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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:54pm On Jan 05, 2022
komekn:


Every football game has an element of luck and fortitude. The team that prepares properly creates team cohesion and through working as a team can beat better teams with sheer hard work and determination.

Nonetheless, cream always rises to the top.

Last AFCON Algeria and Senegal were the best teams and Senegal was unlucky.

If anything we were lucky to get as far as we did.

On paper we are underdogs, there are at least 5 teams better than us on paper. Teams that win usually have a world class top player, that gives them an edge.

what do you mean? How were we lucky? If anything Algeria were lucky to reach semi, they edged out Ivory Coast via pk in the quarters

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 12:55pm On Jan 05, 2022
From studying Eguavoen so far, my deduction is this: Ejuke is his joker. He fancies Olayinka. He thinks the team has missed a lot of creativity in the attack, hence Nwakali.

If everything works well for him, he is going for broke. If his plans doesn't work well (due to lack of the right mix of players), he'll play safe like Rohr. Lol. Except that he'll be more attack minded.

Not bad yeah.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:55pm On Jan 05, 2022
Guys where is Oga Basco, who is this De Beer guy, Vandresser just sign, what is his playing style, his coaching philosophy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:59pm On Jan 05, 2022
Shukusheka:
Koshi danu. Iyalaya e mumu.


Werey lo po ninu yin grin grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:00pm On Jan 05, 2022
12large1:


Which kind mumu be this wey nor nor say onuachu isn’t even among the team and that, onuachu is injured. Na Mumu full this place foreal.. i cannot wait to see romario score for us at this tournament…. (Make we all mumu ourselves here)
grin this guy!!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:02pm On Jan 05, 2022
stevemarkdangot:

Which I believe is a major factor for osimehn's goal run. Osimehn was highly favored among our strikers.
fully merited
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:03pm On Jan 05, 2022
chrisooblog:
Sometimes judging your team's chances based on who is available or not is not the way to go.

In 2013 Osaze was out and out our best striker using EPL pedigree but we didn't take him. Same with Martins who I think was playing in La Liga then.

At the end of the day what happened? Emenike from a ''farmers'' league carried our goal scoring burden even though before the AFCON he was largely unrated.

So it's rather premature to say without Osimhen, Dennis and Ighalo we don't have hope.

I think everything depends on Eguavoen philosophy as a coach.Stephen Keshi believe so much in bullish striker like Emenike.He love them strong and tall,athletic sort of.

Let's wait for Eguavoen to unleash his team against Egypt.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:12pm On Jan 05, 2022
elyte89:



Werey lo po ninu yin grin grin grin grin
I don't know why a grow up adult will just resulted to insult in the middle of football analysis...I just don't know...fine the guy said something about Onuachu,instead of simple correction,next thing the guy na mumu and the guy replied calling someone mama mumu.......you see the issue now.....imagine someone calling someone out with his dead child...NO NO.

Check out Shukusheka post and replies he got from large12 and andrew44 and spot who got it wrong.....enough of this tantrums abi na cruise Una dey call it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eizzy003(m): 1:38pm On Jan 05, 2022
do4luv14:
Guys where is Oga Basco,
who is this De Beer guy, Vandresser just sign,
what is his playing style, his coaching philosophy
I think he is a sport scientist and not a coach, he is working sport science department
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 1:40pm On Jan 05, 2022
I've been here for a very very long time. Far longer than most folks here, maybe most folks here don't know this. And if there is one thing I have realized here, it is the level of maturity that has dropped when we talk about football and express ourselves. Please let us grow up.

I'm more of a peace maker, a gentle mind, than a rebel. Nothing gingers me more than peaceful environments. In fact, I recall when thesupernerd had issues here long ago and left to form his own similar federal republic of football in the sport section. I was the one who went there in his thread to CONSISTENTLY plead with him to come back home, here. No other person cared, but I took time to plead with him to forget the issues he had with anyone here and Come home. He came back.

Please, I'm begging all. Let's not bully anyone here, ever again. Talk football and express your opinion withou insults and hateful words. Nobody hate your favourite footballer, nobody is after your best player, nobody wants to steal your wife and rob your money, so why all the mindless tantrums?

