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Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 10:21am On Dec 24, 2021
NNTR:
The proto evangelium (i.e. Genesis 3:15)
- from portmanteau Greek word, 'protos' and 'evangelion[/i]', where protos meaning '[i]first' and evangelion means 'good news' or 'gospel'

Isaiah 59:16
He saw that there was no one, He was appalled that there was no one to intervene;
so His own arm achieved salvation for Him, and His own righteousness sustained Him.

I can give you more from where those two names from, but them two should suffice to sweeten you up enough, loll

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
What is this? Why do you people like taking texts out of context, how are you going to understand the full gist. ?

Read the whole of Isaiah 59 and stop being lazy.

And come back and tell me it is not talking about Isaiah himself.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by NNTR: 10:30am On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
Please quote old testament passages where God said he will send his son as a sacrifice to him. I will wait. I don't want conjectures or your opinion. Just show me the passages I will read them myself...

Thanks in advance
When God asked Abraham to sacrifice Issac to Him, what do you make out that?
Also what was Isaac being alluded to in that narrative?

sonmvayina:
What is this? Why do you people like taking texts out of context, how are you going to understand the full gist. ?

Read the whole of Isaiah 59 and stop being lazy.

And come back and tell me it is not talking about Isaiah himself.
Smh, you're green, wet behind the ears and just coming up, loll.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 10:54am On Dec 24, 2021
NNTR:
When God asked Abraham to sacrifice Issac to Him, what do you make out that?
Also what was Isaac being alluded to in that narrative?
It was one of 10 tests God gave to Abraham to prove he was worthy of the call. Nobody was sacrificed. God provided a ram.

Smh, you're green, wet behind the ears and just coming up, loll.



Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Meaning I am saying the truth.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 12:31pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
Basically salvation in the Christian religion is believing that God the Father so love the world that he sent God the son so that man could shed God's pure blood as a sacrifice by God the son to appease God the Father , for God the Father to save man..


Did I miss any bit?
Yes. All of it. Perhaps you meant Christians that you know?

Christianity is about reading a book and exercising your mind so you grow and develop and evolve.

It is written that when you do exercise your mind so you grow and develop and evolve, greater things than he is written to have done would you do.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 2:50pm On Dec 24, 2021
budaatum:
Yes. All of it. Perhaps you meant Christians that you know?

Christianity is about reading a book and exercising your mind so you grow and develop and evolve.

It is written that when you do exercise your mind so you grow and develop and evolve, greater things than he is written to have done would you do.
Which part of the gospels or epistles did you get this idea from. Or is it a new age religion?

Because none of the plenty iteration of Christianity holds this view.

Enlighten me.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 4:05pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
Which part of the gospels or epistles did you get this idea from. Or is it a new age religion?

Because none of the plenty iteration of Christianity holds this view.

Enlighten me.
You are very much welcome to the product of buda using buda's own heart and soul and mind and all other senses to ask and knock and seek for buda's self instead of relying on "plenty iteration of Christianity".

Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 4:33pm On Dec 24, 2021
The Bible is the history of man. In its sixty-six books it describes in allegory, prophecy, epistle, parable, and poem, man's generation, degeneration, and regeneration. It has been preserved and prized beyond all other books because it teaches man how to develop the highest principle of his being, the spirit. As man is a threefold being, spirit, soul, and body, so the Bible is a trinity in unity. It is body as a book of history; soul as a teacher of morals; and spirit as a teacher of the mysteries of being.

The student of history finds the Bible interesting if not wholly accurate; the faithful good man finds in it that which strengthens his righteousness, and the overcomer with Christ finds it to be the greatest of all books as a guide to his spiritual unfoldment. But it must be read in the spirit if the reader is to get the lesson it teaches. The key to its spiritual meaning is that back of every mentioned thing is an idea.

Mysteries of Genesis By Charles Fillmore
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 4:38pm On Dec 24, 2021
budaatum:
You are very much welcome to the product of buda using buda's own heart and soul and mind and all other senses to ask and knock and seek for buda's self instead of relying on "plenty iteration of Christianity".
You have not said anything....hope you know that.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 4:44pm On Dec 24, 2021
budaatum:
You are very much welcome to the product of buda using buda's own heart and soul and mind and all other senses to ask and knock and seek for buda's self instead of relying on "plenty iteration of Christianity".
So, does this entails me believing a woman gave birth without a man's sperm ?
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 4:52pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
So, does this entails me believing a woman gave birth without a man's sperm ?
I don't know why you feel the need to believe anything at all but the choice is entirely your's. You might want to try understanding, though.

Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 5:22pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
You have not said anything....hope you know that.

Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 6:03pm On Dec 24, 2021
budaatum:
I don't know why you feel the need to believe anything at all but the choice is entirely your's. You might want to try understanding, though.
I said that with regards to the Christian ideology. Which was born out of mis translating Jewish scriptures scriptures.....and misunderstanding too.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 6:09pm On Dec 24, 2021
I always maintained God is the (divine) consciousness....I guess with time we will come round to it. But the mean time let's just try to understand our pov
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 10:30pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
I said that with regards to the Christian ideology.
You said that with regards to the Christian ideology you witness around you and not with regard to the Christian ideology you discovered by using your own heart and soul and mind and eyes and James Webb to ask and knock and seek an understanding of your own.

Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 10:39pm On Dec 24, 2021
budaatum:
You said that with regards to the Christian ideology you witness around you and not with regard to the Christian ideology you discovered by using your own heart and soul and mind and eyes and James Webb to ask and knock and seek an understanding of your own.
What's your take on human sacrifice?
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 10:46pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
I always maintained God is the (divine) consciousness.
One might "maintain" whatever one wants about the Gods but one must be mindful of idolism.

Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 10:48pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
What's your take on human sacrifice?
I have no take on human sacrifice apart from being glad it has immensely reduced over time.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 11:09pm On Dec 24, 2021
budaatum:
One might "maintain" whatever one wants about the Gods but one must be mindful of idolism.
Do you think consciousness is a physical entity ?
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by sonmvayina(op): 11:09pm On Dec 24, 2021
budaatum:
I have no take on human sacrifice apart from being glad it has immensely reduced over time.
Is it of any benefit to God or to man ?
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 11:12pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
Is it of any benefit to God or to man ?
It is of no benefit whatsoever. These days we know it as murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice?wprov=sfla1
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by budaatum: 11:14pm On Dec 24, 2021
sonmvayina:
Do you think consciousness is a physical entity ?
No, I don't think consciousness is a physical entity.

I am conscious but I can not measure nor weigh my consciousness nor say what colour it physically is.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by NNTR: 3:46am On Dec 26, 2021
sonmvayina:
What is this? Why do you people like taking texts out of context, how are you going to understand the full gist. ?

Read the whole of Isaiah 59 and stop being lazy.

And come back and tell me it is not talking about Isaiah himself.
I suspect that you don't know nor understand that the Old Testament conceals the New Testament, while the New Testament reveals the Old Testament.

NNTR:
When God asked Abraham to sacrifice Issac to Him, what do you make out that?
Also what was Isaac being alluded to in that narrative?

Smh, you're green, wet behind the ears and just coming up, loll.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
sonmvayina:
It was one of 10 tests God gave to Abraham to prove he was worthy of the call. Nobody was sacrificed. God provided a ram.
I would score you 49/100 for the effort made in answering the questions. You would have scored more if you had attempted the second question, loll.

For your information, Isaac the only begotten son of Abram is alluding to Jesus, who is the Lamb of God. The ram that God provided to Abram is alluding to Jesus Christ, loll, who was sacrificed on the Cross at Calvary, loll.

sonmvayina:
Meaning I am saying the truth.
There are different types of truths, but your kind of truth is suspect and so, is a lie.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: Salvation In Christianity 101: by NNTR: 4:09am On Dec 26, 2021
sonmvayina:
What's your take on human sacrifice?
Its a no brainer take that God abhors human sacrifice

budaatum:
I have no take on human sacrifice apart from being glad it has immensely reduced over time.
sonmvayina:
Is it of any benefit to God or to man ?
If its a perfect sacrifice, of course, its of the utmost benefit to God, with man being the most beneficiary of it

budaatum:
It is of no benefit whatsoever. These days we know it as murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice?wprov=sfla1
Sentencing Jesus Christ to death on trumped up charges allowed Him to lawfully and legally die. This reversal of fortune, if its to be called something like that, circumvented the technicality of literal suicide or murder

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
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