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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by kettykin: 10:15pm On Nov 25, 2021
NazoTimes:

Danjuma arrested Aguiyi-Ironsi and questioned him about his alleged complicity in the coup, which saw the demise of the Sardauna of Sokoto, Ahmadu Bello. The circumstances leading to Aguiyi-Ironsi death still remain a subject of much controversy in Nigeria. His body and that of Fajuyi were later discovered in a nearby forest.
could he had been complicit when he actually quashed the coup from lagos

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by ImmaculateJOE(m): 10:22pm On Nov 25, 2021
Redcrafton:


Was Gowon competent...? Ethnic man
Calm down and refresh the comment you quoted.
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Redcrafton: 10:24pm On Nov 25, 2021
ImmaculateJOE:

Calm down and refresh the comment you quoted.


Did you calm down and refresh the copy and paste you did without reading it?
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Fernandeswagger(m): 10:43pm On Nov 25, 2021
Redcrafton:



Did you calm down and refresh the copy and paste you did without reading it?

Bro you dey vex o! grin

Please calm down. We can all learn something here. Nice throwback.
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Rahkman: 10:49pm On Nov 25, 2021
Atleast someone can learn 2 or 3 from civil war threads but this oloripelebe people go just carry their ipob mkpumiri madness and destroy the thread with their jaundiced induced view of the civil war which they lost

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by NazoTimes(m): 12:09am On Nov 26, 2021
illicit:
Danjuma said he lost control of events immediately after the arrest

His junior officer kind of threatened him....

Please share more on this
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by eurogee: 2:29am On Nov 26, 2021
Grow from this parochial sentiment and blind view of things. You obviously lack true historical knowledge of events of 1966 coups. Ironsi was a colossal failure in terms of leadership and don't even know the ABC of running a complex country like Nigeria.

Mind you, iam Igbo too

Redcrafton:


Better than Gen Ogundipe that was "utterly competent"...but the coward ran away to London when he should have taken over...He ran off leaving it to a 29 year old Gowon.

"....Following the coup, he returned to Nigeria, to serve as the Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters Nigerian Defence Forces (de facto Vice President) between January 1966 and August 1966. After the bloody coup which overthrew Aguiyi-Ironsi, he left the country for the United Kingdom.[6] He was criticized in some quarters for his refusal to seize the mantle of office of his supreme commander, who had been murdered in the August 1966 coup, and that this aggravated the pogroms that eventually followed. He was the most senior military officer after the death of Aguiyi-Ironsi, and the thinking was that he ought to have taken power himself..." Wiki...

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by eurogee: 2:34am On Nov 26, 2021
Thanks you so much for your detailed enlightenment. Everything shouldn't be viewed through ethnic prism.

seunmsg:


Ogundipe was also a conservative soldier like Ironsi. I don’t think he would have performed any different from Ironsi if he had taken over.

I understand your bigoted angle but we don’t have to see everything as ethnic war. Ogundipe was not a part of the successful July counter coup and couldn’t have taken over. He sent Gowon to Ikeja immediately after the coup to negotiate with the mutineers led by Murtala but Gowon became a turncoat on the way and negotiated power for himself. So, what do you expect him to do? Fight when there is no single soldier who is ready to fight for him? Ojukwu was in Enugu telling him on phone to take over without sending a single soldier to fight for him. Is that how to take over? You think taking over government is a joke, right?

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by christistruth01: 2:36am On Nov 26, 2021
NwaNimo1:
Treachery.....


It started in January

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by christistruth01: 2:39am On Nov 26, 2021
Redcrafton:


Better than Gen Ogundipe that was "utterly competent"...but the coward ran away to London when he should have taken over...He ran off leaving it to a 29 year old Gowon.

"....Following the coup, he returned to Nigeria, to serve as the Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters Nigerian Defence Forces (de facto Vice President) between January 1966 and August 1966. After the bloody coup which overthrew Aguiyi-Ironsi, he left the country for the United Kingdom.[6] He was criticized in some quarters for his refusal to seize the mantle of office of his supreme commander, who had been murdered in the August 1966 coup, and that this aggravated the pogroms that eventually followed. He was the most senior military officer after the death of Aguiyi-Ironsi, and the thinking was that he ought to have taken power himself..." Wiki...


