Sakamaje:


I never claimed to be an atheist. I am actually an agnostic. Meaning that I am not ashamed nor afraid to declare that I don't have enough facts to prove whether or not there's a God. Agnosticism isn't a religion bro.

Christians n religious people view atheist or agnostic as same, if u don't follow their religion u are doom to them.

VaselineCrew:
Look at this video from this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6879395/man-accused-turning-students-yams

Not one person among the whole crowd could even speak up and ask logical questions, like how did he turn children into yam.

So you are telling me these are the people that will choose leaders for the few Nigerians that want the best for the country?

Do these guys even understand issues that need fixing? I’m sure when you mention things like needing a society with closed gutters instead of open gutters everywhere, one were danfo is punished for running red traffic lights at will, supply of water to homes and so on..., these ones will just be looking at you like “what is this one even saying?”

We have such a long way to go.

Great and sincere leadership at all levels can do wonders for us, but people like this make it almost impossible to get leaders that will tackle the issues.

These are the ones that awon Tinubu, Atiku dem will just share rice to and they believe it’s magic rice that will last 4 years. These are the ones that would never vote outside their tribe, even if their tribe presents the devil and the other tribe presents an Angel capable of making the society great and uplifting their lives in the process.

It’s already 2021!!! If we were still in 1950 or so, maybe I could understand, but now we have electric cars, the internet, smartphones, people going to space, movies with mind blowing budgets like the Avengers... yet, it seems Nigeria is halted even while having access to all these things.

May God save us from ourselves!

The vote of a person that belives the Nigeria president is cloned or it's El-Sudani in disguise will cancel that if the person who knows it's balderdash

hopefulLandlord:
if you believe Aaron's rod turned to snake and the Egyptian magicians rods did the same but got swallowed by Aaron's own then you can believe kids can be turned into yam

Lol.

Sakamaje:


Then you are no different guy. Sorry to say. Anyone that believes the Jesus of the Bible and other fables contained in that text, is no different from those that tried to lynch the guy. The Bible contains too many lies and fables that people are forced to believe, even though they can't prove that those things really happened. The moment you accept those fables without proof or question, you can also become a part of a mob. That's why Christians are generally very hypocritical and judgemental. Because they've been brainwashed into believing all manner of crazy things, and would even justify crimes their god committed in the bible. You can't be a Christian that believes in and justifies a god that commits genocide, and then condemn lynch mobs. That would be hypocritical.

So much assumptions and lies in a single post. Yet you claimed the other is believing a lie.

How you manufactured and believed all the lies you wrote above is beyond me. I don't know why most of you lot find it hard to stay on terrain you know. You prefer to drag keys with house owners when you don't even know where the doors are.

Very sad.

Zooposki:


Religions like Christianity, Islam takes away your spirituality. That is why there is so much discrimination and hypocrisy in all the religions.

Jesus Christ came with the white missionaries to subjugate and take away your rights, lands, freedom etc.

Allah came with their jihad to conquer. No religious person will ever make it to “heaven”, because they will carry along all the ills of Religion.

Another wrongly taught fella who has refused to read properly what he was taught.

I hope you aren't bold when writing the above. It's all fallacy you wrote up there.

Sakamaje:


Definitely, Christianity was created as a weapon of control. Think about it. To be a Christian you must believe that the biblical texts are 'infallible'. That means you are encouraged not to question its chronology, historical references, teachings, etc. That poses a big problem for any rational mind. The religion also encourages the idea that 'inspiration' is a valid source of knowledge, which is used to justify the veracity of the events of the teachings in the biblical texts.

Meaning that, as a 'true' Christian, you have to accept that a person can gain authentic and true knowledge by way of visions and 'spiritual experiences' and whatnot, without any means of verifying independently or questioning the validity or veracity of their visions (because doing so would imply that you are questioning the God that inspires such visions); you just have to believe, as a demonstration of unquestioning 'faith'.

