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| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 9:27am On Nov 22, 2021 |
WWE SURVIVOR SERIES 2021 REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS Let’s sort out who survives, who doesn't, and whether “brand supremacy” is a thing worth fighting for anymore. Anything You Can Do... Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair fought. Sure, wrestling moves were involved, but this was, to quote a wrestling great, a pier 6 brawl. Neither woman wanted to simply beat their opponent. After all, one does not simply walk into Brooklyn with that much hate in their heart and goes for a simple 1-2-3. Becky and Charlotte traded slaps, moves, and insults. Charlotte screaming “tap b*tch!” was the line of the match for me. When wrestling sports entertainment matches feel real, they hit a sweet spot. Every move was designed to get into the heads of the opponent. Why else would Becky put Charlotte in a semi-Figure Four? Why in the world would Charlotte put Becky in a Disarm-Her? Adding insult to injury is always the name of the game when said game is against someone you don’t like. Charlotte and Becky, either in real life or kayfabe or both, really don’t like each other and their fight evolved into a battle of “anything you can do, I can do better.” In the end, Becky one upped Charlotte and beat her at her own game: cheating. It’s a great way to remind everyone both women are still heels, despite the nature of this particular feud and the reaction of the crowd. Charlotte might be stronger than Becky, but she’s not smarter. And if there’s one thing defining this iteration of Big Time Becks, it’s her intelligence. For Charlotte, being the best means overpowering your opponent. For Becky? It means catching them off guard in that one split second and asserting your brain power over theirs. On this night, Becky was the smarter woman of the two because she didn’t get caught with her hand in the cookie jar. Is it a “satisfying” ending in the way we’re accustomed to? Nope. But it’s the right ending for the story, the competitors involved, and the smartest way to harken back to who these women are at their core. Master and Ruler of the Universe As always in wrestling, simple storytelling is the best storytelling. Roman Reigns is the mafia boss WWE Universal Champion who disrespected Big E’s brothers. Big E is the WWE Champion out to avenge his family. Winning is cool, but he wanted payback and to prove Roman isn’t as untouchable as he believes. With the added wrinkle that Brock Lesnar’s massive shadow might loom over Roman’s reign once more, one can see how the Tribal Chief might overlook his very worthy opponent. And for a minute, it definitely looked that way. E survived an onslaught from Reigns. He took the champ’s best moves and kept coming back. Not even three Superman punches in succession finished the job, to the surprise of Reigns and the audience. E was possessed with defending the honor of his New Day brethren and he came really close to doing so. Earlier in the match, however, E missed a signature spot and injured his knee on the ring apron. As the match went on and E found his momentum, I wondered if that knee might play a part in the ending, because it was kinda forgotten about. Then it happened. For a split second, E let up in his assault on the Tribal Chief to stop the ref’s 10 count. Doesn’t it suck when technicalities slow down someone’s momentum? That was just enough time for Roman to regain his composure, reverse an Irish whip into the steel steps—the same switcheroo E pulled on him earlier in a very similar spot—and banged his knee again. The WWE champ tried to get back to his feet but he needed the barricade for support. Like any good shark worth their weight, Roman smelled blood in the territorial waters near his island of relevancy. E almost put it away with another Big Ending, but Roman wiggled out of E’s clutches, took a shot to the back of E’s injured knee, hit a spear, and sent the fans home crying in their Booty-O’s. There are two matches that felt important with something truly meaningful hanging in the balance. And they both bookended Survivor Series. When/if Roman and E tango again, it should be very cool because this showed there’s a lot of story to tell with these two and they can make magic together. The Rest RKO Fair Catch Randy Orton celebrated his own history at Survivor Series. He is now the WWE wrestler with the most PPV matches in the history of the company. That’s incredible when you think about the names who walked through those Stamford doors. RK-Bro outlasted Jimmy x Jey Uso because they forgot about Orton. Jimmy went for a splash on the wrong opponent and ate an RKO as he crashed to the ground. An okay tag match with appropriate finish for a man celebrating, It also ensured Raw won the night regardless of what happened in the last two matches. If there were any stakes involved, that would mean something. Raw Talk Seth Rollins, the man who once ironically called himself “the captain” actually lead an actual team to victory. And in typical Seth fashion, he was the sole survivor. The victory was even more impressive since Raw started shorthanded when Kevin Owens showed up and then turned his back on everyone before the match started. Good character moment for the man who vowed to show his true colors at Survivor Series. According to every Western ever, that color is yellow. Bobby Lashley and Drew McIntyre continued their beef and got the dreaded double DQ, while Jeff and Sheamus couldn’t co-exist long enough for the latter to not knock the former’s head off his shoulders. Literally, not figuratively. It’s wrestling, not murder. A fun match that incorporated a few stories, furthered a main story of Raw, and showed that maybe Seth really is a visionary. SoloEST (Work with Me Here) The women of SmackDown made it clear early they can’t get along. When it comes to their implosion, it was a matter of when, not if. And “when” happened at the most inopportune time, as they outnumbered Raw four to one. Seriously, FOUR to ONE. Their dysfunction led to Bianca Belair staging a miraculous comeback and getting another win for her brand. The match went a little long and the crowd seemed ready to revolt on anything that wasn’t Sasha Banks and Bianca, but the right woman won as Bianca needed her momentum back. Meanwhile, there was no way SmackDown could win with all that simmering beef cooking below and above the surface. South of Heaven=Hell For the record, Pat Mac, that was not Jimi Hendrix at ringside during this match. Damian Priest and Shinsuke Nakamura battled in a pretty good match. The story here? Priest’s Two Face performance. After multiple guitar riffs bought Nakamura back to life, Priest warned Boogs to cut it out or else. Boogs found out what “or else” meant as he plucked his strings one too many times. Priest flipped his lid, broke Boogs’ guitar—getting the best “son of a b*tch” reaction ever from Pat—and earned himself a DQ when he smashed what was left of the guitar over Nak’s head. The Rock Would Be Rolling Over in His Grave So, yeah, the 25 man battle royale to “celebrate” The Rock’s 25th anniversary wasn’t worthy of the man who inspired it. Omos won, Otis ate pizza in the middle of the ring, and the Street Profits celebrated their loss—yup—by tossing slices of Pizza Hut to the audience. If you like dope wrestling or even just dope battle royales, this ain’t for you. But if 20 minute Pizza Hut commercials are your thing, then this is just the taste you’re looking for. Nobody out pizza’s Omos. something of a surprise, Vince McMahon made a rare television appearance for WWE at the Survivor Series pay-per-view (PPV) at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. He showed up with Cleopatra’s Egg, which, as it turned out, wasn’t just a fun callback to 1990 but