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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:23pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Did you know that no team in AFCON history has ever reached the final after a perfect group stage?

You clearly didn't do enough research to realise how fallacious this take is.

Egypt in 2010 did it where? At the Arab Cup?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:23pm On Jan 24, 2022
PurpleHouse:


That was no tactics. It was just willpower and gusto to give their all, of their own free will and commitment.

Unfortunately, football does not work like that. Players most times play to instructions and the tactics yesterday were good.

You can not praise the players for playing well and claim the tactics were poor. It does not work like that

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:24pm On Jan 24, 2022
I agree before Maduka's mistake how many clear shots at goal did Tunisia have? Their is no guarantee Ajayi would have been miles better. Abi is it not the same Semi who's momentary slip allowed the GB forward almost through on goal?

That's why I don't like doing too much hindsight analysis

TheGoodJoe:


The defense did well. Our problem was us not taking our chances. So bringing Semi Ajayi would not have yielded much difference. Omeruo was good defensively. The long balls were just a plus to make things happen up front.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:25pm On Jan 24, 2022
PurpleHouse:
Eguavoen is a good coach, a suburb coach.

He was just tacticsly outclassed last night. Or should I say, he played the wrong tactics and failed to utilize the element of surprise in his approach to the game. Dude was too predictable from the onset by the opposing team.

Where you guys get this tactically outclass from beats me. We were the better side. So Eguavoen was not tactically outclassed.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 1:29pm On Jan 24, 2022
Papi85:
nothing like inferiority complex in the teams play, they were only outclassed tactically

Also subbing chukwueze for Chidera wouldn’t hv made any difference because both are similar

A case where the to flank players deployed were caged by the Tunisians what eguavoen needed was to instruct Moses Simon to dribble less and tuck in to the middle a bit then bring in an iwobi for chukwueze who naturally loves to drift to the middle from the flank to link up play with the forwards

An Onyeka pairing ndidi will automatically block the Tunisians from penetrating through the middle while aribo will be deployed as the teams AM and instructed to be present in the oppositions box when ever the team is attacking as well as track back to thicken the middle when the team losses possession


How can you call a win that was due to goalkeeping error mean they outclassed the SE ...

The SE weren't outclassed , their performance was below par compared to what they played in the group stages.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 1:31pm On Jan 24, 2022
From our first game to the last our midfield have been thin and I knew it will be exposed when we meet a tactically sound opposition

In our games you will find out that ndidi and aribo do the work of breaking play and linking the middle and the forward while iheanacho ghosts around waiting for the ball to fall to his feet

Football nowadays are won in the middle and anything with a superior midfield has the upper hand mostly in games

Our best midfield trio in the competition would have been ndidi as a DM, Onyeka as a box/box midfielder then aribo as a 10 or 8. The reason I will pick aribo ahead of iheanacho is his ability to track back to help the team and also he is more mobile than iheanacho

Even I would prefer starting iwobi in the 10 role than iheanacho

Iheanacho is a lovely player but off the ball he offers nothing.

The reason we saw the best of aribo and ndidi in this competition is because both were over worked and stressed

But shun aribo na luxury abeg, that guy na rolls Royce of a midfielder and I can’t wait for him to make the big leap to the epl as rumoured

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 1:33pm On Jan 24, 2022
One of the best clips from this AFCON. Those backflips.

https://mobile.twitter.com/VliegendeKeeper/status/1485326230031323137
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:33pm On Jan 24, 2022
Meliforme:


I remember you used the Algerian situation to warn against this outcome.
This is not our best starting eleven.

We kept talking about the influence of Nwakali, and what the team really needs.
The truth is not always with the majority.

Thank you Meli. I did use the Algerian struggle to hint at our own problem in sticking to a false sense of our "Winning XI".

That first XI is not even our strongest looking at this squad from tactical POVs. But ofcos most in here didn't get the hidden message.

I will always stay optimistic no matter what but I did warn that we needed a tweak in our tactical approach.

