LordReed:


You are doing the same thing that Jesusjnr did in 2018 that made him delete his account. LMAO!

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What did he do?

You should know that this my account has passed through ocean and fire.

HardMirror:
it is not a belief

Yes,it's a theory and I addressed it as such.
But you believe the theory yet it doesnt have absolute proof.

hupernikao:
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What did he do?

You should know that this my account has passed through ocean and fire.

He claimed he had foreseen all atheism ending in Nairaland on 1st Jan 2020 and staked his account on it.

hupernikao:


You always assume my theology. I never said everything you put up there.

I only asked if we can align on what the "problem" is. If we do then it will help our discussion.

Bible is not and never about heaven or hell. It's about salvation through faith in Christ.

Simply seeing the salvation which is a central theme in the Bible should let you know that Bible already have a bias that the world itself is already in a chaos, degenerating and corruptible state. You don't save someone or something that is not in danger. Salvation is to rescue to safety.

So if the focus of the Bible is salvation, then making heaven or casting into hell is just a doctrinal superimposition.

There is no need to throw the world in hell or fire or anything, the world is already in a state of degradation. It's only a matter of time. The evil and corruption in the world is self destructive and you know. Hence, Bible theology only present to you the

The WHY
The WHAT
The WAY OUT

Also note that, a man who view all about this world as natural and neglect facts of supernatural or spiritual, is yet to start living. These are facts that will outline the "problem" of these world.

Ok. First let me apologise for my assumption of your theology.
Now, what is the difference between one who has this salvation and one who doesn't?

LordReed:


He claimed he had foreseen all atheism ending in Nairaland on 1st Jan 2020 and staked his account on it.

LOL.

I don't need dont need to foresee. I am trusting for you. And I will keep doing so. I believe so much in you and your ability to receive this light and hope. I am trusting that someday we will contend together in this and or this faith. I believe in your place in This Light.

Myer:


Ok. First let me apologise for my assumption of your theology.
Now, what is the difference between one who has this salvation and one who doesn't?

In the Present
He is saved now, and found purpose and meaning to life in Christ Jesus. He daily learns to walk in this perfection as unto his Lord.

To walk in the newness of life as his lord will do. A process that happens daily. This includes knowing the world is beyond what you see but that which you can't see but prevails in man's affairs.

hupernikao:


In the Present
He is saved now, and found purpose and meaning to life in Christ Jesus. He daily learns to walk in this perfection as unto his Lord.

To walk in the newness of life as his lord will do. A process that happens daily. This includes knowing the world is beyond what you see but that which you can't see but prevails in man's affairs.

True. That's what the bible promises.
But interestingly this is what a newly converted true Muslim (not terrorists.lol) also experiences.
In fact this is what anyone who comes to some form of "wokeness" or "enlightenment" outside religion also experiences.

So is there any difference from the experience of the new Christian convert and a new convert into Islam or any other religion or enlightenment?

Myer:


True. That's what the bible promises.
But interestingly this is what a newly converted true Muslim (not terrorists.lol) also experiences.
In fact this is what anyone who comes to some form of "wokeness" or "enlightenment" outside religion also experiences.

So is there any difference from the experience of the new Christian convert and a new convert into Islam or any other religion or enlightenment?

I guess you mixed the newness in Christ with what others mean.

Firstly. We are speaking of SALVATION through Faith in Christ.

Secondly, Christ lived the life he wanted us to live. That is the example we see. That life is not what I am imposed to live, it is a life impacted to me. IMPACTED, note that word. It is what I have and has become.

A reality. Not what I have to be. A reality I know, and experience daily in my life. It is who I am not who I will be. Not one doing it because he doesn't want to be punished or go to hell (using your word). But one living it because that's his life. He loves to live it not because of a condition but because that is who he is.

hupernikao:



I guess you mixed the newness in Christ with what others mean.

Firstly. We are speaking of SALVATION through Faith in Christ.

Secondly, Christ lived the life he wanted us to live. That is the example we see. That life is not what I am imposed to live, it is a life impacted to me. IMPACTED, note that word. It is what I have and has become.

A reality. Not what I have to be. A reality I know, and experience daily in my life. It is who I am not who I will be. Not one doing it because he doesn't want to be punished or go to hell (using your word). But one living it because that's his life. He loves to live it not because of a condition but because that is who he is.

I was baiting you to say what the bible actually teaches which is the power of the Holyspirit in the new convert- viz spiritual gifts and spiritual fruit.

But I guess we've established apriori that you don't really believe in those portions of the bible.

Myer:


I was baiting you to say what the bible actually teaches which is the power of the Holyspirit in the new convert- viz spiritual gifts and spiritual fruit.

But I guess we've established apriori that you don't really believe in those portions of the bible.

