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Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:29am On Jan 05, 2022
By Tonye Barcanista

1. Shangisha Landowners defeated Lagos state government up to Supreme court to reclaim their land in Magodo which was illegally disposed of them by LASG and sold to cronies.

2. Following the victory of Shangisha landowners at the Supreme court, Magodo 2 Residents applied to Lagos State High Court for a Stay of Execution.

Is it not an abuse of court process for a lower court to grant stay of execution of the judgement of a Superior court?

3. Armed with favorable judgement, the landowners sought for the execution of the judgement through the office of AGF/IGP, and a CSP was mandated to lead the team to effect judgement.

NB: These offices are statutorily obligated to effect judicial judgements irrespective of the personalities involved.

4. The Governor of Lagos state, Mr. Jide Sanwoolu, whose government was defeated in the Supreme Court by the Shangisha Landowners, resorted to abuse his office as Governor by moving to the location to disrupt the enforcement of a Supreme Court judgement.

He resorted to play to the gallery before journalists by instructing a Senior Police Officer on lawful duty to disengage as though his pronouncement is superior to that of the Supreme Court upon which the CSP was deployed to engage.

Furthermore, the Governor equally ordered the Police Officer on lawful duty to *vacate* the state in gross abuse of his personal right and bullying of his person.

5. The Governor later called the the AGF/IGP who equally abused their privileged office by ordering the CSP to disengage from discharging his lawful duty and executing an order of the Apex Court.

6. The victims in all these are the Shangisha Landowners, who painstakingly and gallantly fought the LASG in different courts and defeated them in their bid to reclaim their lands. The CSP who is currently being bullied for discharging a lawful order is equally a victim.

7. The abusers and villains here are Governor Jide Sanwoolu, Lagos state government, the AGF/IGP that gave stand down order to the CSP and Magodo Residents Association, who instead of finding ways to reach a truce with the owners of the land resorted to use their high contact to call the Governor.

8. May God Help Nigeria.


Tonye Barcanista

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Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by seunmsg(m): 11:40am On Jan 05, 2022
I think the judgement said something about re-allocating land to the displaced Shangisha land owners and not necessarily to forcefully takeover Magodo 2.

What is needed at this point in time is an amicable resolution and not a forceful ejection and demolition of Magodo 2. Since there is a stay of execution already, all parties should maintain the status quo while a peaceful solution is negotiated.

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Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by fergie001: 11:50am On Jan 05, 2022
I will suppose you mean "effecting the judgement" is bringing down those marked houses, right? Very funny/

Following the victory of Shangisha landowners at the Supreme court, Magodo 2 Residents applied to Lagos State High Court for a Stay of Execution.
Now, let me ask you....Was the Magodo Residents Association parties to the original suit at the Supreme Court?

You should know that no matter how foul a judgement is, it stands until vacated.

Armed with favorable judgement, the landowners sought for the execution of the judgement through the office of AGF/IGP, and a CSP was mandated to lead the team to effect judgement.
What is the judgement they were to effect?
The SC said the LASG should allocate or re-allocate 549 plots of land to the creditors.

Did the SC tell them to start marking people's houses?

The SC didn't say "possession" but "allocation" but they want to "possess."

Hear the SC:
“…… This Court appreciates the magnanimity of the Lagos State Government in the proposals to effect an amicable settlement of this matter. The ball is now in the court of the counsel to the respondents who has a statutory duty to advise them properly to give the government their maximum co-operation in the execution of this judgment.”

They were allocated same in Badagry, all but one agreed. They were re-allocated at Ibeju-Lekki, the same person also disagreed. The Govt was still engaging them before this latest development.

Again, the AGF had no business with this execution but the Registrar of the Lagos High Court.

Sanwo-olu messed himself up by going to the CSP...He should have called the IGP instead of messing himself up. The CSP did no wrong, Jide just doesn't know certain things.

Tonye, when will Wike pay the 250 teachers despite a subsisting Court order?

