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Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Nobody: 3:53pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Mustiboy: See them o! Show me "staffs" in the dictionary!!! 1 Like |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Druss(m): 3:55pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
jimcaddy: Dude I know someone who has 2 Masters from top UK universities. He did his first degree in the UK including a diploma. He is still required to write IELTS despite working for over 10 years in an international company where English is the first language. IELTS at worst can create exceptions for such cases. Haba imagine that Wole Soyinka if he wanted to emigrate from Nigeria today would need to write IELTS (this assumes that he doesn't have a second nationality). 2 Likes |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Panda7(m): 4:01pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
last time I checked we were still under indirect colonization by our headmasters.. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by techWriter3: 4:10pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
IELTS is extraction on English language African states. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Nobody: 4:18pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Another example is the way Nigerian interchange the words "couple" and "few". I can tell you for free when a white man no matter how poorly educated even the ones in council flats and ghettos, tells you "couple" he means 2, if it is more than 2 and and undetermined multiple but not many, he will say "few" or whatever correctly describes the number. When a foreigner hears couple he hears "2" but when a Nigerian says "couple" he could mean any number, thats part of the problem of communication in English with a Nigerian!!! I am yoruba and can speak yoruba but I do not understand the meaning of many yoruba words especially those spoken by those really hardcore yoruba elders. So when they use those words, sometimes I do not understand what they are saying or I have to guess what they are trying to say. In my experience, that is the exact problem many many Nigerians have with English. They can speak it but they really do not understand the true meanings of many of the words and so communication is lost!! English is the universal language of instruction, of commerce etc. if you do not understand the true meaning of words and how and when to use them, there will always be miscommunication. 1 Like |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Gee64: 4:26pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
I was among the Federal delegates sent to visit secondary schools in Edo State. In one of the private schools visited, a teacher was asked what her subject area was, she replied: I teaches English. When asked what her qualification was, she replied: I has a BA in English. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Deicide: 4:27pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
So after 2 years I would just forget how to speak English? This thread is kinda funny, instead of being united and tackling the main issus. They want to prove they know how to speak English. UNA well done o. 1 Like |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by safarigirl(f): 4:33pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
SeriouslySense: This is a more reasonable ask; it should be made affordable and available to a wider group of Nigerians, its validity period should also be extended. To ask for its total cancellation is rather humorous |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by ednut1(m): 4:36pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
this is nigeria where people can buy degrees, where some graduates cant read or write well. Abeg they cant scrap it 3 Likes |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Nobody: 4:39pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
ednut1: When you see official communication from some Nigerian organizations and government agencies, you wonder which school did their communications staff attend? 1 Like |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by ednut1(m): 4:41pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
perambulator:make them go UK go misspell drug name or read things wrongly lol |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by NWABUKA007(m): 4:43pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
It's about time |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by NWABUKA007(m): 4:44pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Gee64: |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by isaythetruth(m): 4:47pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
For me, Nigeria should be included in the list of Native English-speaking countries. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by adaksbullet: 4:47pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
yes am support these, while we u say nigerian should be write ITEL exam are we not speek eglish on nigerian? |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by PerseDew(f): 5:01pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
perambulator: Communication problems is not peculiar to the Nigerian society. It exists everywhere. I once attended a work seminar on Communication where the host asked who is responsible for making sure what is said is understood, is it the speaker or the listener? I replied the speaker because I felt it is more of the job of the person speaking/giving orders to make sure what he/she said is understood. One could argue it is the listener or both of them. I agree but the way I see it, I prefer to ask if what I said is understood (to explain further if need be) and or listen to the listener's reply to make sure he/she understands me as long as I know the listener has gotten to the age of reason. And no, it is not only a Nigerian that would misconstrue the meaning of the word "viable". 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
PerseDew: What ethnicity are you? How fluent are you in your language? I am yoruba and can speak enough yoruba to get by but I do not understand the meaning of many yoruba words especially those spoken by those really hardcore yoruba elders. So when they use those words, sometimes I do not understand what they are saying or I have to guess what they are trying to say. In my experience, that is the exact problem many many Nigerians have with English. They can speak it but they really do not understand the true meanings of many of the words and so miscommunication occurs!! |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by SeriouslySense(m): 5:16pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
I agree about the validity period. If possible it should be permanent. Is not like English is upgrading itself. safarigirl: |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by fujirice: 5:21pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
perambulator:Please which data do you have to backup this your claim that Ghanaians and South Africans speak better English than Nigerians? See, this is what I don’t like when people generalize. Yes, you may have had encounters with few people of the stated nationalities that are grounded in English language but that does not mean that they are better off. I have students in UK (Scotland and England) that I teach. If you see what they write for me, you will marvel. Are you now going to conclude that Nigerians are better than English and Scottish people in English language? Certainly not! See, if you conduct IELTS in London today, you’d be surprised how many English speaking natives and professionals that will score up to band 5, and I kid you not. IELTS is a money making machine for these guys which they are using to exploit us. 2 Likes |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Nobody: 5:22pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
