Alabo7978:

Funny to you, you think I am purely ijo, but I am Nembe.
In ijo, we do not see ourselves as ijo and even most times we fight and quarell amongst ourselves.
Many Nembeians have some reasons to dislike the ijo, and ijo will have reason to dislike the Nembe man.
Go motor pack for bayelsa Dem dey fight, and we Nembeians mock their intonations because they pronounce jump as zump. While them they see us as proud and usually wealthy.
Same with Greece, all the city states like Athens, Sparta, Crete, Corinth ,aegena, Argos , Rhodes quarell within themselves and live by there city states but when Xerxes of Persia came, they knew they were together GREEKS at large.

Though we fight and argue amongst ourselves and call each other names but when there is a foreign invasion, like the Greeks we will stand and repel, then after we will continue with our malice.
You bkayy, Ekealterego SlayerForever Igboid biafrarep etc are all foreign Invaders.
I even carefully searched on baikie works, and he links Bonny to the other ijoh clans. Now I know y'all were just filtering things.
You see the numbering system?
We Nembeians count
Kio
Mai
Trai
Neene
Sono
Sondio
Sonomai
Etc

You see the resemblance with all other ijo counting?

Even the screenshot showed igbos were a secondary language.
Even this screenshot talked about the German doctor.
(Read carefully this time) I won't stress myself again to pick out points.
The igbos have been known to walk up and down and not staying in their place.
In ijo land I am a Nembe man, and if an ijoh man annoys me, I go burst him head, but when an ijo man is bullied by a foreign Invaders or when a foreign Invaders bullies any other clan, we all we assemble.
That is the beauty of we the ijo Ethnic nation!

Dear Sir,

Kindly accept my challenge so that you would present all your submissions LIVE.

Alabo7978:

Funny to you, you think I am purely ijo, but I am Nembe.
In ijo, we do not see ourselves as ijo and even most times we fight and quarell amongst ourselves.
Many Nembeians have some reasons to dislike the ijo, and ijo will have reason to dislike the Nembe man.
Go motor pack for bayelsa Dem dey fight, and we Nembeians mock their intonations because they pronounce jump as zump. While them they see us as proud and usually wealthy.
Same with Greece, all the city states like Athens, Sparta, Crete, Corinth ,aegena, Argos , Rhodes quarell within themselves and live by there city states but when Xerxes of Persia came, they knew they were together GREEKS at large.

Though we fight and argue amongst ourselves and call each other names but when there is a foreign invasion, like the Greeks we will stand and repel, then after we will continue with our malice.
You bkayy, Ekealterego SlayerForever Igboid biafrarep etc are all foreign Invaders.
I even carefully searched on baikie works, and he links Bonny to the other ijoh clans. Now I know y'all were just filtering things.
You see the numbering system?
We Nembeians count
Kio
Mai
Trai
Neene
Sono
Sondio
Sonomai
Etc

You see the resemblance with all other ijo counting?

Even the screenshot showed igbos were a secondary language.
Even this screenshot talked about the German doctor.
(Read carefully this time) I won't stress myself again to pick out points.
The igbos have been known to walk up and down and not staying in their place.
In ijo land I am a Nembe man, and if an ijoh man annoys me, I go burst him head, but when an ijo man is bullied by a foreign Invaders or when a foreign Invaders bullies any other clan, we all we assemble.
That is the beauty of we the ijo Ethnic nation!

What document is this you shared?
Let me guess? Alagoa?

Well the discussion here is not about Nembe.
So I don't think any Igbo man really care what you Nembe people call yourselves.
That's you local issues to iron out with your Ijaw people.

I know that Nembe people naturally claim Edo origin and have lots of admixture with Aboh.

Pass11:

Alabo7978 accept the live
debate

I am a very busy young man, and most times I wish I can divide myself into two or three because of what I do.
I didn't even know there have been an Ethnic land grabbing war by ibos going on in nairaland, check my monicker, I have only been here less than 2weeks.
My other monicker Anonymous15 is fairly old, but I wasn't active.
I am not a spokes man of the ijo people neither am I even in the IYC or any other Ethnic faction.
I will pass on that debate because I don't have the energy and the time.
But when it becomes needed, I will come out because it isn't for the sake of some cheap nairaland points, and like ditaridesciple2 and the other ijo men will say, your claiming is only online.
Even nnamdi kanu an intelligent researcher knows the ijoh are an Ethnic group only affiliated with the ibos by trade, we are a very dinstinct people.
I want y'all to go to wakirike(okrika) kalabari, and Bonny to go and claim them as them being descendants of Igbo, they will deal with you fuckers very well and remind y'all igbo only had to earn their freedom from slavery after helping Asimini in battle.