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Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by seunmsg(m): 11:54am On Jan 05, 2022
Beface:
I don't understand what you mean by stay off, when a superior court gave a judgement and State High Court is gave one yeye stay off. I was told in my borrow Law course in school that after Supreme Court judgement the case is closed and if you have a other thing against the judgement, you should take it to God.
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Once an order is given, it has to be respected until it is set aside by a court of competent jurisdiction. It doesn’t matter if the order is against the decision of the almighty Supreme Court. The order can’t be treated like it doesn’t exist. It is the NJC that will decide if the judge erred in given the order and not the IGP/AGF. The parties should maintain the status quo and a peaceful solution should be negotiated.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by Nobody: 11:54am On Jan 05, 2022
Beface:
I don't understand what you mean by stay off, when a superior court gave a judgement and State High Court is gave one yeye stay off. I was told in my borrow Law course in school that after Supreme Court judgement the case is closed and if you have a other thing against the judgement, you should take it to God.
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Since a lower court gave a stay of execution, if such order is illegal, the judge should be reported to NJC and let him be sanctioned and be forced to reverse the order.

Pending that, the order remain alive . The legality of it is just a debate or legal opinion.

Law is for man and man not for the law.

I think the indigenes who inherited the land, should be more realistic and accept the land in Badagry and Ibeju lekki offered to them by Lagos state govt. They should ask for some financial compensation in addition.


But of they are expecting financial compensation equal to the current value of the land, that will be asking for too much. They won't get it.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:55am On Jan 05, 2022
seunmsg:
I think the judgement said something about re-allocating land to the displaced Shangisha land owners and not necessarily to forcefully takeover Magodo 2.

What is needed at this point in time is an amicable resolution and not a forceful ejection and demolition of Magodo 2. Since there is a stay of execution already, all parties should maintain the status quo while a peaceful solution is negotiated.
My brother, leave what you think and face the fact. The only amicable solution is enforcement of the Supreme Court order
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 11:56am On Jan 05, 2022
life2017:


Since a lower court gave a stay of execution, if such order is illegal, the judge should be reported to NJC and let him be sanctioned and be forced to reverse the order.

Pending that, the order remain alive . The legality of it is just a debate or legal opinion.
This isn't the position of law. The order of Higher Court subsists even when a lower court gives contrary order.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by Nobody: 11:59am On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:
This isn't the position of law. The order of Higher Court subsists even when a lower court gives contrary order.

I am not arguing the position of the law with u.

Anybody can chose which order to honour base on selfish interest.

Once u have that controversy whether legal or not , u need an authority to override the illegal one.

At the moment it is a game of who has more power!

Law in itself is subject to interpretation and also must be accepted by the society
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by seunmsg(m): 12:00pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:

My brother, leave what you think and face the fact. The only amicable solution is enforcement of the Supreme Court order

No. All options should be on the table. If the judgement gave reallocation as an option, it should be explored with n the overall interest of equity and a peaceful Lagos. Demolishing Magodo is not going n the overall interest of the state. Beside, there is a stay of execution and it should be respected until it is vacated.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:06pm On Jan 05, 2022
life2017:


I am not arguing the position of the law with u.

Anybody can chose which order to honour base on selfish interest.

Once u have that controversy whether legal or not , u need an authority to override the illegal one.

At the moment it is a game of who has more power!

Law in itself is subject to interpretation and also must be accepted by the society
The Law Enforcement Agencies (like the Police) is meant to enforce lawful orders not sustain an unlawful order. The order of the Supreme Court is binding on ALL parties and cannot be stayed by Appeal Court not to talk of High Court.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:08pm On Jan 05, 2022
seunmsg:


No. All options should be on the table. If the judgement gave reallocation as an option, it should be explored with n the overall interest of equity and a peaceful Lagos. Demolishing Magodo is not going n the overall interest of the state. Beside, there is a stay of execution and it should be respected until it is vacated.
There is a subsisting judgement of the Supreme Court. If the LASG feels enforcement is not of the State's interest they should return to Supreme court and not resort to kangaroo worthless Lagos High Court.

NB: the order of Lagos High Court is piece of trash
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by aribisala0(m): 12:09pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:
By Tonye Barcanista

1. Shangisha Landowners defeated Lagos state government up to Supreme court to reclaim their land in Magodo which was illegally disposed of them by LASG and sold to cronies.

2. Following the victory of Shangisha landowners at the Supreme court, Magodo 2 Residents applied to Lagos State High Court for a Stay of Execution.

Is it not an abuse of court process for a lower court to grant stay of execution of the judgement of a Superior court?

3. Armed with favorable judgement, the landowners sought for the execution of the judgement through the office of AGF/IGP, and a CSP was mandated to lead the team to effect judgement.