There were 13 Military formations of Which 11 were headed by Easterners many of them Sandhurst Trained Officers almost all who fled to the East instead of making any attempt to rescue the Kidnapped head of State General Ironsi and his host Col Fajuyi
The one at Abeokuta was Killed and his death was the Trigger for the Northern Counter Coup

gen ogundipe alone was the only one who sent Soldiers to Confront the July 1966 Coup plotters twice

In the First atttempt the Military Cooks,Clerks and Technicians that ogundipe had quickly assembled were Ambushed near the Airport and 30 of them were Killed also killed were 2 European Citizens

At the 2nd attempt gen ogundipe sent gowon to engage with the Coup plotters and get them to surrender but gowon was Captured as a hostage by them and after 2 days they made him their new Leader and head of State


All the Eastern Officers who were battalion Commanders with Troops and Artillery had fled for their lives to the East and Completely abandoned gen ogundipe

So with what exactly did they expect ogundipe to fight with since Ironsi their kinsman had diligently made sure that ogundipe had no fighting Infantry Troop formations under him that he could Command since almost all the Battalions were Commanded by Easterners for reasons best known to Ironsi

The remaining 2 battalions were Commanded by Northerners of which the Commander at Ibadan was a big part of the Coup and Shuwa in far away Kano was already dealing with the Mutiny in Kano

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Godons1: 5:05am On Nov 26, 2021
gidgiddy:
Look at Ironsi's killer, Major Danjuma, in the last picture

Even as he sat there, he knew he was going to kill Ironsi in a few hours time

Good news.
TY Danjuma is the Hero of our time. That's why Nigerians loved him so dearly grin grin

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Praxtech: 5:42am On Nov 26, 2021
christistruth01:



There were 13 Military formations of Which 11 were headed by Easterners many of them Sandhurst Trained Officers who all fled to the East instead of making any attempt to rescue the Kidnapped head of State General Ironsi and his host Col Fajuyi


gen ogundipe alone was the only one who sent Soldiers to Confront the July 1966 Coup plotters twice

In the First atttempt the Military Cooks,Clerks and Technicians that ogundipe had quickly assembled were Ambushed near the Airport and 30 of them were Killed also killed were 2 European Citizens

At the 2nd attempt gen ogundipe sent gowon to engage with the Coup plotters and get them to surrender but gowon was Captured as a hostage by them and after 2 days they made him their new Leader and head of State


All the Eastern Officers who were battalion Commanders with Troops and Artillery had fled for their lives to the East and Completely abandoned gen ogundipe

So with what exactly did they expect ogundipe to fight with since Ironsi their kinsman had diligently made sure that ogundipe had no fighting Infantry Troop formations under him that he could Command since almost all the Battalions were Commanded by Easterners for reasons best known to Ironsi

The remaining 2 battalions were Commanded by Northerners of which the Commander at Ibadan was a big part of the Coup and Shuwa in far away Kano was already deali.ng with the Mutiny in Kano
Appreciated

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by femi4: 5:53am On Nov 26, 2021
He was part of the problem
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by shigishege: 6:04am On Nov 26, 2021
seunmsg:


Ogundipe was also a conservative soldier like Ironsi. I don’t think he would have performed any different from Ironsi if he had taken over.

I understand your bigoted angle but we don’t have to see everything as ethnic war. Ogundipe was not a part of the successful July counter coup and couldn’t have taken over. He sent Gowon to Ikeja immediately after the coup to negotiate with the mutineers led by Murtala but Gowon became a turncoat on the way and negotiated power for himself. So, what do you expect him to do? Fight when there is no single soldier who is ready to fight for him? Ojukwu was in Enugu telling him on phone to take over without sending a single soldier to fight for him. Is that how to take over? You think taking over government is a joke, right?
you can see how bigoted the guy is. They sha must hate anything yoruba

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Mightyhaiz: 6:05am On Nov 26, 2021
FarahAideed:

Grossly incompetent comes across as the Buhari you support
competence to them simply means ability to send truck loads of rampaging soldiers to go murder innocents and destroy properties on a large scale.. once you have a mind to do this on a regular and massive scale,it don't matter if u destroy a florishing economy within a few months of takeover..

