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Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by oyatz(m): 3:10pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
Fiscus105: Well, the courts rule only on evidence and not perceptions or feelings. To prove a case of massacres in court, you will need to first establish that a particular person with known and verifiable identies has been killed by Lai Muhammed at Lekki Toll gate with hard- cast evidence. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by Drogunov: 3:11pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
seunmsg: Constable seunmsg, participant in the ENDSARS massacre. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by Fiscus105(m): 3:14pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
oyatz: When ICC comes in , the evidences will nip them. If government within the government can agree that there was massacre? The head of government who is the only one that can order military has no escape route. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by texazzpete(m): 3:28pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
oyatz: Dead body wey no get ID, you come Dey expect the panel to determine their ‘last known address’. Panel sat for a whole year to hear witness testimony and hear from victims of police brutality and you’re attacking them for not leaving their location to do detective work. You people are strange. Instead of blaming the Government for not having a detailed fingerprint database of Nigerians after capturing people’s biometric data for NIN, telecom line registration and bank registration, you’re here attacking the panel. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by oyatz(m): 3:34pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
texazzpete: If you are well read and understand how the court rules you ought to know that in type of case you cited, the prosecution will rely on two vital body of evidence viz; 1) The body/corpse of the victim 2) Autopsy report that the victim actually died from the impacts of the accident. In the EndSARS panel report, the panel disregarded the Testimonies of the Doctors who treated the victims and the Forensic Pathologist who conducted autopsies on all the bodies based on Science but based their reports on words of mouths of the prostesters which is highly subjective based on perceptions and feelings. One of their lead witnesses was a video by a guy who said he was assumed to be dead but managed to espcaped and counted 11 'dead bodies' . Now if he could be assumed to be dead by laymen (non-medics) but he wasn't dead, what gives you the impression that there were others he too assumed to be dead but weren't really dead? In the midst of shooting that night, some people would even fainted without anything hitting them and some people will assumed that they were dead. In Accidents & Emergency units of large hospitals, there were many instances that family and friends rush victims in and start crying that they are dead but the medical teams will treat them and they will survive. Victims at the scenes of the Lekki Toll gates would have been emotionally terrified that they may not be able to reliably identified who was truly dead or not. Try to view matters disspassionately and stop labelling anyone who scrutinize the reports as 'BMC and those who have been paid by the Government'. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by texazzpete(m): 3:53pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
oyatz: And if you had read the report instead of lazily repeating misinformation from your WhatsApp groups, you’d have seen the testimony from a respected, Lagos state forensic pathologist who carried out autopsies of corpses identified as retrieved from the lekki tollgate, reported injuries consistent with gunshot wounds and testified that the corpses could not be identified and were only marked with numbers at the time of examination. But this is par for the course here. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by xelly: 6:29pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
oyatz: Because it is not in sync with your format makes it fake? CNN is a media house, did they have to wait for such details to make investigations? Any serious person can easily confirm what transpired there on the 20/11/2020. If government is condemning report of the committee, where is the findings of the government? Take your time and be a fan of crime and investigation on dstv For the government to come clean, they should hire fbi to unravel what transpired there that day. For Lai to come out from his disinformation lab and start pointing where Ts are crossed and I(s) dotted without presenting his findings after one year is petty, callous and useless. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by djukum1: 12:15am On Nov 25, 2021 |
God give us good head and mouth to think and speaks wisely. But blind followers do otherwise |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by louqas: 3:31am On Nov 25, 2021 |
