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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:50pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
sanpipita:Now that you bring up subpoenas. Only democrat Pelosi can initiate a bipartisan investigation. The committee should have 13 members. Eight from the majority and five from the minority . Pelosi refuses the five proposed by Republican minority leader McCarthy and instead appoints two Never Trumpers to the Jan 6 commission. The kangaroo Mark Meadows sued and watch this space. Pelosi Jan 6 commission is illegal. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 5:51pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
basilico:could be a joke, he could be speaking truth through a joke... but what he is saying have also happened before |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 6:10pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
basilico: Ibime:basilico isa apprentic donkey wita empty skullss.. he isa nat undastands what alajigambojimeta isa posta as he isa dunce |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 6:13pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Why Dead Voters Won't Tip the Presidential Election Officials say there are safeguards against using the identifies of dead voters, and it can't happen on a scale needed to influence the presidency. 2016 Election While Donald Trump has raised the specter of voter fraud involving the identities of dead voters on Nov. 8, elections experts say such fears are based in more fantasy than fact. "It is possible to have some votes stolen in this way, but it’s not possible to be done on a wide scale,” said Dick Simpson, a University of Illinois-Chicago political science professor, who said there are many safeguards in place to prevent such fraud. And Simpson would know — he's also a former Chicago alderman. "The voting process is decentralized from state to state,” he said. “There’s no one button you can push to rig an election” and have thousands of votes be cast by dead people. Kristen Clarke, of the Lawyers' Committee For Civil Rights Under Law, agreed. "Many polling sites are presided over by officials who come from the two prevailing parties,” she said. "So there are all kinds of safeguards built into the system making this kind of scenario a virtual impossibility." Trailing in the polls, Trump at a campaign stop on Monday in Wisconsin claimed there are 1.8 million deceased individuals listed as voters, and he said: "I have a feeling they're not gonna vote for me. Of the 1.8 million, 1.8 million is voting for somebody else." Trump appeared to be cribbing from a 2012 Pew study which found that up to 1.8 million active voter registrations belonged to dead people, but also found no evidence that any fraudulent votes had been cast. The election officials interviewed by NBC News also could not recall a single instance of a vote being cast by somebody using the registration of a deceased voter. They said the voter rolls are constantly being updated and cross-checked against obituaries and death notices from state health officials. Simpson said in the past it was easier to sway an election by pulling stunts like stuffing ballot boxes with bogus ballots. Chicago, after all, is where Mayor Richard J. Daley’s powerful political machine found enough Democratic votes to put John F. Kennedy over the top in the 1960 presidential election — prompting accusations of ballot box stuffing by supporters of Richard Nixon and the Republicans. But Hillary Clinton, who is from the Chicago suburb of Park Ridge in the blue state of Illinois, is not going to lose to Trump on her home turf, said Simpson. And it’s a lot harder for the dead to vote in Chicago these days. "Each voter now receives a postcard at their home address," he said. "If that’s not turned in at the polling place, the name is cleared from the voter rolls. We may still have the occasional dead person on the voter rolls, but not tens of thousands. And they would still have to turn in their postcard.” The most common way of vote stealing still practiced in the city of Chicago involves absentee ballots, said Simpson. "In this scheme, the precinct captain collects absentee ballots from nursing homes and votes for them," said Simpson. "It happens, but it doesn’t happen a lot. Again, the numbers of votes likely to be stolen is in the hundreds, not in the tens of thousands." Similar safeguards are also in place in the must-win for Trump state of Iowa. "There are multiple ways Iowans who have passed away are removed from the voter rolls," said Kevin Hall, spokesman for Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate. "When the Secretary of State’s Office receives official notification from the Iowa Department of Public Health of someone passing away, that person is removed.” "County auditors also receive official notifications from the county recorders," he said. Those auditors also comb through the obituaries "on a daily basis as well." "We also remove deceased voters when receiving official notification from family members," he said. Related: Election Officials Say 'Rigged' Election Unlikely So when was the last time Iowa got a report of a dead person casting a vote? "During the 20 months of Secretary Pate’s administration, which started in January 2015, we have no reports of anyone impersonating a deceased Iowan casting a ballot," Hall said. It was a similar story in Massachusetts, another state Trump is unlikely to win. "We notify the cities and towns just before the election," said Brian McNiff of the Massachusetts Secretary of the Commonwealth office. "We provide them with the death list, which is developed by the state department of public health, of people who have died and who were residents of Massachusetts. So that is one check they have on deceased registered voters.” Asked if he could think of an incident where a vote was cast by a dead voter, McNiff said, "No, I really can’t." https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-presidential-debates/why-dead-voters-won-t-tip-presidential-election-n668386 Dole isa well knowns joker. he isa forget ta jokes abut Iowa andi massacusetts kikikikikiki basilico ah turn it ta big deals |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:16pm On Dec 13, 2021*. Modified: 6:45pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
