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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by samuk: 10:40am On Jan 16, 2022
RedboneSmith:


PS: I actually thought you were smarter and better-educated than the likes of Gregyboy and Samuk, but this response illustrates very clearly that all of you are connected to the same mother brain, because what is this off-point nonsense? grin grin

Provide the quote from Landolphe, and you went off and started ranting about Asari Dokubo and Ijaw having Igbo slaves, and Olaudah Equiano. What is the connection with the request made? Is Asari Landolphe? Are Ijaws the people of Benin and Ughoton?

Like I already said, it would have been better for you if you had just ignored and saved some face.

You shouldn't have mentioned me. You are the one that have been claiming that Zik wrote something in the 1930s which was different from his 1970 autobiography, despite my repeated request, have you provided the evidence. Your anti-Benin antics is very well known here.

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by Jameseddi1: 10:56am On Jan 16, 2022
Even Igala believe Benin dynasty once controlled their kingdom for 100 or 200 years. So why do the rest don’t want to accept this fact in history?

How can Benin control Lagos and didn’t control ondo Ekiti, did you know that you need to pass Ondo from Benin before you get to Lagos.

How can Benin at one time establish a dynasty in Igala without first setting it in Asaba onitcha? How can them even pass?

This means that Oba of Lagos and Zik of Africa never lied.

We all know that the great Benin empire has fallen but you peps should accept the fact that they were the greatest in history �� ✌️

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by RedboneSmith(m): 11:51am On Jan 16, 2022
samuk:


You shouldn't have mentioned me. You are the one that have been claiming that Zik wrote something in the 1930s which was different from his 1970 autobiography, despite my repeated request, have you provided the evidence. Your anti-Benin antics is very well known here.

The screenshot from the 1930s has been posted on this forum by myself multiple times. Every other person has seen it, except yourself because you are selectively blind. The threads I posted it on were threads that you and other Bini posters here were active on. So don't tell me you didn't see it. Will I post it again? I will be a mad person to keep posting the same screenshot over and over again.

My posts are still here, you can see the screenshot if you wish to, by searching through my profile. And I am sure you have seen it, you just pretend you haven't.

Me, anti-Benin? Lol. Don't make me laugh. grin

I am a truth teller, and I will tell anyone who cares to listen that Benin was one of the more remarkable societies of precolonial Nigeria. That is a fact no one can hide. My arguments with you people here have been on some unfounded claims that you people have made and continue to make about Benin and its relations with her neighbours.

I have also challenged Igbo, Yorubas and even Hausas on this forum about certain claims they have made about their people. Some Igbos till today on this forum still consider me an "Igbo hater" becauae I challenged their wrongful assertions on Igbo history. Apparently, the typical Nigerian reaction to criticism is to brand you a hater or an anti-X or an X-phobic person. All of you tire me. **rolls eyes**

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by RedboneSmith(m): 11:55am On Jan 16, 2022
Jameseddi1:


How can Benin at one time establish a dynasty in Igala without first setting it in Asaba onitcha? How can them even pass?

Idah is just across the Niger from Esan villages. Benin could access Idah (Igala) from their holdings in Esan land. They didn't need to secure Asaba and Onitsha first. That would be an unnecessarily long, circuitous and torturous path.

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by AreaFada2: 11:33pm On Jan 16, 2022
samuk:


You shouldn't have mentioned me. You are the one that have been claiming that Zik wrote something in the 1930s which was different from his 1970 autobiography, despite my repeated request, have you provided the evidence. Your anti-Benin antics is very well known here.

The guy is a clown. He thinks he can order anyone around to do his bidding.
The Igbo/Yoruba collabo over Benin Empire denial is very sweet, isn't it? Such collabo never leads to no good. Even way back Zik and Awo could not callobo to take 9ja forward. grin grin cheesy cheesy

They will soon be at each other's throat over Tinubu's presidency, IPOB/ESN and their other divisive antics. Their tribal divisiveness is what they want to spread to Edoid people. Failed mission.

