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To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 5:05am On Jan 08, 2022
My brothers and sisters, we are in the season of politics and therefore, you should be ready of stories that make you lose hope, stories that make you despair and want to quit coming online. Stories that make you question God why he created you an Igbo. These are inevitables.
But I want to assure you, do not be discouraged; 2023 is Igbos to lose. I became a politician at a younger age, learning from the very best, Dr Cbuba Okadigbo.
Dr Okadigbo was a forecaster in politics. Of course you know he read political science and was former political adviser to Shehu Shagari. He told us when an Igbo man will be president of Nigeria. That was in 2001 during his turbulent times as Senate President.
According to him; After OBJ, power will shift to North. He said, "there, they don't do microzone. It's NW or nobody. But if NW doesn't have strong personality, then it's survival of the fittest ".
So it happened same way because it was between Yaradua and Buhari.
He told us then: " if PDP continues in power, then 2015, an Igbo man will be president".
Mind you, he said these things in 2001. But in 2007, OBJ forced Yaradua and GEJ on Nigeria and we accepted it.
What PDP wanted to achieve was, after Yaradua 8 years, once power returns to South in 2015, Igbos will produce the president.
But death happened and the rest is history.
But during that time, ANPP had sent emissaries to Okadigbo, wooing him to join them.
So he was briefing his supporters on his next political journey, and he said.
"If ANPP wins election in 2003, after Buhari's 8 years, in 2011, power will return to South and South South has it".
This was where he stopped and ask those that have eyes to do 20 years forecast.
It was in 2015 after the election that I went to see one of Okadigbo boys. He's now a professor at Enugu state university of technology.
He told me about that puzzle the late Sage gave. I didn't even remember, until he reminded me.
This political scientist said "baring any death of the president, presidency will come to South East in 2023".
Why did I believe him?
Dr Akin Osutokun, former political adviser to OBJ, in his yesterday's reaction to Bisi Akande book posited thus; "in 2023, Nigeria will have 24 years of uninterrupted democracy. Out of this 24 years, OBJ did 8 years as president, Osibanjo would've done 8 years as VP. That 16 years; it would be unthinkable for power brokers to look the way of South West to take over from Buhari. He advised Tinubu to either throw his weight behind SE or risks losing everything (sic)".

Party Tickets
APC and PDP will give South East the ticket.
APC is becoming glaring going by the body language of the party leadership.
For instance, two weeks ago, Orji Kalu appealed to the party leaders to shift the convention.
Yesterday, 5 members of the party from North want the court to stop convention.
APC is divided between governors and others. The governors are incharge of the party now and they are ANPP members of the party.
In 2015
President candidate CPC
VP ACN
In 2023,
president candidate ANPP
VP CPC
The strong south in ANPP are Umahi and Ogbonnaya Onuh. Watch out these two.

PDP
They have a written constitution and zoning is included. So they will respect that or the party will die naturally.
But if they argue that the there's an exception to the zoning, just like we have now where they are not in power; and then zone to North.
The northerner will still not will(won't say more on this), but Just know that Nigeria is not U.S. where geopolitics has little or no effect.
So Igbos, don't worry about your voting strength, your population and other disadvantages, the election is us to lose.
Nigeria politics is not game of numbers as obtained in democracy, it is number of games.
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 5:16am On Jan 08, 2022
Coldshisha:
cool


This Statement flawed the argument "
Party Tickets
APC and PDP will give South East the ticket.
APC is becoming glaring going by the body language of the party leadership. "



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007 Movie is titled "Tomorrow Never Dies". We should wait till then. But I've told you what must happen

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Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 5:23am On Jan 08, 2022
Coldshisha:
cool


This Statement flawed the argument

"
Party Tickets
APC and PDP will give South East the ticket.
APC is becoming glaring going by the body language of the party leadership. "


Presidential primaries and nomination is conducted in two ways which the outcome determines who get the ticket

Direct primaries ; with a 5000 delegates primaries atleast 3 delegates are selected from each of the 774 local government and FCT, the remaining delegates are formed from Political office holders


.
Did you read what the president said about the new electoral bill?
He said if NASS include indirect primaries and CONSENSUS, he will sign the bill.
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by Coldshisha: 5:34am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:

Did you read what the president said about the new electoral bill?
He said if NASS include indirect primaries and CONSENSUS, he will sign the bill.

To meet conditions of Consensus candidate, majority of each 774 party LGA party secretariat must authorise such, each State chapter must ratify and agree before INEC would allow such

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Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by helinues: 5:35am On Jan 08, 2022
For his mind now, this one self go dey call himself political analyst...

