God1000:
lol, I don't think so, they've even relocated from village to state capital where the wife just finished her degree program because of this issue, they somehow think it might be spiritual.
I can assure you that they married themselves as virgins

Convince them and help with finance if possible to try IVF.


It has nothing to do with spirituality or virginity.

anonimi:


You made so much sense I wish I could give you a million likes
Thank you madam doggedfighter.

Big hugs, dearie.


Have a great day.

God1000:
Wow, this is heartwarming, I pray that my brother and his wife will have their own soon.
They've been married since 2014, but the wife hasn't conceived yet.

it shall be unto u according 2your desire,wateva dat has locked d womb of yur brother's wife ova d years is opened nw!by dis time next yr she would be carrying her baby in JESUS NAME!AMEN.

Orissodiq:
I absolutely believe in miracle and that what God can not do doesn't exist (IVF) is a miracle on itself.
But how many of you have noticed that all these people claiming giving birth after long waiting are RICH & HAVE MORE THAN 1 KID?
So please we should stop headslaming d people that claim it's IVF. But why people always like to omitted the IVF part in their dedication? It's not bad even on a religions ground i believe so y are people seen it as a bad thing?

IVF is the miracle of people using their Godly talents and time instead of just waiting on God and shouting at Him for miracles that he won't do without the efforts of seed sowing through scientific thoughts and research

Zoharariel:


Wonderful! Don’t worry, leave them. In 10years time, the wife will convince the husband to “pause” religion and pay a courtesy visit to an IVF clinic.

It could even be earlier than that when the Husband impregnates another woman outside., But it's taking too long

I remember my Ex. After so many raw-cummin and no show, she confessed to me that she had a fibroid surgery about 4years before we met and the fibroid seemed to have grown back.

As an Akinkanju, I stood by her and tried convincing her to try traditional herbs that would incinerate & flush out the fibroid.

She said no! She would wait for Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

So, I did a quick mental calculation. 10years before the prayers ascend to Heaven due to traffic.

5years before the prayers are transferred & channeled to Jesus’ office.

Another 2years before Jesus’ instructions is received & executed by Angel Gabriel like he did to Mary in the Bible.

Then I told her that if I mistakenly or accidentally impregnate any woman outside, I would be blameless (I swear, I said this to her).

Her response was what scattered the relationship.

She said: “Are you dating me because of children or because you love me” ?

My response to her was harsh.

they are very educated people, my brother is doing his masters and wife just graduated from university, my brother sponsored her.

I can't say for now whether they have plan B or not, but it's taking too long.

God1000:
lol, I don't think so, they've even relocated from village to state capital where the wife just finished her degree program because of this issue, they somehow think it might be spiritual.
I can assure you that they married themselves as virgins

Ok.

The way you said “She hasn’t conceived “ made it seem like it was all about Her and Her ability to conceive. That’s why I tried to balance it with my suggestion.

Not sure how their marrying as virgins is relevant. But since you bring it up, maybe they haven’t really learnt how to do it right.

They should seek professional help, counseling and medicine, before they start jumping into conclusions that it is a spiritual issue. As far as we know , Sarah’s barrenness in the Bible was not a spiritual issue. Sometimes, it is just what it is.

I pray they have a breakthrough soon. But in the mean time, they should just focus on enjoying themselves and let go of the pressure.
All things will be made beautiful, in their time.

TheGift:


Ok.

The way you said “She hasn’t conceived “ made it seem like it was all about Her and Her ability to conceive. That’s why I tried to balance it with my suggestion.

Not sure how their marrying as virgins is relevant. But since you bring it up, maybe they haven’t really learnt how to do it right.

They should seek professional help, counseling and medicine, before they start jumping into conclusions that it is a spiritual issue. As far as we know , Sarah’s barrenness in the Bible was not a spiritual issue. Sometimes, it is just what it is.

