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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nelszx: 6:22pm On Nov 19, 2021
forgiveness:
Yes! We can can as well pick players from Agege or Ajegunle because we might see players that can suit our tactics since Osimhen keeps missing goals, and co are not living up to expectations.
If they are good and have what it takes why not. Afterall keshi picked an academy player and handed him no. 10 jersey
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 6:32pm On Nov 19, 2021
MetalJigsaw:
Eagles Attacking Problems In The Play-offs
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As we approach the final Play-offs stage of the 2022 FIFA World Cup Qualifying Series which is just a couple of months away, there is need to start mapping out the strategies on how to defeat our next opponent.

The Play-offs round is certainly not going to be easy for all the teams and that is why Gernot Rohr and his coaching staff must start preparing from now.

One area that the Super Eagles must fix in order to cross the last hurdle and book a place in the world Cup at Qatar is the attacking position. This is because the goal ratio of the team has been poor when compared with the past records.

Even though Victor Osimhen has been impressive for the team in the previous games, he still lack partner that can compliment his effort. The Napoli striker needs somebody who can help him utilize the number 9 position of the team. This is why Gernot Rohr needs to bring in Cyriel Dessers to fill the vacuum.

The Feyenoord forward could be deployed to play just behind Victor Osimhen. They can also interchange the position. In this case, there will be no need for a single striker to carry the burden of scoring goals alone as we have seen in the past games.

I believe if Cyriel Dessers is invited, our attacking problem would be solved.
The problem of this team is not the striking department

The problem is in the midfield and wings they're not creative enough

Playing Simon and jamilu on the wing back role affects the team creativity upfront. A midfield of Iwobi (AM) Ejuke and Chuks on both flanks will produce goals and a defense of Akpoguma and balogun as CB can birth goals too from set pieces especially Akpos while Aina/Tyrone be deployed as RB and Zaidu as LB
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 6:36pm On Nov 19, 2021
safarigirl:
If you're working in an office and giving under par performance because the pay is low, should wisdom not propel you to quit the job?

Bear in mind, that every place you work in, is merely an audition for a bigger role, larger pay, a better establishment. So, you put in your best while there, and when you think your best is not being rewarded properly, it is your prerogative to leave while you can still brag, lest all of the work you have done prior loses value.

If NFF no dey pay Rohr well, he should have quit the job since 2019 at most, subjecting us to poor football has not only brought us severe PTSD, it has also caused his own good work early on, to be tarnished.

Do you know a good coach that would never have waited for things to get this bad? Herve Renard is an example. You know a good coach, from the level of mediocrity they are willing to descend to. You cannot pay a decent coach to ruin his CV with mediocrity

Rohr and Ole are in the same WhatsApp group. They are simply not good enough and they never really were.
Maybe he was working and hanging on based on promises.. Remember results wasn't this bad initially.

Rohr has done one thing right, he has invited the best crop of players, he has spotted talent when they are unknown and given them a career, he has raised the bar with the standard of players been called up, the heyyous and useless backwater league players like Turkey have reduced drastically. He hasnt taken us to the dark ages where we had the likes of Oshaniwa, Chiogozie agbim, Egwuekwe, Ruben Gabriel, Uchebor, Ebenezer kunle, Uche Nwofor etc in our squad to the WC!!

His biggest sin is that he has showed poor ability in molding a team that plays NIgerian football. Rather than fire Rohr, he needs a Nigerian Assistant that would ensure we play the attacking style of football. Yobo, Salisu the criminal and eguaveon are all dunderheads.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by 12large1: 6:36pm On Nov 19, 2021
Mujtahida:
12large1
On a second thought and coming off the back of my watching Supersport program on the road to Qatar, I reckon that there's truth to your assertion that increased number of teams for Africa can lead to better performance. Because what it means is that in 2026 when we get 9 teams to represent Africa, the big boys are likely to represent us in good numbers rather than now where they have to play off each other and knock themselves out before qualifying for Qatar 2022.