Igboid:


What document is this you shared?
Let me guess? Alagoa?

Well the discussion here is not about Nembe.
So I don't think any Igbo man really care what you Nembe people call yourselves.
That's you local issues to iron out with your Ijaw people.

I know that Nembe people naturally claim Edo origin and have lots of admixture with Aboh.

Your one and only baikie
And Nembe do not claim Edo origin.
Only a few families claim.
Like the first warlord which came to oroamabiri ran away from iselema;warri.
Some families trace their ancestry from some other itshekiri tribe, but were assimilated into the other ijo descendants who were there and they INTERMARRIED, but majorly, Nembe is of ijo.

Alabo7978:

I am a very busy young man, and most times I wish I can divide myself into two or three because of what I do.
I didn't even know there have been an Ethnic land grabbing war by ibos going on in nairaland, check my monicker, I have only been here less than 2weeks.
My other monicker Anonymous15 is fairly old, but I wasn't active.
I am not a spokes man of the ijo people neither am I even in the IYC or any other Ethnic faction.
I will pass on that debate because I don't have the energy and the time.
But when it becomes needed, I will come out because it isn't for the sake of some cheap nairaland points, and like ditaridesciple2 and the other ijo men will say, your claiming is only online.
Even nnamdi kanu an intelligent researcher knows the ijoh are an Ethnic group only affiliated with the ibos by trade, we are a very dinstinct people.
I want y'all to go to wakirike(okrika) kalabari, and Bonny to go and claim them as them being descendants of Igbo, they will deal with you fuckers very well and remind y'all igbo only had to earn their freedom from slavery after helping Asimini in battle.

Dude Asimini and Okpara Ndoli were both Igbos.
The slave masters in Bonny were Igbo. The enslaved were mainly Igbos as well.

I don't understand what any of the above have to do with an outsider like you?
You are not of Asimini lineage which is Igbo, neither were you of the slaves lineage which were Igbo as well.
So what's your own?

Alabo7978:

Your one and only baikie
And Nembe do not claim Edo origin.
Only a few families claim.
Like the first warlord which came to oroamabiri ran away from iselema;warri.
Some families trace their ancestry from some other itshekiri tribe, but were assimilated into the other ijo descendants who were there and they INTERMARRIED, but majorly, Nembe is of ijo.

Liar.
That's not Baike. I can already see citation of Fombo in the article.
This is Ijaw fabrication.

The part Baike was quoted clearly noted that from the Brass river, to New Calabar, to Andoni all speak different language from the Ijos!
That's what Baike noted.
Every other thing in that book is but a figment of the authors imagination.

It's getting interesting

Igboid:


Dude Asimini and Okpara Ndoli were both Igbos.
The slave masters in Bonny were Igbo. The enslaved were mainly Igbos as well.

I don't understand what any of the above have to do with an outsider like you?
You are not of Asimini lineage which is Igbo, neither were you of the slaves lineage which were Igbo as well.
So what's your own?

Too bad the Alabo dude rushed to pick the aspect that mentioned Wari. Cultural borrowing took place during the Kingship of Asimini. Asimini and Haliday were Igbos. Asimini only made adjustment to Bonny house system due to the wars with her neighbours. Bonny needed to be militarized to protect her trade deals against rival tribes. And so Asimini changed the system of the original Ndoki bloodline kindred into a war canoe house where men needed to prove themselves to earn recognition. And the only place to prove yourself was in battle.

Till today Bonny house system includes those from the original settlers and their generations. Such as Haliday, Asimini, Kambasa, Ndoli, Alagbarinye, Opuamakuba etc and those whose house forms part of the Wari system instituted by Asimini. Now most slaves who won battles with Asimini in the Andoni war became freeborn and got Wari to themselves. Ex-Ijaw slaves got Wari named after them and hinterland Igbos ex-slaves got same.

Asimini made Bonny great and also caused the identity crisis that hangs around Bonny today.

