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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 9:12am On Nov 20, 2021
temi1290:
You didn't ask for source but you believe,na the one wey Joebie talk that has also been posted here severally you no believe

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 9:17am On Nov 20, 2021
daveP:
This is one sure bet too o.


Which other Eastern Europe Coaches are available for selection? Shevchenko?
I don't know oh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:37am On Nov 20, 2021
yinkeys:
No he didn’t.
All he uses are European based players.
The European based guys are easy to find on transfermarkt website
Just filter by country and you’d also see the ones with dual citizenship
I feel bad for home based players honestly
Just wasting their talent
Meanwhile Sunday MBA was the X factor in our last Afcon win when games became tight.
There are home based guys that are hungry to get the job done if given the opportunity
I’m honestly sad for home based guys that don’t get the opportunity
They actually want it more than some of these European based players in my opinion
With the right coach they will be integrated properly
una don start the homebase nonsense again

The snr national is not a grooming ground but for the best any nation can boast of

Na u17 and u20 coaches Dey discover players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:38am On Nov 20, 2021
ChrisKels:
Don't be emotional but rational. The senior national team is the apex of every team worldwide, so what's done here is assembly of already made players not discovering of talents.

Talents are discovered by youth team coaches while senior national team coaches invite them after they have proven themselves professionally. Have you ever heard Descamp, Southgate, Loew or any national team coach claiming that he discovered this or that? Abi your own definition of discovery is "giving a cap"? Inviting your available qaulified/eligible players is different from discovering players oga learn.

Can you name any player we didn't know of before he was invited by Rohr?

Descamp discovered Mbappe for France abi? grin
u said it all nwanne
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:47am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
una don start the homebase nonsense again

The snr national is not a grooming ground but for the best any nation can boast of

Na u17 and u20 coaches Dey discover players
When it concerns countries that have sound youths/grassroots development policies that have been followed for decades.

Not like a country like ours where everything is disjointed. It takes extra effort from the coach to raise a formidable team than folding arms and waiting for Europe to do all the work.

Westerhof did a lot of grassroots work for us to enjoy the growth we had in the early 90s.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 9:52am On Nov 20, 2021
forgiveness:
I don’t think coach with such mentality is good for our National team.
Me too bro

We should go for a Dutch, Spanish or Brazilian coach with at least a trophy to show for all his coaching years
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 9:54am On Nov 20, 2021
zuchyblink:
I want to fulfill Pele's prophecy by winning World cup for Africa ----- Coach Ndubisi Egbo
Even Aigbogun will say same thing

But I love the fact that he has won at least a trophy all during his stint in Europe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:55am On Nov 20, 2021
when westahof was the coach of the team can you list how many top professionals we had in decent clubs in europe then?
TheGoodJoe:
When it concerns countries that have sound youths/grassroots development policies that have been followed for decades.

Not like a country like ours where everything is disjointed. It takes extra effort from the coach to raise a formidable team than folding arms and waiting for Europe to do all the work.

Westerhof did a lot of grassroots work for us to enjoy the growth we had in the early 90s.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:59am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
when westahof was the coach of the team can you list how many top professionals we had in decent clubs in europe then?

We had loads. I can give you a brief understanding of Westerhof. He always believed the team can improve. Owoboukiri was a top Hitman and Efan Ekoku was also promising. That did not stop Westerhof from pushing Yekini. We had Friday Ekpo but it did not stop him from pushing for Okocha.

Westerhof was always interested and part of our football. From the U20 to the U17, to the local league. He even went to Calabar to watch an amateur tournament. Still searching for hidden gems.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 10:01am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
when westahof was the coach of the team can you list how many top professionals we had in decent clubs in europe then?
Most times is all about having committed and hungry for success players not forgetting experience too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:03am On Nov 20, 2021
oga list all not mention 3 or 4


no coach will have the luxury of over a thousand players in europe where 50% of those play best league and will start grooming men on the rudiments and basics of the game

that is the duty of youth team coaches
TheGoodJoe:

We had loads. I can give you a brief understanding of Westerhof. He always believed the team can improve. Owoboukiri was a top Hitman and Efan Ekoku was also promising. That did not stop Westerhof from pushing Yekini. We had Friday Ekpo but it did not stop him from pushing for Okocha.

Westerhof was always interested and part of our football. From the U20 to the U17, to the local league. He even went to Calabar to watch an amateur tournament. Still searching for hidden gems.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 10:13am On Nov 20, 2021
I ask one question: Does the citizenship of the coach make a difference in the world today when there are itinerant coaches?

I wouldn't mind NFF hiring Pitso 'Jingles' Mosimane.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lovewins: 10:20am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
oga list all not mention 3 or 4


no coach will have the luxury of over a thousand players in europe where 50% of those play best league and will start grooming men on the rudiments and basics of the game

that is the duty of youth team coaches
Having thousands of players in Europe doesn't necessarily mean they are the best for the team. Europe is filled with average players who only leverage on the glamour of the league and playtime to get recognition. The best of our current crop of players began from Nigeria, that alone is testament to the fact that if we put in the work to scout and develop we'll find numerous talents who can play for the eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:23am On Nov 20, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


Do you think Rohr did not know that adding Adekunle's name to his payment deal was a pure racketeering deal?

Do you think Rohr did not know the massive contract clause to his contract was a shady deal?