I pray they have a breakthrough soon. But in the mean time, they should just focus on enjoying themselves and let go of the pressure.
All things will be made beautiful, in their time.

thanks

Vickyvice:
Thanks to doctor for making IVF possible, I hope one pastor no go come receive the thanks giving

Is it not the fault of the recipients/beneficiaries of the scientific research/breakthrough if they dash money to pastors and imams instead of sowing seeds into further research and/or making the IVF "miracle" available to more people who can't afford it

Silentmoni:
it shall be unto u according 2your desire,wateva dat has locked d womb of yur brother's wife ova d years is opened nw!by dis time next yr she would be carrying her baby in JESUS NAME!AMEN.

amen thanks

doggedfighter:


Convince them and help with finance if possible to try IVF.


It has nothing to do with spirituality or virginity.

I will do my best, thanks

TheGift:

Ok.

The way you said “She hasn’t conceived “ made it seem like it was all about Her and Her ability to conceive. That’s why I tried to balance it with my suggestion.

Not sure how their marrying as virgins is relevant. But since you bring it up, maybe they haven’t really learnt how to do it right.

They should seek professional help, counseling and medicine, before they start jumping into conclusions that it is a spiritual issue. As far as we know , Sarah’s barrenness in the Bible was not a spiritual issue. Sometimes, it is just what it is.

I pray they have a breakthrough soon. But in the mean time, they should just focus on enjoying themselves and let go of the pressure.
All things will be made beautiful, in their time.

You do well boss.

People should lean to be honest with their testimonies. If it was natural make it clear and if it was IVF make it clear also. It is still Gods doing.

God not is the greatest. Not pastors or doctors. They are just tools.

God1000:
I will do my best, thanks

Your mother raised a respectful man evidenced by the way you respond to people on this forum.

It's rare on this forum these days.


Keep being you.

Silentmoni:
it shall be unto u according 2your desire,wateva dat has locked d womb of yur brother's wife ova d years is opened nw!by dis time next yr she would be carrying her baby in JESUS NAME!AMEN.

And you think it's by these mere words you have typed?

It's this kind of nonsense words you said here that has prevented them from seeking realistic options. Stop deceiving people.

doggedfighter:


Your mother raised a respectful man evidenced by the way you respond to people on this forum.

It's rare on this forum these days.


Keep being you.

thanks dear, I appreciate

doggedfighter:




God did nothing.


I'm female and not oga.

He couldn't give them children for over 20 years but when the couple started IVF.

He had grace to give. He should hide his face in shame.

Scientists and doctors deserve all the glory in this case.

Madam, whatever works for you. My God is God in season and out of season and for those who know Him, we understand He works in due season. For those who don't know Him are those who arrogantly feel He must work according to their time table. Our duty as "His children" is to continue believing in Him. Note I'm not here to argue about God with you. If your heart has been seared with hot iron then peace be unto you because I have never seen this your scientists who deserves the glory create anything out of nothing. They work with resources created by God with wisdom given to them by the same God. If you must worship scientists then ask them to give you immortality. Anyway Jesus loves you shaa.

[quote author=God1000 post=109446835] they are doing everything within their capacity, it's not just bearing fruits[/quote

Better advice him to get someone pregnant outside..
Don't deceive yourself, as a man only two things woman can provide we truly value..
1. Peace of mind/loyalty/submissiveness
2.children
Enough of this for better for worse nonsense, try having a child outside n bring him/her home. Except he still has time n can wait for the Lord like this couple 20yr or more..
Better still go the ivf way

We

Mitsurugi:




Madam, whatever works for you. My God is God in season and out of season and for those who know Him, we understand He works in due season. For those who don't know Him are those who arrogantly feel He must work according to their time table. Our duty as "His children" is to continue believing in Him. Note I'm not here to argue about God with you. If your heart has been seared with hot iron then peace be unto you because I have never seen this your scientists who deserves the glory create out of nothing. Let scientists give us immortality na. Anyway Jesus loves you shaa.

Your God was waiting for them to die before giving them children?


20 years time table wasn't enough for him?


Making excuses for God comes with religion so I understand.

A crate of chilled Heineken and stout for you..
Logic over emotions..

Zoharariel:


Wonderful! Don’t worry, leave them. In 10years time, the wife will convince the husband to “pause” religion and pay a courtesy visit to an IVF clinic.

It could even be earlier than that when the Husband impregnates another woman outside.

I remember my Ex. After so many raw-cummin and no show, she confessed to me that she had a fibroid surgery about 4years before we met and the fibroid seemed to have grown back.