But then quality of play must improve. Because if you compare the performance of the African giants who qualified for previous WCs against their European and South American peers, you'd see that we have not really lived up to expectation like finding two African teams in the semis. Notwithstanding, I agree with your position.
Look at it this way. By default, European teams were allocated a higher percentage of slots at the World Cup despite not being the most populous continent. It made them win, control and saturated the entire tournament to the extent, that when Africa teams allocation increased, European teams already controlled the World Cup. How can you expect an African team to excel when, they have a low percentage of allocation, unfavorable biased referees even before kick off and elite clubs not investing into African players except for global superstars. The World Cup is just another political ridden agenda that Europe use to colonize the world. It is why, I’m not that enthusiastic about it anymore. A tournament that my own continent has 0% chance of winning and you want me to be jumping like an idiot…. MBA nu
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:41pm On Nov 19, 2021
JohnBullMySon:
NFF might actually be referring to Ndubisi Egbo, who last coached Tirana in Eastern Europe and is currently not on a Job.

He might be the one.
This is one sure bet too o.


Which other Eastern Europe Coaches are available for selection? Shevchenko?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:44pm On Nov 19, 2021
We for take some younger coaches of scand.....yeh who stone me? grin lars Lagerback that year eh grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:54pm On Nov 19, 2021
nelszx:
If they are good and have what it takes why not. Afterall keshi picked an academy player and handed him no. 10 jersey
grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:16pm On Nov 19, 2021
Mujtahida:
Yes Westehof did that but I don't think that template should be extended to contemporary times. My boss usually says that every job should be done at the lowest level competence. What it means is that local coaches should be competent enough to do footballing work at the local level of scouting, training and refining players. Those players will now be funneled to the national team especially nowadays with enhanced competition.
Germany did it as revealed in the book 'Das Reboot: How German Football Reinvented Itself and Conquered the World'.

National team coach to take up the responsibility of developing our football would be too much work in my opinion.
For now, competency must come from somewhere. The grassroots is not doing enough or getting investment to do more.

For now, we have to find an alternative means of smoothening the gap. A sound manager can help plug some gaps.

That was why Westerhof was so involved. Unfortunately, the gaps are still here today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:46pm On Nov 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
For now, competency must come from somewhere. The grassroots is not doing enough or getting investment to do more.

For now, we have to find an alternative means of smoothening the gap. A sound manager can help plug some gaps.

That was why Westerhof was so involved. Unfortunately, the gaps are still here today.
Long term thinking bro. Now that I have become your disciple, no change the song. Long term planning for long run of successes. No stop gaps
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 7:48pm On Nov 19, 2021
Joezinho:
Maybe he was working and hanging on based on promises.. Remember results wasn't this bad initially.

Rohr has done one thing right, he has invited the best crop of players, he has spotted talent when they are unknown and given them a career, he has raised the bar with the standard of players been called up, the heyyous and useless backwater league players like Turkey have reduced drastically. He hasnt taken us to the dark ages where we had the likes of Oshaniwa, Chiogozie agbim, Egwuekwe, Ruben Gabriel, Uchebor, Ebenezer kunle, Uche Nwofor etc in our squad to the WC!!

His biggest sin is that he has showed poor ability in molding a team that plays NIgerian football. Rather than fire Rohr, he needs a Nigerian Assistant that would ensure we play the attacking style of football. Yobo, Salisu the criminal and eguaveon are all dunderheads.
Rohr is too conservative

He spots talent invite them and make them sit on the bench

He can barely read games and make tactical subs

He does not understand tactics neither does he mould his team to play according to tactics

His pattern of play is archaic and barely produce goals and does not even know how to use the talents at his disposal

C'mon that man is a disaster waiting to happen if we don't let him go now we will regret it later mark my words
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:49pm On Nov 19, 2021
Your first two paragraphs is very apt even if we leave this coaching matter.
This is exactly what I have been trying to communicate to my subordinates. But they will never get it. When you give them more responsibilities, they say you are using them for low pay, instead of them to get sense, do the added duties and beef up their resume. They will just be lazying around and not adding value. This is just the truth in life. Work hard, soak all the experience you can, use that to advance yourself elsewhere, else you are just pulling yourself back in life by complaining and going nowhere.

safarigirl:
If you're working in an office and giving under par performance because the pay is low, should wisdom not propel you to quit the job?

Bear in mind, that every place you work in, is merely an audition for a bigger role, larger pay, a better establishment. So, you put in your best while there, and when you think your best is not being rewarded properly, it is your prerogative to leave while you can still brag, lest all of the work you have done prior loses value.

