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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:51am On Nov 20, 2021
lovewins:
Having thousands of players in Europe doesn't necessarily mean they are the best for the team. Europe is filled with average players who only leverage on the glamour of the league and playtime to get recognition. The best of our current crop of players began from Nigeria, that alone is testament to the fact that if we put in the work to scout and develop we'll find numerous talents who can play for the eagles.
But that's not the work of the national team coach to do huh

Players domiciled in Europe are exposed to world best academics, training facilities etc so u can't compare them to what obtainable in the NPFL

Yes we have lots of raw talents in Nigeria academics but they need to discover, groom and harness them into cadet teams there after the national team coaches can pick the best amongst the lots after some years
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:55am On Nov 20, 2021
yinkeys:
I don’t understand what that means but from an analytical stand point Keshi mixed both home & foreign based
Keshi’s model is obviously the best to be followed for any country to progress
The coach is the problem not really the players in my opinion.
An example back then Oboabona
In my opinion there should be like at least 10% quota for home based players
Bro...no thing like quota system

For sometime now home based players given the opportunity to play always use the privilege of 2 or 3 caps to whisk to obscure leagues abroad.

So bro, what the national team needs is a standing under 23, 20 and under 17 teams that will always be engaged and as well make way for gradual progression. So stop this quota based practises, the best where ever they play should be called and played. The CHAN is there for the Home based eagles to use project themselves to the national team coaches and the world
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:57am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
wetin Dey kill una and still be a menace and cankerworm in Nigeria as a whole is sentiment and prejudice

Oga like I said before dis una pity and clamour for home based players will never work. It is the duty of grassroots and youth team coaches to discover talents and if this talents do well in competitions they will be recommended to the snr national team coach for him to hv a close look

No right thinking national team coach will ignore players in top leagues in Europe doing well for those back. This can only happen when we lack a decent player in one of the positions in the team

Local based players lacks the basics and exposure to excel in tournament like the World Cup. The so called players aren’t even the best in African club football.

No be the same home based players I watched against Mexico?
Don't be surprised dude is one of those players in NPFL.

They NPFL have the CHAN competition to explore and launch themselves for better things and also progression upwards into the super eagles
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 11:59am On Nov 20, 2021
humility33:
Bro...no thing like quota system

For sometime now home based players given the opportunity to play always use the privilege of 2 or 3 caps to whisk to obscure leagues abroad.

So bro, what the national team needs is a standing under 23, 20 and under 17 teams that will always be engaged and as well make way for gradual progression. So stop this quota based practises, the best where ever they play should be called and played. The CHAN is there for the Home based eagles to use project themselves to the national team coaches and the world
You will do same if you were in their shoes
So long they perform well when they wear the jersey I see no wrong in that.

Why are people supporting a lazy coach
Oh well let’s give him one more chance at the nations cup

Did you watch the Cape Verde game?
I jus dey laugh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 11:59am On Nov 20, 2021
do4luv14:
what you, had you even won a toothpickhuh?
We need an ambitious coach bro

Someone who is hungry and at least a trophy in his cabinet not too much to ask for

Forgiveness wasn't ridiculing him just saying the super eagles need an ambitious coach at this team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lovewins: 11:59am On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
wetin Dey kill una and still be a menace and cankerworm in Nigeria as a whole is sentiment and prejudice

Oga like I said before dis una pity and clamour for home based players will never work. It is the duty of grassroots and youth team coaches to discover talents and if this talents do well in competitions they will be recommended to the snr national team coach for him to hv a close look

No right thinking national team coach will ignore players in top leagues in Europe doing well for those back. This can only happen when we lack a decent player in one of the positions in the team

Local based players lacks the basics and exposure to excel in tournament like the World Cup. The so called players aren’t even the best in African club football.

No be the same home based players I watched against Mexico?
I didn't respond to you initially because you'll rather include personalities in your discourse instead of restricting your contributions to your opposing views. However since you quoted me twice, I'll respond.

First it's ridiculous to think that playing in Europe is the primary metric for success in football. While I agree that playing in a top league helps for exposure, advanced technical practices amongst others, it doesn't necessarily mean it's the only metric for success. The fact that we have a disfunctional league in Nigeria doesn't take away from the myriads of talent we have here. A good coach is able to surgically blend our players in Europe with the very best that we have down here, cause we do. There are players currently plying their trade in the NPL that are better than many in the English premier League. Sometimes it's really not about how good you are, it's about time and chance. Truth is we'll never get to see many good players simply because they never got the chance, it doesn't mean those who play in Europe are better.

This doesn't just apply to football, it applies to every vocation you can think of. There's hardly any hospital in th UK for instance where you don't see a Nigerian doctor or nurse, the paradox however is 95% of them got trained here. Dead that funny narrative that only players on Europe are deserving of the national team call up
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by humility33(m): 12:01pm On Nov 20, 2021
yinkeys:
You will do same if you were in their shoes
So long they perform well when they wear the jersey I see no wrong in that.

