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JANK23H:
Now I understand.

Don't worry your hustle go click.

Igboid:
All Ijaw colonialization of people coasts starts from setting camps first and foremost.

Then they start pirate activities to ward off the in dwelling camps from coming close to the coasts.
Then they slowly start building shanties in lands close to the coasts. This is the stage at which they give the settlement a name.

Then now start marrying women from the owners of the land they hijacked their coasts, they multiply quickly and soon they start receiving more of their people from their homeland who come in droves to the the colony.

This is how it happened every where Ijaws occupied the coastline.

The Yorubas nipped it at pirate stage in Lagos and stopped it at expansion stage in Ondo.

Gabonese territorial tribes understand the game well too.

The Akwaibom tribes seem to not understand this game as well, because Ijaw presence has been on the rise in Ibeno and Eastern Obolo in the past decades.

ThickSharon123:
Chisus, point of correction, I have an iGbo man in my life. In fact till when I started having high hormones, the only men that have dated me are Igbos. Even God would testify.

I don't see any lesiure in others. I'm not tribalistic in any way, the stuff is Igbo men are responsible, family conscious, they know the art of taking care of a woman, and making her feel at home.

So this one you're saying hustle go click. I don't hustle with my skirts up. I make 1000 dollars , not naira in a month. And I rather support my man than being a leach.

That's what my mom trained me to do.

Igboid:
If Yorubas were as senseless and non strategic like Igbo Leaders starting from Zik to modern day Governors, the Ijaws would have since claimed the entire ONDO sea coasts.

But Yorubas made sure to keep them in check.

They were also checkmated in Lagos seas coasts too.
It's sad to admit, but Yorubas always had more strategic and foresighted Politicians than we do in Igboland.
The average Igbo Politician doesn't think beyond stockpiling funds from his state or constituency to go live in USA, UK or Canada.
Important group survival issues is non of their business.

It's a pity, this is what we have to correct.

Putindbutt:
During the slave trade in the 19th century, there was a heavy presence of Igbo slaves from the Igbo hinterland.
Further injection of Igbo people, culture and language came after the slave trade was abolished and all the captured slaves brought recently from Igbo land to Opobo and Bonny to be sold couldn't be sold off again, then the Igbo slaves SETTLED then there AMONG the Ijaw natives. The proportion of the Igbo people to the Ijaw was highly significant in both areas that Igbo language became the common spoken language. In addition, the Igbo language was spoken as a second language by all the minorities living along the Niger Delta and was used as a common means of communication with the Igbo people from the hinterlands.
After the Igbo slaves settled there, it was noted that the natives refused to teach their language to the Igbo people and outsiders but rather they reserved it as a secret language instead. This factor led to the heavy decline in the usage of Ibani in Bonny, the total death of the Language in the Opobo area and the pervasive usage of Igbo language in both areas. When the christian missionaries landed in Bonny, note that the natives did not present Ibani to the missionaries but they presented Igbo as their language instead.
This history is clearly captured in the work of Roger Blench of which a snapshot image of his pdf book is shown below. The full PDF material can also be downloaded here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rogerblench.info%2FLanguage%2FNiger-Congo%2FIjoid%2FIbani%2FIbani-English%2520dictionary.pdf&ei=9a12UZqsGISMO8SqgMAD&usg=AFQjCNFwak52P0FClDB2M4XeYRy4X0Vseg&sig2=xjJrI-zJS26YVTz8QNqe9Q



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Alabo7978:
funny enough you don't even know that the ijoh's see us as brothers.
in their own oral tradition, ijo who is to them as ujo was the first son to oduduwa who both migrated from the Nile basin around Egypt.
ijo had a personal juju named Adum, the yorubas knew that juju as adumu.

interestingly Adum deity was the first deity in Bonny kingdom and Alagbiriye also served as it's priests.
if the founders of Bonny didn't migrate from kolokuma (same with calabari) why do they share the same language?
why did the bonnys worship Adum?

anyways, I'm not making a point because it'll fall on deaf ears.
soon I will seize to respond to you clowns.
I will create time and write a well detailed thread, it's just time.
it is in ijaw tradition to enculturate a slave bought, Jaja was also enculturated to Jubo jubogha,
Asimini made some Igbo slaves free men after helping him in battle, now if you claim igbos owned Bonny, why were the igbos enculturated?
why was okwarazurumba renamed Jubo jubogha?

see major clowns, your lies are like leaking nylon, water keeps pouring out.
the igbos are known to move about for business and establish, reason there is atleast one igbo man in every country in the world.
the Bonny people allowed you settle, GAVE YOU THEIR NAMES, FREED YOU FROM SLAVERY, now you want to be a land grabber.
e no go better for una.

just because you igbos are a nuisance everywhere who like to make noise in everything you do, you brought your noise to spread lies just because the ijo man is not a noise maker.
no wahala.
because bonneians freed you.
I will make out time to expose the lies. seriously I didn't know this is what has been going on in nairaland.
it is a pity.