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Mightyhaiz: 6:20am On Nov 26, 2021
christistruth01:



There were 13 Military formations of Which 11 were headed by Easterners many of them Sandhurst Trained Officers who all fled to the East instead of making any attempt to rescue the Kidnapped head of State General Ironsi and his host Col Fajuyi


gen ogundipe alone was the only one who sent Soldiers to Confront the July 1966 Coup plotters twice

In the First atttempt the Military Cooks,Clerks and Technicians that ogundipe had quickly assembled were Ambushed near the Airport and 30 of them were Killed also killed were 2 European Citizens

At the 2nd attempt gen ogundipe sent gowon to engage with the Coup plotters and get them to surrender but gowon was Captured as a hostage by them and after 2 days they made him their new Leader and head of State


All the Eastern Officers who were battalion Commanders with Troops and Artillery had fled for their lives to the East and Completely abandoned gen ogundipe

So with what exactly did they expect ogundipe to fight with since Ironsi their kinsman had diligently made sure that ogundipe had no fighting Infantry Troop formations under him that he could Command since almost all the Battalions were Commanded by Easterners for reasons best known to Ironsi

The remaining 2 battalions were Commanded by Northerners of which the Commander at Ibadan was a big part of the Coup and Shuwa in far away Kano was already dealing with the Mutiny in Kano
Eastern officers and men that have already been decimated in the barracks by their northern counterparts in their sleep.. The few who were lucky to miraculously make it to the east had to organise 'waking ceremonies' after their people had earlier organised funeral ceremonies to mourn their 'demise' .


Soldiering is never for the weak hearts.. things began deteriorating when brig ogundipe abdicated his duty. Thats fair weather soldiering. You are a soldier and enjoying all the benefits,respect and honor that comes with it. But when its time to take responsibility and initiative,u suddenly remembered it is a risky job.No excuses for that!


All that is in the distant...ancient past now,but no use distorting facts just to feel good.. Cowardice in the army can lead to death of many.. it did in this case.. over 4m civillian lives

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by AllKnowing: 6:29am On Nov 26, 2021
I am grossly ashamed of Nairalanders

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by CaptainAyub: 6:32am On Nov 26, 2021
Redcrafton:


Better than Gen Ogundipe that was "utterly competent"...but the coward ran away to London when he should have taken over...He ran off leaving it to a 29 year old Gowon.

"....Following the coup, he returned to Nigeria, to serve as the Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters Nigerian Defence Forces (de facto Vice President) between January 1966 and August 1966. After the bloody coup which overthrew Aguiyi-Ironsi, he left the country for the United Kingdom.[6] He was criticized in some quarters for his refusal to seize the mantle of office of his supreme commander, who had been murdered in the August 1966 coup, and that this aggravated the pogroms that eventually followed. He was the most senior military officer after the death of Aguiyi-Ironsi, and the thinking was that he ought to have taken power himself..." Wiki...
Have mercy on that SKULLar

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by CaptainAyub: 6:34am On Nov 26, 2021
seunmsg:


Ogundipe was also a conservative soldier like Ironsi. I don’t think he would have performed any different from Ironsi if he had taken over.

I understand your bigoted angle but we don’t have to see everything as ethnic war. Ogundipe was not a part of the successful July counter coup and couldn’t have taken over. He sent Gowon to Ikeja immediately after the coup to negotiate with the mutineers led by Murtala but Gowon became a turncoat on the way and negotiated power for himself. So, what do you expect him to do? Fight when there is no single soldier who is ready to fight for him? Ojukwu was in Enugu telling him on phone to take over without sending a single soldier to fight for him. Is that how to take over? You think taking over government is a joke, right?
So Gowon and his fellow northerners successfully carried out a mutiny against a yoruba man in yoruba land? cheesy
No be today grin
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by CaptainAyub: 6:37am On Nov 26, 2021
seunmsg:


Still doesn’t change the fact that Ironsi was grossly incompetent and unprepared for the role of head of state.
Better than Ogundipe who was grossly cowardly.
At least he tried at all.
Ogundipe a yoruba man allowed northern boys to brush him aside in Yoruba land.
Same with Ernest Shonekan.
Be like na "I go slap you" Abacha tell am,he cowardly "hands up" and ran away

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Oblongata: 6:39am On Nov 26, 2021
seunmsg:
The man who should never have been head of state. He was a conservative soldier who had little or no idea on how to run a complex and diverse country like Nigeria. Grossly incompetent and was never prepared for office. No wonder he couldn’t last for more than 6 months.