Why are people supporting a lazy coach
Oh well let’s give him one last chance at the nations cup
U talk as if u know me so well

Never u generalise or assume someone who dont know his drive or goals

More so I want rohr out but your premise or argument for reserve quota for home based players is flawed in my opinion.... even the quota system will be used to call up a player that happens to be boys of the NFF vultures not even the best.

The NPFL players should utilise the CHAN competition well to launch themselves
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:02pm On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
oga football doesn’t work that way

Iceland that kicked England out of euro 2016 end road any of their player reach Rooney?
That is momentary result. Not an aim of a national team. A national team needs to keep building to form a world class team. Even after that the work does not stop.

You are talking about selection. Westerhof was about building the best team in the World. That is why at that time we could compete with any team and by 1996 we could go as far as matching top teams in okay.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lovewins: 12:03pm On Nov 20, 2021
humility33:
But that's not the work of the national team coach to do huh

Players domiciled in Europe are exposed to world best academics, training facilities etc so u can't compare them to what obtainable in the NPFL

Yes we have lots of raw talents in Nigeria academics but they need to discover, groom and harness them into cadet teams there after the national team coaches can pick the best amongst the lots after some years
I am not even making a case for development here. The job of a national team coach is to get the best team possible for the super eagles however possible. If it means exploring options in Nigeria, then he has to. I agree that Europe has better pitches and training facilities just the same way they have better schools and laboratories, it doesn't automatically mean that training in Europe is the only metric for success. I'll never subscribe to the "it has to be white to be right" thinking.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 12:06pm On Nov 20, 2021
humility33:
U talk as if u know me so well

Never u generalise or assume someone who dont know his drive or goals

More so I want rohr out but your premise or argument for reserve quota for home based players is flawed in my opinion.... even the quota system will be used to call up a player that happens to be boys of the NFF vultures not even the best.

The NPFL players should utilise the CHAN competition well to launch themselves
It’s true
I totally forgot about the corrupt angle lol
You’re right about NFF

I agree with most of what you put down
In Keshi’s time, I heard he was 100% in charge of the team. He had disagreements with NFF which lead to his sack. I don’t think his sack was based on performance
In summary, let’s see European based Eagles performance in January

What do you think about Herve Renard the Saudi coach ?
I doubt nff will be able to pay such
His salary would probably be double that of Rohr’s
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 12:11pm On Nov 20, 2021
humility33:
Don't be surprised dude is one of those players in NPFL.

They NPFL have the CHAN competition to explore and launch themselves for better things and also progression upwards into the super eagles
cheesy grin grin anybody that watched that mexico friendly and think our league has carpenters that could displace anyone in the current national team Squad is a clown league wey know get resume date or even proper structure grin grin grin South gate doesn't even have a single player he scouted or groomed but he goes to watch every single important matches of the week to see players that fits his style of play and can do well even with the pool of talent's available in the epl big team's he still picks Aston villa and leed's player's doing well can our national team coach go pick a player in the Npfl that isn't even in action currently wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:18pm On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
una don start the homebase nonsense again

The snr national is not a grooming ground but for the best any nation can boast of

Na u17 and u20 coaches Dey discover players
That home base talk sabi vex me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 12:21pm On Nov 20, 2021
12large1:
A continent that is providing only 5 spot in 54 countries. Anyone that qualifies among those 5 will be with their skin in their teeth. History has shown that anytime Nigeria sacks a coach in a World Cup year, it ends up in abysmal failure
You are on point sire.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 12:26pm On Nov 20, 2021
Paul Mukairu has open the weekend for us with a goal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:30pm On Nov 20, 2021
lovewins:
Having thousands of players in Europe doesn't necessarily mean they are the best for the team. Europe is filled with average players who only leverage on the glamour of the league and playtime to get recognition. The best of our current crop of players began from Nigeria, that alone is testament to the fact that if we put in the work to scout and develop we'll find numerous talents who can play for the eagles.
Europe is filled with average players ,so Na our Nigerian league ekuke players better pass out European based players ?

Brazil league is one of the best league in the world outside Europe ,but they still call more players from Europe than their league because most of their European players are better then the ones in their league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:30pm On Nov 20, 2021
lovewins:
I didn't respond to you initially because you'll rather include personalities in your discourse instead of restricting your contributions to your opposing views. However since you quoted me twice, I'll respond.

First it's ridiculous to think that playing in Europe is the primary metric for success in football. While I agree that playing in a top league helps for exposure, advanced technical practices amongst others, it doesn't necessarily mean it's the only metric for success. The fact that we have a disfunctional league in Nigeria doesn't take away from the myriads of talent we have here. A good coach is able to surgically blend our players in Europe with the very best that we have down here, cause we do. There are players currently plying their trade in the NPL that are better than many in the English premier League. Sometimes it's really not about how good you are, it's about time and chance. Truth is we'll never get to see many good players simply because they never got the chance, it doesn't mean those who play in Europe are better.