Alabo7978:
funny enough you don't even know that the ijoh's see us as brothers.

Putindbutt:
During the slave trade in the 19th century, there was a heavy presence of Igbo slaves from the Igbo hinterland.
Further injection of Igbo people, culture and language came after the slave trade was abolished and all the captured slaves brought recently from Igbo land to Opobo and Bonny to be sold couldn't be sold off again, then the Igbo slaves SETTLED then there AMONG the Ijaw natives. The proportion of the Igbo people to the Ijaw was highly significant in both areas that Igbo language became the common spoken language. In addition, the Igbo language was spoken as a second language by all the minorities living along the Niger Delta and was used as a common means of communication with the Igbo people from the hinterlands.
After the Igbo slaves settled there, it was noted that the natives refused to teach their language to the Igbo people and outsiders but rather they reserved it as a secret language instead. This factor led to the heavy decline in the usage of Ibani in Bonny, the total death of the Language in the Opobo area and the pervasive usage of Igbo language in both areas. When the christian missionaries landed in Bonny, note that the natives did not present Ibani to the missionaries but they presented Igbo as their language instead.
This history is clearly captured in the work of Roger Blench of which a snapshot image of his pdf book is shown below. The full PDF material can also be downloaded here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rogerblench.info%2FLanguage%2FNiger-Congo%2FIjoid%2FIbani%2FIbani-English%2520dictionary.pdf&ei=9a12UZqsGISMO8SqgMAD&usg=AFQjCNFwak52P0FClDB2M4XeYRy4X0Vseg&sig2=xjJrI-zJS26YVTz8QNqe9Q



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9Pluto:
But you have been posturing as ijaw here. Did you mistakenly forget your tribe?

JANK23H:
I have alluded to this on several occasions.

When the lazy British came,rather than do a thorough investigation coupled with bias,the likes of Crow described Bonny as an Igbo town.

Of course,if he approached a slave and asked his origin, he would have been told him Igbo.

Therein lies my grouse.Igbos initially dismissed the presence of Ijo in Bonny,until earlier accounts were produced.

Putindbutt:
During the slave trade in the 19th century, there was a heavy presence of Igbo slaves from the Igbo hinterland.
Further injection of Igbo people, culture and language came after the slave trade was abolished and all the captured slaves brought recently from Igbo land to Opobo and Bonny to be sold couldn't be sold off again, then the Igbo slaves SETTLED then there AMONG the Ijaw natives. The proportion of the Igbo people to the Ijaw was highly significant in both areas that Igbo language became the common spoken language. In addition, the Igbo language was spoken as a second language by all the minorities living along the Niger Delta and was used as a common means of communication with the Igbo people from the hinterlands.
After the Igbo slaves settled there, it was noted that the natives refused to teach their language to the Igbo people and outsiders but rather they reserved it as a secret language instead. This factor led to the heavy decline in the usage of Ibani in Bonny, the total death of the Language in the Opobo area and the pervasive usage of Igbo language in both areas. When the christian missionaries landed in Bonny, note that the natives did not present Ibani to the missionaries but they presented Igbo as their language instead.
This history is clearly captured in the work of Roger Blench of which a snapshot image of his pdf book is shown below. The full PDF material can also be downloaded here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rogerblench.info%2FLanguage%2FNiger-Congo%2FIjoid%2FIbani%2FIbani-English%2520dictionary.pdf&ei=9a12UZqsGISMO8SqgMAD&usg=AFQjCNFwak52P0FClDB2M4XeYRy4X0Vseg&sig2=xjJrI-zJS26YVTz8QNqe9Q



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Modified: Ibos on this thread are only fighting a lost battle. Give it up already.

Igboid:
This document is referencing a 1969 material.
Why should we take it serious?
They were adding conjectures to Koller account and passing it off dubiously as facts.

Igboid:
Wait! You are an Afonja?
So you will go to Bonny and tell the Igbo speaking natives there that they are descendants of Igbo SLAVES and not descendants of Bonny Aboriginals Igbo kings like Okpara Ndoli, Kamalu, People, etc?

And why should an Afonja be interested in Bonny and Opobo, don't you have Ilorin to win back from your Gambari masters? Are you this jobless?

JANK23H:
Have you read the entire Koller's account or just excerpts?

