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Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by tctrills: 9:34am On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:Just watch your language. So you would go to Israel and announce that all Jews that don't acknowledge Jesus are useless? We are still correcting you from one and you are commiting another. 1 Like |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by tctrills: 9:41am On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:On this thread we are talking about how to identify a group that follows Christ. Members of such group would guard their words. James 1:26; "If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless." Proverbs 12:18 - "There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing." Proverbs 18:21 "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruits." Ephesians 4:29; "Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear." Matthew 15:18; "But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person." |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:47am On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills: Ògbéni you love to deceive yourself a lot and i really really feel for you because you're struggling really hard to find fault with the truth but you can never find any. The person i replied said 'someone should be slapped for airing his beliefs in the public' you couldn't find anything wrong with that. But when i told him that the USELESS Jews whose mindset he's carrying have infected him with their terrorist mindset you're looking for every means to find fault with my statement. Well for your information, Jesus was given a dirty slap for speaking about his beliefs just as your friend suggested, and the one who slapped God's only begotten Son was a Jew: After he said these things, one of the officers who was standing by gave Jesus a slap in the face and said: “Is that the way you answer the chief priest?” Jesus answered him: “If I said something wrong, bear witness about the wrong; but if what I said was right, why do you hit me?” John 18:22-23 Then the high priest ripped his outer garments, saying: “He has blasphemed! What further need do we have of witnesses? See! Now you have heard the blasphemy. What is your opinion?” They answered: “He deserves to die.” Then they spat in his face and hit him with their fists. Others slapped him on the face, saying: “Prophesy to us, you Christ. Who struck you? Matthew 26:65-68 So my friend, i know how bitter you are right now and i don't like tormenting anyone with the truth from God's word but know that those people who slapped Jesus simply because of his beliefs and teaching your friend to do the same for people simply because of their beliefs are USELESS Jews! May you have PEACE! |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:50am On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills: My friend, Jews that failed to acknowledge Jesus despite all his credentials are USELESS that's what Jesus taught! Matthew 22:2-13 |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58am On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills: You want to argue about the word "USELESS" simply because you're tormented by the things happening now as all your friends ran away instead of presenting to you the group that's practicing what Jesus taught. Now someone came telling you that Jesus never existed and you're now dragging issues over my response to such a person. Doesn't that shows you're not even interested in knowing the truth about Jesus and his group? Well our language is straightforward we call a spade a spade {Matthew 23:17 compare to Galatians 3:1} but we will never raise weapons against anyone nor assault anyone physically for his beliefs or unbelief. May you have PEACE! |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by tctrills: 10:02am On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:I thought I could help you but I cant, you never learn 1 Like |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:49am On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills:Help! Please stop that crap! You don't want the truth so there's no need tormenting yourself by asking me questions, we are Jehovah's Witnesses, we're not misinformed Churchgoers that you stylishly set standards for by telling them what to say and what not to say. I told you "no weapon formed against our faith can succeed, any tongue that rises against us will be silenced, that's the heritage of the servants of our God, and regarding our righteousness (that you're trying to shapen) don't bother yourself because it's from our God" Isaiah 54:17 May you have PEACE! |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by tctrills: 10:51am On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse:I still want to believe that your actions are not a reflection of your faith but I am not sure anymore. You keep bringing your church to defend your actions |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:10am On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills: You're behaving like a clown walahi talahi! You're chatting with someone on a faceless forum about faith, he told you what his Master, Lord and King said about a faithless race, you want to accuse him of verbal assault, he quoted what the founder of Christianity said, you ignored and want to impose your own opinion. How many of your friends remains with you now? Let them come out and prove before everyone that the Jews who treated Jesus and his followers badly are not useless from the standpoint of the God of Israel! My friend i know you are bitter now, but when you've eaten and drank your choicest drink just sit down and meditate on everything we discussed and reread it all including the quoted and cited verses. Stop trying to set standards when you don't even know anything about Christianity, this has nothing to do with what you or anyone think is right or wrong, it's what God's ancient servants believe so instead of worrying yourself about what you think is right why not concentrate on what God says is right? |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:20pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
