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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 9:24pm On Dec 16, 2021
LordReed:
LMFAO! How is it my problem if you think your bible is not straightforward. You are basically telling me that whatsoever doesn't mean whatsoever so your god's words don't mean what they say, they mean what you say, in effect making your god a liar. Not my problem buddy. Bwahahahahahaha!
Again you are wrong. I am basically telling you that you are in no way equipped to spiritually decipher anything the Bible says because the same Bible says in James 1:5-8

5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

You are in that category of a man who is unstable in ALL your ways because you are double minded. Surely the revelation in the word of God is not for your kind. To you it is like a story book and death but to the spiritual it is life.

Trying to laugh it off wouldn't help you because you are sorely ill equipped in every way.

I am waiting for your response to the assignment I gave you
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 9:26pm On Dec 16, 2021
LordReed:
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole;(W) anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake(X) and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

Or does anyone not mean anyone as well? LMFAO!
This was not what I asked from you.

Finish the assignment before I expose your serious inadequacy when it comes to scriptures
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 9:28pm On Dec 16, 2021
Tetehjewels:
Again you are wrong. I am basically telling you that you are in no way equipped to spiritually decipher anything the Bible says because the same Bible says in James 1:5-8

5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

You are in that category of a man who is unstable in ALL your ways because you are double minded. Surely the revelation in the word of God is not for your kind. To you it is like a story book and death but to the spiritual it is life.

Trying to laugh it off wouldn't help you because you are sorely ill equipped in every way.

I am waiting for your response to the assignment I gave you
Dude, not my problem. Its not my job to interpret your bible. He asked a question I provided answers. If you want to say your god is a shifty character that's on you not me. LMFAO!
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 9:29pm On Dec 16, 2021
Tetehjewels:
This was not what I asked from you.

Finish the assignment before I expose your serious inadequacy when it comes to scriptures
Oh bosh. Go and answer the questions I directed at you. You have the gall to demand answers from me, you must be on a long thing. LMFAO!
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 9:31pm On Dec 16, 2021
LordReed:
Dude, not my problem. Its not my job to interpret your bible. he asked a question I provided answers. If you want to say your god is a shifty character that's on you not me. LMFAO!
It is not your job to interpret scriptures yet you were so sure of the ones you posted earlier.

How then did you manage to interpret those ones since suddenly it is now not your job to do so.

Are you giving up and admitting that you are indeed not equipped to neither understand nor interpret scripture?

God is not shifty. You are the one being shifty so far and lacking the ability to reply a straight assignment
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 9:32pm On Dec 16, 2021
LordReed:
Oh bosh. Go and answer the questions I directed at you. You have the gall to demand answers from me, you must be on a long thing. LMFAO!
Running away all of a sudden? Clearly you do not seek knowledge or understanding. You only seek to argue blindly without assimilating anything in the process
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:01pm On Dec 16, 2021
Tetehjewels:
It is not your job to interpret scriptures yet you were so sure of the ones you posted earlier.

How then did you manage to interpret those ones since suddenly it is now not your job to do so.

Are you giving up and admitting that you are indeed not equipped to neither understand nor interpret scripture?

God is not shifty. You are the one being shifty so far and lacking the ability to reply a straight assignment
I didn't interpret what I posted. I posted direct copies of bible text with no editorialising. If you decide that your god's words need to be editorialised in other to make sense to you that is your cup of tea. Just realise every time you do that you make your god sound like a dumbarse. That one is not my fault. LMFAO!
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:03pm On Dec 16, 2021
Tetehjewels:
Running away all of a sudden? Clearly you do not seek knowledge or understanding. You only seek to argue blindly without assimilating anything in the process
LMFAO! Oh now you know not answering questions is running away right but you refused to answer mine but you want to demand answers from me. What a laugh. Bwahahahahahahaha!
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 10:08pm On Dec 16, 2021
LordReed:
I didn't interpret what I posted. I posted direct copies of bible text with no editorialising. If you decide that your god's words need to be editorialised in other to make sense to you that is your cup of tea. Just realise every time you do that you make your god sound like a dumbarse. That one is not my fault. LMFAO!
Typical of an atheist. When cornered you start throwing subs and laughing with every comment you make just to cover up for your embarrassment.

You keep muddling things for yourself.

Now you say you just posted the scripture as you saw it without editing yet you also said it's not your job to interpret scripture.

Are you then saying you posted foolishly because surely everyone knows the scriptures are given by God and are foolishness to your kind. This means it would make absolutely no sense to you. Knowing this, why then did you choose to still go ahead to post foolishly?

Finish the very little assignment I gave you. At least even you would use that to test out just how well you know your Bible. Go ahead
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:21pm On Dec 16, 2021
Tetehjewels:
Typical of an atheist. When cornered you start throwing subs and laughing with every comment you make just to cover up for your embarrassment.

You keep muddling things for yourself.

Now you say you just posted the scripture as you saw it without editing yet you also said it's not your job to interpret scripture.

