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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:52pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:


My first Choice is Samson Siasia, but he's still serving Ban. He's an attack-minded Coach that plays good football.
Siasia is really good and very committed despite all the sabotage from the NFF and sports ministry. However if only Siasia no dey try use national team to sell players, his success would have been a lot more honestly. For example I question him for starting the late Isaac Promise at the final of the Beijing Olympics. Also because we didn't have a good back up for Azubuike at the Rio Olympics we suffered against Germany in the semis and lost.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:55pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


Oh I understand.

I know you selected Amunike already.

But Nigeria's Eddie Newton has expressed his interest in the Super Eagles job. PRK.

He has achieved milestones at every club he's coached.

In his first managerial season, he finished 3rd in League One behind Leicester, MK Don's second highest finish in their history.

In his second job, guided West Brom back to the EPL.

At Chelsea, he won them the Champions League and FA Cup in one season.

Just last year, he won Trabzonspor their first trophy in 10 years. He was sacked because of FFP and Trabzonspor couldn't afford new signings.

He is currently director at 2020 Champions, Basaksehir.

What do you think?
I like his resume but can he withstand the well cooked dung that NFF will serve him as 3 square meals? He's an oyinbo in black skin but trust our admin to show him the Nigerian way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 6:12pm On Dec 01, 2021
BascoVanVeli:
I did a top 5 goals on Okocha's Super Eagles career for those who might want to check it out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8zc5WY9h9Q
Fantastic compilation, thanks man. I think his first goal for the Eagles enroute the 94 world cup was also extra special.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:18pm On Dec 01, 2021
TFLASHOGEE:
grin grin grin I laugh in Latin make we kuku bring back Sunday mba he his our hero

If only they will send back Ighalo, Inviting Moses back is a good idea but Ighalo’s invitation makes it look ridiculous
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 6:22pm On Dec 01, 2021
Subzero047:


If only they will send back Ighalo, Inviting Moses back is a good idea but Ighalo’s invitation makes it look ridiculous
grin grin grin since their only reason for inviting ighalo his experience then mba should be brought back at least he has the experience of scoring the winning goal of giving us an afcon title wink make we kuku jam pack the national team infact agbim should be brought back he has more experience than maduka he his an afcon winner awon wareeey people grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:23pm On Dec 01, 2021
AndSunGorilla:

Siasia is really good and very committed despite all the sabotage from the NFF and sports ministry. However if only Siasia no dey try use national team to sell players, his success would have been a lot more honestly. For example I question him for starting the late Isaac Promise at the final of the Beijing Olympics. Also because we didn't have a good back up for Azubuike at the Rio Olympics we suffered against Germany in the semis and lost.

You can't blame him for RIO Squad Selection. Most of the Clubs didn't release his first targets. Remember Mikel forced it to be at the Tourney and paid for it darely when he returned back to Chelsea.

Siasia is tactically sound and better than rest local Coaches. You will always love how he sets up his Team tactically and he does dominate possession with direct, pacy football.

He did well at Beijing, lost to star studded Argentina Team by a lone Goal. Same Argentina Team destroyed Ronaldinho led Brazilian Team by 3 unreplied Goals.

He did well at Rio also. Amuzie wasn't his first choice as Lb, same goes to Sadiq and some Members of the Squad.

SiaOne na baba!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:30pm On Dec 01, 2021

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:30pm On Dec 01, 2021
TFLASHOGEE:
grin grin grin since their only reason for inviting ighalo his experience then mba should be brought back at least he has the experience of scoring the winning goal of giving us an afcon title wink make we kuku jam pack the national team infact agbim should be brought back he has more experience than maduka he his an afcon winner awon wareeey people grin grin grin

Is Peter Rufai still alive grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:32pm On Dec 01, 2021
grin

SiaOne did it better though!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od34R5_YAcQ

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 6:32pm On Dec 01, 2021
Rohr List Watford Star Dennis, Feyenoord Hitman Dessers, Five New Players In Provisional AFCON Squad
Owngoalnigeria Dec 1, 2021 12:31 PM

As many as five new players have been handed a chance to be part of the Super Eagles squad for the 2021 Africa Cup Of Nations by embattled coach of the team Gernot Rohr, Owngoalnigeria.com exclusively gathered.