NB: These offices are statutorily obligated to effect judicial judgements irrespective of the personalities involved.

4. The Governor of Lagos state, Mr. Jide Sanwoolu, whose government was defeated in the Supreme Court by the Shangisha Landowners, resorted to abuse his office as Governor by moving to the location to disrupt the enforcement of a Supreme Court judgement.

He resorted to play to the gallery before journalists by instructing a Senior Police Officer on lawful duty to disengage as though his pronouncement is superior to that of the Supreme Court upon which the CSP was deployed to engage.

Furthermore, the Governor equally ordered the Police Officer on lawful duty to *vacate* the state in gross abuse of his personal right and bullying of his person.

5. The Governor later called the the AGF/IGP who equally abused their privileged office by ordering the CSP to disengage from discharging his lawful duty and executing an order of the Apex Court.

6. The victims in all these are the Shangisha Landowners, who painstakingly and gallantly fought the LASG in different courts and defeated them in their bid to reclaim their lands. The CSP who is currently being bullied for discharging a lawful order is equally a victim.

7. The abusers and villains here are Governor Jide Sanwoolu, Lagos state government, the AGF/IGP that gave stand down order to the CSP and Magodo Residents Association, who instead of finding ways to reach a truce with the owners of the land resorted to use their high contact to call the Governor.

8. May God Help Nigeria.


Tonye Barcanista
Have you equipped yourself with facts before playing to the Gallery

Did the Supreme Court rule that the SPECIFIC LAND in dispute be returned to the Plaintiffs

A simple Yes or No will suffice.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by aribisala0(m): 12:10pm On Jan 05, 2022
seunmsg:


Once an order is given, it has to be respected until it is set aside by a court of competent jurisdiction. It doesn’t matter if the order is against the decision of the almighty Supreme Court. The order can’t be treated like it doesn’t exist. It is the NJC that will decide if the judge erred in given the order and not the IGP/AGF. The parties should maintain the status quo and a peaceful solution should be negotiated.
WHAT WS THE SPECIFIC ORDER that was given ? Have you done any research?
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by aribisala0(m): 12:11pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:

There is a subsisting judgement of the Supreme Court. If the LASG feels enforcement is not of the State's interest they should return to Supreme court and not resort to kangaroo worthless Lagos High Court.

NB: the order of Lagos High Court is piece of trash
What is the koko of the Supreme Court judgment . Have you read it. I very much doubt this
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by CannibalTorment: 12:12pm On Jan 05, 2022
First your concept of government is outright nonsense and spurious, you are somehow deficient and uninformed.

Government is a group of people that might even include former people that have govern a particular place like in this case.

You are talking as if it was Sanwo-olu the governor that was charged to court, he is just a part of the party not the whole.

And mind you if a judgement should be carried out in a state the governor should be aware not one corrupt bastard jumping into a state under the governor's nosery in a selective execution, the charge and bail lawyer selectively obey court judgements that favour him.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by aribisala0(m): 12:13pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:

The Law Enforcement Agencies (like the Police) is meant to enforce lawful orders not sustain an unlawful order. The order of the Supreme Court is binding on ALL parties and cannot be stayed by Appeal Court not to talk of High Court.
What was the order, exactly?
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by seunmsg(m): 12:28pm On Jan 05, 2022
aribisala0:
WHAT WS THE SPECIFIC ORDER that was given ? Have you done any research?

I’m talking about the stay of execution order given by a Lagos State high court.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:31pm On Jan 05, 2022
aribisala0:
What was the order, exactly?
The Supreme court ruled that 549 plots of land illegally taken by LASG be taken possession by the Shangisha landowners
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:32pm On Jan 05, 2022
seunmsg:


I’m talking about the stay of execution order given by a Lagos State high court.
How can a High Court give stat of execution of Supreme court order? Not even a High Court can stay execution of another High Court judgement, not to talk of Supreme court. Who do you expect to obey such abuse of court?
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by seunmsg(m): 12:34pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:

The Supreme court ruled that 549 plots of land illegally stolen by LASG be taken possession by the Shangisha landowners

Or land should be reallocated to them. Lagos state government should simply give them another land.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by seunmsg(m): 12:35pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:

How can a High Court give stat of execution of Supreme court order? Not even a High Court can stay execution of another High Court judgement, not to talk of Supreme court. Who do you expect to obey such abuse of court?