Are you then saying you posted foolishly because surely everyone knows the scriptures are given by God and are foolishness to your kind. This means it would make absolutely no sense to you. Knowing this, why then did you choose to still go ahead to post foolishly?

Finish the very little assignment I gave you. At least even you would use that to test out just how well you know your Bible. Go ahead
LMFAO! Bible editor, weh done sir!

No, I am not answering your "assignment" now sue me. LMFAO!

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 10:24pm On Dec 16, 2021
LordReed:
LMFAO! Bible editor, weh done sir!

No, I am not answering your "assignment" now sue me. LMFAO!
He has given up since he knows he knows nothing about Scripture beyond copy and paste.

Imagine arguing the Bible with someone who has zero knowledge of the Bible.

Na wa o. The desperation of atheists is on another level. They will even throw their own foolishness into an argument and claim that it is a point cheesy
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 10:50pm On Dec 16, 2021
Tetehjewels:
He has given up since he knows he knows nothing about Scripture beyond copy and paste.

Imagine arguing the Bible with someone who has zero knowledge of the Bible.

Na wa o. The desperation of atheists is on another level. They will even throw their own foolishness into an argument and claim that it is a point cheesy
LMFAO! See me see projection. You are the one desperate to show how the bible doesn't mean what it says. Whatsoever doesn't mean whatsoever and anyone doesn't mean anyone. Bwahahahahahahaha!

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Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Corea4king(m): 11:17pm On Dec 16, 2021
LordReed

So you have your answer. You won't be here to see any changes


Humans have also been in existence for over million years now,how come there is no transformation yet.Although,all these things are theory from guessing work. It can never be fact and thats why I don't pay much attention to most scientific views especially one that is not Standard
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 1:10am On Dec 17, 2021
Corea4king:
LordReed

So you have your answer. You won't be here to see any changes


Humans have also been in existence for over million years now,how come there is no transformation yet.Although,all these things are theory from guessing work. It can never be fact and thats why I don't pay much attention to most scientific views especially one that is not Standard
Modern humans have only been around for 200,000years. You obviously don't know the meaning of theory as relates to science. There is no guesswork involved, it is firmly established with evidence not guesswork.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 2:45pm On Dec 17, 2021
That's the problem, you want something you can see, feel and touch.
By the way, one can also say there isn't any other planet except Earth just because he or she hasn't seen it, even though science has proved it. I could write it off as some photos hopped graphic evidence, and we all have been deceived for many years. And there'd be no way for you to prove me wrong. But of course it's true there are other planets.



The things you see, a blind man can't see. Does that make it unreal?

The things you can feel and a person with a medical condition which prevents him from feeling can't, doesn't make it unreal. It's his medical condition preventing him.




uvie66:
So where do you inhabit ? Mars, Jupiter or Saturn.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 2:56pm On Dec 17, 2021
This is inline with scriptures.
You can't just read it and it works within the blink of an eye.

Your will has to be involved, the bible calls it faith.

God most certainly wishes healing. But it can't be forced on a man. As there are cases where people don't desire that they be healed. God never functions outside the will of man in relation to man.

You believe, you receive.

Tetehjewels:
You just indicted yourself with these scriptures and supported image123.

He said it is based on ones personal position and convictions and his prayer of faith got him result because clearly he believed unlike your criteria.

Besides when scripture is applied wrongly it would fail. Not all sicknesses and diseases get healed especially when the one asking is doubtful or applying it wrongly.

You just killed your own argument
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:05pm On Dec 17, 2021
One thing you fail to note is that.
The book you quoted is Matthew by Matthew's Account.
You can't just pick one and conclude.

Follow the train of thoughts. Following the concluding statements. Corroborate, check how many times certain words were used. Check this, check that.

Then you know.

Even science agrees to these methods.
Matthew always laid emphasis on God's healing ability and desire, however, he did not also fail to note that one must have faith in such God for healing to take place. Which is an archetype of how Atheists cannot come to "see" the Existing God because they do not believe such can occur. That's the law of faith. You don't need to feel, see or hear something in alignment with your appealing desires before you have faith.
You just act.
LordReed:
LMFAO! So the god is a liar now. The god says whatsoever you pray for in no less than 3 places but sure some other scripture makes your god a liar. Bwahahahahaha! OMFD!
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:11pm On Dec 17, 2021
Good, anyone is anyone. Anyone means anyone.
But that's if anyone chooses to LOOK at the snake.

A person must choose to look at it. It can't be forced. You can't force anyone to look.
You must act by looking(having faith that upon looking you get healed as you've been told).

