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Wilddove:
your instinct is Totally wrong, common! to what end? Haba! Is it because it's a faceless forum, thats why you type whatever you feel

Wilddove:
'money is physical substance that serves physical purpose' no objections. Now who or what is God? God is a spirit being. And what does that mean? It means that God is timeless, spaceless and matterless, he is not a physical entity that should be placed in the laboratory for scientists to experiment. This implies that a spiritual substance must be involved to get to this being and that substance is FAITH. Faith is the established route to God. That was why i compared the two, (earthly) 'money' and (heavenly) 'faith'. Faith is the heavenly currency.

Wilddove:
'It means that God is timeless, spaceless and matterless,.

killyaselfie:
Perfect description of Nothing.

Wilddove:
What practical back up you need?

Wilddove:
That's your intuition i guess. It actually means that Dog is not made up of matter and therefore, not restricted by time and space. They are outside of the space.

MaxInDHouse:
There are over 41,000 sects claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines in the name of denominations.
Each of them have practical application of their brand of Christianity.
Going to Church (worship centers) to pray, sing, dance, shout some slogans and pay some dues.
Anyone attending such centers can claim being a Christian since those worshiping there called the place "Church"
But when Jesus commissioned this movement he ordered his followers to carry out a task which inhabitants of Antioch noticed before they called Jesus' disciples "CHRISTIANS" {Act 11:26} So what are the "ACTS" as in "PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS" that you and your co-worshipers engage to prove that you're also one of the "CHRISTIANS"
Remember the group is called "CHRISTIANS" so you must be recognized with the group practicing what Jesus laid down before you can truly claim you belong to CHRIST.
There is no isolation in this case!

killyaselfie:
I agree.

Wilddove:
I gave u my explanations based on ur maturity and sagaciousity, becos i believed u're eating solid food and not milk, but it seems u made no sense out of it. So then Elaborate what Jesus laid down and differentiate it from what i gave you

advanceDNA:
No be only Jehovah witness go inherit God’s kingdom...
you JWs like discrediting other people in the body of Christ and making your self look like you are the only one serving God..
You are already trying to tell the guy he’s not a a true follower of Jesus or God the father because he’s not JW
Last last, God no go judge us by church...

MaxInDHouse:
It's not about JW but what Jesus commanded that stands as the IDENTIFYING MARK of his group! Act 1:8

Wilddove:
Why change the spelling of God to dog? U don't have to go this extreme. Pls modify it, becos it's eye sore.

Wilddove:
That's your intuition i guess. It actually means that Dog is not made up of matter and therefore, not restricted by time and space. They are outside of the space.

advanceDNA:
Identifying mark....??

Maximus....is acts 1:8 the only thing Jesus mentioned in the four gospel to identify those that are his?? Even if acts 1:8 is the only identifying mark of his group...na only JW get identifying mark??

Continue God is watching all of us

MaxInDHouse:
It's you who is saying "only JW" because Jesus actually said there will be false religionists claiming CHRISTIANS {Matthew 7:21-23} and false religious leaders misleading many! Matthew 24:11

That's why Jesus emphasized on IDENTIFYING MARK of his own group! John 13:34-35, 15:12

So whoever wants to debunk or dismiss Jesus' statement on IDENTIFYING MARK of his true disciples need to watch himself if he truly love JESUS because that name is heard both far and near but there is lots of contradictions making it difficult for anyone to know what Jesus really asked his disciples to keep doing as their assigned duty!

advanceDNA:
I said only JW
because u always say other body of Christ are not following Jesus except yours because of acts 1 :8 that you are fallaciously claiming is only in your group

advanceDNA:
No be only Jehovah witness go inherit God’s kingdom...

you JWs like discrediting other people in the body of Christ and making your self look like you are the only one serving God..