That right there is a basis and justification for brainwashing. So you must accept without question that a 'holy spirit' 'inspired' the apostles and the prophets of the bible to write the bible. Your only evidence of the veracity of their writings is your willingness to just 'believe', by 'faith'. The moment you actually start to ask questions and investigate the veracity of the biblical accounts, you begin to understand the damage inherent in that concept of 'accepting by faith'.

It literally forces you to accept a lie and keep believing it, even after you've proved that it is a lie. Anyone that goes on believing a lie in the name of 'faith' will do, rationalize, and justify anything in the name of 'faith'. Such a mind loses its capacity for independence of thought, and is capable of anything.

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What are you writing sef Bro. Do you read your text when you write them finish? You being exposed to false doctrine doesn't mean everyone holds the same. All you wrote above are absolute lies you were told. But the problem here is the fact that you believed it and hold it to influence your conviction.

What makes you different now from the ones you are pointing fingers to (those who hold believe as you stated above) . You both believed a lie, but influenced by it in opposite direction.
Please speak on what you know about ot what you were sold.

kingxsamz:


That's why I find it funny that a lot of Christians are being rational and making logical points on this "yam" issue. I'm sure most of the people in that crowd are Christians, with a lot of Muslims of course. Religion fuels the belief that there are "dark powers" and people with special abilities to cause harm. So It's funny seeing a Christian who believes that a man divided the red sea with an ordinary stick approaching this issue from a logical point of view.

You were there to take this statistics, right? If we say you lot are untrained psychologists now, they will say we are abusive. Aren't you doing as one now?

kingxsamz:


No one said lack of belief stops you from making irrational decisions. The OP is only pointing out the hypocrisy in those who uphold these beliefs. You can't be against genocide but support the one in your bible.

I thought you said you read wide. Your statement here showed you haven't read beyond 1980s. You have a long way to go to be able to comment accurately on such ancient book. It's obvious in your comments. Why not stay low to learn better.

Techguy96:

Where in my write up did I say Jesus was a bad person. I'm talking about Christianity as a whole n all religion inclusive. Besides if u are talking about good morals n behavior other religion present that too. But if u choose to believe I snake can talk then a human can turn into a yam. It's as simple as that.

Where did you see a snake talking Sir? What are you reading and how do you actually read?

hupernikao:


I thought you said you read wide. Your statement here showed you haven't read beyond 1980s. You have a long way to go to be able to comment accurately on such ancient book. It's obvious in your comments. Why not stay low to learn better.

Is there a point you're trying to make? If so, let us know because I don't understand the gibberish you're typing. Are you saying there's no genocide carried out in your bible or what?

hupernikao:


You were there to take this statistics, right? If we say you lot are untrained psychologists now, they will say we are abusive. Aren't you doing as one now?

Oh, I see, you've come to rant. Well go on and shed your tears here, everyone's watching.

kingxsamz:


Oh, I see, you've come to rant. Well go on and shed your tears here, everyone's watching.

Is that the best answer you got? What makes you different from those you abuse. If you can concort together statistics like a babalawo without any proof. Aren't you worse that those you opposed.

So much of rational thinking. Epèlé.

kingxsamz:


Is there a point you're trying to make? If so, let us know because I don't understand the gibberish you're typing. Are you saying there's no genocide carried out in your bible or what?

Who are the "us". Are they many in you? It was your statement not "us" statement. And I asked you have you read beyond 1980s because your knowledge of ancient book seems very poor.

hupernikao:


Is that the best answer you got? What makes you different from those you abuse. If you can concort together statistics like a babalawo without any proof. Aren't you worse that those you opposed.

So much of rational thinking. Epèlé.

Like I said, keep crying.

hupernikao:


Who are the "us". Are they many in you? It was your statement not "us" statement. And I asked you have you read beyond 1980s because your knowledge of ancient book seems very poor.

When you're done ranting and ready to make your point, let us know.

kingxsamz:


When you're done ranting and ready to make your point, let us know.

I am asking you a question. Is it hard for you to answer ni.

Have you read history beyond 1980s? Your write up is saying otherwise. Let's start from there.

kingxsamz:


Like I said, keep crying.