LordReed:
8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole;(W) anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake(X) and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

Or does anyone not mean anyone as well? LMFAO!
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:14pm On Dec 17, 2021
Okay. But why do atheists misconstrue the bible then. Picking out texts to further magnify their lack of understanding.
Since it's not your job. Ask those whose job you think it is to interpret it to you.
LordReed:
Dude, not my problem. Its not my job to interpret your bible. He asked a question I provided answers. If you want to say your god is a shifty character that's on you not me. LMFAO!
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:16pm On Dec 17, 2021
I agree.
Tetehjewels:
Running away all of a sudden? Clearly you do not seek knowledge or understanding. You only seek to argue blindly without assimilating anything in the process
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 3:24pm On Dec 17, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
Okay. But why do atheists misconstrue the bible then. Picking out texts to further magnify their lack of understanding.
Since it's not your job. Ask those whose job you think it is to interpret it to you.
How am I misconstruing the Bible by simply quoting the text? You guys who interpret it are the ones in a position to misconstrue it not someone simply quoting it.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 3:26pm On Dec 17, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
Good, anyone is anyone. Anyone means anyone.
But that's if anyone chooses to LOOK at the snake.

A person must choose to look at it. It can't be forced. You can't force anyone to look.
You must act by looking(having faith that upon looking you get healed as you've been told).
So? How does that tie into the conversation?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:30pm On Dec 17, 2021
It goes into the part where you were talking about "whatsoever" in the case of healing. And I'm letting you know faith is involved.
LordReed:
So? How does that tie into the conversation?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 3:30pm On Dec 17, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
One thing you fail to note is that.
The book you quoted is Matthew by Matthew's Account.
You can't just pick one and conclude.

Follow the train of thoughts. Following the concluding statements. Corroborate, check how many times certain words were used. Check this, check that.

Then you know.

Even science agrees to these methods.
Matthew always laid emphasis on God's healing ability and desire, however, he did not also fail to note that one must have faith in such God for healing to take place. Which is an archetype of how Atheists cannot come to "see" the Existing God because they do not believe such can occur. That's the law of faith. You don't need to feel, see or hear something in alignment with your appealing desires before you have faith.
You just act.
Read my post again, I quoted 4 separate texts from 2 different sources saying the same thing. If you feel that the words don't mean what they mean then that is on you not me, I fulfilled the basic premise of corroboration from your very own bible.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 3:32pm On Dec 17, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
It goes into the part where you were talking about "whatsoever" in the case of healing. And I'm letting you know faith is involved.
Again so? Did what I quote say faith wasn't involved. The question was not about faith but about what your god promised.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:33pm On Dec 17, 2021
You quote it challenging the sense in it as though you clearly understood it meant what you interpreted it as.
LordReed:
How am I misconstruing the Bible by simply quoting the text? You guys who interpret it are the ones in a position to misconstrue it not someone simply quoting it.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 3:35pm On Dec 17, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
You quote it challenging the sense in it as though you clearly understood it meant what you interpreted it as.
Why do I need to interpret what is clearly written? He asked did his god promise to heal all diseases and I quoted texts that say WHATSOEVER and here you guys come saying it doesn't mean what it says. How is that my problem?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:37pm On Dec 17, 2021
Yes God promised whatsoever, but you failed to understand it doesn't stop there. But that it has to be inline with his will.
You just built your argument on "Whatsoever"
Of course God promised whatsoever but you can't pray for someone's death and God grants that.

Even when it's his will, you have to believe to receive.
LordReed:
Again so? Did what I quote say faith wasn't involved. The question was not about faith but about what your god promised.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by Nobody: 3:43pm On Dec 17, 2021
There are methods of communication, linguistics and such.
There are parts of speech, figures of speech, irony, sarcasm.

Sarcasm for instance, do you need to interpret it when it is clearly said or written?
Why do I need to interpret what is clearly written?
LordReed:
Why do I need to interpret what is clearly written?


He asked did his god promise to heal all diseases and I quoted texts that say WHATSOEVER and here you guys come saying it doesn't mean what it says. How is that my problem?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 4:38pm On Dec 17, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
There are methods of communication, linguistics and such.
There are parts of speech, figures of speech, irony, sarcasm.

Sarcasm for instance, do you need to interpret it when it is clearly said or written?
Is the whatsoever in the text figure of speech, irony or sarcasm?
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by LordReed(m): 4:43pm On Dec 17, 2021
StJohnofChrist:
Yes God promised whatsoever, but you failed to understand it doesn't stop there. But that it has to be inline with his will.
You just built your argument on "Whatsoever"
Is it that you don't understand the question or what? He asked did his god promise to heal all diseases? How does saying you need faith now negate the fact that the text says WHATSOEVER? Are you saying all diseases are not included in the whatsoever?


Of course God promised whatsoever but you can't pray for someone's death and God grants that.

Even when it's his will, you have to believe to receive.
You should be telling Christians who pray for their enemies to die and believe that the god answers their prayer that not me.
Re: My 8 Year Old Son's Debate With A 7yr Old Atheist by jimmynauty: 6:11pm On Dec 17, 2021
LordReed:
What is there to dodge? Did the theory of evolution claim humans are going transform in another species in our lifetime or did we can even predict what transformations can occur?
So man is the crown of evolutionary standard?
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