The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction - Politics (6) - Nairaland
Nairaland Forum › Nairaland General › Politics › The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction (105570 Views)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ... 91 Reply (Go Down)
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by OfoIgbo: 2:48am On Nov 29, 2021 |
ChinenyeN:You are the person to provide these bibliographies, after all you have access to these modern books by Alagoa and the rest. We also look forward to any pre-colonial documents from the Portuguese, Spanish or any neutral European operators in Ubani, that you may be basing your assertions on. In this forum, I was able to show translated snippets from Portuguese explorers, written about 550 years ago, to prove that the NRI kingdom was the cultural and religious overlord of Benin empire. All you need to do, is to provide a few pre colonial documents to back your assertions |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by BKayy: 2:48am On Nov 29, 2021 |
paramakina202:bomb24, this person I just quoted is still the same person you are talking about. Paramakina202 is one of their handles. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by ThickSharon123(f): 2:49am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Ekealterego:Okay, I understand. But we Igbos need to know we were born with respect, and pride and we do not come to their level of hate. For me, even if my mom is Igbo, I'm proud to be called an Igbo woman. And I will do anything to foster the unity. We should simply focus on bringing the Igbo kin together and showing them the love that we were all born through our chi is still present. The chi, which connects us and stop wallowing in the filth of the opposing tribes which try to differentiate, for the reason I can't fathom till today. I like threads like this, which brings facts and justifies it. No exchanging words, and calling aboriginals of the land slaves, like some people do here. How would an Igbo majority which have overturned the language to strictly Igbo's be slaves in the same land as you. Here how I feel it went during the civil war: The Igbos were found majorly around the coastal waters with their neighbours such as Ijaws and the Ibibios. But when the civil war broke out, the naval forces lined the coast and prevented anything Igbo from coming near the coast, becuase if they believed you were iGbo you were good as dead. This gave the added advantage of the Izon people to come into such lands, changing what they wanted and making it their own. I'll like to call it a subtle way to conquer and acculturalize. The Igbos had no choice than to quickly accept the tribe which they felt safe, but still kept who they are secretly. This reminds me of the Aztecs (or one red Indian tribe) of México. When the Spaniards came into the land, they wanted them to be Christians by force and do away with their traditional worship. But the Aztecs found a subtle way to satisfy their colonialist, they simply took the Catholic worship but imbibed most of the ritual there with their traditional rituals. So, unknowingly for the Spanish conquerors they were still worshiping their goddess, although it seemed they were worshiping or holding reverence to Mary. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by BKayy: 2:50am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 3:16am On Nov 29, 2021 |
ChinenyeN:Only Ijaw people quite Alagoa and with all due respect madam/sir you have proven beyond both reasonable and unreasonable doubt that you are Ijaw. Quit the games and come clean as an Ijaw. BTW, Alagoa and Fombo's work was in 1972 not 1960's like you claimed. Look at your references, none was before the war. Before the war, nobody from Bonny and Opobo identified as anything other than Igbo. After the war identity crises caused by revision from Minorities is what I call "scramble for Igboland by Minorities"
|
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by BKayy: 2:53am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 3:17am On Nov 29, 2021 |
OfoIgbo:She is going to disappoint you. Ijaw people like her only reference Alagoa's lies of 1970 and 1972, nothing more. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by BKayy: 2:55am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Putindbutt:And, tell us the name of one recorded Ijaw sláve merchant? You people don't know how to lie. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by BKayy: 3:01am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Ekealterego:She is fond of doing that. Ngwa is one dialect that is too clear to any part of Igboland but to make her balkanization mission take root, she combine unintelligible consonants to trick naive people to think that Ngwá is that distinct. I love the way Igboid halted her at inception. Just look at this ChinenyeN: |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Zooposki(f): 3:07am On Nov 29, 2021 |
SlayerForever:Got it. Thanks |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by EzeCanada: 4:52am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 4:21am On Nov 30, 2021 |
Ekealterego:How about Waikirike i.e Nwa Ikirike ( There is a highland clan known as Ikirike in Enugwu) |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by EmmaJnr1: 5:55am On Nov 29, 2021 |
9Pluto:I get u. I bin no want talk but that guy has an agenda so I had to give him a brain reset. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by oyatz(m): 6:02am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Pass11:So why are they not part of Ohaneze Ndigbo or Aka Ikenga? Why are they not using Eze of Bonny or Eze of Opobo? |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Ekealterego: 6:20am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 7:08am On Nov 29, 2021 |
ThickSharon123:Yes, I agree. You see, sometimes due to the nature of places like this, you cannot bring some facts in isolation. Like you cannot establish some facts about Opobo, without talking about Bonny and the history of Okrika and New Calabar. As you can see, we have all played fair by digging up painstakingly digging up history all these while and basing our arguments on truth rather out of desperation by lying. ...but you see these other guys, they don't even play fair. You know that they tried with resources and everything to curse identity crisis at Ndoki because they see that the history of Ndoki and Bonny can be linked also, especially regarding the first settlers. They even paid one or two hungry people in Ndoki in Abia state to join their meetings and went as far as going to their king's palace. Mind you, Ndoki in Abia state is as Igbo as anything. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by oyatz(m): 6:35am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Putindbutt:More than others, this post summarize the most neutral picture of Bonny. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Kwem(m): 6:36am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Ekealterego:wa-krike nwa-okoike nwa-ike nwa-kike all these sounds almost alike and thesame meaning tho |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by cheruv: 6:47am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Ekealterego:Please I'd like you to send me the books you posted your excerpts from so that i can use them for a research... Here's my mail: cheruvskiy@gmail.com |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Kwem(m): 7:00am On Nov 29, 2021 |