Looking back now, I think things would have taken a different dimension if the original coupist of 15tb January, 1966 had formed the government instead of the reactionary government of Ironsi. Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna, Ademoyega etc were better educated and prepared for government. Maybe we would have avoided the bloody counter coup and the bloodier civil war that we are yet to recover from.
I can’t but agree with you! ‘The crocodile’ was not cut out for politics. He should have transferred his power to a better trusted ally. We would have been saved from civil war, and even Biafra agitations.

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by CaptainAyub: 6:41am On Nov 26, 2021
christistruth01:



There were 13 Military formations of Which 11 were headed by Easterners many of them Sandhurst Trained Officers who all fled to the East instead of making any attempt to rescue the Kidnapped head of State General Ironsi and his host Col Fajuyi


gen ogundipe alone was the only one who sent Soldiers to Confront the July 1966 Coup plotters twice

In the First atttempt the Military Cooks,Clerks and Technicians that ogundipe had quickly assembled were Ambushed near the Airport and 30 of them were Killed also killed were 2 European Citizens

At the 2nd attempt gen ogundipe sent gowon to engage with the Coup plotters and get them to surrender but gowon was Captured as a hostage by them and after 2 days they made him their new Leader and head of State


All the Eastern Officers who were battalion Commanders with Troops and Artillery had fled for their lives to the East and Completely abandoned gen ogundipe

So with what exactly did they expect ogundipe to fight with since Ironsi their kinsman had diligently made sure that ogundipe had no fighting Infantry Troop formations under him that he could Command since almost all the Battalions were Commanded by Easterners for reasons best known to Ironsi

The remaining 2 battalions were Commanded by Northerners of which the Commander at Ibadan was a big part of the Coup and Shuwa in far away Kano was already dealing with the Mutiny in Kano
Culled from Oluwole news
Eastern soldiers that were being killed in their beds simultaneously as Aguiyi-Ironsi was being killed?
The ease with which you Yoruba ppl lie eee.
Thank God for social media

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by christistruth01: 7:14am On Nov 26, 2021
CaptainAyub:

Culled from Oluwole news
Eastern soldiers that were being killed in their beds simultaneously as Aguiyi-Ironsi was being killed?
The ease with which you Yoruba ppl lie eee.
Thank God for social media

Only the one at Abeokuta was killed all the other Eastern Commanders of Military formations fled to the East
none attempted to put down the Northern Coup

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Ladiesdoctor(m): 7:21am On Nov 26, 2021
He brought disharmony into the military

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Kingcalls: 7:33am On Nov 26, 2021
Only men are on this thread.....u will not see all those small small boys here.... they will just jump and pass... so if u wanna know the kids on this forum, invite them and watch how they will decline ur invite.... another set that will avoid this post are women.... invite them and see how unintelligent they really are , even if they try to contribute
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by seunmsg(m): 7:46am On Nov 26, 2021
CaptainAyub:

Better than Ogundipe who was grossly cowardly.
At least he tried at all.
Ogundipe a yoruba man allowed northern boys to brush him aside in Yoruba land.
Same with Ernest Shonekan.
Be like na "I go slap you" Abacha tell am,he cowardly "hands up" and ran away

I am not here to paint Ogundipe with a brush of competence, at least not politically. I have said it earlier that he was a conservative soldier like Ironsi and wouldn’t have fared any better if he was made head of state.

As 2-1c to Gowon, Ogundipe was more interested in allocation of quarters to soldiers at the barracks than administering the burning country. He was also not prepared for politics. That’s is why I said things might have turned out differently for the country if the original plotters of 15th January, 1966 had taken over the government instead of the grossly incompetent government of Ironsi and Ogundipe. Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu, Ademoyega and the other majors were by far more educated and politically prepared for governance than old soldiers like Ironsi and Ogundipe. If you still want to keep playing the ethnic card after this, enjoy yourself.

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by christistruth01: 7:59am On Nov 26, 2021
seunmsg:


I am not here to paint Ogundipe with a brush of competence, at least not politically. I have said it earlier that he was a conservative soldier like Ironsi and wouldn’t have fared any better if he was made head of state.

