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Meaning Of Christmas by Cordenify(m): 2:52am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 3:49am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Cordenify:Christmas is a pagan holiday ! |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 5:05am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I was thinking I should wish you a merry Christmas |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 5:17am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081:Merry Christmas to you too. I do too celebrate all pagan holidays, even those unknown to me. |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 7:43am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Thank you and God bless Kobojunkie: Oh, I see Actually thought you'd have no interest or concern about the holidays May I ask why you celebrate even though it's against your believe? |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 8:13am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081:The Holiday is not against my belief... no holiday is against my belief this because Jesus Christ did not bar His followers from celebrating any Holiday out there. Even if it is a sango festival, Halloween, 4th of July, Krishna, etc. No pagan Holiday is against my belief. We are free to celebrate any holiday we want to. |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 8:35am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Oh well I see Kobojunkie: Don't you think this is against God's commandment (I could use most treasured) of do now bow to any other god. And anything that is against God, Jesus won't support. The key word here is celebrate |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 8:52am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081: Jesus Christ's commandment to us is that we cannot serve two masters. Celebrating a holiday is not akin to serving another master. Or am I not understanding your meaning as far as celebrating is concerned correctly or something? |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 10:04am On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Probably When you celebrate you participate and observe duly
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Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 3:12pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081:When I celebrate, I ofcourse don't imply one has to participate in any associated religious rites. To celebrate,I means simply to partake in food and whine and enjoyment of the moment along with those who are pagans, this while never making the mistake of pretending my celebrating is in the name of Jesus Christ or to the glory and honor of God. |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 4:29pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I see I thought you'll be very picky about the types of holiday you celebrate because of your faith life |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 4:32pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081:Picky? To what end? |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 4:52pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I actually don't know I only wanted to know your view (at the same time having my thoughts) of festival/holidays |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 4:54pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081:God, in His infinite wisdom , saw absolutely no need to demand this pickiness of me, so it would be foolishness on my part to inflict such a restriction on my person where the one whose Faith it is I seek has not commanded it of me. The freedom I have to celebrate is because He broke the shackles and cages so that I could live this life abundantly, I am not about to put those shackles back on my person pretending I do so in honor of Him, whereas such act is instead Sin against Him. |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 5:24pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I'm a little surprised tho that you would celebrate a Sango festival. Even though your understanding of celebrate is quite different from what I think. Wouldn't a little yeast leaveneth the whole lump? Or of what benefit is it to you to celebrate a river goddess festival? |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 5:45pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081:1. As I said, so long as you do not partake in religious rites or serve another master in your celebrating, what command given you by Jesus Christ do you violation by eating and drinking with those who eat and drink on that day? Every single day was created by God, not Sango or any other pagan god out there, so why be afraid of celebrating any and everyday? 2. As for the statement in bold, Jesus Christ said that in reference to the doctrines and traditions, lies of men, which are an abomination to God. So long as you are in no way submitting yourself to the doctrines and teachings of men, you do not offend God by your choosing to celebrate even on pagan holidays. Again, even those days were made and decreed good by God from the beginning, so why not celebrate even then? 3. Let me use a better example here for you. I celebrate Christmas, however, I do not celebrate it as the birth of Jesus Christ nor as any Holiday linked with God in any way or form. It is simply a pagan holiday, like every other out there, of celebrating where I gather with family and friends to eat and be merry. It is sin against God to celebrate any Holiday in the name of Jesus Christ this since God never included instructions in His Covenant that stipulates we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ, or any other Holiday in His name. We dishonor God when we go against His Law. So, my celebrating Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ or the Kingdom of God. I simply celebrate a Holiday that is for me an opportunity to hang with friends and family is all. |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 6:12pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Oh I see now |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Kobojunkie: 6:16pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Ayo081:It is a sin to celebrate Christmas or any other Holiday for that matter in the name of God or pretending you do so to the glory of God or in His honor... this because God never commanded it of you to begin with. Also regarding what Jesus Christ said, "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump", if you have ever taken a logic course before, it implies something like the following rule... Truth + False == False. When you add a lie to even that which is true, the whole becomes a lie. That is what i believe He meant where the lie here refers to the doctrines and traditions of men which are an abomination where the Truth of God is concerned. |
Re: Meaning Of Christmas by Ayo081(m): 7:56pm On Dec 21, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Exactly And thanks for going to the extent of using logic to explain that, I never thought of it that way A better way for me to look at it is like so; true+false !== true 1 Like |
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