I even dropped an optaanalyst graphical take on our playing style at this Afcon which I wasn't comfortable with. We were sacrificing control and creativity through the middle for a direct altered form of Route-one approach to our games.
Get the balls to the CBs... let them kick it upfield swiftly to the Wingers (especially Simon), then the Wingers use their pace and trickery to get the ball into the box where the attack overload awaits to pounce and make good use of.

It worked against Egypt because they didn't know what to expect from a new coach in Eguavoen. It worked against Sudan because they are of lesser quality who knew what we wanted to do but just didn't have the quality or tactical knowhow to stop it.

Then we meet an average Tunisian team with the tactical discipline to simply double/triple up on our Wingers and it was game over for us because Ndidi and Aribo don't have the ability to create or run plays through the middle.

I spoke about it but many didn't understand.

I even did a large tactical analysis thread on this on twitter before our Sudan game. On how important it was to drop one player between Awo and Iheanacho to enable us switch to a tactically balanced Midfield 3 that would share the weight of the creative burden with the Wingers and control the plays also and switch plays at will but noooo... it didn't fly here but many on twitter liked and retweeted one of the posts on the thread where I dropped the main MF linkup. Shows that many still understood but sadly, Eguavoen didn't.

It is well. We move.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:35pm On Jan 24, 2022
M7even:
The only reaason why this defeat hurts me is that the hype on this team plus the expectation on them was too much to have them get knocked outt against a depleted Tunisian side
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:35pm On Jan 24, 2022
Same mistake.

An Ndidi-Onyeka-Aribo MF won't be able to orchestrate plays through the middle or switch plays at will. Una no dey learn. But it's fine. Keep judging football based on where player A plays or where Player B features while you ignore the actual and specific skillsets of the lads involved.

Una no dey ever Learn. grin


Papi85:
From our first game to the last our midfield have been thin and I knew it will be exposed when we meet a tactically sound opposition

In our games you will find out that ndidi and aribo do the work of breaking play and linking the middle and the forward while iheanacho ghosts around waiting for the ball to fall to his feet

Football nowadays are won in the middle and anything with a superior midfield has the upper hand mostly in games

Our best midfield trio in the competition would have been ndidi as a DM, Onyeka as a box/box midfielder then aribo as a 10 or 8. The reason I will pick aribo ahead of iheanacho is his ability to track back to help the team and also he is more mobile than iheanacho

Even I would prefer starting iwobi in the 10 role than iheanacho

Iheanacho is a lovely player but off the ball he offers nothing.

The reason we saw the best of aribo and ndidi in this competition is because both were over worked and stressed

But shun aribo na luxury abeg, that guy na rolls Royce of a midfielder and I can’t wait for him to make the big leap to the epl as rumoured

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 1:36pm On Jan 24, 2022
codemaniacs:


How can you call a win that was due to goalkeeping error mean they outclassed the SE ...

The SE weren't outclassed , their performance was below par compared to what they played in the group stages.
which keeping error are you talking about? That was a swerved low rocket which will expose a lot of keepers. Am not trying to make a case for okoye but many goalies will be expose by that low drive

Also the midfield and defense didn’t provide any cover


Bros that game was won tactically by the Tunisians and from the very start of the game their game plan was obvious which is to hit us on counter

A tactical superior team doesn’t mean he will take over possession entirely but the work but in place when with the ball and off it as well

They carried their game plan perfectly by clipping our wings and wait for us on counter through the middle after noticing we normally hv only 2 players in that part of the pitch

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 1:38pm On Jan 24, 2022
Before we start getting it right at senior level we must change our understand and approach to football Okoye has no business with the Super eagles for now when we Afelokhai,Olorunleke Ojo and other goal keepers doing well in NPFL. Our obsession with European based players even when they are not matured enough is killing our football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:38pm On Jan 24, 2022
12large1:
As for iheanacho, if coaches cannot play him as a Top 9, let him be benched. Coaches trying fit iheanacho on the team has resulted in us having an imbalanced squad. Iheanacho you’re now competing for a position with Osimehn. You’re not a midfilder
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 1:40pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Same mistake.

An Ndidi-Onyeka-Aribo MF won't be able to orchestrate plays through the middle or switch plays at will. Una no dey learn. But it's fine. Keep judging football based on where player A plays or where Player B features while you ignore the actual and specific skillsets of the lads involved.