You are already trying to tell the guy he’s not a a true follower of Jesus or God the father because he’s not JW

Last last, God no go judge us by church...

killyaselfie:
I didn’t change the spelling of God. We are talking about the Almighty God. The only true God who is timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. Just like you wrote below.

killyaselfie:
I didn’t change the spelling of God. We are talking about the Almighty God. The only true God who is timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. Just like you wrote below.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus ordered his followers to go and make disciples, baptize them and continue teaching them to keep the hope of everlasting life.
Matthew 10:11-13; 24:14; 28:19-20

He emphasized that it will be difficult for Love to reign in their midst if they're part of the world (racial/political system of the world) John 17:14-16

Jesus taught them to love their neighbours like themselves {Mark 12:31} but within themselves they must love fellow believers the same way Jesus loves them! John 13:13-14

They are to become one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4} so everywhere they meet fellow believers they must treat one another like real families! Matthew 12:46-50

They mustn't support killings no matter how other people feels a Christian must not carry weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52

So with all these commandments from their Master, Lord and King {John 15:14} they will be known as a group totally different from all the races throughout the world! Matthew 5:14-16

Well that's what Christianity can mean for you not just FAITH by month {Matthew 15:8} without visible WORKS! James 2:18-26

Abovebest:
And How can you forget to add the signs that follows Believers?

Mark 16:15-20
[15]And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
[16]He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
[17]And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
[18]They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
[19]So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
[20]And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.


Does signs follow you sir?

MaxInDHouse:
Those verses were added after Marks account has been completed. They're not found in older manuscripts of the gospel account of Mark.

Do your own research and you will found out that the Bible book of Mark 16 ended in verse 8

The truth is that Jesus never said all believers will perform miracles because that gift belongs only to the descendants of Jacob.
You will never find any prophet from another race apart from Israel neither can you find any performing miracles except Israelites in the Bible!

Abovebest:
You're sounding off point sir

Then Salvation and the Bible is only for the Israelites sir

Did the Early Christians perform Miracles?
Do we still have Miracles today?

Is there any Scriptures that teaches Miracles are only for the descendants of Jacob?



1 Corinthians 12:1,7-13
[1]Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
[7]But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
[8]For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9]To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
[10]To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
[11]But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
[12]For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
[13]For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The working of Miracles is for everyone sir

MaxInDHouse:
We learn not only through the letters but by meditating thoroughly on events recorded in the Bible because it's the handiwork of God's Holy Spirit! 2Corinthians 3:6
If no miracles were recorded as performed by any other race apart from the Israelites and Jesus said:
“I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:24

Remember Jesus is the person who will approve whatever we ask from his father, here he is saying regarding miracles he is sent only to the Israelites!
That's why miraculous works stopped after the destruction of Jerusalem because the race God promised miraculous works has been dismissed! 1Corinthians 13:8-10
Today the only sign left to IDENTIFY true believers is LOVE! John 13:34-35; 1Corinthians 13:13

Everyone wants a quick solution to his/her problems in a miraculous way but the truth is that God never promised any other race such supernatural signs except the children of Israel:

“I will pour out some of my spirit on every sort of flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy and your young men will see visions and your old men will dream dreams, and even on my male slaves and on my female slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy"
Act 2:17-18 compare to Joel 2:28-30

That promise was made only to one race: THE ISRAELITES!

Wilddove:
God have mercy

killyaselfie:
May Dog have mercy on you.

Abovebest:
You didn't explain 1cor 12 sir?

MaxInDHouse:
1Corinthians 12 was written to help those that joined the Christian congregation understand what is happening as they're seeing humans like themselves having different supernatural gifts, so when majority of them thought such gifts is for everyone Paul made them realize that it's for a purpose and after the purpose has been met such signs will end! 1Corinthians 13:8-13

Wilddove:
i'm not surprised at all, because that was exactly what some christian counterpart said when i denounced christainity. Go check my previous topics. Infact there was a point in time in my life that i was very certain that the concept of God was rubbish and man-made, How i got delivered still puzzled me, if i were'nt a real atheist before nothing would've prompted me to open my previous threads. Nevertheless it's well my sister i know you may never understand

Abovebest:
Where did Paul say such signs will end?

MaxInDHouse:
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. 1 Corinthians 13:8-13

The signs served two purposes:
(1) To alert honest hearted and sincere Jews that the promise of Christ has been fulfilled so the door to join in becoming prospective co-rulers with the Christ is opened! Act 2:39

(2) To help in the completion of sacred writings (scriptures)

So after these two purposes has been met then all those SIGNS WILL CEASE! 1Corinthians 13:9-10

Mind you there's nobody who wouldn't like the miracles to continue after all we need it but the truth is that these things happened in the first century for a purpose and after the purpose has been met it's no longer available!