If NFF no dey pay Rohr well, he should have quit the job since 2019 at most, subjecting us to poor football has not only brought us severe PTSD, it has also caused his own good work early on, to be tarnished.

Do you know a good coach that would never have waited for things to get this bad? Herve Renard is an example. You know a good coach, from the level of mediocrity they are willing to descend to. You cannot pay a decent coach to ruin his CV with mediocrity

Rohr and Ole are in the same WhatsApp group. They are simply not good enough and they never really were.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:54pm On Nov 19, 2021
Let's just make Rohr a SCOUT and leave coaching matter for Matthias Sammer.
Joezinho:
Maybe he was working and hanging on based on promises.. Remember results wasn't this bad initially.

Rohr has done one thing right, he has invited the best crop of players, he has spotted talent when they are unknown and given them a career, he has raised the bar with the standard of players been called up, the heyyous and useless backwater league players like Turkey have reduced drastically. He hasnt taken us to the dark ages where we had the likes of Oshaniwa, Chiogozie agbim, Egwuekwe, Ruben Gabriel, Uchebor, Ebenezer kunle, Uche Nwofor etc in our squad to the WC!!

His biggest sin is that he has showed poor ability in molding a team that plays NIgerian football. Rather than fire Rohr, he needs a Nigerian Assistant that would ensure we play the attacking style of football. Yobo, Salisu the criminal and eguaveon are all dunderheads.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 7:59pm On Nov 19, 2021
grin
This is what I was talking about my bro.
We need big mentality. If you have big mentality you will always find a way. And we played like we were in the World Cup for business.

Mujtahida:
My people. I'm just watching Nig v Italy at USA 94. So Nigeria just scored through Amunike. In the next two minutes, Amunike is fouled. While he's been attended to, Camera momentarily pans to show Westehof. The commentator now makes an interesting comment
He says 'that is Clemens Westehof, the coach of Nigeria, he says his team are not here to play at the world cup BUT TO WIN IT.

Omo see mentality!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by g0tze: 8:00pm On Nov 19, 2021
Mujtahida:
My people. I'm just watching Nig v Italy at USA 94. So Nigeria just scored through Amunike. In the next two minutes, Amunike is fouled. While he's been attended to, Camera momentarily pans to show Westehof. The commentator now makes an interesting comment
He says 'that is Clemens Westehof, the coach of Nigeria, he says his team are not here to play at the world cup BUT TO WIN IT.

Omo see mentality!
I don't like remembering that day. It was a dark day in our football history. Each time I keep on wondering if we would have made it to the finals had we defeated Italy. Right now I am down as a result of watching this clip.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:03pm On Nov 19, 2021
g0tze:
I don't like remembering that day. It was a dark day in our football history. Each time I keep on wondering if we would have made it to the finals had we defeated Italy. Right now I am down as a result of watching this clip.
Sorry bro. Cheer up. Our inexperience cost us. We will surely win the world cup one day. Let that thought comfort you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:06pm On Nov 19, 2021
humility33:
The problem of this team is not the striking department

The problem is in the midfield and wings they're not creative enough

Playing Simon and jamilu on the wing back role affects the team creativity upfront. A midfield of Iwobi (AM) Ejuke and Chuks on both flanks will produce goals and a defense of Akpoguma and balogun as CB can birth goals too from set pieces especially Akpos while Aina/Tyrone be deployed as RB and Zaidu as LB
And our wingers should not always think of driving into the final third and cutting back. They should learn to deliver crosses. We have a tall striker for God's sake!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:10pm On Nov 19, 2021
Mujtahida:
Long term thinking bro. Now that I have become your disciple, no change the song. Long term planning for long run of successes. No stop gaps
Been my philosophy for ages. I believe it wholeheartedly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:17pm On Nov 19, 2021
12large1:
Look at it this way. By default, European teams were allocated a higher percentage of slots at the World Cup despite not being the most populous continent. It made them win, control and saturated the entire tournament to the extent, that when Africa teams allocation increased, European teams already controlled the World Cup. How can you expect an African team to excel when, they have a low percentage of allocation, unfavorable biased referees even before kick off and elite clubs not investing into African players except for global superstars. The World Cup is just another political ridden agenda that Europe use to colonize the world. It is why, I’m not that enthusiastic about it anymore. A tournament that my own continent has 0% chance of winning and you want me to be jumping like an idiot…. MBA nu
I agree to increased number of reps for Africa and its already a done deal. Talk football not this colonizers whining talk.