Alabo7978:

Your one and only baikie
And Nembe do not claim Edo origin.
Only a few families claim.
Like the first warlord which came to oroamabiri ran away from iselema;warri.
Some families trace their ancestry from some other itshekiri tribe, but were assimilated into the other ijo descendants who were there and they INTERMARRIED, but majorly, Nembe is of ijo.

Nembe say they are not Ijaw and continuously reject Ijaw tag.
But like I said. That's your internal problem to solve.
Ndiigbo have no interest in your Nembe.
For the Igbo, you have to be speaking a recognizable and intelligible Igbo dialect as mother tongue, to be considered as Igbo.

If you had succeeded in making the Igbos in Bonny and Opobo to drop Igbo as their mother tongue, I tell, even me will have no interest in them.
I mean , why would I want to call someone I can't speak my local language with a brother?
It doesn't make sense. The Igbo society is an exclusive one, your only way in, is Igbo language.
If You don't speak Igbo as mother tongue, your stories of origin from us is like a "shoot bird em mama fly" story to us.
For example we all know that Igbide in Isoko land migrated from Mgbidi and Awka in Igboland. Their history says so, and they retain aspects of Igbo culture till this day.
But because the people had lost their Indigenous Igbo language and now speak Isoko as mother tongue.
No Igbo person will even want them in our gatherings, their stories of Igbo origin in this case means nothing to us.

So yeah! Unless it's proven that there are parts of Nembe speaking Igbo as mother tongue, Ndiigbo have no interest in your Nembe. You are not relevant to us Biko.

Eastlink:
Too bad the Alabo dude rushed to pick the aspect that mentioned Wari. Cultural borrowing took place during the Kingship of Asimini. Asimini and Haliday were Igbos. Asimini only made adjustment to Bonny house system due to the wars with her neighbours. Bonny needed to be militarized to protect her trade deals against rival tribes. And so Asimini changed the system of the original Ndoki bloodline kindred into a war canoe house where men needed to prove themselves to earn recognition. And the only place to prove yourself war in battle.

Of course, Igbos are masters of adaptation and reproduction.
We copy and assimilate aspects of other people culture we find beneficial easily.
The Colonials recognized that in one of the extracts posted here.

Asimini proved himself a real Igbo man. Quickly jettisoning the Igbo Okpara system for the alien "Wari" system that had proven more efficient for survival in the riverine terrain.

Very impressive.

Alabo7978:

I am a very busy young man, and most times I wish I can divide myself into two or three because of what I do.
I didn't even know there have been an Ethnic land grabbing war by ibos going on in nairaland, check my monicker, I have only been here less than 2weeks.
My other monicker Anonymous15 is fairly old, but I wasn't active.
I am not a spokes man of the ijo people neither am I even in the IYC or any other Ethnic faction.
I will pass on that debate because I don't have the energy and the time.
But when it becomes needed, I will come out because it isn't for the sake of some cheap nairaland points, and like ditaridesciple2 and the other ijo men will say, your claiming is only online.
Even nnamdi kanu an intelligent researcher knows the ijoh are an Ethnic group only affiliated with the ibos by trade, we are a very dinstinct people.
I want y'all to go to wakirike(okrika) kalabari, and Bonny to go and claim them as them being descendants of Igbo, they will deal with you fuckers very well and remind y'all igbo only had to earn their freedom from slavery after helping Asimini in battle.

You have once more proven yourself true to type as described by European explorers over 200 years ago.

All of a sudden you are not IYC spokesperson, perhaps I mentioned to you I am Ohaneze spokesperson.

You are indeed the busiest man on earth(I can bet you, you do not have more commitment than I do), yet you have spent over 2 days here spewing falsehood. Then all of a sudden you can't spare 1 hour on a live debate.

This is my one and only account here, but I discovered the alarming attempts at revisionism that is going on in the delta hence my submissions.

Interestingly, the truth has come to bare. No amount of laying murderous ambush trying to eliminate natives and trying to usurp their God-given language will erase the ancestory of a people. You can kill as many as you have done and try destroying historical landmarks but carefully kept historical documents are beyond your murderous reach.


Tell IYC someone is bold enough to challenge their claims.

Igboid:


Dude Asimini and Okpara Ndoli were both Igbos.
The slave masters in Bonny were Igbo. The enslaved were mainly Igbos as well.

I don't understand what any of the above have to do with an outsider like you?
You are not of Asimini lineage which is Igbo, neither were you of the slaves lineage which were Igbo as well.
So what's your own?