a bit of promotion for The Rock’s latest film, Red Notice, on Netflix. McMahon claimed it wasn’t a prop from the movie but rather The Rock personally gifted it to him and it’s worth $100 million. He told all this to Roman Reigns, who was unimpressed and remarked it’s almost as much as his next contract. Slick. Naturally, someone stole it from his office and he demanded Adam Pearce and Sonya Deville get to the bottom of it, lest he bring the entire roster to Monday Night Raw this week to figure out who is responsible. Seeing as we got no resolution to the mystery of the missing Egg, that would seem to be the plan. The two best matches of the night were the bread holding together a very meh sandwich. Besides the opening match and the main event, there just wasn’t anything to get truly invested in with Survivor Series. None of the matches had stakes, even though they moved some stories forward on their respective shows. But the lack of overall story for anything other than a meaningless brand superiority contest that most of the wrestlers couldn’t care less about made the show drag harder than a broken muffler. Oh and let’s not forget the ever compelling—he said dripping with sarcasm—tale of the missing Cleopatra’s Egg. Survivor Series 2021 is a very mixed bag that represents this year as a whole for WWE: A lot of attention paid to the top feuds with the top belts while everything else feels sloppy at worst and an afterthought at best. Grade: C- 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 9:30am On Nov 22, 2021 |
again, mixing reality with kayfabe to leave us just as confused as we ever were...great stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahru4OjUhXA |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 9:37am On Nov 23, 2021 |
WWE RAW REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS Let’s talk Raw! Egg Hunt Someone stole Cleopatra’s Egg at Survivor Series. The actual egg, not a prop from The Rock’s latest flick, Red Notice. Vince McMahon wanted every superstar on the roster at Raw to conduct a thorough investigation. In fact, McMahon sweetened the pot at the start of the show: He/she who finds the egg, gets a handsome reward. And he who finds the culprit, gets a WWE Championship match. And just like that, this egg hunt has more stakes than the entirety of Survivor Series. But I digress. In one fail swoop, McMahon morphed into Willy Wonka, the Easter Bunny, and Oprah Winfrey. Just don’t tell Oprah I said that. Raw only carried this storyline out in a handful of segments. We saw wrestlers throwing over tables and walking into the wrong restrooms, running around corners, and a few office visits with Vince. Sami Zayn, Sonya Deville, and Adam Pearce were in one such visit, where Zayn revealed he knew who put their hand in the golden egg carton: Austin Theory. Austin explained to the boss that he wanted to take a selfie with the egg—kids these days—and was so nervous that he took the egg to his hotel room. But he meant no harm. Rather than make good on his word to punish the thief, McMahon rewarded Theory with a championship match. And Zayn? The man who was promised a championship match as a reward? Allow me to insert the following from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymPpIzaanhY And he called him a snitch. Austin Theory had no shot. Sure, he had his moments, but so do dogs when they think they can outrun cars. Raw wants to show Theory off and put him up against heavy hitters. In that regard, he held his own with E. However, the weirdest part of the match was the ending. Seth Rollins and Kevin Owens both got involved in the match but not to the point of bothering anyone. In fact, they were more of a burden to each other as they yelled at one another because they don’t like each other. Theory, rather than taking advantage of his downed opponent, was so mesmerized by Seth and KO’s bickering, that Big E caught him off guard with a Big Ending and put the young challenger out of his misery. E then commenced with the traditional post match beatdown of his opponents—Seth in this case—as commentary said goodnight. This ain’t it. Besides the nonsensical idea that Theory stole the egg to take a selfie with it, we got a match where one of the contestants lost focus because two people were arguing outside of the ring. Seth and Ko weren’t bothering Austin Theory; they weren’t even thinking about him. Yet there he was, looking like a deer in the headlights. It was slasher movie logic, only replace running up the stairs instead of the front door with what Theory did. And E keeps beating up on Seth and KO over the idea they might interfere in one of his matches. That’s it. The WWE Championship story is an asinine one and needs someone to catch it before it spins way off its axis. Royal Beauty Super Brutality—Rhea Ripley and Nikki A.S.H.—defended their tag titles against Carmella and Queen Zelina. For weeks, Mella x Zelina told us Nikki is the weak link. They told us Nikki is holding Rhea back. And they also told us Nikki only looks super by association. So what did they do? Elementary, my dear readers. Mella and Zelina isolated the tag champs from each other when the former kicked the snot out of Rhea, bashing her head into the ring post in the process. One Code Red later, and Nikki found herself on the wrong end of a 3-count. The match wasn’t great but for me, this was the right outcome. Not necessarily because Mella and Zelina will put on clinics, but because there was no story with the former champs. They were running in place and it was time to move on. Not sure if this is right direction to move, but it is a direction. The Rest Becky Isn’t Down for the Underdog Once again, props to Becky for knowing exactly how to turn the crowd on a dime. Earlier on Raw, she basked in her Survivor Series win but told the fans they’re adulation and opinions mean nothing. Ouch, Becks. As someone who spouts his opinion every week, that hurts. Becky berated Brooklyn for disrespecting the eight women who battled for Raw and SmackDown at Survivor Series, and said it doesn’t matter how much they want someone new to hold the belt, specifically Liv Morgan, the belt is hers. When Liz got a chance to respond, Becky interrupted. Becky told the story she keeps telling: Liv underachieves and comes up short in big moments. In a funny moment, Becky said Liv will never even hold the championship. Liv’s response? “I held it last week.” To which I cackled. Becky apparently also found it comical because she used that opening to further belittle her challenger, explaining that she lets little kids hold her belt during autograph signings. And yet, none of those kids are Raw Women’s Champion. Eventually, Becky stepped over the line calling Liv a disappointment to her family, her boyfriend, and her “friends who aren’t even here anymore.” Liv snapped and gave the champion the bruising she was certainly cruising for. This was the best segment this week and did more for Liv’s journey than a match ever could. This is Seth’s Brutality Seth Rollins and the dope wrestler with a terrible nickname, Finn Balor, were supposed to wrestle. I say supposed to because before the match started, Seth went wild. He brutalized Finn with little to no remorse, hellbent on proving he is the visionary of the brand. I liked it. I wish we got more stuff like this on Raw because it moves characters forward and their stories. What I don’t like is the fan attacking Seth while he walked to the locker room. Thankfully, Seth wasn’t hurt as refs and security jumped on the fan faster than a starving man jumps on a Christmas ham. Single White Male RK-Bro’s story took a different angle this week when Riddle, clearly a literal cat, took Randy Orton’s words to heart. Rather than simply being like his tag partner, Riddle chose to be his tag partner. Yup, complete with fake mustache, fake goatee, and