You still not cease to make assumption for me. What is the difference between newness and the giving of the holyghost. Bro, don't let us start another exegesis here. My fourth post before this already informed you about supernatural life. I guess until Holyspirit is mentioned you can't seems to know the essence of the spirit in all I have been writing.

HolySpirit
Newlife
Eternal life
Newness

Are all words used in place of explaining the receiving of the spirit in the scriptures. So the moment you see a newlife in Christ, that is already the indwelling of the spirit. It's one and the same.

Hence, Christian walk is a walk in this newness.

hupernikao:


LOL.

I don't need dont need to foresee. I am trusting for you. And I will keep doing so. I believe so much in you and your ability to receive this light and hope. I am trusting that someday we will contend together in this and or this faith. I believe in your place in This Light.

Well, all I will say is thanks for your well wishes. Wish you a prosperous New Year in advance.

HardMirror:
Just so you know and perhaps you can think...

1. No single evidence for creationism
2. There are thousands of evidence that supports evolution.
3. Creationism teaches that life came from nothing, yet creationists keep asking where life started with evolution?

There is absolutely no reason to believe a god created life and no evidence for it.

if you have evidence or superior arguement that supports creationism over evolution tell us, cause no one in the world has so far presented any evidence that life was created


Happy Sunday

You forgot to add that there is no shred of evidence that life wasn't created. All living things today point to the fact that they didn't just happen. Wake up.

hupernikao:


Every belief system that is not of God is coming down next year. Either imagination, knowledge, thoughts, mindset etc. The walls have cracked. They will all fall flat in 2022.

Even HardMirror will be rejoicing in God's light next year. LordReed sef is doing pressup warming up. All lines with fall in great places in 2022.

2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

This is the clear and undoubtedly true Word of God. If you are praying and hoping, make it clear so that you don't become a laughing stock or make the mockers here blame the Faith.

Image123:


You forgot to add that there is no shred of evidence that life wasn't created. All living things today point to the fact that they didn't just happen. Wake up.

The study of algae shows they simply just exist/develop under the right conditions without being born or created.
That sounds like an evidence that life wasn't created.

hupernikao:


You still not cease to make assumption for me. What is the difference between newness and the giving of the holyghost. Bro, don't let us start another exegesis here. My fourth post before this already informed you about supernatural life. I guess until Holyspirit is mentioned you can't seems to know the essence of the spirit in all I have been writing.

HolySpirit
Newlife
Eternal life
Newness

Are all words used in place of explaining the receiving of the spirit in the scriptures. So the moment you see a newlife in Christ, that is already the indwelling of the spirit. It's one and the same.

Hence, Christian walk is a walk in this newness.

Every true new convert into any religion or philosophy walks in a newness of life. Because theres a paradigm shift in the person's mindset.

What the bible does teach which should separate the believer is the indwelling of the person of the Holyspirit whose evidence in the life of the believer is in speaking of tongues and impartation of other spiritual gifts and fruit (of love) which one begins to grow and manifest as the life of Christ becomes more evident in that believer.

This is really what should be the difference between a Christian and non-Christians but apparently this is hardly so.

Myer:


Every true new convert into any religion or philosophy walks in a newness of life. Because theres a paradigm shift in the person's mindset.

What the bible does teach which should separate the believer is the indwelling of the person of the Holyspirit whose evidence in the life of the believer is in speaking of tongues and impartation of other spiritual gifts and fruit (of love) which one begins to grow and manifest as the life of Christ becomes more evident in that believer.

This is really what should be the difference between a Christian and non-Christians but apparently this is hardly so.

You are still repeating exactly what I said. In Christianity, newness of life is the receiving and the walking in and by the spirit.

LordReed:


Well, all I will say is thanks for your well wishes. Wish you a prosperous New Year in advance.

That my prosperous new year include seeing you doing God's will. Hope you know.

LordReed:


He claimed he had foreseen all atheism ending in Nairaland on 1st Jan 2020 and staked his account on it.

hehehehe. Religion is declining and he is seeing atheism end? Hahaha

Who created the animals?

HardMirror:
we are all animals even now

Myer:


Pls Covid is not a verifiable fact.
It's a political one.lol

It was written about since over 30 years ago before it was "created"
US needed to oust Trump and there was no other way to achieve that so they introduced the coronavirus.

covid is verifiable. It is IMPOSSIBLE to fake a disease existing or not. You know why? Any one can purchase the right equipment and carryout tests even at home. Do you know how many biochemist, microbiologists, virologists etc we have around the world? You cannot just make up a disease these days and not be busted within 24hours. Please ditch that conspiracy and let's be real with ourselves.

By the way covid is not the only disease evolving. Every single virus and bacteria known to man are constantly mutating

Hugoempirecargo:
Who created the animals?

we evolved over time. What do you mean by who? Why not WHAT? you mean a human must have created life? Is that why you use the word WHO? So you mean humans first existed then created animals? Because you asking WHO created animals means, you think a human created all animals and it is impossible for animals to exist if a human did not create them.