This doesn't just apply to football, it applies to every vocation you can think of. There's hardly any hospital in th UK for instance where you don't see a Nigerian doctor or nurse, the paradox however is 95% of them got trained here. Dead that funny narrative that only players on Europe are deserving of the national team call up
playing in Europe is not the metric to measure success but playing in your back yard
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:31pm On Nov 20, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Europe is filled with average players ,so Na our Nigerian league ekuke players better pass out European based players ?

Brazil league is one of the best league in the world outside Europe ,but they still call more players from Europe than their league because most of their European players are better then the ones in their league
leave mugu wey Dey find relevancy with unreasonable posts
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:31pm On Nov 20, 2021
Subzero047:
Watching Scotland beat Denmark, all these small European countries have improved
Dem never improve anything jare

They could only beat Denmark after Denmark have secured the World Cup ticket ,Denmark wey e take them 9 games before them condede their first goal grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:32pm On Nov 20, 2021
yinkeys:
I don’t understand what that means but from an analytical stand point Keshi mixed both home & foreign based
Keshi’s model is obviously the best to be followed for any country to progress
The coach is the problem not really the players in my opinion.
An example back then Oboabona
In my opinion there should be like at least 10% quota for home based players
invitation to the national is based on merit
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:32pm On Nov 20, 2021
Joebie:
The identity of the Serbian coach — 61 year old former Heart of Oak coach,
could also be Uganda’s coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:33pm On Nov 20, 2021
Mujtahida:
Fact or your opinion?
definitely opinion
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:37pm On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
when westahof was the coach of the team can you list how many top professionals we had in decent clubs in europe then?
I just tire, westerhof this westerhof that.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:39pm On Nov 20, 2021
charlesemeka85:
leave mugu wey Dey find relevancy with unreasonable posts
Brazil last squad only 2 players where from their league

The most consistent player from the Brazil seria A that use to make their squad is Everton Riberio and he is a top player who rejected Man United and co then for money

Dem Dey make noise like say better player they naija league ,for example if Brazil should pick first 11 from their league they will still beat many European countries ,but they will always go for their best players in Europe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:40pm On Nov 20, 2021
Joezinho:
I ask one question: Does the citizenship of the coach make a difference in the world today when there are itinerant coaches?

I wouldn't mind NFF hiring Pitso 'Jingles' Mosimane.
Pitso Mosimane's @AlAhly contract has a
-Monthly Salary - US$120,000 (US$2.9 million for 2 years).

-Win League or @CAF_Online Champions League - US$480,000 bonus.

-Any party wanting to terminate the contract to pay 6 months salary - US$720,000.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 12:44pm On Nov 20, 2021
jihday:
could also be Uganda’s coach
DT one DT plays defensive football.. E no go fit us jare
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:46pm On Nov 20, 2021
Ndidi starts for Leicester, Iheanacho on the bench
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero047: 12:47pm On Nov 20, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Dem never improve anything jare

They could only beat Denmark after Denmark have secured the World Cup ticket ,Denmark wey e take them 9 games before them condede their first goal grin
So you think beating Denmark is easy, by 2 goals nonetheless
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:48pm On Nov 20, 2021
yinkeys:
I don’t understand what that means but from an analytical stand point Keshi mixed both home & foreign based
Keshi’s model is obviously the best to be followed for any country to progress
The coach is the problem not really the players in my opinion.
An example back then Oboabona
In my opinion there should be like at least 10% quota for home based players
take a look at the country as a whole and tell me what we have gained with quota system. Quota system is just a way to promote mediocrity. The few home based players Rohr invited, immediately that get to play a couple of minutes they are off to some obscure league, do you want the coach to drop them since they aren’t local based anymore and pick another set of players? Is that a way to build a team? Besides, the ones keshi used what have the Supereagles or the NPFL gained? Please name one of the home based player that keshi used and you think still deserve a bit of playing time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by daveP(m): 12:50pm On Nov 20, 2021
JohnBullMySon:
I don't know oh
they should not choose any jeopardy candidate sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:52pm On Nov 20, 2021
elyte89:
DT one DT plays defensive football.. E no go fit us jare
not really seen them play but they scored just 3 goals during this qualifying series although they conceded just 2
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joezinho: 12:53pm On Nov 20, 2021
jihday:
Pitso Mosimane's @AlAhly contract has a
-Monthly Salary - US$120,000 (US$2.9 million for 2 years).

-Win League or @CAF_Online Champions League - US$480,000 bonus.

-Any party wanting to terminate the contract to pay 6 months salary - US$720,000.
cheesy grin. NFF are just gonna go for a yes man.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:54pm On Nov 20, 2021
Subzero047:
So you think beating Denmark is easy, by 2 goals nonetheless
I just feel Denmark got nothing to play for that’s why
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