painted on abs. Riddle even wore a sleeveless hoodie to bear arms like a militia. It was silly but a weird turn in their relationship and the story. Randy goes from frustration to love back to frustration back to love. There’s no forward progression right now when there looks like there will be a lot. Two Birds, One Gigantic Stone Apparently the Adam Pearce portion of Rey Mysterio and Dominik’s story is done? Must be because Rey and his son battled Bobby Lashley in a handicap match with Pearce nowhere to be found. And of course, despite the fact the Mysterios almost pulled it off, they lost to the All Mighty. The highlight of the match came before the bell rang, when MVP cut a hell of a promo about Rey’s failings as a father and shot his shot at Mrs. Mysterio. A Rey Mysterio x Bobby Lashley feud might be dope but it doesn’t have any juice right now. Frankly, I’m not sure if there’s any to squeeze. The Omen Sami Zayn moved to Raw and still can’t escape the conspiracy against him. He talked himself into a United States Championship match with Damian Priest. And it was going Sami’s way until he draped the championship belt over his shoulder, which apparently brought out Damian’s Damian side. Priest—or some version of him—is still the US. Champion. I get what they’re trying to do here with Priest but it comes off as cartoonish too often. It’s not scary so much as it’s comical and over the top silly. Raw Rewind I might be a little off but I’m sure Tamina x Bianca Belair wrestled last week. Hold, please. After checking my notes, they did in fact wrestle last week. So now they wrestle again with the same result. The only difference is now Doudrop is apparently joining forces with Tamina and Nattie? For basketball reasons? Not very good. All Dana Everyday Remember when I asked weeks ago why they even bothered reinstating the Hurt Business? Apparently the answer is one gigantic shrug. But putting Cedric Alexander back on Raw meant he got the chance to battle for the 24-7 Championship. After issuing a critical beatdown to Reggie, Cedric barely celebrated before Dana Brooke stunned him with a top rope neck breaker. Dana Brooke is your new 24-7 Champion. This isn’t a diss to Dana when I say this because Dana works hard and I’m always rooting for her. But this is an indictment of the whole segment and the idea behind it: Sigh. Hustling Backwards I’m confused. AJ Styles and his personal colossus battled the Street Profits. The Profits walked to the ring with a duffel bag, and as Chekov told us so many moons ago, if there’s a duffel bag in the first act, we’ll find out what’s in it during the third act. Right when Omos looked ready to smash Montez Ford, Angelo Dawkins pulled a fire extinguisher out of the bag and commenced to let it spray. Obviously, the Profits were DQ’d because duh, but that makes no sense. Rather than try to win the match, their plan was to always get disqualified? How does it help them in the long run 1. losing the match and B. pissing Omos off even more? If you ever wanted to explain to someone that wins and losses don’t matter in WWE, use this match and the crowd’s reaction to the finish as exhibits A-Z. Raw was not good tonight. Not even by its own standards. It wasn’t an enjoyable three hours. They’re either repeating matches, rewriting stories on the fly, or giving the wrestlers not much to work with for their stories. A shoutout to Becky and Liv’s segment, along with Seth and Finn, but the rest of this week was a whiff. Grade: D- 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by Kaycee7(m): 10:15am On Nov 23, 2021 |
The real battle for brand supremacy at Survivor Series for me was between Corey Graves and Pat McAfee. 1 Like |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 11:58am On Nov 23, 2021 |
Kaycee7:you should write a piece on that  1 Like |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by Kaycee7(m): 12:40pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
pu7pl3:I wish I took notes. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 2:38pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Kaycee7:I think Pat came out on top tho |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by Kaycee7(m): 3:38pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
pu7pl3:Same here. I don't know if it's recency bias because we've had Corey for 5 years now, buy it just felt like Pat had some edge over Corey |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 4:28pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Kaycee7:Pat is like the Shiny new toy but he is really good tho 1 Like |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 10:06am On Nov 24, 2021 |
WWE NXT REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS Let’s talk NXT! I’m Still #1 NXT 2.0 really is making this generational conflict the fabric of the brand. It was the basis for so much of the show this week, but none more prevalent than the two matches that bookended the two hours. We’ll get to the second in a few hundred or so words, but let’s start with the main event. Carmelo Hayes defended his North American Championship for the first time. And he did it in a triple threat match with Pete Dunne in one corner, Johnny Gargano in the other, and Trick Williams by his side. Melo didn’t let the two NXT vets battle it out and pick the bones because he has too much ego for that. Melo’s strategy was to apply beatdowns equally and without prejudice. Like another new school cat earlier in the show, Melo is compelled to prove he’s better than everyone else and belongs. Gargano and Dunne eventually did the smart thing when they let their powers combine to neutralize the champ, but that only lasted but so long. Their old school mentality is hard to shake. Those two know of a very different wrestling world than their opponent, one where dog ate dog because apparently cannibalism was a thing. Even when they have a chance to put the young cat down for the count, they can’t put aside their own disdain for each other to get ahead. Even for a little bit. But one man who clearly doesn’t have that problem is Tony D’Angelo. Earlier, Tony let us know he put all his money on Melo for the win. So when it looked like Dunne had the champ right where he wanted him, D’Angelo made the save. Not just to make sure his gamble paid off in the best way possible, but because Tony also has beef with NXT’s old guard. The Italian’s interference gave Melo the opening he needed to shoot and score. From that point, all Hades broke loose. Grayson Waller and LA Knight, who legitimately fought backstage for almost two straight hours, spilled out ringside. You’ve seen wrestling so it was obvious where this was going. Even more obvious when Grayson, Melo, and Tony were in prime pouncing position to injure Johnny Gargano, Mr. NXT himself. A familiar tune played and the NXT champ made his way to the ring with chair in hand. Tomasso Ciampa came to defend his former best friend and bitter rival, along with his turf. The ring cleared, the old school cats stood tall and then Bron Breakker joined the reindeer games. Breakker, who also fancies himself the leader of the new school, yelled “WAR GAMES” into a microphone, then he, along with Melo, Grayson, and Tony D, rushed the ring to fight Ciampa, Gargano, Knight, and Dunne. And because WWE is always the most subtle of organizations, Vic Joseph proclaimed it’s old school vs. new school in two weeks at WarGames. While LA Knight’s addition makes sense based on his age and background, his storyline integration as part of any team isn’t as smooth as one wants. BUT, the rest of this makes complete sense. Breakker and Melo’s team believe it’s a new day. Each of them said as much in different ways. Ciampa and Gargano’s team (most of them) says not so fast, young bucks. The WarGames match means a lot to both squads and I’m curious how it plays out. Whoever