Or it becomes conjectures when it doesn't suit you.

9Pluto:
But you have been posturing as ijaw here. Did you mistakenly forget your tribe?

JANK23H:
He is and from Nembe.

I understand what he means when he says he isn't Ijaw.We understand what we mean.

izac82:
Nna ehn, this nairaland fear me. So nwokem ma anhu wu afonja? A Yoruba guy keeping watch over Igbo vs Ijaw matter! this speaks volumes.
All these other monikers could be Yoruba bmc guys masquerading as Ijaw men here.

9Pluto:
Please, don't be unfortunate.

Putindbutt:
During the slave trade in the 19th century, there was a heavy presence of Igbo slaves from the Igbo hinterland.
Further injection of Igbo people, culture and language came after the slave trade was abolished and all the captured slaves brought recently from Igbo land to Opobo and Bonny to be sold couldn't be sold off again, then the Igbo slaves SETTLED then there AMONG the Ijaw natives. The proportion of the Igbo people to the Ijaw was highly significant in both areas that Igbo language became the common spoken language. In addition, the Igbo language was spoken as a second language by all the minorities living along the Niger Delta and was used as a common means of communication with the Igbo people from the hinterlands.
After the Igbo slaves settled there, it was noted that the natives refused to teach their language to the Igbo people and outsiders but rather they reserved it as a secret language instead. This factor led to the heavy decline in the usage of Ibani in Bonny, the total death of the Language in the Opobo area and the pervasive usage of Igbo language in both areas. When the christian missionaries landed in Bonny, note that the natives did not present Ibani to the missionaries but they presented Igbo as their language instead.
This history is clearly captured in the work of Roger Blench of which a snapshot image of his pdf book is shown below. The full PDF material can also be downloaded here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEwQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rogerblench.info%2FLanguage%2FNiger-Congo%2FIjoid%2FIbani%2FIbani-English%2520dictionary.pdf&ei=9a12UZqsGISMO8SqgMAD&usg=AFQjCNFwak52P0FClDB2M4XeYRy4X0Vseg&sig2=xjJrI-zJS26YVTz8QNqe9Q



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Modified: Ibos on this thread are only fighting a lost battle. Give it up already.

JANK23H:
He is and from Nembe.

I understand what he means when he says he isn't Ijaw.We understand what we mean.

Alabo7978:

funny enough you don't even know that the ijoh's see us as brothers.
in their own oral tradition, ijo who is to them as ujo was the first son to oduduwa who both migrated from the Nile basin around Egypt.
ijo had a personal juju named Adum, the yorubas knew that juju as adumu.

Igboid:
See where he was claiming Ijaw. Shamelessly using "We" to refer to himself as an Ijaw man.

Yoruba race is a very ......... one by nature.

Tuo ndi a egwu. Chukwu aju! How can we share a country with these people?
Imagine this Afonja have been here convulsing for days on top matter that has nothing to do with him.
All he cares about is to make things hard for Ndiigbo.

Igboid:
He isn't.
He clearly stated that he is an Oduduwa child.

And I am beginning to suspect you might be one too.

Igboid:
He isn't.
He clearly stated that he is an Oduduwa child.

And I am beginning to suspect you might be one too.

JANK23H:
No he is.

Nembe/Brass and some Kalabaris see themselves as superiors to other Ijaw clans,and to spite sometimes they identify themselves by their clans instead.

If you take that too seriously and you attack some other Ijaws,then they'll show you they are Ijaws.

Other clans regard them as arrogant and full of themselves.

Ekealterego:
LOL. They always shoot theirself on the foot.
I knew their writing style was fairly better than what the Ijaws here could muster. You could tell the difference. Yet they were struggling so badly.

The other one ROBWhatever, was caught, he had claimed Bayelsa, Opobo and Bonny in the space of a few day.

It is a shame no ijaw man can come up with one document for days now.. They even had to employ mercenaries.

9Pluto:
Maybe because they are not really ijaw according to this map. What do you think?

Ekealterego:
Bruv, that's Roger Blench's book written from year 2010-2020.

Go and dig up history books, just like we did.

Our oldest snippet was 1906 and we even used it very sparringly to make another point.... Go deeper in 200 years like we have done.

9Pluto:
Error!!! The oldest account here is 1800

JANK23H:
No he is.

Nembe/Brass and some Kalabaris see themselves as superiors to other Ijaw clans,and to spite sometimes they identify themselves by their clans instead.

If you take that too seriously and you attack some other Ijaws,then they'll show you they are Ijaws.

Other clans regard them as arrogant and full of themselves.

9Pluto:
okay. So you which of the ijaw are you so we can remind you when you forget?