Interestingly do you know that in the USA 94 game in which Nigeria played against Italy, the match referee was a Mexican. Do you know that he sent off Emile Zola and that was a bad decision. Italy were down to 10 men.

The point is that bad officiating is like a stray bullet. It can hit anybody. I don't like this crying victimization talk but if it makes you feel better, carry on.

As for me the world cup represents the pinnacle of footballing experience, a true global fiesta, a flourish and a delightful drama of spectacular, breathless dimensions. I always look forward to it and I have never ascribed political motivations to it not even when Germany robbed South Africa of hosting rights through shady politics.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 8:29pm On Nov 19, 2021
Joebie:
grin
This is what I was talking about my bro.
We need big mentality. If you have big mentality you will always find a way. And we played like we were in the World Cup for business.
Bro, go read the comments on that video on YouTube, many people expressed their appreciation to the Nigerian team for putting up a show worthy of the world cup. That's what big mentality does. Not that you'd be whimpering in a corner saying your team is young. Young and so?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:38pm On Nov 19, 2021
Joezinho:
Maybe he was working and hanging on based on promises.. Remember results wasn't this bad initially.

Rohr has done one thing right, he has invited the best crop of players, he has spotted talent when they are unknown and given them a career, he has raised the bar with the standard of players been called up, the heyyous and useless backwater league players like Turkey have reduced drastically. He hasnt taken us to the dark ages where we had the likes of Oshaniwa, Chiogozie agbim, Egwuekwe, Ruben Gabriel, Uchebor, Ebenezer kunle, Uche Nwofor etc in our squad to the WC!!

His biggest sin is that he has showed poor ability in molding a team that plays NIgerian football. Rather than fire Rohr, he needs a Nigerian Assistant that would ensure we play the attacking style of football. Yobo, Salisu the criminal and eguaveon are all dunderheads.
Lai Mohammed will be proud of you. See how you spinned the story and avoided blaming Rohr but other people for causing him to perform below par, fantastic. Oga everything rises and falls on leadership!!!!! The responsibility of leadership is huge, it includes ownership of successes and failures. If anyone isn't ready for the responsibility, then they have the choice of not being appointed leader.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 8:42pm On Nov 19, 2021
Mujtahida:
And our wingers should not always think of driving into the final third and cutting back. They should learn to deliver crosses. We have a tall striker for God's sake!
Exactly.... I am so tempted to think rohr does not tell them this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:50pm On Nov 19, 2021
AndSunGorilla:
Lai Mohammed will be proud of you. See how you spinned the story and avoided blaming Rohr but other people for causing him to perform below par, fantastic. Oga everything rises and falls on leadership!!!!! The responsibility of leadership is huge, it includes ownership of successes and failures. If anyone isn't ready for the responsibility, then they have the choice of not being appointed leader.
No one wana answer the obvious. Where is the money to pay if Rohr is sacked?

His contract is clear.. Qualify for world cup and keep your job!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:51pm On Nov 19, 2021
humility33:
Rohr is too conservative

He spots talent invite them and make them sit on the bench

He can barely read games and make tactical subs

He does not understand tactics neither does he mould his team to play according to tactics

His pattern of play is archaic and barely produce goals and does not even know how to use the talents at his disposal

C'mon that man is a disaster waiting to happen if we don't let him go now we will regret it later mark my words
Oga humility, , I am a fierce critic of Rohr. I would've fired him a long time ago if i were Amaju.

That being said, I detest unfair labor practice and owing people. NFF should, first of all, find money to pay him. He has achieved one of his targets...

I just don't like this business where we are notorious for not paying people for job done. Whether we are happy with the work or not.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:52pm On Nov 19, 2021
The one thing I give coach Rohr credit for is that he has kept any and all financial issues in house... He understands being owed. He might not like it, but he understands it.