wins, and how they win, will say a lot about where WWE sees NXT 2.0 going. But it also begs the question: Where do we go from there? Respect Last week, Grayson Waller talked greasy about DIY and did it all with his chest. DIY, what they represented and how they became a thing, are of the past, according to Waller. As far as he’s concerned, he’s just as good and deserves just as many props. Guess who didn’t take too kindly to that? If you said Tomasso Ciampa, then you clearly watched NXT last week. Thanks to Waller’s unkind words, he and the NXT Champion squared off this week in a good excellent match. Waller didn’t need to beat the champ so much as he needed to hang with him. But the champ needed to make an example of his challenger and put him away quickly. While he made good on the first part of that plan, the second part was, putting it mildly, less successful. Waller started out looking completely overmatched but once he found his footing, it was clear Ciampa needed to take it seriously. For Ciampa, this was less about Waller and more about the entireNXT. Waller represents the new school but Ciampa believes there’s no school like the old school, and he’s the damn headmaster. Ciampa hit his usual spots but it was Waller who surprised here, truly making the champion sweat and showing he ain’t no joke. In the end, after two earlier failed attempts, Waller fell victim to the Fairytale Ending. But whew, that look on Ciampa’s face when it was over said more than any words I’m typing ever could. Waller made Ciampa work and whether or not he wanted to give it, Grayson Waller earned the champ’s respect. The Rest Family Feud Last week, Persia Pirotta handled some light work for her tag team while Indi Hartwell tended to her fallen husband. This week, Indi claimed she was focused and ready to wrestle sports entertain as they were in tag team competition with Kacy Catanzaro and Kayden Carter. The funniest part of the whole ordeal was Persia telling Indi she could sit this one out too. Persia really figured she could Catanzaro and Carter by herself? Disrespectful! Indi isn’t focused. She spent most of the match looking at her ring finger and got pinned because she isn’t focused. How much longer can Persia stand for this? Return of the Mac Guess who’s back? Santos Escobar. After attacking Xyon Quinn last week, the Legado del Fantasma leader participated in a squash match my guy Malik Blade. Seriously, that name is just awesome. This morphed into a standoff between LDF, Kyle O’Reilly & Von Wagner (henceforth known as Von Reilly Wagner), and Imperium. Even though it started with Elektra Lopez seemingly continuing their beef with Xyon Quinn, so it wasn’t the smoothest transition from one story to another. Imperium did their normal foreigner heel schtick. You know, insulting the crowd for being stupid and only knowing one language, along with their general smugness. LDF and Von Reilly Wagner will battle next week for a chance to dethrone the NXT tag champs at WarGames. Hold it Down I really liked Cameron Grimes’ promo. Why? It felt real and not like something someone wrote for him. Doesn’t mean they didn’t, but passion is hard to fake and clearly, Grimes felt every word. It also established why someone like Duke Hudson rubs him in every wrong way possible. Grimes was told his entire life that he’s a joke and worthless, the same things Hudson tells him on the regular. Last week, Duke went too far when he cut Cameron’s hair and embarrassed him on national television just for being, according to Duke, unworthy. At WarGames, we’re getting a hair vs. hair match with Cameron in one corner, and Duke in another. Oh, and Duke will have locks of Cameron’s hair by his side in a plastic bag. Queen B*tch Mandy Rose had one job: Beat up Cora Jade and keep her out of WarGames. Rose failed thanks to an outside distraction courtesy of Kay Lee Ray, who brought a baseball bat to a fist fight. Cora Jade scored a quick rollup, while the team of Jade, Io Sharai, and Raquel Gonález found their fourth woman in Ms. Ray. NXT’s self-proclaimed queen wasn’t happy about it, but it was her own fault. Losin’ Weight Joe Gacy and LA Knight walk into a wrestling arena. They don’t have a match because Grayson Waller attacks Knight on his way to the ring. And then there is Gacy, standing all by his lonesome, on the mic doing his usual thing. Along comes the Mine with Diamonds on their mind with their dislike of Gacy in tow. Then Gacy starts talking his internet babble and nearly derails the whole show. His eyes on the title of Cruiserweights now, Gacy talked a good game about shame. Then Roderick Strong struts, his chest all a puff, as he falls for the obvious game. Gacy the heavy vs. Roderick the cruiser for the title is on at WarGames. A fight almost broke out but then Harland showed up and then Bivens said peace and good day. Tight Ivy Nile is a beast. I don’t know what they’re doing with her other than show she’s a beast but as of now, it’s nothing but squash matches for Diamond Mine’s first lady. This was was no different as she put Yulisa Leon away quicker than a Star Wars fan rolls their eyes at that Darth Vader scene in Revenge of the Sith. You know the scene. 2 Dope Boyz Briggs & Jensen bested the Grizzled Young Veterans in a fun if unremarkable tag match. The story here is how GYV keep hustling everyone in and outside of the ring, but it didn’t work this time. James Drake faked a knee injury the way soccer and basketball players flop. And it almost worked until he tried to kick using that same supposedly hurt knee. Nah. NXT 2.0 is Attitude Era lite. That’s not a diss, just an observation of what they want the brand seemingly wants to be. In this episode alone, we got a prison rape joke courtesy of MSK, a Tiffany Stratton vignette that showed everything but her face, a lot of talking segments, very short matches that set up other stories or more talking, and a show that moves so fast one might notice things that don’t quite add up. All of that, plus their emphasis on “edginess” and emphasis on sex all add up to WWE dipping their toe in that late 1990s water. Some will love that, some won’t. They’re still putting the character puzzles together to make that type of TV truly pop, and maybe one day we’ll get there. NXT, even in 2.0 form, isn’t putting on bad shows, but it’s not the home for wrestling purists it used to be. Time will tell how bold that strategy is, Cotton. Grade: B 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 9:47pm On Nov 26, 2021 |
Who watched MJF and CM Punk's promo battle? If you haven't, please do, it's on YouTube. 1 Like |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 7:30am On Nov 27, 2021 |
WWE SMACKDOWN REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS This was not a good show. I came in expecting something of a lull period, what with the stale, formulaic Survivor Series event that just happened and the brand needing to reset and get going again as we head toward the Day 1 event on Jan. 1, 2022, to get us ready for Royal Rumble and WrestleMania season proper. But sheesh. What we ended up with was a show focused almost entirely on a guy who wasn’t there, Brock Lesnar, and his suspension status, all while they booked a battle royal to determine the next top contender to Roman Reigns’ Universal championship even though they kept telling us Lesnar will be back soon — even though it was just a RUMOR and they really hate RUMORS. Reigns cut a promo that was nowhere near his best work where he more or less said no one on this show is anywhere near his level and he’s basically wasting his time — even hinting there may not be much time left for him in this industry — and that includes Lesnar. The problem with this, of course, is that he’s right and there are no good babyfaces on this brand to counter him. Once we got to the battle royal, it featured a bunch of