Yoruba prince in Brazil, Candido da Fonseca Galvao

HRM Oba Giunëur Mõşi, direct descendant of 'Maroon King Barûle' and current Monarch of the Kingdom of Barûle (Biogeographic Chocó) and Oba of the Yorùbá People of Colombia.

http://www.kingdom.of.barule.org/kingdom_-_government_-_monarchy_-_noble_-_king_giuneur_i.htm

Yoruba owned nation outside Africa


Just some interesting read for some to appreciate this heritage.

kingdom of barule contain Igbos as well and other tribes

someone on the first page or in the other thread posted this link

but here's a screen cap from it:

Why is your language not mutually intelligible with Yoruba though if you only left 500 years ago?

That isn't a long period of time.

some Ewes might have Akan surnames as a result of this or recent mixing.

eku_bear: Why is your language not mutually intelligible with Yoruba though if you only left 500 years ago?

That isn't a long period of time.

It is actually if you are an Ogu dialect speaker, I for one can pick out works in it.

Interesting read..

eku_bear: Why is your language not mutually intelligible with Yoruba though if you only left 500 years ago?

That isn't a long period of time.

I'm not sure. I my Ewe is very minimal. I was born abroad.

But I am not making the claim that we are one in the same but moreso that we are related and I consider us the same..as culturally and spiritually there are a lot of similarities.

If there are two Yoruba sub-groups in Ghana - why do Ghanaians hate Nigerians??

They sure don't like us in the UK.. Only the fante people tolerate Nigerians..

this going to be my last post for a couple of hours as I wanna go watch this game lol



as you can see there is a genetic similarity as well

those are only paternal/y-dna though

we are all brothers and sisters...some are more closely related than others

shymmex: If there are two Yoruba sub-groups in Ghana - why do Ghanaians hate Nigerians??

They sure don't like us in the UK.. Only the fante people tolerate Nigerians..

I personally have nothing against Nigerians.

But I think some Ghanaians might dislike Nigerians due to reputation and perception. I know my parents told me that back in the day Ghanaians were expelled from Nigeria unfairly and some that remember that might not have a good view of you. But my parents don't have any problems..we have a Nigerian lawyer, close friends with Nigerians, shop at their stores,etc. But this is all in Canada. So I dunno how it is back home right now.

@shymmex

I wouldn't say we are a sub-tribe of the larger Yoruba group because that implies we are under you.

But we are related to you and were one at one point

But TODAY, Ewes move independently...but we acknowledge we are brothers with you.

Ghanaians don't hate Nigerians in the US.

A lot of the folk I kick it with on the weekends are Ghanaian..

Yewe2011: this going to be my last post for a couple of hours as I wanna go watch this game lol

Hehe I'm streaming it

Yewe2011:
I personally have nothing against Nigerians.

But I think some Ghanaians might dislike Nigerians due to reputation and perception. I know my parents told me that back in the day Ghanaians were expelled from Nigeria unfairly and some that remember that might not have a good view of you. But my parents don't have any problems..we have a Nigerian lawyer, close friends with Nigerians, shop at their stores,etc. But this is all in Canada. So I dunno how it is back home right now.

It's not really the young ones except banter.. But some of the parents do...

I remember one of my uncles was going to marry a Ghanaian girl, and the parents said no.. She can't marry a Nigerian.

I don't have a problem with Ghanaians, though... How can I have a problem with kind of chics you guys breed in that country lol...

I believe that, and there may be more history between Ghanaian and Nigerian tribes we do not know.

I remember watching a documentary about Ghana, where they went to talk to a family and they were talking in their dialect.
I swear it sounded so similar to Yoruba. I am not Yoruba or a Yoruba speaker, but even I could hear how close it sounded.

shymmex:

It's not really the young ones except banter.. But some of the parents do...

I remember one of my uncles was going to marry a Ghanaian girl, and the parents said no.. She can't marry a Nigerian.

I don't have problem with Ghanaians, though... How can I have a problem with kind of chics you guys breed in that country lol...

Be nice

eku_bear: Ghanaians don't hate Nigerians in the US.

A lot of the folk I kick it with on the weekends are Ghanaian..

Same here.

^-- Lol.

Aren't you booed up with a Ghanaian or something?


Yewe2011: Fwiw, you guys deported Nigerians (well, really Yoruba) en masse as well: http://www.imi.ox.ac.uk/pdfs/rasheed-olaniyi

So no one is really innocent in this.

Yewe2011:

I personally have nothing against Nigerians.

But I think some Ghanaians might dislike Nigerians due to reputation and perception. I know my parents told me that back in the day Ghanaians were expelled from Nigeria unfairly and some that remember that might not have a good view of you. But my parents don't have any problems..we have a Nigerian lawyer, close friends with Nigerians, shop at their stores,etc. But this is all in Canada. So I dunno how it is back home right now.

I think that it is wrong to hold Nigerians that were born in the late 70s and after accountable for the ghana-must-go saga. This is because those born between the late 70s to mid 80s were either infants or too young to understand world politics and nationality affiliation. You cannot hold a child accountable for the "sins" of the father. Besides, Ghana sent Nigeria packing first when they came up with some immigration law in the 60s that sent all Nigerians including those who were born and bred in ghana back to Nigeria. Unfortunately, a lot of ghanian parents leave out that part when narrating how Nigeria sent them packing in the early 80s.

I think both countries should bury the hatchet and let bygone be bygone. Those of us who are believers in Christ ask God for forgiveness for our sins all the time and African christians fill churches every sunday lifting up holy hands, yet we cannot forgive and let go of something that happened over 30 years ago? Africans!