Rohr whose future as coach of team is still uncertain have already submitted a list of 40 players to the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) which has been submitted to CAF. The list is expected to be prune to 28 in three weeks time, a week before the start of the tournament which was postponed to this year due to the coronavirus pandemic.



We gathered the list has five players who are yet to make their debut for the senior national team in Nigeria namely Ademola Lookman of Leicester City, Ovie Ejaria of Reading, Sadiq Umar of Almeria, goalkepper Adebayo Adeleye of Israel side Hapoel Jerusalem and Uche Destiny Obiogumu of the youth team of German side Hoffenheim.

Furthermore the duo of Cyriel Dessers of Feyenoord and Emmanuel Dennis of Watford were both rewarded for their fine form this season with a spot in the list. While there is also a return for Victor Moses.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 6:42pm On Dec 01, 2021
Good[quote author=solonnachi post=108123990]Rohr List Watford Star Dennis, Feyenoord Hitman Dessers, Five New Players In Provisional AFCON Squad
Owngoalnigeria Dec 1, 2021 12:31 PM

As many as five new players have been handed a chance to be part of the Super Eagles squad for the 2021 Africa Cup Of Nations by embattled coach of the team Gernot Rohr, Owngoalnigeria.com exclusively gathered.

Rohr whose future as coach of team is still uncertain have already submitted a list of 40 players to the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) which has been submitted to CAF. The list is expected to be prune to 28 in three weeks time, a week before the start of the tournament which was postponed to this year due to the coronavirus pandemic.



We gathered the list has five players who are yet to make their debut for the senior national team in Nigeria namely Ademola Lookman of Leicester City, Ovie Ejaria of Reading, Sadiq Umar of Almeria, goalkepper Adebayo Adeleye of Israel side Hapoel Jerusalem and Uche Destiny Obiogumu of the youth team of German side Hoffenheim.

Furthermore the duo of Cyriel Dessers of Feyenoord and Emmanuel Dennis of Watford were both rewarded for their fine form this season with a spot in the list. While there is also a return for Victor Moses.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:45pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:


You can't blame him for RIO Squad Selection. Most of the Clubs didn't release his first targets. Remember Mikel forced it to be at the Tourney and paid for it darely when he returned back to Chelsea.

Siasia is tactically sound and better than rest local Coaches. You will always love how he sets up his Team tactically and he does dominate possession with direct, pacy football.

He did well at Beijing, lost to star studded Argentina Team by a lone Goal. Same Argentina Team destroyed Ronaldinho led Brazilian Team by 3 unreplied Goals.

He did well at Rio also. Amuzie wasn't his first choice as Lb, same goes to Sadiq and some Members of the Squad.

SiaOne na baba!
siasia's team set up...yes. Tactically sound...No.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 6:49pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:


My first Choice is Samson Siasia, but he's still serving Ban. He's an attack-minded Coach that plays good football.


I tell you. If NFF is serious, they can try a plea on his case. I don't know how possible is that. I just feel they've got such power IMO.


One thing is certain though, Discipline will be restored to the camp. So dem party riders, whether true or false, will have to align. Next is the business of exploiting opponents' weaknesses, an offshoot of studying them well individually. The tactics is the overall capping.


If only though.


Only i dunno who stubborn pass between him and Amodu.



But sincerely, asides cash wasting, is the time actually ripe for indigenous coaches? Just asking?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:54pm On Dec 01, 2021
Truidstar:
siasia's team set up...yes. Tactically sound...No.

Why No?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:54pm On Dec 01, 2021
daveP:



I tell you. If NFF is serious, they can try a plea on his case. I don't know how possible is that. I just feel they've got such power IMO.