wrestlers with no real chance of winning, and even included no less than four wrestlers who had lost matches earlier in the evening. No matter, they were given the chance to earn a title shot anyway! In the end, Sami Zayn was smart with it and used the strategy everyone in any WWE battle royal should use but never does, because they’re all the dumbest ass, and won the damn thing. But that was instantly overshadowed by Kayla Braxton announcing, right in Zayn’s face, that Lesnar’s suspension is officially lifted and he’ll be back on SmackDown next week. They spent a whole show building to a match to determine the next title contender and then almost instantly made it something that never mattered to begin with. This is something WWE does far too often and it’s really amplified on shows like this, where nothing interesting happens and nearly everyone on the program is made to look bad. All the rest Kayla Braxton vs. Paul Heyman is a feud I hope lasts forever. Can’t say I’m terribly intrigued by Drew McIntyre and Jeff Hardy teaming up on a timeline that extends beyond a couple weeks, but for those couple weeks it’s been fun enough just seeing two babyfaces the crowd enjoys cheering going out and beating up on two heels, Happy Corbin and Madcap Moss, the crowd enjoys booing. Said it before with this and will say it again — sometimes it works just fine keeping things simple. Ridge Holland got his first match on the main roster, and he was rolled up and beaten by Cesaro. Sheamus was on commentary for it, pushing the idea that anyone he works with ends up much better off for it. He wasn’t happy with the loss here but they didn’t spend much time on any fallout from it, so we’ll have to wait to see where it goes. I’m a fan of Rick BOOGS and think there’s absolutely a place for him but I can’t help but think of the fact that Shinsuke Nakamura was one of the very best wrestlers on Earth while he was in Japan years ago and since coming to WWE has been much less than that through absolutely no fault of his own. Instead of watching Nakamura build a compelling program with literally anyone, we’re watching his hype man get pinned by Angel. This is all in service of a tag team program. Nakamura is the Intercontinental champion. This sucks. So the idea behind firmly establishing Toni Storm as the next top contender to the SmackDown women’s championship was to humiliate her by having Charlotte Flair pie face her? And have Storm just stand there and take it? Okay. Shayna Baszler and Natalya teamed up to take on Sasha Banks and Naomi after Banks got all up in Sonya Deville’s face and confronted her about why exactly she hates Naomi so much. They’re leaning heavily into this story, with Deville getting worse and worse as the corporate overlord who is far too power hungry. It’s a WWE staple and we really don’t need it. I was initially intrigued to see where this would go with Naomi but it’s really just been weeks and weeks of the authority figure getting over on the babyface and the babyface never getting anything back in any meaningful way. Then again, we still don’t have much backstory for Deville weirdly turning on Naomi for no reason. This tag match was clunky as could be. The babyfaces won this time, and Sonya clapped for them. That was that. Hey, wasn’t Banks supposed to be next for Charlotte? Is that just not a thing now? This was a bad show. The best part of the night really may have been this: https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1464402850067501057?t=U8bjXqGVcGlOAaC3n7_5uQ&s=19 Grade: D 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 8:30am On Nov 30, 2021 |
WWE RAW REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS Let’s talk Raw! Dance, Puppet. Dance. KO is a smart dude. Props to the Canadian for playing Gepetto to Seth Rollins’ Pinocchio. Seth is so easy to wind up and it’s so obvious where the strings are, all KO needed was to lightly pull and watch his puppet play. Owens told the number one contender that a win over Big E this week would grant him an entry into the WWE Championship match at Day 1 (ish), turning Rollins’ one-on-one title match into a triple threat affair. So what did Rollins do? Walk right into Adam Pearce’s office—like KO told him to—and questioned the WWE official about the lies of a liar. Pearce and Sonya didn’t plan that initially, but after hearing the idea from Seth—who of course heard it from KO—decided it was a pretty good idea and added the stipulation to that match. Seth’s paranoia and penchant for snitching potentially complicated the one match he looked forward to since he stepped foot into a Raw arena. KO’s manipulation continued because he knows Seth oh too well. Of course Seth planned to sit ringside during Raw’s main event with so much at stake. And of course Seth was just waiting for the right time to interfere and make sure Big E walked out of Long Island with his hand in the air. Yeah, about all that. KO goaded Seth during the match just like he goaded him all throughout the show. Owens messed with Seth just enough at ringside to cause the Visionary to lose his cool and get Big E disqualified. And just like that, we’re getting a triple threat match for the WWE Championship at WWE’s next pay per view. It was great storytelling, relying on character, backstory, and letting everyone be true to who we know they are along with providing legitimate stakes. If Raw did more of this on the regular basis, the grades at the bottom of these recaps would look a lot different. Exceeding Expectations Becky Lynch believes Liv Morgan doesn’t truly deserve a title shot, but she’s willing to give her one out of sheer kindness. At least that’s the story she tells us and definitely one she tells herself. This week, we got the necessary contract signing—because it’s wrestling and we know how this goes—and what we got was Liv finally getting to have her say in Becky’s narrative. I’m not a big fan of Liv trying to be a vicious person, calling out Becky for crying after her latest match with Charlotte Flair and for her greediness being the reason her friends are no longer in WWE. Not because it’s not fair game for a promo. But because it doesn’t ring true to Liv. I’m not really sure what her character is but trying to out Becky Becky doesn’t work for her. Liv needed her time to shine, yes, but this felt more like a candle than a sun ray. There is something interesting though of painting Becky as just another Charlotte, illustrating that she’s now the thing she hates most. But with their championship match happening next week, we don’t have a lot of time to flesh that out. But enough of my philosophical musings. Becky and Liz’s showdown gave birth to a 10-woman tag match. Team Becky (Becky, Doudrop, Queen Zelina, Carmella, Tamina) on one side and Team Liv (Liv, Bianca Belair, Rhea Ripley, Nikki A.S.H., Dana Brooke) on the other. To keep it real, the match didn’t do anything for me in the first few minutes. But once the respective rivalries started showing themselves and different stories were highlighted, my interest piqued like Everest. Liv needed to prove to Becky—but mostly herself—that she can deliver in a big spot. Liv picked her spot in the end, nailing Tamina with an Oblivion to pick up a W for the babyfaces. Becky wasn’t feeling that. She wants Liv to get no props, not even a handful of them. The champ took her frustration out on her challenger and fell victim to an Oblivion herself. Liv needed that moment to sell the fact she might win next week. Becky doesn’t take her seriously yet, but she should. I just wish they had more time to make this story really pop and serve both women well when it’s over. Ruthless Tag Teaming Here’s the thing: I need RK-Bro to shift to another gear. Not in the ring, but for their story. We’re several months into their tag team saga and we’re still hitting the same notes. Randy is constantly