If you disagree with anyone, air your points with civil words. If you are being disrespected, ignore the person and move on. Let us be mature. We nor dey drag anything for real life. Na fun we come catch here.

Life too short to be angry in real life and still be angry here. Nobody dey have am easy for this Buhari economy. We know. But once you're here, let us forget our life problems and just talk football. If someone is getting good reviews here and people are liking the person, nor get jealous and find how to counter or attack the person. Learn from the person instead. Befriend the person and argue with corrections and love.

Because las las, nobody come here come toast woman or hustle for money. Na happiness and self healing vibes carry us come.

If you're depressed, take it away from here. If you never fxxk for long, go cure your konji— get a good partner and fxxk wella; nor come spoil our own joy in Jesus name.

Thank you.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:42pm On Jan 05, 2022
do4luv14:



Ex international wey carry Belle like pregno woman,

If them do scan na, nah the result go be this
O lagbara
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 1:43pm On Jan 05, 2022
Eizzy003:

I think he is a sport scientist and not a coach, he is working sport science department


OK thanks for the heads up
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by stevemarkdangot(m): 1:44pm On Jan 05, 2022
jihday:
fully merited
Everyone invited merited it but we all know the coach will take chance on some and the rest will be on the bench. That doesn't discredit is brilliance.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by POSITIVEBRAINS: 1:44pm On Jan 05, 2022
Where are all the experts in the house that do give us players rating and performance from camp. Pls you people shd speak so that we can know the performance of our Player in camp, that will also help us determine out first eleven.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:47pm On Jan 05, 2022
POSITIVEBRAINS:
Where are all the experts in the house that do give us players rating and performance from camp. Pls you people shd speak so that we can know the performance of our Player in camp, that will also help us determine out first eleven.
The camp is still young to know who is who,imagine Yobo had a full training with the team yesterday.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 1:50pm On Jan 05, 2022
Kog45:
Dennis was outstanding in Belgium league with more than 80 appearances with 20 or more goals though he later fell out with his club due to his attitudes and that bad attitudes continue with him in Germany,really surprised seeing him turning good for Watford.
not a komekn type of outstanding Sha
Dennis is my boy since when he was in Ukraine
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 1:50pm On Jan 05, 2022
But if I catch smartsmith ehn!

Him suppose de give us update by now! Abi dem don sack am with Rohr ni angry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:58pm On Jan 05, 2022
maidaboi:
not a komekn type of outstanding Sha
Dennis is my boy since when he was in Ukraine
Sir,kai una and Komekn.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:00pm On Jan 05, 2022
Odunayaw:
But if I catch smartsmith ehn!

Him suppose de give us update by now! Abi dem don sack am with Rohr ni angry
Ha smartsmith na Rohr personal assistant nau....we need him now cos him be Super eagles in house man.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:02pm On Jan 05, 2022
Odunayaw:
But if I catch smartsmith ehn!

Him suppose de give us update by now! Abi dem don sack am with Rohr ni angry

cheesy cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 2:05pm On Jan 05, 2022
Kog45:
Sir,kai una and Komekn.
lol it is always good to have him around
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 2:05pm On Jan 05, 2022
Odunayaw:
But if I catch smartsmith ehn!

Him suppose de give us update by now! Abi dem don sack am with Rohr ni angry
lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 2:08pm On Jan 05, 2022
Heard Umar scored an hat trick in camp grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 2:09pm On Jan 05, 2022
I am watching Ghana match today hope it is on hesgoal
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 2:10pm On Jan 05, 2022
Samueltemi337:
Heard Umar scored an hat trick in camp grin
that's my boy
Nacho with a brace oh I remember when Nacho use to score during training and will be no where to be found in matches and we were wondering that time what was wrong lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:16pm On Jan 05, 2022
forgiveness:


Osimhen 9 goals are 3 assists
Dennis 8 goals and 5 assists
Awoniyi 14 goals and 3 assists
Dessers 10 goals and 3 assists
Onuachu 14 goals


Can you please explain?


Your KPI's are flawed and don't give a balanced assessment.