One thing is certain though, Discipline will be restored to the camp. So dem party riders, whether true or false, will have to align. Next is the business of exploiting opponents' weaknesses, an offshoot of studying them well individually. The tactics is the overall capping.


If only though.


Only i dunno who stubborn pass between him and Amodu.



But sincerely, asides cash wasting, is the time actually ripe for indigenous coaches? Just asking?

We need to give a local Coach chance to manage the Team again. Jo is a big no for me. A Coach from eastern Europe also is a waste of time and resources.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Donmobi(m): 6:58pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:

Chelsea is a short-term club, nothing to do with Mourinho. Just last season, they sold Tomori and Zouma, to buy Kounde for a more expensive fee.
If Chalobah wasn't a goal-scoring defender, Chelsea would never have given him a chance no matter how good he was.

Do you realise how many stars of today Mourinho has molded from scratch? For Afena-Gyan's debut goal, Mourinho snubbed more established stars like Zaniolo, Perez and Mayoral because he trusted in youth.

The Pogba you're talking about has fallen out with every United coach. Solksjaer couldn't trust him weeks before his sack. Carrick can't even trust him as interim.
True
My man Pedro has suffered in the hands of the one they call Mourinho
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:00pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:


Why No?
He is sentimental is his choice of players and at times is too cautious when making substitutions. His teams are defensively very weak..but with a brutal attacking and counter attacking unit. He left a hot Iheanacho and Iwobi on the bench in his last match he handled and relied on an Etebo who was not quite up to scratch that day.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:05pm On Dec 01, 2021
Oasis001:


Why No?

Forget siasia..even if he has completed his ban,he won't get d job..I doubt will want to risk died already dent brand with siasia wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:16pm On Dec 01, 2021
It's almost the end of the week... Rohr is still at the wheels grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:23pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


Oh I understand.

I know you selected Amunike already.

But Nigeria's Eddie Newton has expressed his interest in the Super Eagles job. PRK.

He has achieved milestones at every club he's coached.

In his first managerial season, he finished 3rd in League One behind Leicester, MK Don's second highest finish in their history.

In his second job, guided West Brom back to the EPL.

At Chelsea, he won them the Champions League and FA Cup in one season.

Just last year, he won Trabzonspor their first trophy in 10 years. He was sacked because of FFP and Trabzonspor couldn't afford new signings.

He is currently director at 2020 Champions, Basaksehir.

What do you think?


I like him but don't know much about him to run a ruling. He is a good choice based on records he looks a good choice.

But good records.

However, I am still a grassroots guy. I don't know if he can fit in that side of things.

We see how it goes.

I don't know if Amunike has shown interest I am just pointing my choice and why.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:24pm On Dec 01, 2021
Danielnino00:
It's almost the end of the week...
Rohr is still at the wheels grin

I don't think he was ever going. Pinnick put that clause to secure their money no matter how things went.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:32pm On Dec 01, 2021
Ekong and Dennis starts against Chelsea

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 7:35pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


I like him but don't know much about him to run a ruling. He is a good choice based on records he looks a good choice.

But good records.

However, I am still a grassroots guy. I don't know if he can fit in that side of things.

We see how it goes.

I don't know if Amunike has shown interest I am just pointing my choice and why.

Good this is what I was expecting.

First of all, I want to apologise to readers of this thread for misleading. Eddie Newton has never expressed interest in the Nigerian job, I just used him for a social experiment.

Although I tagged the post, PRK, the short form of prank, I'm very sorry and deserve any insult you send my way.


Now back to Joe.

I did this social experiment, to show you how deeply entrenched you are in racism even to the point you might not be aware of.

What all blacks in the western world are fighting against is what you're wholeheartedly practicing.

Examine yourself thoroughly, brother.

Once again, I apologize.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:56pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


Good this is what I was expecting.

First of all, I want to apologise to readers of this thread for misleading. Eddie Newton has never expressed interest in the Nigerian job, I just used him for a social experiment.

Although I tagged the post, PRK, the short form of prank, I'm very sorry and deserve any insult you send my way.