This is what people like you want Christianity to be, where some nonentities will just wake up and start telling you what to do and what not to do because you are a Christian. But real Christianity is about accurate knowledge of truth which is not according to human perspective of what holiness should be! Voice22: |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by sonmvayina(m): 3:17pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Did a woman that was betrothed to a man suddenly become pregnant by a spirit 2000+ years ago? Do you believe this to be true? Or it's all about faith? |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by Kobojunkie: 3:34pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills:When I was an unbeliever, I read the Bible like anyone else would to learn of Jesus Christ. And it wasn't until I decided to actually believe what Jesus Christ said as written in the bible- I was one of those who came to believe in Jesus Christ because of the teaching of His followers. Let me put it another way. My belief was not in the apostles themselves but the teachings and commandments they said were of Jesus Christ which I then verified through trust and obedience in Jesus Christ. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:14pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Go and slap anyone around you that believes it just as those USELESS Jews slapped Jesus the promised Messiah (saviour) {Mark 14:65; John 18:22} that's what the scriptures prophesied about him before his birth. So if you doubt the Christian Greek Scriptures (New Testament) i hope you can go and tear the part in the Hebrew Scriptures {Old Testament) that prophesied all these! Isaiah 53:3; Micah 5:1 |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by Kobojunkie: 4:26pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills:1. When I was an unbeliever, I listed to and eventually what was told me of Jesus Christ. Then when I became a believer, Jesus Christ Himself became my Teacher, revealing all Truth to me just as He said He would. 2. Jesus Christ didn't need to use the word "unbelievers" before one would know that those who formally didn't believe but would come to believe are indeed the unbelievers, those who are in the world and not of Him - John 17 vs 20 - 22 3. When you are Baptized, no longer are you an unbeliever as you enter into the Kingdom of God where the rule, as written in Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10, that Jesus Christ is the one and only Teacher over all those who belong to Him aka are saved. 4. Jesus Christ fed His disciples breakfast of bread and fish right before that conversation with Peter on that morn - John 21 vs 1 - 14. He had taught several times of the work of the servant being to make sure the other servants are given their food on time - Luke 12 vs 41 - 48 & Matthew 24 vs 45 - 51 Peter was a follower and a sheep as well, and he along with every other follower was and is tasked with doing the same works of righteousness- the 6 keys of Heaven - as outlined in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 40. . As for type of food to give, Jesus Christ fed His followers with bread and bread but He didn't say it only had to be bread and fish. As God made clear in Isaiah 58 vs 6 - 13 , we are to share our food with those who are hungry. So anything you know is good and acceptable to eat. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by Nobody: 4:36pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Can’t believe people still believe this nonsense 1 Like |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:57pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
NJyoruba12: Well there is a big and happy global family of peace loving worshipers known as Jehovah's Witnesses, they strongly believe this and they are proud to take it to everyone in their neighbourhood. So when they come to your home please try to reason with them perhaps you can convince them that it's all nonsense. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by sonmvayina(m): 5:36pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: This is not what I asked you? If you hear it happened in kaduna last Months, will you believe it? |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:51pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina: What concerns me with your questions? You advised someone to SLAP people for airing their beliefs, that's what matters to me. That's irrational and intolerant, you also believe in reincarnation nobody slaps you for believing it so why slapping others for what they believe? |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by sonmvayina(m): 5:56pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Reincarnation is what nature is all about. But a virgin given birth ...nah is just plan stupidity.. You know it defiles the laws of God and nature... Just for you to tell the truth and say " I know it is Impossible, but I believe based on faith" I will let it go... Not this childish response from you. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:58pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:You believe this, right? Can you tell me where you were and exactly what you were doing before you died and reincarnated? |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by sonmvayina(m): 6:15pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I was an igbo prince. I took part in a war with the neighboring community and died from a snake bite on our way back.. If your third eye was open you would remember yours. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Ofcourse you had to be a prince... would you have been a slave or a pauper instead? ROFLMAO 1 Like |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