Big fat smelly lies.
The Bonny people bare blood relationship with Nembe, they marry our women, and their women are married into our clan too.
We have been trading together with the Portuguese before your friends the British came.
Any Igbo man found in Bonny were business men who came to exchange palm oil, yam, etc, infact Asimini married his daughter Kambasa to an ndoki man because of yams and vegetables, maize and other good foods the ibos planted.
Before the British came, the ancient okoloama people and other ijo people including the Nembeians traded salt and camwood with the Portuguese or the Benin empire who inturn bring their cash crop. Then no Igbo man came this far south.
Infact the small wave of migration leadby Alepe and his brother the founder of Bonny came from Kolokuma when they were searching for their brothers who migrated to kalabari and ndoki. One settled at Okoloama (curlew town) Alepe moved on to Nembe. That is why the Nembe people and Bonny people see themselves as brothers and we fight side by side for hundreds of years.
We also call Okoloama okolainama
You see the resemblance
Even the numbering.

That is why the okrika(which use to be an ijo fishing camp)
Kalabari, we the Nembeians and the bonnys see ourselves as ijaw because of the migration.

Alabo7978:

Big fat smelly lies.
The Bonny people bare blood relationship with Nembe, they marry our women, and their women are married into our clan too.
We have been trading together with the Portuguese before your friends the British came.
Any Igbo man found in Bonny were business men who came to exchange palm oil, yam, etc, infact Asimini married his daughter Kambasa to an ndoki man because of yams and vegetables, maize and other good foods the ibos planted.
Before the British came, the ancient okoloama people and other ijo people including the Nembeians traded salt and camwood with the Portuguese or the Benin empire who inturn bring their cash crop. Then no Igbo man came this far south.
Infact the small wave of migration leadby Alepe and his brother the founder of Bonny came from Kolokuma when they were searching for their brothers who migrated to kalabari and ndoki. One settled at Okoloama (curlew town) Alepe moved on to Nembe. That is why the Nembe people and Bonny people see themselves as brothers and we fight side by side for hundreds of years.
We also call Okoloama okolainama
You see the resemblance
Even the numbering.

That is why the okrika(which use to be an ijo fishing camp)
Kalabari, we the Nembeians and the bonnys see ourselves as ijaw because of the migration.

You have obviously ran out of points.

The Bonny spoke Igbo language in the past and still do so today.
If there are Ijaws in Bonny, they were migrants.
At no point was Bonny Ijaw speaking.

Ekealterego:

No influx at all bro.
It is there in old records

That Ihe and Ututu at the far east are trapped in Akwa Ibom state today.

Igboid:


You have obviously ran out of points.

The Bonny spoke Igbo language in the past and still do so today.
If there are Ijaws in Bonny, they were migrants.
At no point was Bonny Ijaw speaking.

Tell that to pepple, crowther, and the German doctor koeller who was a doctor at Bonny.
Once a slave, always a slave.
You're a loser.
Bye bye.

SlayerForever:



That Ihe and Ututu at the far east are trapped in Akwa Ibom state today.

Ututu is in Abia.
But they lost large squats of their territories to the Efiks they accomodated in the past as customary tenants.
Immediately after the war, those Efiks started demanding to be returned to their kin and kiths in Odukpani LGA in Cross River, Ututu people insisted that they can return to Odukpani but not with Ututu lands that Ututu gave to them when they lost their own homeland in Odukpani during a war.

The case was taken to FG and as always, the Hausa-Fulanis eager to shrink Igboland as much as possible ruled in favor of the Efiks, so they were added to Odukpani and Ututu people lost a huge amount of their lands.

I made a thread on this in the past.
https://www.nairaland.com/3678818/interesting-history-ututu-people-abia
Biafra war cost us alot.

Alabo7978:

Tell that to pepple, crowther, and the German doctor koeller who was a doctor at Bonny.
Once a slave, always a slave.
You're a loser.
Bye bye.

If only you can just show where it was written that Bonny people were Ijaws there, all will be fine.

Igboid:


Ututu is in Abia.
But they lost large squats of their territories to the Efiks they accomodated in the past as customary tenants.
Immediately after the war, those Efiks started demanding to be returned to their kin and kiths in Odukpani LGA in Cross River, Ututu people insisted that they can return to Odukpani but not with Ututu lands that Ututu gave to them when they lost their own homeland in Odukpani during a war.