As for reputation and perception, I can understand but stereotyping and prejudice get's us nowhere. For example, many white people in the western world automatically think that all black people who enter their stores are there to steal and hence follow us around like a dog expecting a juicy bone from his owner. As black people, I know that we don't find their warped, prejudiced, wicked stereotype about us funny. So, then why do we tag our fellow Africans with negative stereotypes? So, because I was brought into this wicked and confused world by a Nigerian man and woman, that now means in the mind of the average ghanian that I must be a 419 scammer? May God help us all. I will be sure to keep my distance from you all.

ekt_bear: ^-- Lol.

Aren't you booed up with a Ghanaian or something?


Yewe2011: Fwiw, you guys deported Nigerians (well, really Yoruba) en masse as well: http://www.imi.ox.ac.uk/pdfs/rasheed-olaniyi

So no one is really innocent in this.

Well said and thanks for providing the link.

alj harem:
With that said, it is quite unfortunate that the ones closer to home (Binis) are in denial. Maybe it has to do with the way Nigeria is who knows. Anyway goodluck to them.

This again? It doesn't matter if the king originates from Yorubaland or if the Binis were ever at Ife. At the end of the day, we're not Yoruba today even if some were, which is doubtful, and we don't want to claim such. End of. Focus on Ewe.

The Ewe are closer to the Fon than the Yorubas by the way, but they're claiming Yorubas pushed them out of their original homeland. I don't see what connection they have to Yoruba other than that and this thread hasn't done much to elaborate on any further connections.

PhysicsQED:

This again? It doesn't matter if the king originates from Yorubaland or if the Binis were ever at Ife. At the end of the day, we're not Yoruba today even if some were, which is doubtful, and we don't want to claim such. End of. Focus on Ewe.

The Ewe are closer to the Fon than the Yorubas by the way, but they're claiming Yorubas pushed them out of their original homeland. I don't see what connection they have to Yoruba other than that and this thread hasn't done much to elaborate on any further connections.

we are one Mr igbo.You can't divide us we're from one source though our language may mutate due to expansion but we are still one , keeping history is our way of live, go to Caribbean /south America you'll see us there still keeping the history, That's why you see Togolese Beninese live among us blend without knowing the differences they can even claim Nigeria because we see them as our kins but you igbo are hostile and tribal

Let each person answer their papa name. Yoruba is Yoruba, Ewe/ewa/eweko/ewele/were is ewe/ewa/eweko/ewele/were. Please leave us Yoruba alone. Just leave us alone for gods sake. We dont want some dirty, stupidddd, cultureless, ugly people diluting our pure heritage.

We the best!

Obalufon: we are one Mr igbo.You can't divide us we're from one source though our [b]language may mutate [/b]due to expansion but we are still one , keeping history is our way of live, go to Caribbean /south America you'll see us there still keeping the history, That's why you see Togolese Beninese live among us blend without knowing the differences they can even claim Nigeria because we see them as our brother but you igbo are hostile and tribal

Mutate ko, RNAi ni. ode oshi.

eku_bear: Ghanaians don't hate Nigerians in the US.

A lot of the folk I kick it with on the weekends are Ghanaian..

You aren't really Nigerian though so you don't count. Its time you started speaking for yourself, and less on behalf of Nigerians.

Yewe2011: this going to be my last post for a couple of hours as I wanna go watch this game lol



as you can see there is a genetic similarity as well

those are only paternal/y-dna though

we are all brothers and sisters...some are more closely related than others

Well, you dont seem to understand the concept of haplotype, SNPs, haplogroups, Tandem repeats, Satellite and microsatellite repeats, LNPs, recombination, cross-overs etc. So posting that nonsense isnt gonna help advance your argument one bit because individuals with a similar Y -haplotype do not necessarily share a similar ancestry or geographical location. Y-Short Tandem Rrepeats events are not unique. Instead, the clusters of Y-Short Tandem Reapets haplotype results inherited from different events and different histories tend to overlap over time. The same nonsense you posted up there is present in Indians, Caucasians and Chimpazees. A single haplogroup doesnt tell you much, you have to put a lot of shyt together and research is still at the early stage. I hate when dumbos like you just copy and paste shytt off the internet.

Geographically, the Yoruba people can be found around the Niger-Benue confluence at the Northeast limit. Dialects such as Kabba, Yagba and Oworo are present there. They occupy most of Kwara state and the whole of the South-West geopolitical zone in Nigeria. Yoruban peoples are also present in Benin republic and southern Togo.. The Aja, the Ewe and Ga peoples can be considered as Yoruba, or at least, some of their founding fathers spoke Yoruboid language or practiced Yorubic culture. The Itsekiri ethnic group of Delta, and Edo states, the Kanuri of the Chad basin, Igala of Kogi and the Ebbu and Olukumi of the Delta state of Nigeria are also Yoruban peoples. So, today, the Yoruban peoples, the Yorubic culture and the Yoruboid languages stretch from the Ramos and Dodo rivers in the north western fringe of Bayelsa State to the Ga of Accra area of modern Ghana. They are also found in Sierra Leone and other parts of the subcontinent.

. . . Musiwa, please give us a visual, let's see the coverage, use the above to give us Yorubaland on a map of West Africa.

Greetings to all here. Wanted to post a picture of a king here in america and I found his story interesting. He is actually from america. He is a king in the Fon/Dahomean tradition and I understand that the Fon and Yoruba people are related to one another. www.newafrikanvodun.com/nav/dahosu2. He is His Royal Majesty Agelo Djisovi Sagbaju Agbovi I.

Greetings to the African family. I love the knowledge sharing and info here. I plan on really exploring this forum. I ran across a very interesting new site when I was looking up information on our African royal institutions. The name of the site is Afrikan Royals and the address is www.afrikanroyals.com