So you have monopoly of babalawoish. To conjure values and send here. You can't give your proof? Oga ju.

hupernikao:


Where did you see a snake talking Sir? What are you reading and how do you actually read?

What about the unicorn n talking donkey?
Na only snake u see for my write up, don't try to play smart with me.

Besides the bible said a serpent (snake) deceived eve.

How can a snake deceived a human being.

hupernikao:




So you have monopoly of babalawoish. To conjure values and send here. You can't give your proof? Oga ju.

Only you understands the gibberish you're typing here. Like I said, keep ranting.

Techguy96:

What about the unicorn n talking donkey?
Na only snake u see for my write up, don't try to play smart with me.

Besides the bible said a serpent (snake) deceived eve.

How can a snake deceived a human being.

Is this how you read your books Sir? When you read animal farm (if you have read it before), was this how you understood it? How will you feel if someone write here that "how can George Orwell says, animal is talking?"

Most times we lose our basic knowledge of reading when it is the Bible yet we blame its believer for such fault too. Aren't you doing the same now. Reading a literature like someone watching movies?

So, Bro go back and reread well or take classes to be taught well before engaging in criticism. That's how things are done.

kingxsamz:


When you're done ranting and ready to make your point, let us know.

Point for you? You already made your point as someone who doesn't understand the terrain he chose to ply. Please start reading beyond the 90s it will help you.

hupernikao:


Is this how you read your books Sir? When you read animal farm (if you have read it before), was this how you understood it? How will you feel if someone write here that "how can George Orwell says, animal is talking?"

Most times we lose our basic knowledge of reading when it is the Bible yet we blame its believer for such fault too. Aren't you doing the same now. Reading a literature like someone watching movies?

So, Bro go back and reread well or take classes to be taught well before engaging in criticism. That's how things are done.

So the bible is now a literature, interesting.

So how would you explain the talking donkey in the bible?

Techguy96:

So the bible is now a literature, interesting.

So how would you explain the talking donkey in the bible?

Leave the cherry picking. It doesn't give knowledge. Address the basic issue you have first. Ability to read and interpret Bible the way its written and for the purpose it's written.

So far this is missing, all other things will only be mirage.

Start first with understanding what a literature is.

What is a literature? It is something written.

The Bible you know was a written document, I hope you know? Hence it falls within the context of literature. Hence according to the Bible testimony, we can now call it inspired literature. So don't mix it up.


How does this help in Bible understanding

1. Your understanding and interpretation of it must not be drawn outside the rule of literature.

2. It must obey the culture, usage of words, language and tradition of the prevalent literature of its time.

The 2 above are fundamental flaws clear in your understanding of the Bible.


So, now you will need to pick the Bible again and start using the knowledge of a good reader to read it. Even if you don't believe in what it said, at least you owe yourself a duty not to misinterpret it. That is what is called honesty.

hupernikao:


Is this how you read your books Sir? When you read animal farm (if you have read it before), was this how you understood it? How will you feel if someone write here that "how can George Orwell says, animal is talking?"

Most times we lose our basic knowledge of reading when it is the Bible yet we blame its believer for such fault too. Aren't you doing the same now. Reading a literature like someone watching movies?

So, Bro go back and reread well or take classes to be taught well before engaging in criticism. That's how things are done.

How do u read the bible if I may ask, literally or figuratively?

No one will read animal farm and take it literally but figuratively, we know George Orwell wasn't really talking about animals but human beings and how they can be corrupt by power.

In the bible it was claim that balam donkey talk because he saw an angel, how else would you interpret that.

You seem to be the confused person here if u don't know when a book is literally or figurative.

The bible that is claim to be the word of God yet so confusing n self contradicting. If you are been truthful with yourself u will agree is not a clear written explanatory book but a book of myth, fairytale n fables.

hupernikao:


Leave the cherry picking. It doesn't give knowledge. Address the basic issue you have first. Ability to read and interpret Bible the way its written and for the purpose it's written.

So far this is missing, all other things will only be mirage.

Start first with understanding what a literature is.

What is a literature? It is something written.