The case was taken to FG and as always, the Hausa-Fulanis eager to shrink Igboland as much as possible ruled in favor of the Efiks, so they were added to Odukpani and Ututu people lost a huge amount of their lands.

I made a thread on this in the past.
https://www.nairaland.com/3678818/interesting-history-ututu-people-abia
Biafra war cost us alot.

They should either get ready for renegotiations or get ready for war.

Igboid:


Lol!
Ikwerres say Igbos are thieves who want their land and oil, therefore, Ikwerres are not Igbo speakers, they are Ijaw.

That's the logic the Ijaw man is presenting to show that Bonny is Ijaw.

Wherever the German was at the time of documenting was a predominantly Ibani village. Hence they described Bonny from their own perspective.

SlayerForever:




They should either get ready for renegotiations or get ready for war.

Nah.
We should let them be.
The people are not Igbo speaking, we can't send them out of a land they now call ancestral lands.
Ututu ancestors messed up.
When you want to give visitors land, you give them lands in your centre where you surround them and slowly assimilate them. And not at your boundaries where they share boundary with their brothers who they speak a language you don't understand.
That's exactly what Wise Isoko ancestors did to Igbo ancestors of Igbide town. They accepted and gave them lands in the middle of Isokoland and slowly assimilated and Isokonized them, this way they can nolonger clamour to be reunited with Igbos.
That's how you do things.
Imagine if the Isokos gave Igbide people lands atbteh the boundaries of Isoko and Ndokwa land? The Igbides would have retained their Igbo language and with time would have pushed to be part of Ndokwa land.

Those Ututu lands are lost forever.

The "Ihe" in the map is "Ihechiowa". An independent town in Arochukwu LGA of Abia state.

Igboid:


Nah.
We should let them be.
The people are not Igbo speaking, we can't send them out of a land they now call ancestral lands.
Ututu ancestors messed up.
When you want to give visitors land, you give them lands in your centre where you surround them, and not at your boundaries where they share boundary with their brothers who they speak a language you don't understand.

Those lands are lost forever.

The "Ihe" in the map is "Ihechiowa". An independent town in Arochukwu LGA of Abia state.

Okay. I'll still keep an ear for what the Ututu people think about the situation.

Alabo7978:

Funny to you, you think I am purely ijo, but I am Nembe.
In ijo, we do not see ourselves as ijo and even most times we fight and quarell amongst ourselves.
Many Nembeians have some reasons to dislike the ijo, and ijo will have reason to dislike the Nembe man.
Go motor pack for bayelsa Dem dey fight, and we Nembeians mock their intonations because they pronounce jump as zump. While them they see us as proud and usually wealthy.
Same with Greece, all the city states like Athens, Sparta, Crete, Corinth ,aegena, Argos , Rhodes quarell within themselves and live by there city states but when Xerxes of Persia came, they knew they were together GREEKS at large.

Though we fight and argue amongst ourselves and call each other names but when there is a foreign invasion, like the Greeks we will stand and repel, then after we will continue with our malice.
You bkayy, Ekealterego SlayerForever Igboid biafrarep etc are all foreign Invaders.
I even carefully searched on baikie works, and he links Bonny to the other ijoh clans. Now I know y'all were just filtering things.
You see the numbering system?
We Nembeians count
Kio
Mai
Trai
Neene
Sono
Sondio
Sonomai
Etc

You see the resemblance with all other ijo counting?

Even the screenshot showed igbos were a secondary language.
Even this screenshot talked about the German doctor.
(Read carefully this time) I won't stress myself again to pick out points.
The igbos have been known to walk up and down and not staying in their place.
In ijo land I am a Nembe man, and if an ijoh man annoys me, I go burst him head, but when an ijo man is bullied by a foreign Invaders or when a foreign Invaders bullies any other clan, we all we assemble.
That is the beauty of we the ijo Ethnic nation!

Bro, quit lying, that excerpt is not from Baikie.. I have Baikie's book with me. They only quoted a portion of Baikie. That book is written by an Ijaw man. Why Una dey lie?

GreatBoss:



Go claim them physical not online.


Even Ndoki come with Ijaw Republic.
They are Ibani-Ijaw people.
We've headed to the request of their leaders. We've added their areas to the Ijaw Republic map.

You guys must also not forget that I'm from Bonny LGA and we are Ibani Ijaw and never Ibo.