As 2-1c to Gowon, Ogundipe was more interested in allocation of quarters to soldiers at the barracks than administering the burning country. He was also not prepared for politics. That’s is why I said things might have turned out differently for the country if the original plotters of 15th January, 1966 had taken over the government instead of the grossly incompetent government of Ironsi and Ogundipe. Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu, Ademoyega and the other majors were by far more educated and politically prepared for governance than old soldiers like Ironsi and Ogundipe. If you still want to keep playing the ethnic card after this, enjoy yourself.



Ogundipe according to Gen Welby Everade the last British Head of Army was the most Competent Officer in the Nigerian Army that was why Gen Ironsi refused to put him in Charge of any Infantry Troop formations

He Could have Checkmated any Sinister plan If he had troops under him

Ironsi wanted Ogundipe to be a toothless bulldog and that backfired during the Northern Coup because Ogundipe had no Infantry Troops to Counter the Coup with

To make matters Worse all the Surviving Easterneners who were infantry Commanders had all fled to the East

It was only in 2 unavoidable circumstances that Ironsi allowed non Easterners to be in Charge of any Military formations with Troops
Col Akahan at Ibadan because the Northern Troops there rejected any Southerners after their last 2 Northern GOCs Maimailari and Largema were Murdered in the Coup and Far away Kano

Ogundipe had Joined the Army as a 17 year Old during the 2 nd World War and had fought in Burma against the Japanese

Ogundipe knew Perfectly well those who were behind the January Coup that had Murdered the furious Northern Soldiers leaders he also knew Perfectly well why Ironsi didn't want him in Charge of any Infantry Troops

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Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by NazoTimes(m): 8:57am On Nov 26, 2021
AllKnowing:
I am grossly ashamed of Nairalanders

No be today something, very annoying behavior
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by joyandfaith: 9:01am On Nov 26, 2021
NazoTimes:

Danjuma arrested Aguiyi-Ironsi and questioned him about his alleged complicity in the coup, which saw the demise of the Sardauna of Sokoto, Ahmadu Bello. The circumstances leading to Aguiyi-Ironsi death still remain a subject of much controversy in Nigeria. His body and that of Fajuyi were later discovered in a nearby forest.

Danjuma killed for fulani oligarchy. And now fulani people are tormenting and killing his people. North central people are original slaves to kanuri-fulani political hegemony.
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Idiko1: 9:16am On Nov 26, 2021
seunmsg:
The man who should never have been head of state. He was a conservative soldier who had little or no idea on how to run a complex and diverse country like Nigeria. Grossly incompetent and was never prepared for office. No wonder he couldn’t last for more than 6 months.

Looking back now, I think things would have taken a different dimension if the original coupist of 15tb January, 1966 had formed the government instead of the reactionary government of Ironsi. Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna, Ademoyega etc were better educated and prepared for government. Maybe we would have avoided the bloody counter coup and the bloodier civil war that we are yet to recover from.

It is either you do not know the denotation of gross or incompetency or both. Aguiyi Ironsi managed the affairs of international military outfit in a faraway country and never was adjudged as incompetent by superiors. Ironsi was mere naive as most dumbass Nigerians seem to appear today.
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by Idiko1: 9:21am On Nov 26, 2021
seunmsg:


Ogundipe was also a conservative soldier like Ironsi. I don’t think he would have performed any different from Ironsi if he had taken over.

I understand your bigoted angle but we don’t have to see everything as ethnic war. Ogundipe was not a part of the successful July counter coup and couldn’t have taken over. He sent Gowon to Ikeja immediately after the coup to negotiate with the mutineers led by Murtala but Gowon became a turncoat on the way and negotiated power for himself. So, what do you expect him to do? Fight when there is no single soldier who is ready to fight for him? Ojukwu was in Enugu telling him on phone to take over without sending a single soldier to fight for him. Is that how to take over? You think taking over government is a joke, right?

A nonsensical fabrication!!!
Re: Throwback Photos Of Aguiyi Ironsi Visiting Ibadan Before His Arrest And Murder by goodLord3dg2: 9:28am On Nov 26, 2021
I don't understand this write up!!
Is it a mystery? of what?

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