Now, if they are talking about letting him go, they should find the money to make him whole.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 9:01pm On Nov 19, 2021
Joezinho:
Oga humility, , I am a fierce critic of Rohr. I would've fired him a long time ago if i were Amaju.

That being said, I detest unfair labor practice and owing people. NFF should, first of all, find money to pay him. He has achieved one of his targets...

I just don't like this business where we are notorious for not paying people for job done. Whether we are happy with the work or not.
You're right bro

Amaju and co messed things up
I doubt his knowledge of football in all honesty
He is just a politician trying to make a name and a fortune for himself via football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
Joezinho:
Maybe he was working and hanging on based on promises.. Remember results wasn't this bad initially.

Rohr has done one thing right, he has invited the best crop of players, he has spotted talent when they are unknown and given them a career, he has raised the bar with the standard of players been called up, the heyyous and useless backwater league players like Turkey have reduced drastically. He hasnt taken us to the dark ages where we had the likes of Oshaniwa, Chiogozie agbim, Egwuekwe, Ruben Gabriel, Uchebor, Ebenezer kunle, Uche Nwofor etc in our squad to the WC!!

His biggest sin is that he has showed poor ability in molding a team that plays NIgerian football. Rather than fire Rohr, he needs a Nigerian Assistant that would ensure we play the attacking style of football. Yobo, Salisu the criminal and eguaveon are all dunderheads.
Why do you guys keep making it look like Rohr was one scouting manager that went round Nigeria and Europe discovering talents and changed the Nigerian football scene.

Our top players are,

Osimhen, Iheanacho, Ndidi, Chidera Ejuke, Chukwueze, Iwobi, Ekong, Balogun, and Awaziem.

So which of these will you say are discoveries of Rohr?

Rohr benefitted massively from the hardwork put in by our local coaches.

Rohr was lucky Maigari and his crew laid a solid foundation unlike the corrupt cartel that gave birth to Rohr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 9:07pm On Nov 19, 2021
Mujtahida:
Sorry bro. Cheer up. Our inexperience cost us. We will surely win the world cup one day. Let that thought comfort you.
Haha haha haha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:09pm On Nov 19, 2021
Joezinho:
The one thing I give coach Rohr credit for is that he has kept any and all financial issues in house... He understands being owed. He might not like it, but he understands it.

Now, if they are talking about letting him go, they should find the money to make him whole.
Rohr can not talk too much because he knows they are doing racket deals. He is fully part of the corrupt deals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 9:19pm On Nov 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Why do you guys keep making it look like Rhor was one scouting manager that went round Nigeria and Europe discovering talents and changed the Nigerian football scene.

Our top players are,

Osimhen, Iheanacho, Ndidi, Chidera Ejuke, Chukwueze, Iwobi, Ekong, Balogun, and Awaziem.

So which of these will you say are discoveries of Rhor?

Rhor benefitted massively from the hardwork put in from our local coaches.

Rhor was lucky Maigari and his crew laid a solid foundation unlike the corrupt cartel that gave birth to Rhor.
Local coaches? Was it the local coaches that invited Awaziem , Balogun, Akpoguma, Aribo and the likes? Or didnt we have quality players scouted by your so called local coaches in 2014 when we took Ruben Gabriel , calamity Egwuekwe , Agbim and a host of shitty players to the WC?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
Joezinho:
Local coaches? Was it the local coaches that invited Awaziem , Balogun, Akpoguma, Aribo and the likes? Or didnt we have quality players scouted by your so called local coaches in 2014 when we took Ruben Gabriel , calamity Egwuekwe , Agbim and a host of shitty players to the WC?
Balogun played for Keshi before Rohr. Awaziem was called up to the Super Eagles by Salisu before Rohr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:36pm On Nov 19, 2021
The way you guys reason sometimes is so funny. Oga did Rohr discover a single player for the super eagles?

Joezinho:
Local coaches? Was it the local coaches that invited Awaziem , Balogun, Akpoguma, Aribo and the likes? Or didnt we have quality players scouted by your so called local coaches in 2014 when we took Ruben Gabriel , calamity Egwuekwe , Agbim and a host of shitty players to the WC?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 9:40pm On Nov 19, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Balogun played for Keshi before Rohr. Awaziem was called up for the Super Eagles by Salisu before Rohr.
Alright bro.
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