basilico:Mumu, how won't one of two dead people vote when you have nutcases like the below. You say Quantity insignificant. See how Trump manipulated a grown mans brain. No longer looking for material malpractice which none of your audits could uncover, you want to cancel millions.of ballots just because you find one lunatic stealing his relatives ID to vote. Isn't this emotional manipulation by your cult leader? Material facts are no longer relevant, to satisfy his lies, you are happy pointing to a handful of voter fraud which is immaterial as justification for your supreme leaders lies I don't think any election will hold in this world again by the standards of reasoning you despicable cultist cockroaches have been reduced to. You should go and hug the tree whose sole purpose is replacing the oxygen you are wasting on this earth. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/nevada-voter-fraud-donald-trump-b1944206.html
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 6:18pm On Dec 13, 2021*. Modified: 6:36pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:40pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
benalvino3:Manipulators use insignificant anecdotes to build evidence for stüpid people. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 6:41pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Ibime:https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/12/21/pennsylvania-man-charged-with-voter-fraud-for-casting-ballot-for-trump-under-dead-mothers-name/?sh=6def6c9d59bf https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/another-gop-voter-accused-casting-ballot-dead-relative-n1272241 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/republican-official-ohio-faces-charge-voting-twice-november-election-n1271985 |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:43pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
chopnaira:If there is any material voter fraud in the next election, it's likely to be from Trumpanzees trying to "even the score", thinking their fellow citizens are cheating |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 6:48pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Ibime:try not to get too far ahead of yourself. the dead man made a comment, joke, humor whatever you call it about dead people voting. initially, you shrugged that off as impossible, then you saw that he really said so and changed to humor. Yes, it could be humor. also, it could be true. And people who have died have voted. whether it is enough to flip election or not is entirely another discussion. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:06pm On Dec 13, 2021*. Modified: 7:29pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
benalvino3:The dead man was making a cultural joke, harking back to election malpractice in Chicago during the days of AlCapone.and the Chicago gangsters. It's been a joke in America for decades. The way he skillfully meshed it with recent events was humorous. It's not a joke you would expect an Umudike Customs Officer whose brain is only focussed on his next source of egunje to understand. The dead man has already given his thoughts on the farce of Trumpanzee claims in the 2020 election which the fantastically corrupt Customs Officer tried to tie his joke to.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:10pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Ibime:In other words. No fraud Its all a big lie. Confirm please that there was no fraud at all Was the most secure election ever. Tha confirmation shalt be revisited mate, months down the line. Hopefully. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:16pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
basilico:How many years, audits, fraudits, lawsuits and DOJ investigations do you need. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:17pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Ibime:all are possible. Like I said, first you didn't believe it, then it was a joke when you saw it. it is okay not to believe it at first and it's still okay if you think it is a joke which is also possible or true. no issues here. everything or claim we are making is not far-fetched. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:22pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Ibime:Always remember. I always get vindicated. On this one matter, I hereby declare: As sure as the sun rises in the East and sets in the west, And as sure as we shall all die, the fraud that took place shall be proven. With that I shalt take a break on the fraud matters . |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 7:43pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
benalvino3:Nothing is possible. Even if half of Chicago refuse to show up on election day, the State will still be blue. Which fool will commit fraud there. Chicago was notorious for voter fraud in the first half of the 20th century in their local elections which AlCapone and co used to rig for their own interest. That's the context and origin of that joke, simple. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:03pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Ibime:that's not the point we are making. the point, the main point is that dead people voted. chichi is blue, New York is blue. also, dead people have voted. so, we are all saying a true statement. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:07pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