Until the order is vacated, it remains valid.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:38pm On Jan 05, 2022
CannibalTorment:
First your concept of government is outright nonsense and spurious, you are somehow deficient and uninformed.

Government is a group of people that might even include former people that have govern a particular place like in this case.

You are talking as if it was Sanwo-olu the governor that was charged to court, he is just a part of the party not the whole.

And mind you if a judgement should be carried out in a state the governor should be aware not one corrupt bastard jumping into a state under the governor's nosery in a selective execution, the charge and bail lawyer selectively obey court judgements that favour him.
Sanwoolu conduct was a disgrace to his status as Governor. He isn't superior to Supreme court, and as a Governor he is meant to respect judgement of court.

NB: it is absolutely unnecessary to inform, sought permission or inundate a Governor or even President before enforcing the judgement of a court.

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Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by aribisala0(m): 12:39pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:

The Supreme court ruled that 549 plots of land illegally stolen by LASG be taken possession by the Shangisha landowners
Funny guy
"illegally stolen"
Is there such a thing as legally stolen
Spare us the bombast.
Can you provide a reference or citation

Your claim is not true. You are just assuming that to be the case.


Ei imcumbio probatio qui dicit non qui negat
It is incumbent on the one who declares a thing to prove it not he who disputes the claim of the declarer
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:39pm On Jan 05, 2022
seunmsg:


Until the order is vacated, it remains valid.
High Court will stay order of Supreme court?


R.I.P Education

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Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by somehow: 12:44pm On Jan 05, 2022
seunmsg:
I think the judgement said something about re-allocating land to the displaced Shangisha land owners and not necessarily to forcefully takeover Magodo 2.

What is needed at this point in time is an amicable resolution and not a forceful ejection and demolition of Magodo 2. Since there is a stay of execution already, all parties should maintain the status quo while a peaceful solution is negotiated.

Stay of execution from a lower court against a supreme Court judgement?

Can you be objective?
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by somehow: 12:48pm On Jan 05, 2022
seunmsg:


Or land should be reallocated to them. Lagos state government should simply give them another land.

This is false.

The real landowners were giventthe first right of choice.

Meaning they must be allocated that particular land in Shangisa before anyone else.

If you say otherwise, post the judgement here that's contrary to what I just stated.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by fergie001: 12:51pm On Jan 05, 2022
somehow:


Stay of execution from a lower court against a supreme Court judgement?

Can you be objective?
What is the objectivity you are talking about?

When a judgement of a Court is given, no matter how bad or worse.. it stands, until vacated.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by seunmsg(m): 12:51pm On Jan 05, 2022
TonyeBarcanista:
High Court will stay order of Supreme court?


R.I.P Education

The order remains valid until it is vacated.
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by aribisala0(m): 12:54pm On Jan 05, 2022
The Supreme court did not make any new judgments or orders . It affirmed the judgment of the lower courts
Sadly the passage of time make the judgment impossible to enforce without causing crisis and Lagos State should compensate the plaintiffs.

If The Supreme rules that the Land Holding Kainji Dam or Dangote's refinery was unlawfully acquired would those projects be demolished?
Re: Sanwoolu Vs CSP: Can We Be Objective? by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:56pm On Jan 05, 2022
somehow:


This is false.

The real landowners were giventthe first right of choice.

Meaning they must be allocated that particular land in Shangisa before anyone else.

If you say otherwise, post the judgement here that's contrary to what I just stated.

"A declaration that members of the Shangisha Landlords Association whose lands and or buildings at Shangisha village were demolished by the Lagos State Government and/or its servants or agents during the period of June 1984 to May 1985 are entitled to the first choice preferential treatment by the Lagos State Government before any other person(s) in the allocation or re-allocation of plots in Shangisha village and I make the order against the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th defendants (particularly the Lagos State Government and Land Use and Allocation committee) as agreed in the meeting held on 16th October 1984 with the Ministry of Lands and Housing and Development Matters, Lagos State.


“2. An order of Mandatory Injunction is hereby made that the said defendants shall forthwith allocate 549 (five hundred and forty-nine) plots to the plaintiffs in the said Shangisha village scheme in the Shangisha village aforesaid.”



The above is the CLEAR PRONOUNCEMENT of Supreme Court

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