HardMirror:
covid is verifiable. It is IMPOSSIBLE to fake a disease existing or not. You know why? Any one can purchase the right equipment and carryout tests even at home. Do you know how many biochemist, microbiologists, virologists etc we have around the world? You cannot just make up a disease these days and not be busted within 24hours. Please ditch that conspiracy and let's be real with ourselves.

By the way covid is not the only disease evolving. Every single virus and bacteria known to man are constantly mutating

I didnt say it doesn't exist.
I meant it's political mechanism.

It's an artificially generated virus.

I meant using it as a basis for this argument we're having is not really acceptable. I'd rather we stick to natural phenomena.

hupernikao:



You are still repeating exactly what I said. In Christianity, newness of life is the receiving and the walking in and by the spirit.

even if lordreed converts to your religion, it in no way validates your religion. After all 2billion people already practice christianity in various forms yet they have not been able to show that God benefits mankind in any way. Christians are terrible, ordinary, useless as every other human being on earth be it muslims, Hindus, or even atheists your god has in no way made you better humans

Myer:


I didnt say it doesn't exist.
I meant it's political mechanism.

It's an artificially generated virus.

I meant using it as a basis for this argument we're having is not really acceptable. I'd rather we stick to natural phenomena.

covid or not, all viruses and bacteria are evolving actively that is the most important thing. Every single human is born with more than 10 mutations.

hupernikao:



You are still repeating exactly what I said. In Christianity, newness of life is the receiving and the walking in and by the spirit.

A newly converted true Muslim walking in newness of life is simply no different from a newly converted true Christian walking in newness of life.

Why I am particular about you mentioning the Holyspirit is because that truly is what differentiates the Christian from every other religion scripturally.

HardMirror:
covid or not, all viruses and bacteria are evolving actively that is the most important thing. Every single human is born with more than 10 mutations.

Can you mention one that has evolved?
If possible with a link?

Myer:


A newly converted true Muslim walking in newness of life is simply no different from a newly converted true Christian walking in newness of life.

Why I am particular about you mentioning the Holyspirit is because that truly is what differentiates the Christian from every other religion scripturally.

We are actually saying same thing all through now. Newness of life to Christian is not same as to others. Newness of life is the life in the spirit, spirit of God.

Myer:


Can you mention one that has evolved?
If possible with a link?

malaria for example https://www.malariasite.com/history-parasites/ and this is true for ALLL, I MEAN ALL VIRUSES, BACTERIA, PARACITES KNOWN TO MAN

HardMirror:
even if lordreed converts to your religion, it in no way validates your religion. After all 2billion people already practice christianity in various forms yet they have not been able to show that God benefits mankind in any way. Christians are terrible, ordinary, useless as every other human being on earth be it muslims, Hindus, or even atheists your god has in no way made you better humans

Pèlé untrained psychologist.

No one is seeking validation. It's a clown that seek such.

If all you are dwelling on for a whole year is seeking validation, your journey is still far then. But I know, in due time, your eyes will clear like the surface of the morning dew collected over a pool.

HardMirror:
even if lordreed converts to your religion, it in no way validates your religion. After all 2billion people already practice christianity in various forms yet they have not been able to show that God benefits mankind in any way. Christians are terrible, ordinary, useless as every other human being on earth be it muslims, Hindus, or even atheists your god has in no way made you better humans

Loool so harsh.
Your point is simply what I've been trying to let him see.

Christian's are no different from anyone else in reality.
But biblically, they should be.

Just like those practising other religions according to their own Holy books should be different from the reality we see today.

The true Hinduist, Buddhist,Confucian, Traditionalists etc also believe they are supposed to be the better people than others but guess what in reality they are just as greedy, selfish, dishonest, sexually perverted,etc just as most Christian's and Muslims.

So it begs the question, instead of focusing your attention on atheists, why not look inward and see why your own religion- Christianity for Hupernikao, has failed to live up to it's promise and standard.

Myer:


Can you mention one that has evolved?
If possible with a link?

https://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/evolution-of-drug-resistance-in-malaria-parasite-96645809/
If you want more recent information on same malaria parasite

Myer:


Loool so harsh.
Your point is simply what I've been trying to let him see.

Christian's are no different from anyone else in reality.
But biblically, they should be.

Just like those practising other religions according to their own Holy books should be different from the reality we see today.

The true Hinduist, Buddhist,Confucian, Traditionalists etc also believe they are supposed to be the better people than others but guess what in reality they are just as greedy, selfish, dishonest, sexually perverted,etc just as most Christian's and Muslims.

So it begs the question, instead of focusing your attention on atheists, why not look inward and see why your own religion- Christianity for Hupernikao, has failed to live up to it's promise and standard.

exactly