Now back to Joe.

I did this social experiment, to show you how deeply entrenched you are in racism even to the point you might not be aware of.

What all blacks in the western world are fighting against is what you're wholeheartedly practicing.

Examine yourself thoroughly, brother.

Once again, I apologize.


Sorry to disappoint you. I am not and will never be a racist. My best coach to have ever coached Nigeria is Westerhoff. He is white but I can not place a coach over him yet.

Westerhoff did not join us with a decorated CV. What Westerhoff showed us was intense belief in our potential and was fully a grassroots guy.

He was white.

Over the years we have hardly had a coach that came from outside that showed the same belief and passion for the grassroots.

I will not want a coach based on decorated CV. I want a coach with a belief in us and passion for Grassroots football. If you can give me a foreign coach that will offer that, I will support him passionately.

Until then, only indigenous coaches can guarantee it.

How you find that racism is baffling.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:00pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


Good this is what I was expecting.

First of all, I want to apologise to readers of this thread for misleading. Eddie Newton has never expressed interest in the Nigerian job, I just used him for a social experiment.

Although I tagged the post, PRK, the short form of prank, I'm very sorry and deserve any insult you send my way.


Now back to Joe.

I did this social experiment, to show you how deeply entrenched you are in racism even to the point you might not be aware of.

What all blacks in the western world are fighting against is what you're wholeheartedly practicing.

Examine yourself thoroughly, brother.

Once again, I apologize.

So don't tell me about the coach's titles. Tell me about if he checks the boxes.


Can he operate in our grassroots system?

Is he going to play the modern game pattern?


These are what I am interested in. As I said, most foreign coaches that can coach the modern system well will hardly come to coach us.

Our best choices to check these boxes lie in the indigenous coaches.

How is this racism?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:13pm On Dec 01, 2021
Why is Amunike my favorite choice?

He was one of the gems discovered by my favorite Coach of the Super Eagles, Westerhoff. So understands the system that worked for us to fly then.

He worked in Nigerian grassroots football and unearth some quality Gems. He did it before, he can do it again.

He played under the modern possessive pattern, working with Van Gaal. So he has experience playing the system.

He also trained in the La Masia system which is a system I believe will suit us.

So how listing all these equates to racism shocks me.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:19pm On Dec 01, 2021
Bassey and Aribo start for Rangers, Balogun still injured
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:20pm On Dec 01, 2021
Expecting a performance from this man

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:25pm On Dec 01, 2021
Musa scored today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 8:36pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheGoodJoe:


So don't tell me about the coach's titles. Tell me about of he checks the boxes.


Can he operate in our grassroots system?

Is he going to play the modern game pattern?


These are what I am interested in. As I said, most foreign coaches that can coach the modern system well will hardly come to coach us.

Our best choices to check these boxes lie in the indigenous coaches.

How is this racism?

Look man, first of all I appreciate your professionalism. You've gone this far without using any slur or breaking any gentleman code, I applaud that.

But you see, if you find problem with yourself you need to address it.

You stated authoritatively:

"With all his CV and profile, I will take Siasia over a white man without thinking. I will take others over him. A white man will never give us the kind of Work..."

Then I told you that the use of the term 'white man' is racist, because you're discriminating based on skin colour regardless of qualification.

But then you corrected me that you meant foreigners in general not white:

"I said we should cut the white men or... foreigners because it cost more, we hardly get thorough jobs from them, and with little to show for it."

But then I showed you Eddie Newton, a foreigner who is not white, and you immediately fell in love with me. This is a man who doesn't identify as African except for his Nigerian ancestry and skin colour. He is no different from Vierra or Rashford or Ashley Cole.

You did not contest his CV nor pay as you did the whites earlier on.

This shows your bias not towards foreigners but towards whites. That my good man, is racism.

Saying: no matter the qualification I will choose a black manager over a white manager,
is different from saying
I prefer an indigenous manager over a foreign manager.

