. All these attacks happen in well-known drug & brothel hotspots. Imagine having whole towns in SA were Nigerian drug dealing dominates. Isn't that absolutely shameful in someone else's country? And then u wanna avert attention away from that. Those are seriously futile efforts on your part buddy - focus on condemning Nigerian criminality and blowing the whistle on those who engage in these activities. Then anti-Nigeria sentiments will decrease. 2 Likes
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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by Transcriber: 5:57pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
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Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 5:59pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: So you are against Nigerians who sell drugs and engage brothels. I get it now We have no disagreement on that. I am with you on that. now what next? |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 6:03pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24: I see and acknowledge Nigerian doctors in SA because we issued them with working visas. You denying seeing whole towns that are Nigerian drugs and brothel hotspots such as Berea, Yeoville, Hillbrow, Orange Grove and Rosetenville. And that's just in Johannesburg alone. What a "hustling" menace. 2 Likes |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 6:05pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: I have repeated this a million times on this forum. If you aware that these areas are hotspots that makes the task of South African law enforcement very easy neh. You know where these set of "nigerians" reside why is it that you cannot catch them red handed and deport en masse? |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 6:11pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24: And I've also said it a million times that people have lost confidence in law enforcement authorities because drug dealing and fraud are lucrative and therefore cop bribery is prevalent. That's why communities take the law into their own hands. That's why people have turned to politicians like Mashaba who promise to deal with this problem decisively and "clean" the streets of Joburg - that's why he did so well in the recent elections even as a new entrant. 2 Likes |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by TMKsouth: 6:14pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
morpheus24: We want to regain control of the immigration system and have vetted people that we actually want in the country, and with critical skills or seeking asylum from anywhere in the world. Not all of Africa and it's criminals. 3 Likes |
Re: Deport Foreign Nationals And Get Our Votes: South Africans Tell Julius Malema by morpheus24: 6:23pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
TMKsouth: Point 1. So the government you elected is complacent in your plight? Point 2. So when you target foreign national communities, do you target them all or you target these brothels, hijacked buildings and drug dens? Why do you loot these foreign stores and steal peoples goods? So in your efforts to rid your society of miscreants , "innocents" like your precious South Africans are hurt in the cross fire. Oh I understand now. TMKsouth: If your previous Mayor was a reasonable man I could reason with his drive to rid communities of criminal elements, however he does not articulate this in any of the speeches I have heard and simply positions himself as a savior of all things wrong in Gauteng. A good politician but a terrible leader. He cannot and does not articulate the differences amongst immigrant communities in addressing poignant issues, instead everyone is lumped together and attacked for the dubious purpose of galvanizing your vote. IF you wish to attack criminality then attack criminality first, then come to the subject of perceived competition with unskilled labor forces in South Africa. I have heard most of his speeches and sorry my friend that man instigates rather than communicates. My opinion. |
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