Una no dey ever Learn. grin


oga forget that your orchestrating abi orchestra

In modern football creativity mustn’t come from the middle, aribo is creative enough to provide chances for the team and his assist rate since he joined rangers is testament to this claim. Also he had an assist in the competition as well

Na una hunger of fancy football all the time put eguavoen for pressure to make u guys happy

In knock out stages of competitions against certain oppositions you need to play dirty if required to come top

We were better than the Tunisians who had only one shot on target but utilized it so where is your team now with the dozen of chances created and impressive possession stat?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chidi1: 1:40pm On Jan 24, 2022
With regards to yesterday's match. Please refer to my earlier post in September expressing my concerns with this Okoye guy. I copied the write up for easier reference..... I rest my case.....


Nice write up! However, I still have a reservation. Unfortunately I am not completely sold with this Okoye guy as our goalkeeper. His conceded goals appear really soft ( Please rewatch the highlights of his conceded goals to appreciate my concern). I literally shake in fear whenever our opponents are close to our goal post in any match. Any bad day by our defense and you see exactly what I mean ( the Sierra leonian game comes to mind).

There is a saying that goes thus "if it is not broken, don't fix it." Why would Rohr replace Uzoho who was doing a very good job and improving with every match with this Okoye guy ( Please rewatch the Ukraine and Brazil friendly game to see what I mean).

Going back to your article, no mater how good a team is, you cannot win any laurel with an inept goalkeeper guarding your goalpost.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 1:41pm On Jan 24, 2022
Papi85:
which keeping error are you talking about? That was a swerved low rocket which will expose a lot of keepers. Am not trying to make a case for okoye but many goalies will be expose by that low drive

Also the midfield and defense didn’t provide any cover


Bros that game was won tactically by the Tunisians and from the very start of the game their game plan was obvious which is to hit us on counter

A tactical superior team doesn’t mean he will take over possession entirely but the work but in place when with the ball and off it as well

They carried their game plan perfectly by clipping our wings and wait for us on counter through the middle after noticing we normally hv only 2 players in that part of the pitch


The shot wasn't a strong shot..

it was goalkeeping error..

The same okoye saved another shot stronger than the shot that won the match...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 1:42pm On Jan 24, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Fluke win over Egypt ?

Smh

Yes. Fluke. Tactical fluke.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:43pm On Jan 24, 2022
Barrister026:


OKOYE is an Amateur

EVERYONE KNOWS, BUT CHOSED TO IGNORE.




TUNISIA REALIZE WE HAD NO GOAL KEEPER, AFTER THE GOAL, THEY KEPT ON FIRING SHOT TO OUR GOAL POST FROM A DISTANCE




TRUTH IS WE were playing with NO GOAL KEEPER, JUST DEFENSE cheesy
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 1:48pm On Jan 24, 2022
CaptainStephen:
To be fair on okoye, defender failed to close down that shot on time.

I don't understand why are dropping all blames on him.

Aina and Ndidi should be getting the stick for failing to close down too.
stop capping nonsense, the fault is 100% okoye's.an amateur goalkeeper will save that shot easily

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:49pm On Jan 24, 2022
Odunayaw:
Although we weren't in "control" but no one can tell me there was any pressure to make changes. Tunisia scored 47'! Bloody two mins into 2nd half.
It's not hard to imagine the coach must have corrected the boys in the dressing room and was waiting to see if his instructions will be carried out AND then boom...Okoye messes up
I’m certain some people think it’s PlayStation and not real life
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 1:53pm On Jan 24, 2022
embarassed

super Eagles did me dirty
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:54pm On Jan 24, 2022
Papi85:
oga forget that your orchestrating abi orchestra

In modern football creativity mustn’t come from the middle, aribo is creative enough to provide chances for the team and his assist rate since he joined rangers is testament to this claim. Also he had an assist in the competition as well

Na una hunger of fancy football all the time out eguavoen for pressure to make u guys happy

In knock out stages of competitions against certain oppositions you need to play dirty if required to come top


Iwobi that haven't created one chance at this Afcon was subbed in and HE DID what??
Had Zero chances created. Has the least touches of the ball in our last game vs Bissau pre-tunisia and offers Zero defensive contributions was subbed in and HE DID PLAY DIRTY grin

Guess where that "dirty play" left us... grin With a red card and a ticket back home. grin

Ofcos you will leave out the midfield orchestration talk because it doesn't suit your agenda. We left it out and we saw how ineffective Aribo was yesterday. Aribo was rubbish especially in the first half. Do you admit this?