He is part of it. It is not an opinion but fact.
I asked you a question, you answer it with 'do I think'
Bro, you are passing off your suspicions as fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Mujtahida: 10:29am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
when westahof was the coach of the team can you list how many top professionals we had in decent clubs in europe then?
Abeg abeg they should forget about this home based players ooo. They are just too unintelligent modern global football. Even continentally they are huffing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:43am On Nov 20, 2021
forgiveness:
This guy has not won a spoon.
what you, had you even won a toothpickhuh?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:45am On Nov 20, 2021
Watching Scotland beat Denmark, all these small European countries have improved
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:48am On Nov 20, 2021
so you re trying to insinuate that players back home are better than the ones we have plying their trade in europe? no dey deceive yurself
lovewins:
Having thousands of players in Europe doesn't necessarily mean they are the best for the team. Europe is filled with average players who only leverage on the glamour of the league and playtime to get recognition. The best of our current crop of players began from Nigeria, that alone is testament to the fact that if we put in the work to scout and develop we'll find numerous talents who can play for the eagles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 10:51am On Nov 20, 2021
temi1290:
You didn't ask for source but you believe,na the one wey Joebie talk that has also been posted here severally you no believe
grin

Lord.... where in the Post did I say I don't believe what Joebie posted?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m):
Mujtahida:
I asked you a question, you answer it with 'do I think'
Bro, you are passing off your suspicions as fact.
There is a difference between suspicion and signing bogus deals. Or are you saying Rohr did not read the contract or know what he was signing?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:56am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
oga list all not mention 3 or 4


no coach will have the luxury of over a thousand players in europe where 50% of those play best league and will start grooming men on the rudiments and basics of the game

that is the duty of youth team coaches

Do you think we have the best players in every position in the national team today? Can our team compete with the likes if Spain, Italy and Belgiun for every position?

If your answer is no, then we need to keep searching and grooming to increase our pool of quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:03am On Nov 20, 2021
of course they can witht he right coach and tactics
TheGoodJoe:

Do you think we have the best players in every position in the national team today? Can our team compete with the likes if Spain, Italy and Belgiun for every position?

If your answer is no, then we need to keep searching and grooming to increase our pool of quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 11:10am On Nov 20, 2021
Mujtahida:
I asked you a question, you answer it with 'do I think'
Bro, you are passing off your suspicions as fact.
are you minding Mrjoe grin grin grin something he can't paste a screenshot which is his usual style to back up his claim grin na em own thinking be fact wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:12am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
of course they can witht he right coach and tactics
Which of our defenders will you compare to Ruben Dias and which midfielder will you compare to Bernado Silva?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:19am On Nov 20, 2021
Mujtahida:
Abeg abeg they should forget about this home based players ooo. They are just too unintelligent modern global football. Even continentally they are huffing.
But Westerhof and Keshi could get the home base players to deliver. With a right program, we can get the home based to contribute to the team's pool.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:23am On Nov 20, 2021
TheGoodJoe:
Which of our defenders will you compare to Ruben Dias and which midfielder will you compare to Bernado Silva?
oga football doesn’t work that way

Iceland that kicked England out of euro 2016 end road any of their player reach Rooney?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 11:26am On Nov 20, 2021
Paul Mukairu start
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m):
charlesemeka85:
una don start the homebase nonsense again

The snr national is not a grooming ground but for the best any nation can boast of

Na u17 and u20 coaches Dey discover players
Well that one na your school of thought
Not mine
Wetin d foreign based players dey play besides a few
I doubt they’d get 3rd in the nations cup this time around
I can mention a ton of players that were picked from the local league over the years before Rohr that have made this country proud
Do you know the number of stars that didn’t get to play for the eaglets or flying eagles
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:32am On Nov 20, 2021
lovewins:
Having thousands of players in Europe doesn't necessarily mean they are the best for the team. Europe is filled with average players who only leverage on the glamour of the league and playtime to get recognition. The best of our current crop of players began from Nigeria, that alone is testament to the fact that if we put in the work to scout and develop we'll find numerous talents who can play for the eagles.
wetin Dey kill una and still be a menace and cankerworm in Nigeria as a whole is sentiment and prejudice

Oga like I said before dis una pity and clamour for home based players will never work. It is the duty of grassroots and youth team coaches to discover talents and if this talents do well in competitions they will be recommended to the snr national team coach for him to hv a close look

No right thinking national team coach will ignore players in top leagues in Europe doing well for those back. This can only happen when we lack a decent player in one of the positions in the team

Local based players lacks the basics and exposure to excel in tournament like the World Cup. The so called players aren’t even the best in African club football.

No be the same home based players I watched against Mexico?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:33am On Nov 20, 2021
yinkeys:
Well that one Na your school of thought
Not mine
Wetin d foreign based players dey play besides a few
I doubt they’d get 3rd in the nations cup this time around
I can mention a ton of players that were picked from the local league over the years before Rohr that have made this country proud
Do you know the number of stars that didn’t get to play for the eaglets or flying eagles
anakogheri
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 11:40am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
anakogheri
I don’t understand what that means but from an analytical stand point Keshi mixed both home & foreign based
Keshi’s model is obviously the best to be followed for any country to progress
The coach is the problem not really the players in my opinion.
An example back then Oboabona
In my opinion there should be like at least 10% quota for home based players
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:49am On Nov 20, 2021
do4luv14:
what you, had you even won a toothpickhuh?
Yes na
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