texazzpete: We also know most of you lekkilies proponents are getting your funding from Pdp and Atiku as per Dubai strategy......you must make the massacre narrative stick to be able to get paid. You are the traitors and saboteurs who want to get to power through chaos instead of through the ballots. What about all the ordinary everyday people whose source of livelihood you arsonists destroyed because of your lies.....the blood of those security officers roatsed and eaten by you cannibals will be on your heads and those of your sponsors |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by louqas: 3:38am On Nov 25, 2021 |
texazzpete: Then why are they called "PANEL OF INQUIRY if they cant make enquiries ?.....simple enquiries as per the identify of a person. They are not supppsed to do detective work but went to Lekki tolll gate on october 30th and discovered bullet casings......why .....its because of the fixation with LTG....LTG is seen as Tinubus cash cow hence you all must make sure LTG remain shut because in your thinking it will affect tinubus finances |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by plaindealer: 6:23am On Nov 25, 2021 |
PERIOD!!! 1 Like
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Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by plaindealer: 6:48am On Nov 25, 2021 |
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Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by christistruth01: 7:04am On Nov 25, 2021 |
Nigerians are not Stupid enough to believe that Nathaniel Solomon who granted Punch Newspaper an Interview on 11 September 2021 was shot and Killed during Endsars Protests at Lekki Toll Gate last year Absolute Rubbish |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by oyatz(m): 7:12am On Nov 25, 2021 |
xelly: What I am saying is that the panel did a shoddy job. It requires concrete evidence to prove a case of murder. The panel disregarded testimonies of Medica doctors who treated the victims and autopsy reports of forensic pathologist based on Science, instead they relied of the words of mouths of the ENDSARS protesters which was largely based on perceptions and feelings to arrive at their conclusions. To be very frank with you, they can NOT win each of these cases of murder in court based on the panel report. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by texazzpete(m): 7:12am On Nov 25, 2021 |
louqas: This is a particularly poorly reasoned post, and of all the BMC proxies in this thread, it's sad to see that you're the most intellectually challenged. If you could be bothered to follow the panel proceedings and read the report, you'd see that they called in witnesses and sought testimony from a wide spectrum of folks. How can you now say there was no inquiry? And then you come up with the ludicrous statement that they should enquire about the identity of unidentified persons. Does common sense not tell you that those folks are largely unidentified for good reason? Of course there's a large amount of focus on the Lekki Toll Gate. That's the site of the tragic shooting. Why did you need this explained to you? Have you had tertiary education? I assure you, nobody here is naive enough to think that the Lekki toll gate generates a very significant portion of Tinubu's cash flow, but I thank you for making that statement. It's a clear Freudian Slip to reveal your own motivation I would say that this is disappointing from you, but I suspect that you're quite limited upstairs and are only performing in line with your capabilities. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by texazzpete(m): 7:15am On Nov 25, 2021 |
louqas: Yup. I was clearly right about you. Who gives a damn about that clown Atiku or you people's desperate political moves? Unarmed youths were slaughtered and you traitors are defending it because of the proverbial 5 pieces of silver. See what I keep saying about Freudian Slips from you? Clearly, you're the weakest link. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by oyatz(m): 7:15am On Nov 25, 2021 |
Fiscus105: Bros, if they go to ICC, they will lose. Courts will rely on scientific evidence and not hear say. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by louqas: 1:21pm On Nov 25, 2021 |
texazzpete:See grammar Is this your defence? So weak and you ended up not saying anything but just poorly attempt to denigrate my person instead of facing the issues at hand. All over Lagos and the country that day scores of people died from various causes including police men.....some of you cannibals even roasted and ate some.... but those deaths dont matter......what matters to you lot is LTG.....what about those whose source of livelihood you arsonists destroyed because there was shooting at LTG.... You lead counsel has been in court for years concerning the issue of LTG....he clearly saw this as an opportunity to get back at government |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by xelly: 5:21pm On Nov 25, 2021 |
oyatz: Bolded was acknowledged but recall the Doctors that treated those wounded were not at Lekki on the 20/11/2020 so they can only report cases that was brought before them. Why do you people not want to accept eye witness report and evaluate using technology rather than rely on obsolete methods and silly conclusions? Technology and the world is laughing at you guys |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by plaindealer: 5:32pm On Nov 25, 2021 |