beleaguered by Riddle’s antics. Riddle, blissfully unaware, takes it all in stride, insults and all, with a smile on his face and continues his hero worship. They fuss—well, Randy fusses—they go into matches seemingly on the precipice of destruction, only to pull victories out of their hats like magicians and rabbits. It’s a neat trick, but it was neater the first dozen times we saw it. That said, RK-Bro defended their titles and title defenses, in theory, are always a good thing. Especially when there’s four cats going at it who are really good at they do. WWE logic here doesn’t quite make sense though because the Dirty Dawgz didn’t show they were on the level of the tag champs on any level. WWE tells us all the time that these two are an odd couple just one bad day away from a breakup. But we never see that manifest itself in matches. Nor are we seeing them go against opponents who can truly make them sweat and test their bond. Along with putting Randy’s belief that they need to “be ruthless” and “10 steps ahead” to defend their belts. I’m sorry, but you don’t need any of those two things to beat Big Bob and Dolph. Hopefully we’re building to that because there’s a dope story to tell if WWE ever gets around to writing it down. The Rest Edge Over the Competition If you’re a fan of AEW, then you know CM Punk ruffled MJF’s feathers last week when he called the Long Islander a “less famous Miz.” The Chicago crowd ate it up and yeah, it was a pretty apt line. Well, as fate would have it, Miz made his return to Raw this week and stepped to a returning Edge. Much like lesser Miz, WWE’s A-lister took all sorts of umbrage with Edge not mentioning Miz as someone he’s eager to compete against. With WWE copying AEW here, it was only a matter of time before someone mentioned the elephant in the room. I’ll just let Edge’s words do the work for me: “You have people on other shows saying your name just to get a cheap reaction. You live rent free in a lot of heads.” While the idea of Edge and Miz going one-on-one doesn’t really do much for me, I have full faith that they both, if allowed, can sell me. Or, and this was foreshadowed a bit with the way Miz gave Maryse the spotlight, maybe we get Maryse, Miz, Edge, and Beth Phoenix! That has some potential, right? Blind Man’s Bluff Guess who said he was blind this week after getting sprayed with a fire extinguisher last week? AJ Styles. Guess who really wasn’t blind? AJ Styles! Gasp! AJ’s ruse was uncovered when he took time away from his very entertaining commentary to interfere in the Street Profits match against Alpha Academy. It didn’t work. And now, Styles is beefing with his personal colossus because Omos didn’t have his back? Or didn’t catch him? OR, and this is legitimately what I believe: AJ didn’t let Omos in on the gag. Omos really thought AJ was blinded and the big man was stunned, shocked, and any other adjective you can think of when he found out his partner has full 20/20 vision. Omos just looked at him for a while in disbelief. You know who else didn’t like AJ’s plan? Vincent Kennedy McMahon, as he said as much immediately after the match. He called it “freaking horrible.” Same, Vince. Same. The Dark Side of the Force Damian Priest and Apollo Crews are two cats who can put on a compelling match. This wasn’t it. Even with the United States Championship on the line. Championship matches need some build rather than just happening for basketball reasons. And since the story with any Priest match as of late is his Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde routine, until there’s a story behind the actual matches, then it’s just a character quirk without any true meaning or impact. Family Business The Hurt Business hurts me. My soul is anguished over the constant state of purgatory Shelton Benjamin and Cedric Alexander are in at the moment. Especially since they’re former tag team champs! And they’re treated like bums. To say nothing of the fact there’s no MVP, no Bobby Lashley, and no Hurt Business pageantry. If not for commentary referring to them as the Hurt Business, nothing Raw shows me says that’s even a thing. After getting decimated by the All Mighty last week in a handicap match, the Mysterios were victorious over Lashley’s “teammates.” Quotations around that because they’re a team just for show at this point. It’s like Cats. Those aren’t actual walking, talking cats. Just people playing dress up and putting on a show. The Artist Formerly Known As... Remember when Finn Bálor was a thing? I sure do. WWE might remember that as well, but they clearly have no intention of reliving the past. This is the second week in a row where Finn is here merely to get Seth Rollins over. Which is weird considering Rollins was the men’s team’s sole survivor at Survivor Series. Unlike last week, we got an actual match between the two. And it was a fun match! But like any narrative, the storyline needs a reason to exist. For all the money in my pocket, I can’t fathom why these two need to fight right now. Especially when the outcome is never in question. Oh, and Seth announced he gets his shot at the WWE Championship at (down since) Day 1 (ish) on New Year’s Day. Stop me if you heard this before, but Raw is average. The 10 woman tag match papered over some of the missteps in the Raw Women’s Championship story, while everything with KO x Seth was on point this week. We also got this weird running story of Vince McMahon and Austin Theory watching the show so the former could school the latter on expecting the unexpected. It was obvious from jump the whole thing was leading to Austin getting assaulted by the Chairman, yet apparently Austin doesn’t watch WWE programing and hasn’t watched it for the past 25 years. Grade: C 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 8:35am On Dec 01, 2021 |
WWE NXT REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS Hit Em’ Up Hip Hop is littered with generational battles, directly or indirectly. There’s always a tug of war between an older generation and a fresh crop of talent who want to remake the game in their images. It’s the law of the theoretical jungle that LL Cool J and Canibus beefed. And those same rules apply to Team 2.0 vs Team Black and Gold. Now, calling the team consisting of Tomasso Ciampa, Johnny Gargano, LA Knight, and Pete Dunne “Black and Gold” says to me that the writing is on the wall. In case you haven’t noticed, black and gold aren’t NXT’s colors anymore soooo yeah, kinda weird for the victorious team to hold up a flag the brand itself doesn’t even wave anymore. But let’s not put the cart before the horse on its way to the glue factory. Team 2.0 took their turns listing every reason they have for not liking their older counterparts. Some want championships, some want respect, some want spots. Ultimately, Team 2.0 just wants Team Black and Gold outta here. And the first step to accomplishing this ultimate dream is a ladder match between Bron Breakker and Johnny Gargano. The winner gains an advantage at WarGames, psychologically and physically. It’s not lost on me the symbolism of Bron needing to go through Ciampa’s former partner and Mr. NXT himself. Bron fashions himself the big dog on the block—couldn’t help it—and 2.0’s heart and soul. Gargano and all he stands for is just another old ass obstacle in his way. And it showed during the match. What made this work is the fact Bron kept coming. No matter what Johnny did, no matter how he did it, Bron never stopped. The man ate a ladder, took a briefcase to the head, and got thrown onto the commentary table. Let’s not forget the moment where his back got introduced to the ladder in a way that won’t make his chiropractor happy. In short, Bron took a licking and just. kept. ticking. Bron’s relentlessness seemingly caught Gargano by surprise. There were two moments where he had the match won but lacked a