Aribo had Zero tackles made, Zero interceptions made.. created Zero chances all in that first half where Ndidi was doing it all by himself.
But ofcos because we have many Anti-Nwakali folks here, you guys didn't mention that or just didn't want to spot it. If Nwakali dropped the sort of performance Aribo dropped yesterday, you all would he crying blood on Nwakali's head.


In the end, you say Aribo is creative enough right? Okay, how many chances did he and Ndidi muster up or create through the middle through the middle to our advantage yesterday with our wings locked out? How many??

We clearly needed the midfield to step up yesterday and provide something creative through the middle with the Tunisians clearly shutting down our wings which has been our go-to plan for attacking plays and creativity all tournament but noooooo... they couldn't. because it is just not in their skillset.



You will only keep living in denial. But you see the Nwakali you hate so much. Dude leaves this tournament as Nigeria's highest Big chances creator at Afcon2021 and among our highest chances creator despite having lesser mins than all MFs except Onyeka (who is not so adept offensively as he is defensively).

So keep shutting your eyes to facts aiit. Judging football by "I play for Brentford and you play for huesca" Loollll

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 1:57pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheSuperNerd:


Iwobi that haven't created one chance at this Afcon was subbed in and HE DID what??
Had Zero chances created. Has the least touches of the ball in our last game vs Bissau pre-tunisia and offers Zero defensive contributions was subbed in and HE DID PLAY DIRTY grin

Guess where that "dirty play" left us... grin With a red card and a ticket back home. grin

Ofcos you will leave out the midfield orchestration talk because it doesn't suit your agenda. We left it out and we saw how ineffective Aribo was yesterday. Aribo was rubbish especially in the first half. Do you admit this?

Aribo had Zero tackles made, Zero interceptions made.. created Zero chances all in that first half where Ndidi was doing it all by himself.
But ofcos because we have many Anti-Nwakali folks here, you guys didn't mention that or just didn't want to spot it. If Nwakali dropped the sort of performance Aribo dropped yesterday, you all would he crying blood on Nwakali's head.

In the end, you say Aribo is creative enough right? Okay, how many chances did he and Ndidi muster up or create through the middle through the middle to our advantage yesterday with our wings locked out? How many??

[s]We clearly needed the midfield to step up yesterday and provide something creative through the middle with the Tunisians clearly shutting down our wings which has been our go-to plan for attacking plays and creativity all tournament but noooooo... they couldn't. because it is just not in their skillset.
[/s]


You will only keep living in denial. But you see the Nwakali you hate so much. Dude leaves this tournament as Nigeria's highest Big chances creator at Afcon2021 and among our highest chances creator despite having lesser mins than all MFs except Onyeka (who is not so adept offensively as he is defensively).

So keep shutting your eyes to facts aiit. Judging football by "I play for Brentford and you play for huesca" Loollll


and who is the midfielder to step up?

nwakali abi

enter bush chop shit abeg

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 2:02pm On Jan 24, 2022
For those who have DSTV, the game is showing again. Perhaps watching again without pressure and a clear head will allow people see the game as it really was.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 2:02pm On Jan 24, 2022
bro the thing pain me for night i use vex sleep

though i sensed it coming cheesy
Samueltemi337:
embarassed


super Eagles did me dirty

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:02pm On Jan 24, 2022
Papi85:
oga forget that your orchestrating abi orchestra

In modern football creativity mustn’t come from the middle, aribo is creative enough to provide chances for the team and his assist rate since he joined rangers is testament to this claim. Also he had an assist in the competition as well

Na una hunger of fancy football all the time put eguavoen for pressure to make u guys happy

In knock out stages of competitions against certain oppositions you need to play dirty if required to come top

We were better than the Tunisians who had only one shot on target but utilized it so where is your team now with the dozen of chances created and impressive possession stat?