EzeCanada:Jesus!! You see I didn't see your comment before I made my comment and they're almost the same... |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Kwem(m): 7:03am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Ekealterego:you're right... |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by DitariDisciple2: 7:28am On Nov 29, 2021 |
EmmaJnr1:Just say there are no Ijaw in Nigeria. It will cool your frusrated soul better. Ijaws are larger than Ibo in population. Why didn't Ibo use their false population figure and swallow Nigeria up already? Landlocked dot circle Biafra Republic. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by EzeCanada: 7:33am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 2:25pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
Kwem:These are known and established facts. Igbos are indigenous to these lands stretching into and over the Atlantic ocean all the way to the islands including Equatorial Guinea where they are the third largest tribe. Here's a piece of evidence: https://yolar.co/igbo-third-largest-tribe-bioko-equatorial-guinea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpQqp1LbFr0 |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by cheruv: 7:47am On Nov 29, 2021 |
ChinenyeN:Can you send me the links to these works so that I can download them? I seem to have issues locating them online |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Ekealterego: 7:58am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 8:40am On Nov 29, 2021 |
cheruv:Hi bro, because some of these are old scanned books, it may exceed the limits of data an email can carry. I will find a way to write down the reference list. Luckily, many of them are on worldcat, archive.com and even some on Google books. Some are scanned photocopies, especially on Google books. Some are on Jstor but I think you will need subscribed login or institutional login. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by cheruv: 8:05am On Nov 29, 2021 |
oyatz:Hiding your Igbo phobia under a mask of civility... |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by SlayerForever: 8:20am On Nov 29, 2021 |
ThickSharon123:We are just telling them the Ijaws that we have the details of all those tribes in our hands. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by RobbStark(m): 8:39am On Nov 29, 2021 |
The obsession, the greed in their heart to Kay claim to a placebin which the people want nothing to do with them. You claim you own Bonny n Opobo, yet they don't sell lands to you people. After going thro all the trash you forked out, you people fail to know that there wasn't anytown like Opobo until after the bonny war where Jaja has to leave with 14houses from bonny to form what is today Opobo town. The simple question binhave asked you miscreants foaming in the mouth is this, how come, Jaja never named his children Ibo names. Do your research. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Igboid: 9:03am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 9:29am On Nov 29, 2021 |
BKayy:This is why I hated talks of BIAFRA with minorities as proposed by IPOB. I was totally against it, which pitched me against my IPOB brothers here. These minorities aided by Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba, scrambled for and grabbed our coastal lands, in places they couldn't grab, they introduced and continue to introduce strong Igbophobia among the populace to atleast make sure the Indigenous become anti Igbo, they started late in Ndoki, at a time Igbo nationalism had awakened and we fought them to a standstill. And going by their lack of remorse up till today, you can see that they hope to keep these lands forever and have no plans of returning them back without violence or use of force on our own part. It's only common sense that we have a score to settle with these lots once we manage to keep Hausa-Fulani and Yorubas who backed and Continue to back them away, and they know it too, which is why despite the rape they suffer under Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba ruled NIGERIA, they will never lash out to them or even attempt secession. Our work is cut out. Anyone or group talking about a country between us and Ijaws, only exposes their lack of understanding of issues at play here, and cannot get my support. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by DitariDisciple2: 9:09am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Igboid:Ijaws are larger than Ibo in population. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Jomonix: 9:32am On Nov 29, 2021 |
9Pluto:Please where can I get this book. I want to read on know. Thanks |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by 9Pluto(op): 9:38am On Nov 29, 2021*. Modified: 10:12am On Nov 29, 2021 |
Jomonix:Just Google,'Memoirs of Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool'. Aside proving the identity of Bonny natives, the book renders a fantastic account of the slave trade era. It contains details of what life was like for most European(mainly British) Sailors. There are a lot more in the book we could talk about, so I encourage guys to read up and come share your findings. The intent is for this thread to elicit an intellectual discourse and not some rabid noise typical of educated illiterates. So far, I have seen some interesting additions to the conversation especially from @Ekealterego for which I am grateful. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by OfoIgbo: 9:42am On Nov 29, 2021 |
EzeCanada:I know Ikirike village. It is on a hill. Very close to where public executions used to take place in Enugu. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by peleson1: 9:49am On Nov 29, 2021 |
More like a foreigner who has never visited Igbo land tell u ur history as a visitor.. Opobo and Bonny are ibani-ijaws and not Igbo or Biafra.. No foreigner can tell us our story better. We are ibani ijaws of Niger delta |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by Nobody: 9:49am On Nov 29, 2021 |
oyatz:That's a fallacy, the Ohanaeze Ndigbo has no charter on the tribal composition of the Igbo race -unlike the ijaw organization that without consultations ,subscribed tribal groups into there charter. The people of Asaba called there king the Asagba of Asaba. They don't use Eze. You see, Eze is a generic term and some other Igbo communities use other terms to denote there kings. |
| Re: The True Identity Of Bonny/Opobo(UBANI) People Facts Versus Fiction by SlayerForever: 9:55am On Nov 29, 2021 |
9Pluto:I will read the book!!! |
Rivers: APP's Anengi Barasua Declared Winner of Bonny LGA Election • The True Identity Of Bonny/opobo People: Facts Vs Fiction (VIDEO) • Ndoki, Bonny, Opobo • 2 • 3 • 4
Olufemi Olu-kayode Confirms Audu's Death • President Buhari Suspends EndSARS Protests Nationwide • Have You Received Your FGN Survival Fund Alert?