Go and claim us physical.
Then u see world war 3. We sink all Igbos in d ocean.
After all una b stone.

Funny guy, you don't know how ridiculous you sound with all these your "go and claim them physical".

I can see you all are sounding jittery already which is understandable, but if you think you have what it takes to stop Igbos after we defeat you in the law court, then all I can say is good luck to your fantasies

SlayerForever:


Okay. I'll still keep an ear for what the Ututu people think about the situation.

The Ututus as you would expect are sad about the whole thing.
But there is nothing anyone can do about it now.

If anything, we took Arochukwu from these people too.
So it kind of balances itself out
There shouldn't be bad blood.

It is what it is.

Alabo7978:

Well, good of you to ask.
The bonnys migrated from kolokuma in search of their brethren who had left earlier.
This was the great dispersion by the children of ijo who were at the time finding new settlements when they became men.
Ask the Bonny man today where they come from, they will ALWAYS tell you kolokuma.
Now get out of here you fool.

Stop talking rubbish. The people who migrated from Kolokuma are recorded to have gone West, settling across the Western Niger Delta coast in today's Delta, Edo etc. All of them have one language which is Izon.

The Eastern migration was into today's Nembe, Kalabari then at a much different time, Okrika. The people on ground when the Izon arrived this areas is disputed. It may Igbos, it may be Ibibiod groups. Or they may have gotten there first. But because of contact with this several groups their language diverged from Izon and is now scarcely intelligible with Izon. Same with their culture. Nembe, Kalabari and Okrika have aspects of their cultures that are totally different from Izon.

As for the farthest point downstream, that area is documented to have been discovered by Okpala Ndoli and his group (in some accounts, while on a hunting expedition). This area was named Okoloma after their town name in Ndoki upstream. And then onwards Ndoki expanded and populated the island.


N:B I fear the impact and number of the slaves who remained on the island is exaggerated. If they were that populous the dialect on the island would be considerably different from Ndoki upstream. But as far as we know it is not.

Igboid:


Of course, Igbos are masters of adaptation and reproduction.
We copy and assimilate aspects of other people culture we find beneficial easily.
The Colonials recognized that in one of the extracts posted here.

Asimini proved himself a real Igbo man. Quickly jettisoning the Igbo Okpara system for the alien "Wari" system that had proven more efficient for survival in the riverine terrain.

Very impressive.

I can help you out here.
LOL

Ekealterego:


I can help you out here.
LOL

Thank you very much.

Igbo Amaka.

SlayerForever:


Stop talking rubbish. The people who migrated from Kolokuma are recorded to have gone West, settling across the Western Niger Delta coast in today's Delta, Edo etc. All of them have one language which is Izon.

The Eastern migration was into today's Nembe, Kalabari then at a much different time, Okrika. The people on ground when the Izon arrived this areas is disputed. It may Igbos, it may be Ibibiod groups. Or they may have gotten there first. But because of contact with this several groups their language diverged from Izon and is now scarcely intelligible with Izon. Same with their culture. Nembe, Kalabari and Okrika have aspects of their cultures that are totally different from Izon.

As for the farthest point downstream, that area is documented to have been discovered by Okpala Ndoli and his group (in some accounts, while on a hunting expedition). This area was named Okoloma after their town name in Ndoki upstream. And then onwards Ndoki expanded and populated the island.


N:B I fear the impact and number of the slaves who remained on the island is exaggerated. If they were that populous the dialect on the island would be considerably different from Ndoki upstream. But as far as we know it is not.

True.
Bonny and Opobo dialects remain unmistakably Ndoki.

Where one is Oli, and Woman is not Nwanyi but Nwenyere or something like that.
If the slaves who were mainly of Isu origin were the dominant Igbo population of Bonny, the Igbo dialect of Bonny and Opobo would have taken a closer resemblance to central Igbo dialects of the Isuama where one is Otu and Woman is Nwanyi.

I completely concur with you. The influence of Igbo slaves in Bonny is deliberately exaggerated to obscure the overwhelming Indigenous Ndoki Igbo presence on the island before the commencement of slave trade.

Igboid:


True.
Bonny and Opobo dialects remain unmistakably Ndoki.