This means if a white man who was born, raised and identifies as a Nigerian comes for the Super Eagles job, you will not endorse because of his skin colour.

That's racism, man. If you don't want foreigners it's understandable, I also do not, but saying you don't want whites is a capital crime.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:59pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


Look man, first of all I appreciate your professionalism. You've gone this far without using any slur or breaking any gentleman code, I applaud that.

But you see, if you find problem with yourself you need to address it.

You stated authoritatively:

"With all his CV and profile, I will take Siasia over a white man without thinking. I will take others over him. A white man will never give us the kind of Work..."

Then I told you that the use of the term 'white man' is racist, because you're discriminating based on skin colour regardless of qualification.

But then you corrected me that you meant foreigners in general not white:

"I said we should cut the white men or... foreigners because it cost more, we hardly get thorough jobs from them, and with little to show for it."

But then I showed you Eddie Newton, a foreigner who is not white, and you immediately fell in love with me. This is a man who doesn't identify as African except for his Nigerian ancestry and skin colour. He is no different from Vierra or Rashford or Ashley Cole.

You did not contest his CV nor pay as you did the whites earlier on.

This shows your bias not towards foreigners but towards whites. That my good man, is racism.

Saying: no matter the qualification I will choose a black manager over a white manager,
is different from saying
I prefer an indigenous manager over a foreign manager.

This means if a white man who was born, raised and identifies as a Nigerian comes for the Super Eagles job, you will not endorse because of his skin colour.

That's racism, man. If you don't want foreigners it's understandable, I also do not, but saying you don't want whites is a capital crime.
Well, i like it when two brilliant minds are arguing cos it is an avenue to learn and grab something. .

But, I'll like to point out that your racism accusations are a bit assumptive. For almost a month now,Thegoodjoe has been hammering it here that Amunike is the best for the job. He even went as far as comparing him with Pep. The fact that he used the word 'white' doesn't necessarily mean he is racist. You even pointed out he corrected himself by using the word 'foreigner' .
I don't really see any iota racism in what he said.

And as for Newton, he used the word, 'record' and admitted he knew not much about him. Infant just read his post again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:00pm On Dec 01, 2021
TheLoneCitizen:


Look man, first of all I appreciate your professionalism. You've gone this far without using any slur or breaking any gentleman code, I applaud that.

But you see, if you find problem with yourself you need to address it.

You stated authoritatively:

"With all his CV and profile, I will take Siasia over a white man without thinking. I will take others over him. A white man will never give us the kind of Work..."

Then I told you that the use of the term 'white man' is racist, because you're discriminating based on skin colour regardless of qualification.

But then you corrected me that you meant foreigners in general not white:

"I said we should cut the white men or... foreigners because it cost more, we hardly get thorough jobs from them, and with little to show for it."

But then I showed you Eddie Newton, a foreigner who is not white, and you immediately fell in love with me. This is a man who doesn't identify as African except for his Nigerian ancestry and skin colour. He is no different from Vierra or Rashford or Ashley Cole.

You did not contest his CV nor pay as you did the whites earlier on.

This shows your bias not towards foreigners but towards whites. That my good man, is racism.

Saying: no matter the qualification I will choose a black manager over a white manager,
is different from saying
I prefer an indigenous manager over a foreign manager.

This means if a white man who was born, raised and identifies as a Nigerian comes for the Super Eagles job, you will not endorse because of his skin colour.

That's racism, man. If you don't want foreigners it's understandable, I also do not, but saying you don't want whites is a capital crime.

You are totally missing it. I have said before that we can't get quality coaches (mostly who play the modern game) to want us. I was impressed that such a coach will want to coach us.

However, despite his impressive CV, I don't know his style of play. Secondly, I don't know if he will want to work with our grassroots sector.

Due to that, I will still take Amunike and other indigenous coaches.

I can't hate white Coaches when Westerhoff and Bonfere are white. They are the first Super Eagles coaches I knew. So I had a white coach orientation.

My problem still lies on the grassroots. If it was a white guy, I would still make the same statement.

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