sense of urgency going up the ladder. Either because he was in pain or just figured he had the time, Johnny Wrestling couldn’t hit the next gear when he needed all the gears. Bron? Well, his engine never stops. One beautiful press into a powerslam later, and Bron’s going to Disney World! Well, eventually, but for winning the match he earned Team 2.0 the best position possible going into WarGames. A brawl erupted in the end between both teams because, duh, creating a hot ending to a pretty good show. We talk about the future of NXT a lot in this space. I’m betting that future gets a lot clearer when the past and present collide at WarGames and we witness the fallout. The Rest Ladders, Oh My I love the sense of urgency in NXT. Always have. No matter what iteration the brand takes, 1.0, 2.0, iOS 15.2, there’s always a rawness—pun intended—that the main roster shows lack. Proof? This week’s show started mid-beatdown as Kay Lee Ray and Dakota Kai couldn’t wait to kill each other. It grabbed me by my sweater collar and never let go. The very physical ladder match—props to Kai for bumping like some sort of bumping machine—showed just how important WarGames is to both of these women. Neither wanted to come up short for their respective teams. At the end of the (very brutal) day, Ray was victorious. WarGames should be just as physical and I can’t wait. F U Andre Chase’s role is comedy talent enhancement. And that’s cool! Not everyone can be the champ. But his persona is strong enough where no matter what happens in that ring, he remains entertaining outside of it. Unfortunately for Chase, he ran into a very pissed off and motivated Cameron Grimes this week. You know how this went. You don’t even need me to spell it out. Chase’s early dismissal meant a visit from Duke Hudson, who continues to not entertain me but does make me want to see Grimes cut his hair at WarGames. Hudson got under Grimes’ skin so bad, Grimes almost cut Andre Chase’s hair! Just because! Luckily for the Dean of Chase U, a student saved him. I bet it wasn’t Steve. He’s a dumbass. Kyle Von Wagner! Legado del Fantasma can’t show their faces around these parts anymore. Joaquin Wilde & Raul Mendoza have no business losing to Kyle O’Reilly x Von Wagner. None. But they did. And you know why? They took those two cats lightly and then played themselves like Parker Brothers. Just when it looked like Von Wagner’s inexperience might cost his team a shot at the tag titles, the big man showed some character growth in a fantastic way and stopped a potential match-ending double team by LDF. As a result, he gets a shot at NXT gold at WarGames. Imperium now has one more thing to think about. We also got a bit of business between Xyon Quinn and Santos Escobar, who we found out are going on-on-one at WarGames. Interesting to see where Elektra Lopez’s loyalties lie during and after their match. Soloist Time to keep it real for a moment: I abhor Black and Brown wrestlers getting the “from the streets” background. Besides the fact that it’s stereotypical and not representative of all minorities, it’s also played out. I don’t doubt the truth of Edris Enofe’s story either. And I thank him for his service. I just wish both he and Solo Sikoa got to play different notes other than the same song. Whew, okay, with that out of the way, this was an enjoyable match between two men who will probably become a tag team. Solo got the win but a post-match attack from Boa—he don’t want none—and a sign of respect between Enofe and Sikoa means there’s more to come. Unfocused So the news here is Dexter Lumis is on the loose. Lumis escaped the hospital like the slasher he is, and now Indi Hartwell is worried. So worried in fact, she almost took an L for her team. Persia Pirotta, as per usual these days, picked up the slack and got them to the pay window. I’m still interested in the story because I want to see what breaks first: Indi’s will to continue or her jaw when Persia hits her out of frustration. The Farce is Strong with This One Gotta give Beth Phoenix props for this headline. Joe Gacy is clearly hustling everyone and getting what he wants. To prove how progressive he is, Gacy gave a preview of what his Cruiserweight title reign might look like. He lined up a short wrestler, a woman, and a super heavyweight. Right before we got to an intergender match, Diamond Mine made their presence known. Roderick Strong was tired of talking and just wanted to fight. Some people are saved by the bell but Gacy was saved by the Harland. Gacy’s character is clicking with me but I’m not sure he’s the guy who needs a belt. Cruiserweight or otherwise. There was a lot more wrestling on this show than I assumed, but every actual match we got was purposeful. We’re hopefully, finally, mercifully getting to the end of MSK’s search, and got a few more vignettes of new 2.0 talent. WarGames is filled with matches with bigger steaks than Texas, with the two big actual namesake matches being the most important storyline-wise and from a meta standpoint. WarGames is the proverbial fork in the road. This week’s episode did a good job establishing why. Grade: B+ 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 2:59pm On Dec 01, 2021 |
I'm officially announcing Gigi Dolin as my new WWE girlfriend That girl is soo hot, toxicity is a plus 1 Like
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| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 7:30pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
This is going to be hard to swallow, but if you think through it, you'll get it. I believe storylines are totally unnecessary in pro-wrestling. What we need for big matches are promos, sports style. Its pro-wrestling, not entertainment. What do you all think? |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 8:02pm On Dec 02, 2021 |
ValeeLove:It's Pro wrestling entertainment...I don't think the promos will carry any weight without the storyline behind it |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by Kaycee7(m): 6:15am On Dec 03, 2021 |
pu7pl3:Them thighs are gospel  |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by Kaycee7(m): 6:19am On Dec 03, 2021 |
ValeeLove:Nope. Storylines are integral to what make pro-wrestling what it is. I do admit, sometimes a potentially good match going to shit to further a storyline can be disappointing and frustrating at times but that's a flaw that can be remedied instead of abandoning the storyline format entirely. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 7:40am On Dec 03, 2021 |
Kaycee7:You know this  |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 1:32pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
pu7pl3:its pro-wrestling, a combination of sports and entertainment. Have you ever had this feeling when you see an obviously scripted story play out on TV on a wrestling program and it just looks a out of place, doesn't grab your attention, but you watch it because, you know, THAT'S HOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN. Promos will do just fine without scripted stories. Lets just have an official(in no character) coordinate an interview session for and between wrestlers announced for a match for an event, let the wrestlers cut their promos either as a face or heel and watch that PROMOte the match without an unnecessary scripted story. The story writes itself out, good guy vs bad guy. Anyway I said it's going to be hard to swallow. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 1:36pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Kaycee7:my point is it's unnecessary, I already stated what actually needs to be done under Pu7pl3's comment. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 1:38pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