I just come to laugh at them now and then these days. grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by RedboneSmith(m): 6:13am On Jan 17, 2022
AreaFada2:


The guy is a clown. He thinks he can order anyone around to do his bidding.
The Igbo/Yoruba collabo over Benin Empire denial is very sweet, isn't it? Such collabo never leads to no good. Even way back Zik and Awo could not callobo to take 9ja forward. grin grin cheesy cheesy

They will soon be at each other's throat over Tinubu's presidency, IPOB/ESN and their other divisive antics. Their tribal divisiveness is what they want to spread to Edoid people. Failed mission.

I just come to laugh at them now and then these days. grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Have you found the Landolphe quote yet, sir?

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by TAO11(f): 9:28am On Jan 17, 2022
RedboneSmith:
Have you found the Landolphe quote yet, sir?
Lmao

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by samuk: 4:30am On Jan 18, 2022
AreaFada2:


The guy is a clown. He thinks he can order anyone around to do his bidding.
The Igbo/Yoruba collabo over Benin Empire denial is very sweet, isn't it? Such collabo never leads to no good. Even way back Zik and Awo could not callobo to take 9ja forward. grin grin cheesy cheesy

They will soon be at each other's throat over Tinubu's presidency, IPOB/ESN and their other divisive antics. Their tribal divisiveness is what they want to spread to Edoid people. Failed mission.

I just come to laugh at them now and then these days. grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

These guys are jokers. He wants reference from you when I have been waiting almost 2 years for him to show me the reference to his claim that Zik's account of 1930s were different from his 1970 autobiography.
Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by RedboneSmith(m): 5:42am On Jan 18, 2022
samuk:


These guys are jokers. He wants reference from you when I have been waiting almost 2 years for him to show me the reference to his claim that Zik's account of 1930s were different from his 1970 autobiography.


In April of 2020, on a thread about Agbor, I mentioned you and added a screenshot from Zik's 1930s paper and included an explanation of the screenshot. I actually mentioned you , i.e., tagged your comment!

What did you do? You returned to the thread, responded to all the other comments that I mentioned you on, but you carefully avoided that particular one.

After a while, I asked you pointedly to respond to the screenshot that you ignored, and you gave an off-hand response, and since then have continued to act like the 1970s autobiography was the only time Zik ever talked about Onitsha origin.

Now, I hate repeating myself. If I show you now that I have actually shown you the screenshot before and you ignored it, what should happen to you?

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by sherlock229(m): 10:21am On Jan 28, 2022
Empire strength is determined by how much land they acquires and subjected,Oyo easily wins this..not even close ,not even close

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by Jameseddi1: 9:28pm On Jan 28, 2022
sherlock229:
Empire strength is determined by how much land they acquires and subjected,Oyo easily wins this..not even close ,not even close

Ekiti Lagos Ondo Benin empire.

How many state do Yoruba have again?

How really great was this your Oyo empire?
Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by TAO11(f): 9:56pm On Jan 28, 2022
Jameseddi1:
[s]Ekiti Lagos Ondo Benin empire.

How many state do Yoruba have again?

How really great was this your Oyo empire?[/s]

Jamessed1 & Binis: Benin empire kingdom conquered Ekiti, Lagos, and Ondo.

Ekiti, Lagos, Ondo: We were never conquered by Benin.

Jamessed1: Omg, I will commit suicide.

Me: What are you waiting for? grin

Cheers.
Cc: sherlock229
For a sneak peek into what Oyo empire was according to firsthand observers:

“The Yaribeans have the reputation of being the best bowmen in Africa; and the young men soon become excellent marksmen by frequent practice and steady perseverance, which latter is a virtue that falls to the lot of but few nations in the central parts. They amuse themselves daily by attempting to discharge arrows through a small hole made for the purpose in a wall, at a great distance from the standing ground, and I have frequently seen individuals accomplish this difficult task three successive times, when upwards of a hundred yards from the spot; but it requires great and unceasing practice to attain to so much perfection in the art.”

Richard Lander; Records of Captain Clapperton’s Last Expedition to Africa, Vol. 2., (1830), p. 222.

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Re: Nri, Benin Kingdom And The Oyo Empire Which Was The Most Powerful by seeme2(f): 10:18am On Nov 15, 2023
When will you Igbos get it into your heads that you were never a great people? We are here talking about empires you are bringing up Nri, always struggling to chill with the big boys. I tire for una matter o. undecided

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