basilico:You are talking to buda who is far too busy waking the dead all over the world to come vote in the next election. https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/10/27/2-investigators-chicago-voters-cast-ballots-from-beyond-the-grave/
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 8:12pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 8:13pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by chopnaira: 8:15pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
basilico:ya ah turn ah culturals old jokes ta big issue likey da customs officer funny guys kikikiki |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 8:22pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:23pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
PM Johnson says the first UK death has been recorded "with" the #Omicron variant. No further details, yet. probably someone with serious health conditions |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:42pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Time for unvaccinated passport CDC: 80% of Omicron cases found in the fully vaccinated, a third of them had received a booster dosethe vaccine is not effective but they keep saying take the booster. when will this become crazy? |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:26pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
Chauvin expected to plead guilty in Floyd civil rights case https://apnews.com/article/death-of-george-floyd-george-floyd-minneapolis-thomas-lane-tou-thao-350b8fd8c7013e631c81ab4c19ec259e Former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin appears to be on the verge of pleading guilty to violating George Floyd ’s civil rights, according to a notice sent out Monday by the court’s electronic filing system. The federal docket entry shows a hearing has been scheduled for Wednesday for Chauvin to change his current not guilty plea in the case. These types of notices indicate a defendant is planning to plead guilty. The court system also sent out instructions for media to attend the hearing.
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 10:50pm On Dec 13, 2021 |
basilico:---Nothing will come out of this because Mark Meadows is just grandstanding---he is very much involved in the Jan 6 plans--- https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/12/meadows-jan-6-national-guard-trump-524133 Meadows Jan. 5 email indicated Guard on standby to ‘protect pro Trump people,’ investigators say Mark Meadows indicated in a Jan. 5 email that the National Guard was on standby to “protect pro Trump people,” according to documents obtained by the House committee investigating the Capitol riot, which the panel described in a public filing Sunday night. The context for the message is unclear, but it comes amid intense scrutiny of the Guard’s slow response to violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 and conflicting timelines about their efforts from the Pentagon and National Guard leadership. The nine-member panel released a 51-page report Sunday evening that details its questions about the thousands of emails and texts he has already provided — including 6,600 pages of records taken from personal email accounts and about 2,000 text messages. The committee is recommending the contempt charges after Meadows ceased cooperating and did not show up for a deposition last week. https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IJ/IJ00/20211213/114313/HRPT-117-NA.pdf
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| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 12:31am On Dec 14, 2021 |
benalvino3:That's viral infection - just take your vaccine and booster up when due. Nothing is written in stone - you just protect yourself with vaccine and hope for the best to weather the storm. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:15am On Dec 14, 2021 |
benalvino3:Australia doesn't allow unvaccinated travellers in or out. How did omicron make its way in? Vaccines dont prevent transmission so I guess we shall have boosters till the 24 greek alphabet letters for variants runs out. I might guess that the vaccines work, we have bern told that all cases of the omicron are mild.Maybe its the antibodies from the gene vaccines that are helping. Again no studies released. UK did not say that the first omicron death was from the virus solely or the person had the virus and died from other causes. The government has largely succeeded in micromanaging doctors.. Doctors always give the best treatment to patients that they can From their knowledge or consultations with their peers. Not so with COVID-19. Gov or bureaucrats have recommended drugs that are not to be used.Drugs safe that have never caused any side effects .Govt dictating treatment or prescription is an overreach. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:36am On Dec 14, 2021 |
feedthenation:Is this not a sham. They have the accusations. first.Next they dig up hundreds of thousands of documents looking for that evidence. At this time I feel America is lost. Dissenters are pursued right left centre. A civil war is not a practical impossibility in the future. Bitcoin value is virtually guaranteed now. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Banchotmods: 6:39am On Dec 14, 2021 |
basilico:Ibime isa stack all the chloroquine ![]() |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 7:46am On Dec 14, 2021 |
Biden Says U.S. Casualties During Afghanistan Withdrawal Disaster Were Inevitable. The length at which this idiots go knows no boundaries. |
| Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Laurene: 8:30am On Dec 14, 2021 |
This Jan 6 panel looks like a sham. I don't think anything comes out of it. |
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