airsaylongcome: Have you visited forums dominated by "native English speakers"? I guess not. Any language proficiency test with a validity period attached is an avenue to rip people off. Thanks to our population, Nigeria is a viable market for such business to boom but let's not make excuses for greed please. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by fujirice: 5:26pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
ariketalks:Don’t mind them. Africans are their own enemies I tell you. 3 Likes |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Indispensable85(m): 5:28pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
God bless my country Canada. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by HIPROFILE(m): 5:29pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
TheGift: Thank you but the fact remains that in a Country where official language for communication is English and the leader can not speak fluently nor even understand the said language when spoken to, hypothetically the people he leads won’t be far from what you get from him. Bro its not about dragging anybody to anything am only stating what is happening. Nigeria and Nigerians has never been looked down upon in the manner experienced in the past 7 years I envisaged you not to join the host of others already trading the part to making same mistake made in 2015. Go get your PVC ready and ensure you vote who will drive the nation forward than backward irrespective of ethnicity, tribe and religion. Rest IJN. 1 Like |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by JohnAOne: 5:29pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Nigerians wey no sabi English, talk less of having Communication skills... IELTS MUST STAY! Dem no force you write am in the first place. If you don't want to write it, stay in your Country! Stupid people... |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by TinubuGoQuench(f): 5:46pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
Omicron007: CHAI!!! SEE THE WAY DEM FINISH FOR THIS THREAD! EKPA! 2 Likes |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by Nobody: 6:01pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
fujirice: That is my personal experience based on my travels and interactions with both their elite and the poor. It is actually because of the frustrations that I experience with Nigerians that I noticed that many of these African countries seem better educated at least in terms of communicating in English. Understanding English is not about intelligence or social status. My issue is effective communication in English i.e understanding what is being said. I lived in England for 17 years, I went to school in England, I was born there so dont try and school me on English people. In Nigeria we judge people by their ability to speak English but when you get to England you realise everybody speaks English even the dullard and the illiterate. Even the illiterate English man can communicate properly in English. However, like i said in one of my posts even an illiterate English man from a council flat will not use the word "couple" when he means few... when he says couple he means 2! However even a Nigerian with a Ph.d will say "couple" when he means "few". Those are the kind of things I am talking about. Many Nigerians misuse English words, many dont understand the true meanings or use similar words but with different meanings interchangeably or wrongly. That is my main issue with Nigerians and English...proper communication, using the right words and understanding the true meaning of words. There is always a risk of miscommunication when communicating with a lot of Nigerians in English and I am even talking here about so called graduates. In my experience Nigerians (particularly the youth) have the poorest grasp of English of all the African countries I have visited and I have been to many. We speak English but many do not understand. IMHO it is down to the quality of our primary/secondary education, once you get it wrong there it is difficult to correct. Like I have said elsewhere it is like myself and yoruba. I speak youruba fluently but I cannot communicate effectively in yoruba or truly understand what is being said in all situations. Ask me to interprete a typical yotuba song and i cant. Thats the problem with many Nigerians they speak English but many do not really understand English words, even the ones they use frequently. Imagine a crime scene were 3 culprits attacked a man. A Nigerian and an English man witnessed the event and are giving statements to the police. An English man even if he cannot read or write will always say "a few men" attacked the man, whereupon he may be probed as to how many because the police man also being an English man who understands the language knows "a few" is not specific. If you ask the Nigerian he will likely tell you "a couple" of men, whereas the police knowing the meaning of couple not understanding he is dealing with a Nigerian will start looking for 2 men instead of 3. I also used the example of the word "viable", that you say a candidate is viable does not mean you said he will win but you have to explain to many Nigerians that all you said and meant was he has a good chance. This is the problem I have with Nigerians and English, you always have to clarify and not assume anything. To be clear having a good grasp of English does not make you intelligent but the lack of ability to communicate effectively in English can make you look dumb. 1 Like |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by abdsamad(m): 6:06pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
airsaylongcome: Maybe you're right but surely a person that passes Ielts shouldn't have to retake the test ever, or at least not after a decade. Are we saying the person has suddenly forgotten how to speak the English after two years? It's a good money making scheme hiding under the shell of standardisation 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by authority2006(m): 6:07pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
[s] Omicron007: Don't let the bitterness and hate inside you consume you boy. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by authority2006(m): 6:10pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
airsaylongcome: Should we now focus on some issues/problems and neglect others? Your reasoning level is quite low. |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by ImaIma1(f): 6:14pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
airsaylongcome: The bolded is the one that touches me the most. It has become acceptable English especially on NL. Others I keep seeing here: *I do eat in the morning, I do go to school. Adding "do" everywhere. *The recent one on Nairaland is "my cousin brother", "my cousin sister". Many people speak Nigerian English, unknown to them. That's why they will go to a shop and say "I want to buy maggi knorr" 2 Likes |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by authority2006(m): 6:14pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
safarigirl: May be you should go back and read their request first. You didn't even read the post but making comment what what request makes sense and the ones that don't. Lol |
Re: Stop Asking Nigerians To Write IELTS (Petition) by emmyN(m): 6:18pm On Jan 26, 2022 |
perambulator: You are talking about something else entirely. The focus here is use of english as a language of communication and not one's repository of vocabularies. Even the English themselves don't know every word in their dictionary. |
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