xelly: 1. Medical doctor's and their scientific testimonies carries more weight in courts of law than hearsays. 2. The eyewitness in question did not testify and was never placed under oath to start with so his or her testimony is inadmissible in any court of law, based on this fact, the whole report and findings are worthless. 3. You can not say people die and a massacre took place without proof or by relying on hearsays by witnesses that you did not see, you did not invite testifying and did not place under oath. 4. At the end of the day, the panel still have to explain how they came about the names o the dead, their identities and manner of death through examination, the same examination they sidetracked in favour of hearsay. 5. They still have to explain how people died and sustained injury elsewhere all of a sudden showed up on their report at the LTG. 1 Like |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by xelly: 6:31pm On Nov 25, 2021 |
plaindealer: I have always known that in any investigation, one need to be neutral and check every side of the coin. FG/Lai Mohammed is not neutral and no one expects them to accept whatever that is presented to them. When and how will findings become satisfactory to a biased mind? We all are aware of how police handle citizens. How then is the head injury not related to policy brutality? Those that were shot and they died on spot, they will have bullet injury and most of them would have been dumped in the lagoon. How and why are the panel members receiving threats and are attacked? |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by waldigit: 7:07pm On Nov 25, 2021 |
FreeStuffsNG:You must very smart. I think by now I getting convinced that there was no protest at Lekki. What happened was just a group of young boys that military taught how to properly sing national anthem. Thank God for contribution from great eye witness writer like you. Kai Africa is a hub of mirads of characters! |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by oyatz(m): 10:52pm On Nov 25, 2021 |
xelly: The panel did NOT rely on any Technology but hearsay. Those who had injuries were rushed to the nearest hospitals for treatment and ALL the dead bodies around 20-10-2020 in that vicinity were taken to the nearest mortuaries. The testimonies of the doctors at these hospitals and the Pathologist who carried out autopies on the dead bodies didn't support that 9 people were killed. The families, relatives, friends and neighbours of the people listed as being killed didn't show up at the panel. The panel listed Nathaniel Solomon as one of those killed on 20-10-2020 but the same man granted interview to newspapers in March,2021. The panel listed Kolade Salami as one of those killed at the Lekki shootings when Kolade actually died in 2019. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by xelly: 6:26am On Nov 26, 2021 |
oyatz: 1) Eye witness is different from hearsay. 2) Army prevented ambulance service from gaining entrance to attend to the injured. This alone is enough reason to punish all those soldiers but fg is still looking for T not crossed. 3) What killed those dead bodies taken to the nearest mortuary? 4) Could it be that the panel under reported? since only 9 was reported and the report didn't include that of the pathologist. 5) Bank accounts was frozen, DJ Switch became a witch and a target just for speaking up. How then do you want more persons to speak up? FG should be neutral and support the panel and the public to unravel the truth instead of threat, attacking and killing them. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by texazzpete(m): 11:56am On Nov 26, 2021 |
louqas: See what I mean when I say you’re intellectually challenged? You scoff at the panel for ‘relying on hearsay’, but here you are, insisting that the cases of arson seen in lagos the day after the shooting was carried out by protesters in reprisal for the shooting. Where’s your evidence? By the way, I find it humorous how you’ve finally conceded there was shooting at the tollgate. Sadly, the panel was not constituted to investigate the arson in the day after the shooting. If they were, I’m sure they’d get to the bottom of the curious failure of any serious security agency to respond to widespread arson and looting, in many cases within close vicinity of police stations. Or why - till date - the LASG has not identified any of the arsonists or prosecuted them. I will ignore your desperate rambling about cannibalism. I’ve come to recognize these things as Freudian Slips. Do you family and friends know you fantasize about gnawing on human flesh? |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by oyatz(m): 1:35pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
xelly: I didn't say that the dead bodies were from Lekki Toll gate but all the dead bodies from around that vicinity were subjected to coronal autopsies to determine if there were some that were killed by bullets. |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by xelly: 1:39pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
oyatz: Why must it be that day that dead bodies was recovered around that vicinity? How many have you recovered afterwards? |
Re: HURIWA: Lai’s Attempt To Rubbish Endsars Report Shows FG Not Coordinated by Tundex911: 3:55pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
I no blame them now cuz na una dey vote for 60 above leaders... Smh
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