grin

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Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by louqas: 5:46am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:
My brothers and sisters, we are in the season of politics and therefore, you should be ready of stories that make you lose hope, stories that make you despair and want to quit coming online. Stories that make you question God why he created you an Igbo. These are inevitables.
But I want to assure you, do not be discouraged; 2023 is Igbos to lose. I became a politician at a younger age, learning from the very best, Dr Cbuba Okadigbo.
Dr Okadigbo was a forecaster in politics. Of course you know he read political science and was former political adviser to Shehu Shagari. He told us when an Igbo man will be president of Nigeria. That was in 2001 during his turbulent times as Senate President.
According to him; After OBJ, power will shift to North. He said, "there, they don't do microzone. It's NW or nobody. But if NW doesn't have strong personality, then it's survival of the fittest ".
So it happened same way because it was between Yaradua and Buhari.
He told us then: " if PDP continues in power, then 2015, an Igbo man will be president".
Mind you, he said these things in 2001. But in 2007, OBJ forced Yaradua and GEJ on Nigeria and we accepted it.
What PDP wanted to achieve was, after Yaradua 8 years, once power returns to South in 2015, Igbos will produce the president.
But death happened and the rest is history.
But during that time, ANPP had sent emissaries to Okadigbo, wooing him to join them.
So he was briefing his supporters on his next political journey, and he said.
"If ANPP wins election in 2003, after Buhari's 8 years, in 2011, power will return to South and South South has it".
This was where he stopped and ask those that have eyes to do 20 years forecast.
It was in 2015 after the election that I went to see one of Okadigbo boys. He's now a professor at Enugu state university of technology.
He told me about that puzzle the late Sage gave. I didn't even remember, until he reminded me.
This political scientist said "baring any death of the president, presidency will come to South East in 2023".
Why did I believe him?
Dr Akin Osutokun, former political adviser to OBJ, in his yesterday's reaction to Bisi Akande book posited thus; "in 2023, Nigeria will have 24 years of uninterrupted democracy. Out of this 24 years, OBJ did 8 years as president, Osibanjo would've done 8 years as VP. That 16 years; it would be unthinkable for power brokers to look the way of South West to take over from Buhari. He advised Tinubu to either throw his weight behind SE or risks losing everything (sic)".

Party Tickets
APC and PDP will give South East the ticket.
APC is becoming glaring going by the body language of the party leadership.
For instance, two weeks ago, Orji Kalu appealed to the party leaders to shift the convention.
Yesterday, 5 members of the party from North want the court to stop convention.
APC is divided between governors and others. The governors are incharge of the party now and they are ANPP members of the party.
In 2015
President candidate CPC
VP ACN
In 2023,
president candidate ANPP
VP CPC
The strong south in ANPP are Umahi and Ogbonnaya Onuh. Watch out these two.

PDP
They have a written constitution and zoning is included. So they will respect that or the party will die naturally.
But if they argue that the there's an exception to the zoning, just like we have now where they are not in power; and then zone to North.
The northerner will still not will(won't say more on this), but Just know that Nigeria is not U.S. where geopolitics has little or no effect.
So Igbos, don't worry about your voting strength, your population and other disadvantages, the election is us to lose.
Nigeria politics is not game of numbers as obtained in democracy, it is number of games.

Ok

Two things have twarthed Okadigbos predictions
1. Death of UMYA
2. GEJ insistence on running in 2015. Thats why most northerners turned against him.....all major political big wigs in the north in 2015 felt power should return to the north. If GEJ has heeded advice and not run....by 2023 when power is returning to the south it would have automatically been ibos turn IN PDP

As for APC power is going south BUT not south east

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Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by beerfraud: 6:41am On Jan 08, 2022
It is beerfraud or death
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 9:00am On Jan 08, 2022
Coldshisha:


To meet conditions of Consensus candidate, majority of each 774 party LGA party secretariat must authorise such, each State chapter must ratify and agree before INEC would allow such
These conditions are meet within 30 minutes before Congress. It's a non issue
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 9:24am On Jan 08, 2022
louqas:


Ok

Two things have twarthed Okadigbos predictions
1. Death of UMYA
2. GEJ insistence on running in 2015. Thats why most northerners turned against him.....all major political big wigs in the north in 2015 felt power should return to the north. If GEJ has heeded advice and not run....by 2023 when power is returning to the south it would have automatically been ibos turn IN PDP

As for APC power is going south BUT not south east
I'm made some forecast here and without sounding immodest, I always hit the target.
The politics of APC is easier to decode than PDP. PDP are mostly players and schemers. But APC are reactionaries who are always making daylight moves.
The game is like this:
SE/NE to balance power in the north and South.
National Chairman will come from NC.
When this happens, don't forget to acknowledge it.
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 9:27am On Jan 08, 2022
helinues:
For his mind now, this one self go dey call himself political analyst...

grin
grin grin grin I know it doesn't sit well with you. But that's how things will play out.
It's not my fault.
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by louqas: 9:28am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:

I'm made some forecast here and without sounding immodest, I always hit the target.
The politics of APC is easier to decode than PDP. PDP are mostly players and schemers. But APC are reactionaries who are always making daylight moves.
The game is like this:
SE/NE to balance power in the north and South.
National Chairman will come from NC.
When this happens, don't forget to acknowledge it.