ValeeLove:How will you now know who is the good guy and the bad guy? How do people get invested? What you just explained is basically Boxing/MMA and they are not nearly as entertaining as Pro-wrestling |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 1:53pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
pu7pl3:this is the question i want to hear/see. Personality display comes to play here, what you say in your promos, how you say, facial expression, manner of move execution in the ring, basically acting like the bad or good guy anytime you're on TV. What do you need to do to make people want you to win and make people want you to lose while still being yourself at the same time, that will give you a good pro-wrestler. This is going to be hard to swallow as I wrote earlier, but in my defense, I'll use Rock vs Cena at WrestleMania 28, the biggest PPV buyrate event in wrestling history, which was sold mainly on ring abilities and PROMOS. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 1:58pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
ValeeLove:Cos The Rock was away for long and came back close to Wrestlemania... What would the wrestlers be doing with their time if they are not playing storylines out? Just hanging around in limbo? |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 2:07pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
pu7pl3:My point is where did storylines come to play in the big PPV buyrate? What made you as a fan watch the match? To your question, wrestlers will be cutting promos and WRESTLING. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 2:11pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
ValeeLove:It will be too boring and robotic please...there needs to be character development and huge cumepance for absolute wrestling experience |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 2:28pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
pu7pl3:no it won't, it would rather be taken seriously and and not silly as opposed to today's product. It won't be boring and robotic because wrestlers will be allowed to be themselves on the mic and in the ring to say and do whatever they want as long as it's along with the promotions' rules while still maintaining a face and heel dynamic, a bit of how it was in the 80s. I know the history of pro-wrestling well enough to know what I'm saying. Pro-wrestling today it's on the wrong track and we need to move on the right one. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 2:33pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
ValeeLove:So a wrestler that can't cut a decent promo that will be able to sell what would have been weeks of storytelling  |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by ValeeLove(m): 3:52pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
pu7pl3:yes, because the good guy vs bad guy story already sells itself. I know you'll find it hard to believe because it looks too simple to be true, but you and I know in wrestling it's the simple things that work. |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 3:57pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
ValeeLove:it doesn't sit well with me tbh 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Purpl3's WWE (and Pro-wrestling in general) Discussion And Banter House by pu7pl3(op): 8:27am On Dec 04, 2021 |
WWE SMACKDOWN REVIEWS RECAPS AND REACTIONS I’ll be damned if Brock Lesnar doesn’t just keep getting better and better. I will no longer accept anyone telling me he is anything other than an all time great. He returned on Friday Night SmackDown this week, sans Paul Heyman by his side, and got some time with a live microphone. He was even going to cut a promo! Before he got the chance, Sami Zayn hit the scene, and a fantastic segment ensued: Normally, a much bigger star should never tell a star underneath them that they don’t know who the hell they are, for obvious promotional reasons, but it works here because Lesnar really is just a big, scary dude out in the middle of nowhere in Canada hunting and killing and feeding his family. He is singularly focused on himself and nothing else, and therefore has no reason to know Zayn, this fan of his who dared interrupt him. But he’s also an opportunist, a shrewd businessman who has outmaneuvered many in the pursuit of his best interests. It’s a big part of how he got to this position, after all. He’s out here using his brains just as much as his brawn, and doing so in the most hilariously entertaining way. He made you laugh, admit it. Or at least he made you smile. Come on. It’s okay. You can admit it now. He’s one of the best ever. I’d also like to make sure to give Zayn plenty of credit, because this probably wouldn’t have worked nearly as well as it did with anyone else. He was also perfect later in the show, when he had fully bought in to Lesnar’s comically see through plan and then just couldn’t stop talking and blabbered himself into a beating mere seconds before his title match against Roman Reigns. He lost. Of course he did. He was always going to. I quite enjoyed the way they went about getting to that, with Zayn heating up both guys en route to their next title match while giving himself a new issue to shout “conspiracy” over. There is a narrative disconnect worth mentioning, however. I’m not quite sure how Lesnar can get suspended, come back, manipulate the top contender, and then just say he’s getting a match for the title at the next pay-per-view without ever actually doing anything for it. Hell, they were promoting it like he was the grand prize, what with the “who will challenge Brock at Day 1” promos before Reigns vs. Zayn. My fandom isn’t deep enough to completely overlook all that. But it is deep enough not to care all that much about it. This ruled. All the rest -Sasha Banks beat Shayna Baszler in a match they kinda/sorta set up last week when they crossed paths in the name of Sonya Deville’s weird feud with Naomi. It was a solid match, one that showed they could do a whole hell of a lot more if there was more on the line in a bigger program. Maybe someday. -If I like the jokes Madcap Moss tells Happy Corbin, does that make me a dad? Arguably better than the jokes? How utterly eager Drew McIntyre and Jeff Hardy were to take their shirts off after attacking them. -Rick BOOGS and Shinsuke Nakamura tried to distract Los Lotharios to give The Viking Raiders a free win, and then Los Lotharios won anyway. BOOGS kept the peace by playing the Raiders music, leading to everyone beating their chests and generally carrying on. -I couldn’t be any less of a fan of the way WWE has written this Charlotte Flair vs. Toni Storm program. The latter has looked utterly ridiculous all throughout, claiming she’s in Flair’s head even after she was embarrassed by her, then responding to that embarrassment by still claiming she was in Flair’s head, all while Charlotte was nothing but dismissive of her. Then, in the big angle to give a bit back to Storm, they had her sneak up on Charlotte and pie face her back. Flair sold the hell out of it, but we’re really out here building title programs off throwing pies in people’s faces. This sucks. -Kofi Kingston returned after some time away for the birth of his child, so instead of letting King Woods and Jey Uso work a straight singles match, they had it break down into a DQ so Kofi could get some licks in. The crowd cheered briefly and then it sounded like they booed. Maybe they figured why not just do a tag match? Seemed strange. -Sheamus pinned Cesaro. -Pat McAfee Moment of the Week: When they played a highlight of Shayna Baszler taking out Nia Jax and Eva Marie with the stomp into the steps, he called it a “future endeavors kick.” You decide how to feel about that. I greatly enjoyed what they did with the top angle on this show. The rest was just sort of there. Grade: B- 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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