Where one is Oli, and Woman is not Nwanyi but Nwenyere or something like that.
If the slaves who were mainly of Isu origin were the dominant Igbo population of Bonny, the Igbo dialect of Bonny and Opobo would have taken a closer resemblance to central Igbo dialects of the Isuama where one is Otu and Woman is Nwanyi.

I completely concur with you. The influence of Igbo slaves in Bonny is deliberately exaggerated to obscure the overwhelming Indigenous Ndoki Igbo presence on the island before the commencement of slave trade.

Ehen! Ahn ahn. Ö rozi ndi Igbo k'anyi bu. If they were that many, Bonny dialect would have become very mixed in content. But it is not. It is still very much Ndoki.

Thank you.

Alabo7978:

Funny to you, you think I am purely ijo, but I am Nembe.
In ijo, we do not see ourselves as ijo and even most times we fight and quarell amongst ourselves.
Many Nembeians have some reasons to dislike the ijo, and ijo will have reason to dislike the Nembe man.
Go motor pack for bayelsa Dem dey fight, and we Nembeians mock their intonations because they pronounce jump as zump. While them they see us as proud and usually wealthy.
Same with Greece, all the city states like Athens, Sparta, Crete, Corinth ,aegena, Argos , Rhodes quarell within themselves and live by there city states but when Xerxes of Persia came, they knew they were together GREEKS at large.

Though we fight and argue amongst ourselves and call each other names but when there is a foreign invasion, like the Greeks we will stand and repel, then after we will continue with our malice.
You bkayy, Ekealterego SlayerForever Igboid biafrarep etc are all foreign Invaders.
I even carefully searched on baikie works, and he links Bonny to the other ijoh clans. Now I know y'all were just filtering things.
You see the numbering system?
We Nembeians count
Kio
Mai
Trai
Neene
Sono
Sondio
Sonomai
Etc

You see the resemblance with all other ijo counting?

Even the screenshot showed igbos were a secondary language.
Even this screenshot talked about the German doctor.
(Read carefully this time) I won't stress myself again to pick out points.
The igbos have been known to walk up and down and not staying in their place.
In ijo land I am a Nembe man, and if an ijoh man annoys me, I go burst him head, but when an ijo man is bullied by a foreign Invaders or when a foreign Invaders bullies any other clan, we all we assemble.
That is the beauty of we the ijo Ethnic nation!

I need to get a copy of this book. e finish work.

Igboid:


The Ututus as you would expect are sad about the whole thing.
But there is nothing anyone can do about it now.

If anything, we took Arochukwu from these people too.
So it kind of balances itself out
There shouldn't be bad blood.

It is what it is.

I thought Ututu is in Arochukwu LGA. is there another Ututu?

Not to derail or anything, you could still see Igbo communities in the heart of Cross Rivers. Not even at the border o with Aro r at the intersection of Akwa-Ibom.

From the naming style, it is probably an offshoot of Arochukwu or Abam or Ohafia people but mostly the first two. Most of their settlements come as Nde/Ndi/Ndu/Ndo

See another one on the border with Cameroon. Its called Etiti Ulo? LOL

I wonder what these people speak today. If they do not speak Igbo then of course they are lost. LOL
CC Bkayy, Slayerforever, Igboid, Fejoku
The names< Igbofia, Nde Aliche, Nde Akwara, IfuNkpa (Nkpas or Mkpas are in Bende), Akamkpa, Ndiro, Orimini-Mba
Topic for another thread.

Igboid:


If only you can just show where it was written that Bonny people were Ijaws there, all will be fine.

Let me reply you one last time, and not the other clowns.

Like I said, In ijoh, the clans NEVER EVER CALL THEMSELVES IJOH because of the strong sense of Independence.
When ijo brags to us that we descended from them, we drag them via other things.
I have mentioned that to you using Greece as an example but you still dey drag us round like nursery 2 pikin.
Within us, we answer our closest ancestors call. Even as a Nembeian(ogbolomabiri, bassambiri, obioku etc) we rival ourselves. Ogbolomabiri always rub on the face of bassambiri that they descended from them, and bassambiri will blast back That they are autonomous, bassambiri will do same to Obioku, obioku will blast back being autonomous, same goes all round) there are always rivalry even in one house.
Even now now now, those kingdoms in Nembe can band under Nembe in a clan clash and fight with the ijohs.
But IN GENERAL, WE ENTER ONE UMBRELLA.
IN GENERAL, WE ARE ALL IJAWS.
ask me again, ode.