What game did you watch? Did you miss the part where Ndidi saved Okoye's blushes in the first half with that goalline block/clearance?

Tunisia had 3 shots on target man. We only had ONE. One!!! Zero shots on target sef in the first half alone.

So what nonsense are you even saying??

We even had more possession but we clearly didn't use most of it through the middle. We were clueless through the middle.

Our best game remains the second team that played vs Bissau. We were so tidy in possession yet so creative going forward. We hurt them from so many parts of the pitch and not just through the wings.
We diversified in that game and how Eguavoen failed to mix it up to confound the tunisians when he knew they would be ready to match the tactics of the first XI really shows how monotonous his tactical approach was.

He didn't have a good contingency plan. It's funny funny I had 2 and he as coach had none. Funny.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:05pm On Jan 24, 2022
charlesemeka85:
[s]and who is the midfielder to step up?

nwakali abi

enter bush chop shit abeg[/s]

The stats say so. Eye test says so and our game plays in the 3 group games say so especially with the Bissau game showing a different approach we had.

But ofcos, things like this are lost on you coz you don't know anything more than shit. grin

Onu ojoo with no true football knowledge. Just vibes here and there. grin

Rohr's long lost BRDC son. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:08pm On Jan 24, 2022
TheSuperNerd:


You clearly didn't do enough research to realise how fallacious this take is.

Egypt in 2010 did it where? At the Arab Cup?

But you saw the reasoning behind it, brother, why the toxicity?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:11pm On Jan 24, 2022
But I was only correcting, My Man... why sense toxicity? wink

A little more research was all it needed. 2010 is not even so far back.

TheLoneCitizen:


But you saw the reasoning behind it, brother, why the toxicity?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Zanistico: 2:12pm On Jan 24, 2022
Papi85:
From our first game to the last our midfield have been thin and I knew it will be exposed when we meet a tactically sound opposition

In our games you will find out that ndidi and aribo do the work of breaking play and linking the middle and the forward while iheanacho ghosts around waiting for the ball to fall to his feet

Football nowadays are won in the middle and anything with a superior midfield has the upper hand mostly in games

Our best midfield trio in the competition would have been ndidi as a DM, Onyeka as a box/box midfielder then aribo as a 10 or 8. The reason I will pick aribo ahead of iheanacho is his ability to track back to help the team and also he is more mobile than iheanacho

Even I would prefer starting iwobi in the 10 role than iheanacho

Iheanacho is a lovely player but off the ball he offers nothing.

The reason we saw the best of aribo and ndidi in this competition is because both were over worked and stressed

But shun aribo na luxury abeg, that guy na rolls Royce of a midfielder and I can’t wait for him to make the big leap to the epl as rumoured
Oil dey your head brother! Iheanacho is not an AM. He is a second striker. Brendan Rodgers has said this time and time again. Why Rohr and Eguavoen kept trying to push this thing I'll never understand(no I don't think we played a 4-4-2, it was a 4-2-3-1/4-4-1-1).
There were so many ways Eguavoen could've mixed up that midfield!
Aribo should be played as an AM or a CM in a 4-3-3. Gerrard noticed he was better off a bit further upfront or even outwide than playing as a pivot.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:15pm On Jan 24, 2022
12large1:


Rohr already beat Egypt 1-0 in a friendly with salah playing what are you guys insinuating
Who is talking about a specific match. Did Rohr not beat Zambia, Algeria, Cameroun? We are talking about an evident decline you are talking about beating Egypt and ridiculously not even in a competitive match but a friendly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 2:16pm On Jan 24, 2022
darkelf:


We lost. Tunisia won. Deal with it

If you like, speak all the English till tomorrow, the scoreline won't change.

If you like, insult me till tomorrow, scoreline won't change

Don't face reality, keep talking like a he-goat

Ode
If you like laugh and mock till tomorrow, it doesn't change the fact that you are a failure.

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