The Bible you know was a written document, I hope you know? Hence it falls within the context of literature. Hence according to the Bible testimony, we can now call it inspired literature. So don't mix it up.


How does this help in Bible understanding

1. Your understanding and interpretation of it must not be drawn outside the rule of literature.

2. It must obey the culture, usage of words, language and tradition of the prevalent literature of its time.

The 2 above are fundamental flaws clear in your understanding of the Bible.


So, now you will need to pick the Bible again and start using the knowledge of a good reader to read it. Even if you don't believe in what it said, at least you owe yourself a duty not to misinterpret it. That is what is called honesty.

Lol, you are trying to play smart with me. But honestly you end up writing nothing.
If u really want to engage in a discussion with me, we will pick parts of the bible and analyse them.

What u wrote up here is pure trash.

hupernikao:


Where did you see a snake talking Sir? What are you reading and how do you actually read?

You don't even know your Bible, you are just carrying around and maybe putting under your pillow.

Which animal spoke to Eve and convinced her to eat the forbidden fruit? 20 marks

Techguy96:

How do u read the bible if I may ask, literally or figuratively?

No one will read animal farm and take it literally but figuratively, we know George Orwell wasn't really talking about animals but human beings and how they can be corrupt by power.

In the bible it was claim that balam donkey talk because he saw an angel, how else would you interpret that.

You seem to be the confused person here if u don't know when a book is literally or figurative.

The bible that is claim to be the word of God yet so confusing n self contradicting. If you are been truthful with yourself u will agree is not a clear written explanatory book but a book of myth, fairytale n fables.

You will need to calm down and step down from that professorial seat you assumed. This is the only way you will learn. It's obvious you need this.

I just pointed to you that you must obey all literature rules yet you are cherry picking still. This is why you see contradiction.


Every literature writing has usage of literal and figurative expression. It's left to you to understand this and where it is used. There is no book that will be called figurative and no book that is called literal. A good student of literature will let you know that figurative is not only when you use figure but also expressions.

For example. If I say
His older brother, the one with six kids, will be visiting next week.

This is a figure of speech called Parentheses Something that is added to a statement to provide extra information or an explanation. This is often separated from the main clause by brackets, commas, or dashes.

Source: www.theidioms.com

But I am sure, you may likely not have seen that as one.


So, you need to calm down and have a proper discussion to help your reading.


The contradiction you see are in your reading eyes. You haven't read well Sir. This is what I want you to see.

For example, you are seeing talking snake, that means you have a wrong understanding of how it's read. And if you have this issue with the beginning (Genesis) what do you think will happen all through your bible interpretation.

The story of the Bible was built upon Genesis stories, so if the foundation is not well known, you will be seeing contradiction in all.

Ovamboland:


You don't even know your Bible, you are just carrying around and maybe putting under your pillow.

Which animal spoke to Eve and convinced her to eat the forbidden fruit? 20 marks

E Pèlé Sir.

Is this how you read in the exam?
How many snakes have you spoken to lately Sir. Maybe you can try one today and give feedback here.

You will better do well to unlearn all those falsehood in your mind. Your disposition today seems to be based on wrong and false information. And you are proud in such heritage.

Even with all advancement of knowledge, I still wonder that a millennia will read such stories and still interpret it as a snake talking. What exactly do most learn in their secondary school age.

Bro, please go and pick a class in literature and reading comprehension.

Techguy96:

Lol, you are trying to play smart with me. But honestly you end up writing nothing.
If u really want to engage in a discussion with me, we will pick parts of the bible and analyse them.

What u wrote up here is pure trash.

How do I analyze Bible with you when you don't actually know how to read properly. You will only be arguing. This is what need to be corrected first.

You are seeing plain text like vision, and your interpretation is like one who is watching movies and retelling the scene.

So, let's start from that, that's when we can move to a proper point of examining the scripture. Hope you are ready to learn.

hupernikao:


Point for you? You already made your point as someone who doesn't understand the terrain he chose to ply. Please start reading beyond the 90s it will help you.

Oh, you're still crying?
I already forgot about you. Don't worry you can move on now.