As an Akinkanju, I stood by her and tried convincing her to try traditional herbs that would incinerate & flush out the fibroid.

She said no! She would wait for Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

So, I did a quick mental calculation. 10years before the prayers ascend to Heaven due to traffic.

5years before the prayers are transferred & channeled to Jesus’ office.

Another 2years before Jesus’ instructions is received & executed by Angel Gabriel like he did to Mary in the Bible.

Then I told her that if I mistakenly or accidentally impregnate any woman outside, I would be blameless (I swear, I said this to her).

Her response was what scattered the relationship.

She said: “Are you dating me in order to have children or because you love me” ?

My response to her was harsh.

[quote author=playapayaski post=109447497][/quote]I don't think my brother will toe that line, he's a very Godly and principled man.

No woman is barren afterall.
Exodus 23:26.Non will miscarry or be barren in your land.

Joy cometh.... Congratulations

MrCover:
A 51-year-old Nigerian woman, Mrs Justina Bassey has welcomed a set of twins, boy and girl, after over 20 years of marriage.

Her Colleague, Felicia Simon Odey, Who shared the good news on Saturday, January 15.



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3042536869322335&id=100006981543036

Can we see her pregnancy pics?

What is science? You should have not put "but"like you said it's ok to praise God.God is Omni science. He answereth all things.The science we talked about is an inquisition about something from God,and he grant it .

ValCon888:
It's okay to praise God. But remember to give a pat on the back to science.

MrCover:
A 51-year-old Nigerian woman, Mrs Justina Bassey has welcomed a set of twins, boy and girl, after over 20 years of marriage.

Her Colleague, Felicia Simon Odey, Who shared the good news on Saturday, January 15.



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3042536869322335&id=100006981543036

Why is it that all of them looking for babies for donkey years always end up having twins , triplets or quadruplets

God1000:
they are doing everything within their capacity, it's not just bearing fruits

OK..FOR ME, I DONT THINK IVF IS A SIN...MY UNCLE WHO IS A PASTOR IN MFN CONCLUDED ON IVF AFTER 15 YEARS OF WAITING AND EVEN GAVE TESTIMONY IN CHURCH..THEIR BOY WILL CLOCK A YEAR IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS..

doggedfighter:
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Your God was waiting for them to die before giving them children?


20 years time table wasn't enough for him?


Making excuses for God comes with religion so I understand.

Madam I'm not making excuses for God. Who even does that? How can you make excuses for a being you can never have control over? I'm talking of my personal experience with Him. For example, there was a time I needed a car and house badly. I prayed, desired. It didn't come. But when God knew it was time I got them........ without sweat. In retrospect I found that having those things when I wanted them would have set me on a different trajectory from where I am today. In the period I tarried, I learned a lot, became more mature and I now handle what has been given me with responsibility. Like I said relationship with God is not selfish but submissive. My personal doctor has seen patient's ailments defy medicine but when he laid hands on them, his patients got healed. I ask again if IVF is devoid of God, why does it fail even in cases where l has been recertified over and over?

deeva2:


OK..FOR ME, I DONT THINK IVF IS A SIN...MY UNCLE WHO IS A PASTOR IN MFN CONCLUDED ON IVF AFTER 15 YEARS OF WAITING AND EVEN GAVE TESTIMONY IN CHURCH..THEIR BOY WILL CLOCK A YEAR IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS..

hopefully they think in that direction if the problem persist

God1000:
I don't think my brother will toe that line, he's a very Godly and principled man.

Too bad, no reasonable man should be too religious at these times.. it takes away your sense of reasoning.. anyways his choice but be a brother and advice him, at least do your part.
No man, I repeat no man should put up with a woman or make up excuses for her after 5yrs of marriage without a child. Except if and only if he is the problem, but if certified okay and he's still faithful n monogamous after 3-5yrs without looking the IVF way? Then sorry na him name

no picture of her with belle

God1000:
hopefully they think in that direction if the problem persist

I WISH THEM ALL THE VERY BEST AND BY GOD'S GRACE, THEIR TESTIMONY SHALL COME FORTH SOON IJN