Generally most clubs look at league performance not cup games essentially because you could be playing a 5th tier club and score 10 goals giving a skewed deduction of your true abilities.

The EPL is the most competitive league and best league in the world. It's the most physically taxing and fast. So scoring in the Eredivisie is not the same as the EPL.

Therefore my assessment approach will be on competitive league games not cup games, which gives a better insight.

Games. Goals League

Dennis 17 - 8 - EPL
Awoniyi 17 - 9 - Bundesliga
Osimhen 11 - 5 - Seria A
Dessers 14 - 4 - Eredivisie
Onuachu 18 - 12 - Belgium 1st
Umar S. 19 - 7 - Segunda

Statistics are still not conclusive just indicative. So most top teams will go further in their recruitment assessment and a whole range of stats on will be appraised with a matchreport by scouts and analysts who would watch him in a quite a few game's.

But the more stats you have the better the picture you have of the player's. You also look at context which means the substance and quality of the league.

So lets look at Sadiq Umar , sentiment aside, unless he has improved, it's hard to say because the league he is in is not very competitive.

He is number 7 in the top scorers table in the Segunda Division. Three players above him are all older than him three of them are 35,39 and 40 and have left better leagues even Chinese and retired to the Segunda. Add to that Sadiq has the lowest conversion rate among the top 25 . He had 51 shots and scored 7 with only 22 on target.

Now before my detractors say HATE statistics don't lie.

I would not be able to justify his inclusion on this list particularly when you have Onuachu and quite a few others David Okereke all playing in first tier leagues in the top 5 for some and top 10 leagues for others.

I see a very lackadaisical attitude in the NFF recruitment strategy IMO just like our politicians characterised by recycling of the old never seeking the NEW.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:19pm On Jan 05, 2022
Aribo in yesterday night and Chuckwueze in this morning.....Ebuehi will fly straight to Garoua Cameroon after Venezia vs Salernitana match on Thursday evening,still expecting Collins.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by FIFApresident1(m): 2:20pm On Jan 05, 2022
12large1:


Epl, la liga and Seria are the Big 3. Their goals holds more weight than any other league that’s why I said “on current form”.. bundesliga and Lique 1 are among the big 5 but they’re still farmers league.. to me, 1 goal scored at Epl, la liga and Seria is an equivalent of 1.75 at bundesliga and Lique 1 while 2 at all other backwater league
When last did a serie A team won the UCL?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:20pm On Jan 05, 2022
stevemarkdangot:

Everyone invited merited it but we all know the coach will take chance on some and the rest will be on the bench. That doesn't discredit is brilliance.


That assertion please explain how Nwakali, Umar by comparison with other Nigerian players in Europe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 2:25pm On Jan 05, 2022
Kog45:
Aibo in yesterday night and Chuckwueze in this morning.....Ebuehi will fly straight to Garoua Cameroon after Venezia vs Salernitana match on Thursday evening,still expecting Collins.

How about Dessers
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:26pm On Jan 05, 2022
chrisooblog:
Sometimes judging your team's chances based on who is available or not is not the way to go.

In 2013 Osaze was out and out our best striker using EPL pedigree but we didn't take him. Same with Martins who I think was playing in La Liga then.

At the end of the day what happened? Emenike from a ''farmers'' league carried our goal scoring burden even though before the AFCON he was largely unrated.

So it's rather premature to say without Osimhen, Dennis and Ighalo we don't have hope.


That's an entirely different discussion and there was no justification for their exclusion.

The question should be how much better we could have been IMO

Then the real testament is where did those players get to after the tournament. And where did the ones excluded rise to

That's the real judgement.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:30pm On Jan 05, 2022
chrisooblog:
Senegal had the best team in 2017 they choked, 2019 they lost, way back in 2002 they lost. The favorites tag might be heavy on them.

As for Algeria yes they are very capable of doing a repeat but 2019 was abit surprising most people didn't outrightly pick them to lift the trophy.


I agree aggressively grin

There will be upsets and no amount of analysis can predict that.

Nigeria could win it's very possible albeit it unlikely on the other hand we could get kicked out in the first round.

It's football nobody really knows.

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