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Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by tctrills: 7:04pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: 1. Your point is clear.. you only believed the words of Christ's apostles when you were not a Christian. You stop believing when you become a Christian. 2. You believe the work Jesus gave Peter was to provide physical food for his followers. If that is so, it means the only purpose of the church was to have breakfast according to you. So today is the church of Christ still centered around someone providing food for the believers? I guess when Jesus spoke about finding pasture for his seep in John 10, he wasn't talking about rice and beans. 3a. You claim it was peter alongside other followers that were tasked with the same work. Wrong, I was only Peter directed to feed the sheep. 3b. It was only very few men that were empowered by Christ to preach. first the 12 and then the 70 Luke 10 10 After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come. So clearly you need to be appointed first. Just because you follow Christ doesn't mean you are appointed. Finally, no single verse in the bible teaches that Jesus is the only teacher. The bible says he is the only master but you changed it to mean the only teacher. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by tctrills: 7:09pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:You talk from both sides of your mouth. you were of those who came to Jesus because of the words of his followers yet you stopped believing their words once you became a Christian. You also claim that Jesus is the only teacher, how come you needed the words of his followers. He obviously was not your only teacher. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by Kobojunkie: 7:48pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills:1. Where the words I believed in the words of His apostles, or His Words? 2. When Jesus Christ spoke of His flock in John 10, He indeed meant the feeding and caring of His flock. Read what God also said of His flock in Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16. The Church that belongs to Jesus Christ is comprised of His followers who He manages and monitors Himself, living according the Will of God(submit to Obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ) , and doing works of Righteousness as lead by the Spirit of God. Yes, they all feed and care for the others, just as Jesus Christ instructed. 3a. Peter was not the only one given instructions to feed and care for the others by Jesus Christ since this same teaching was taught by Jesus Christ on more than one occasion to His followers. 3b. As I said before, Jesus Christ started with 12 who He then sent out to preach the Gospel to the unbelievers in the land, this as they became ready to go out . Eventually, Jesus Christ sent out 72 that were ready enough to go preach the Gospel to the unbelievers. The same commandment applies to all those who are ready to go out, and this from Him. As you can see, unlike what is practiced in your churches today, you don't just go out to preach to unbelievers because you believe. The Teacher, Jesus Christ is instead meant to send us out to doing this when He deems us ready to go out. As for God and Jesus Christ being the only Teacher to those in His New Covenant, it is made very clear in the New Covenant - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 10, the boldest declaration of all. rab·bi |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by sonmvayina(m): 7:52pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: We are all Prince, kings and queens in our culture... I guess you must have been a lunatic...no insult intended. Hence the carry over... |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by Kobojunkie: 7:55pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
tctrills:Please try to pay attention to what is being said.... 1. Just as Jesus Christ said in His prayer, I came to believe in Jesus Christ because of Words of Him I heard from His apostles. I didn't believe in His apostles but in Him, Jesus Christ. 2. I was an unbeliever and His followers were sent to teach unbelievers of God's Truth, the New Covenant Law of the Kingdom of God. What you call the Gospel is God's Law embodied in the person of Jesus Christ, God's Truth. It wasn't until I chose to believe in Jesus Christ aka became a part of His Kingdom that He became my only Teacher. I have repeated this same information at least 5 times at this point. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by Kobojunkie: 7:56pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Look at this riffraff! ROFLMAO |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
sonmvayina:Other races are what in their former life? sonmvayina:Now it's clear what other tribes are in their former lives! |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by sonmvayina(m): 8:14pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol .life has no beginning and no end. It's a circle..we go and come. Till we get it right and exit the matrix.. We are all God's breath experiencing life as ourselves. The purpose is to achieve unity and become one indivisible entity. Forget the bull crap the authors of the Jesus story put in his mouth. Those are pagan ideas that are contrary to the will of our creator. It is better you be alone and keep his commandments than be in a group that worships an idol because they entice you with a promise of peace...it's all an illusion..wake up from it. |
Re: Which Of The Churches Today Is Following Jesus Christ's Teachings? by tctrills: 8:38pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I think you are confusing issues. Every Christian believes in Christ not his Apostles. And your ideas are not based in scripture. I understand that you are entitled to your opinion. No where in the scriptures were you told to believe the apostles until you become a Christian then you stop believing. To me, it's a strange and funny teaching. |
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