I will if you are right

But im sure your prediction wont come true....Apc will zone its presidential ticket to south....and will most likely go to south west.....its national chairman will come from north central to counter pdp...most likely Akume from benue or someone from NC.
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by Nobody: 9:31am On Jan 08, 2022
If your forecast won't end in Tinubu becoming the president of the federal republic of Nigeria, then nah just nonsense.
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 9:33am On Jan 08, 2022
louqas:


I will if you are right

But im sure your prediction wont come true....Apc will zone its presidential ticket to south....and will most likely go to south west.....its national chairman will come from north central to counter pdp...most likely Akume from benue or someone from NC.
Why did the president as NASS to include CONSENSUS mode of primaries in electoral bill so he will sign it?
It's because the preferred person doesn't have the numbers, so he wants to use consensus to impose the person on the party.
The only without numbers in APC is South East. Like I said, watch out.
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by Nobody: 9:40am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:

Why did the president as NASS to include CONSENSUS mode of primaries in electoral bill so he will sign it?
It's because the preferred person doesn't have the numbers, so he wants to use consensus to impose the person on the party.
The only without numbers in APC is South East. Like I said, watch out.
Gibberish from an Ibo man as usual

How you guys feel the Islamic party will give their ticket to an Ibo man is just so funny grin

Are some of you guys always for real? grin
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 10:50am On Jan 08, 2022
DubaiLandLord:
If your forecast won't end in Tinubu becoming the president of the federal republic of Nigeria, then nah just nonsense.
At least you're becoming sensible. Not always trying to derail thread.
Tinubu president? How is that even possible to rational mind? It's hard sell for APC. Let's see:
Tinubu(Muslim) and (Muslim VP): he will lose Christians in Nigeria and Muslims from PDP VP candidate zone.
Tinubu (Muslim) and Christian VP: he will lose in SE and SS. And also lose Muslim in the north to Muslim VP.
So in all these, he is a misfit.
E shock you?. grin grin grin
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by louqas: 10:56am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:

Why did the president as NASS to include CONSENSUS mode of primaries in electoral bill so he will sign it?
It's because the preferred person doesn't have the numbers, so he wants to use consensus to impose the person on the party.
The only without numbers in APC is South East. Like I said, watch out.

You may be right but trust me if Apc gives to an iboman....they will lose.
The only thing the northern Pdp candidate need do is to appeal to sentiments and show his people all ipob atrocities against northerners..... the major parties know that FOR NOW an ibo candidate is a hard sell.... thats why people like me believe the ibos need to mend political fences....their behaviour since 2015 had done more harm than they think...

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Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by Reality3080: 11:06am On Jan 08, 2022
helinues:
For his mind now, this one self go dey call himself political analyst...

grin
mumu believing APC will give it's ticket to an igbo man that hates it with passion.

Even pdp will not dare try tgat with their vote apathy,imagine the percentage that voted in anambra election their most popular state then multiply it by 5 then u will know that any party tgat gives igbos his ticket has lost b4 d election n that's y they want both parties to field them.

Pdp will field a northerner with south south vp
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by Reality3080: 11:11am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:

I'm made some forecast here and without sounding immodest, I always hit the target.
The politics of APC is easier to decode than PDP. PDP are mostly players and schemers. But APC are reactionaries who are always making daylight moves.
The game is like this:
SE/NE to balance power in the north and South.
National Chairman will come from NC.
When this happens, don't forget to acknowledge it.
despite d way igbos hate pdp n treat them with disdain n never cared to hide it

Do u think APC can give it's ticket to an igbo man?
What if they give it to u n u punish them by voting another party?
Can u igbos allow a fulani to b d governor of anambra state?

The answer above will tell u if APC will give it's ticket to an igbo man
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 11:15am On Jan 08, 2022
louqas:


You may be right but trust me if Apc gives to an iboman....they will lose.
The only thing the northern Pdp candidate need do is to appeal to sentiments and show his people all ipob atrocities against northerners..... the major parties know that FOR NOW an ibo candidate is a hard sell.... thats why people like me believe the ibos need to mend political fences....their behaviour since 2015 had done more harm than they think...
So if PDP chose and IGBO man
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 11:18am On Jan 08, 2022
Reality3080:
despite d way igbos hate pdp n treat them with disdain n never cared to hide it

Do u think APC can give it's ticket to an igbo man?
What if they give it to u n u punish them by voting another party?
Can u igbos allow a fulani to b d governor of anambra state?

The answer above will tell u if APC will give it's ticket to an igbo man
The SW hated PDP, yet OBJ did two terms.
The NE were all in APC except Taraba, yet PDP gave Atiku ticket.
Why is this different with an Igbo man?
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by Reality3080: 11:37am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:

The SW hated PDP, yet OBJ did two terms.
The NE were all in APC except Taraba, yet PDP gave Atiku ticket.
Why is this different with an Igbo man?
stop avoiding d question, answer them
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 11:49am On Jan 08, 2022
Reality3080:
stop avoiding d question, answer them
I actually answered the question straight up
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by Reality3080: 11:52am On Jan 08, 2022
JaroMan:

I actually answered the question straight up
do igbos love APC?
Re: To Igbos; Who Believe Or Despair by JaroMan: 1:27pm On Jan 08, 2022
Reality3080:
do igbos love APC?
In politics, there's no love. It's a game of interest. Does Igbo have interest in APC? 100%

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